Glennon’s Saints Grade: “C+”
October 9th, 2014
An experienced former NFL quarterback studied film of Mike Glennon and has weighed in with an assessment of Sunday’s effort in New Orleans.
Glennon was good, he said, but nowhere near great.
“I think he competed, which was good to see, but I guess expect that at this level. I still want him to have better ball location,” said former Bucs quarterback Shaun King on WDAE-AM 620 today. “I still feel like about five, six times in a game he has a clean pocket and he misses some throws that he should make. You know, if he can kind of get a little better on that, then he’s got a chance to continue to get better.
“I still think his ceiling is a lot lower than some of the elite guys in the league. But he was serviceable in New Orleans. He didn’t play terrible; he didn’t play great. Somewhere in the middle. If you ask me to give him a grade, I’d say C+.”
Joe was excited by Glennon’s performance, but Joe also agrees with King and his grade.
Was Glennon victimized by drops? Yes. Did Glennon miss his share of opportunities? Sure. But Glennon was more than good enough Sunday to get a victory on most afternoons.
Joe’s happy to take that, as Glennon shows the Bucs and the NFL whether or not he’s got what it takes to be a consistently good NFL starter.
October 9th, 2014 at 10:37 am
B, B- in my opinion.
October 9th, 2014 at 10:38 am
Sean “Fat A$$ King” the only QB in Bucs history to not be able to LEAD his team to a TD in the NFC Championship with with one of the best defenses ever constantly giving him the ball back….. Yea that sorry a$$ guy!!! Anyway, last time I checked a “C” was still a passing grade. Lol
October 9th, 2014 at 10:40 am
Go Raid another Buffett table SK. You get an A at that every time
October 9th, 2014 at 10:40 am
Shaun King grading another quarterback, is like Obama grading another president. It BEGS the question…”what do you know about it? You just pretended.”
October 9th, 2014 at 10:41 am
I think if we look back at the QB play during the majority of the first 3 games of the season it would be hard to find fault with MG’s performance in New Orleans. Was it perfect, no, but it was good enough to win and if the Bucs got to hold the Saints to a FG or less on their penalty aided winning drive in OT we could have seen if MG could have driven the Bucs to a winning TD or perhaps FG….. So yeah a grade of C+ seems appropriate as an A or B is probably reserved for winning performances….
October 9th, 2014 at 10:43 am
Jamie dukes, of all people, should shut his trap. Serviceable? Child please! This coming from a guys who can’t even throw a td. Imagine if glennon had Dunn and Alstott behind him. Child please go eat a doughnut, big boy. I heard Victoria secrets has a sale on bras today, big boy. Don’t you have to go get kicked out of a Chinese Buffett somewhere.
October 9th, 2014 at 10:43 am
I gave him a B. And I still don’t care for King burger eater!
October 9th, 2014 at 10:44 am
You are a funny guy Shaun king. Seriously how many throws did u even average a game. Like 10. What a joke when he rips into other qbs. His record was good for one reason – that amazing defense
October 9th, 2014 at 10:45 am
Shaun King – the only QB in NFL history to be relegated to “emergency” status behind the immortal Rob Johnson in a Super Bowl!
October 9th, 2014 at 10:45 am
Mike Glennon is already a much better QB than Shaun King ever was. I personally would give Glennon a B for Saints game
October 9th, 2014 at 10:57 am
@lightningbuc
I totally forgot about that. Lmfao. He wasn’t even the clip board holder. Dude was a scrub. Especially being relegated to 3rd behind Rob Johnson. Lmfao. I can say with all honesty that if we had Glennon back in the day and that same defense he would have taken us to the Super Bowl. We definitely would have won the game against the Rams. FAT A$$ King just needs to shut up and get his “C” Pap machine so he can breathe.
October 9th, 2014 at 11:03 am
C+ is a little harsh, more of a straight B towards a B+ if you ask me
October 9th, 2014 at 11:03 am
If Glennon gets a C+…..everyone else gets an F……
He had penalties, dropped passes, poor playcalling….no running game…..what do you expect?
Shaun King thinks an A stands for Arbys….A B for Burger King a C for Chipotle a D for Dennys & an F for Fries!!!
“Shaun King, one of two Buc Quarterbacks that lost a NFC Championship Game when his defense gave up 11 or fewer points.”
October 9th, 2014 at 11:04 am
Shaun King grading out quarterback play? Wouldn’t King be better suited to judging a pie eating contest.
This is some or like Ted Bundy deciding who should qualify for the noble peace prize.
October 9th, 2014 at 11:06 am
first 3 quarters I give him a B. The last quarter he gets an F-.
October 9th, 2014 at 11:06 am
Lmao joe ur ridiculous. Please don’t hang off the nuts of this guy only because he is a former Buccaneer that played with the team around the prime of this franchise. My opinion glennon made throws shaun king wishes he could have thrown. My opinion shaun king should be excited the bucs have a potential future qb. My opinion shaun king might be bitter about something. My opinion shaun king isn’t an expert at the qb position. It is somewhat interesting to hear what he has to say at an entertaining level but joe u don’t always have to agree with that man.
October 9th, 2014 at 11:09 am
There’s no letter in the alphabet to rate how much King sucked.
October 9th, 2014 at 11:11 am
My opinion I’d also give glennon a b or b+.
“Shaun King, one of two Buc Quarterbacks that lost a NFC Championship Game when his defense gave up 11 or fewer points.”
October 9th, 2014 at 11:14 am
So did King actually watch the coaches tape? Did you Joe?
What 5-6 plays are we talking about? I found 2-3. Glennon played a strong game considering the down and distances he has to throw on. It’s better than a C+.
Go chart the throws and then make comments. Point out these misses. I’m not seeing them.
October 9th, 2014 at 11:18 am
A solid “B”. He still made more throws from a clean pocket than Shaun King ever has.
October 9th, 2014 at 11:20 am
When you’re constantly staring down 2nd & long, third & long, and it’s not by your own doing…
When you pull the team out of those stupid situations that your team put you in…
I give him a B.
“And a geek shall lead them to the promised land”
October 9th, 2014 at 11:21 am
Agree with SK. Glennon had chances to make plays in the 3rd and 4th quarters to get first downs and close out the game. We didn’t need A level play from him to win this game. A B- would have won it.
C+ is average. Glennon was average.
Why is it so wrong to grade him out at a C or C+?
Not every losing QB deserves an above average grade. The offense only managed 20 first downs.
October 9th, 2014 at 11:21 am
If Glennon was a C, what does that make King during his career?
October 9th, 2014 at 11:26 am
Glennon is not our future. And joe after chanting and preaching for all offseason that glennon is just a good backup you seem like you are wet in the pants for him. Much rather you stick to the truth. We need a better qb. Next years draft
October 9th, 2014 at 11:30 am
Glennon is our current QB, and future franchise QB.
The kid is getting better, taking advantage of an opportunity, and will prove foghead 407 wrong, again, when the Bucs DON’T draft a 1st round QB. 🙂
October 9th, 2014 at 11:32 am
Dont get me wrong the defense is the worst part of our team. Its heartbreaking to watch. Glennon is decent. Im sorry if i dont want to.settle with decent. “C+”
October 9th, 2014 at 11:32 am
“Glennon is the future” – Lovie Smith
Perhaps Lovie should consult with foghead407 before making such statements.
One could say Josh Freeman had a fog head….
Betty Childs in Revenge of the Nerds : “I’m in love with a nerd.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a_sx3ozoXI
October 9th, 2014 at 11:35 am
I didnt say first round. And if we can win with glennon and a better defense. Thats awesome! Just dont see it happening
October 9th, 2014 at 11:37 am
I don’t agree with King at all on Glennon’s ceiling. Many people said we already saw his ceiling last season. Yet he continues to improve…
October 9th, 2014 at 11:38 am
Lovie and licht should consult with me. Id tell them all the sorry ass players to cut net year. And what else is lovie supposed to.say but glennon is the future.
October 9th, 2014 at 11:40 am
One could say Josh Freeman had a fog head….
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LOL! Foghead407 is Josh Freeman!
October 9th, 2014 at 11:46 am
Foghead…he said it right after the last draft…I imagine he’ll say it again after the next draft until it sinks in with everybody. We’ll see though, long season to go.
October 9th, 2014 at 11:47 am
Freeman was better than glennon before schiano cameto town ang glennon has what 1 game with over 300 yards? And it was 302
October 9th, 2014 at 11:50 am
Freeman put up his best numbers in Schiano’s first season…
Where’s Couch Fan when you need em…?
October 9th, 2014 at 11:51 am
There is no need to insult King. While he knows more about football than most of us, he says this stuff to get a reaction, which keeps him relivent. Maybe if we stop commenting on these weekly King articles they will disappear.
October 9th, 2014 at 11:55 am
C+? That’s what happens when a perma-“dislike” guy like King has to comment objectively. There is no objectivity. 5 drops and 4 plays called back due to penalties over 90 yards. And its a C+? Whatever
October 9th, 2014 at 11:58 am
Actually Freeman did have good numbers in 2010…but he certainly put up pretty decent numbers under Schiano’s first season. Only flaw I could find was the 17 INT’s to 27 TD’s. INT number was high, but that’s on his ass.
October 9th, 2014 at 12:03 pm
I give MG a B also. King’s analysis a D-. My question is how does King even gain his employment?
October 9th, 2014 at 12:23 pm
Richard Sherman says:
“Im better at life than Fat A$$ King.”
October 9th, 2014 at 12:41 pm
OMG. You guy’s giving MG a “B” is hilarious!
I can’t stand King, but I think in this one instance, he is being more than fair.
Mike Glennon did well, but a “B”? You guys are losing it. He showed promise. In one game.
In the Steelers game, he wasn’t impressive.
If an “A” is an elite QB, than a “B” is one level below elite, and MG is NOWHERE near being an upper level QB.
“C” is a fair grade. It really is. He played like an Average, middle grade QB.
That is fair, and it is a vast improvement for him. It is good enough, if he remains consistent or gets better, to be starter.
Compared to McCown, he is looking like Peyton Manning. But he ISN’t Manning.
Here’s how I grade the QBs out
“A” would be Bress, Peyton, Rogers and Brady (normally)
“B” would be guys like Eli, Big Ben, Rivers, etc.
“C” would be guys that are at least average.
“D” would be guys that are below average but not the worse.
“F” would be the duds.
Right now, at this stage in his development, Mike Glennon is a “C”.
If you MGMers can’t handle that, too bad. Its true and its accurate.
That isn’t to say Mike cannot get better, but he isn’t anywhere near a “B” YET. He is heading in the right direction if we go by the last game. That’s it.
October 9th, 2014 at 12:42 pm
“An experienced former NFL quarterback studied film of Mike Glennon and has weighed in with an assessment ”
I like the way you like to trap people into clicking on “read more” of some of your articles. I like King as an analyst, so I don’t mind it either way. Anyone who saw the above line would not think of Shaun King to be that witty former NFL QB. May be someone like Jaworski, Gannon, Steve Young or even Dilfer who had a longer career and is a more renowned analyst.
October 9th, 2014 at 12:43 pm
“Sunday’s effort in New Orleans.”
BuccaneerBonzai….he was grading the Saints game not the 2 games combined.
October 9th, 2014 at 12:43 pm
Freeman is a great example of how a “C” can go either way. He became a “F” rather quickly.
Too soon to give Glennon too much credit. He did good. He has to continue to do so, and improve.
October 9th, 2014 at 12:45 pm
Foghead’s problem is that drafting a QB solves nothing. Drafting a QB does nothing about….
Mediocre aging OLine
Piss poor pass rush
Horrible secondary (CBs and Safeties)
Lack of speed options on offense
Weak LBs outside LVD.
People have been conned into think a QB is everything to winning. Except it’s really not. If that were the case Peyton would have at least 5 Super Bowls. Instead the only one he won was when his defense stepped up.
October 9th, 2014 at 12:45 pm
@Bonzai: He did not say Glennon is a C+ QB, which even I would have agreed with, even a grade below in fact. He said Glennon had a C+ game, which I disagree with. His only interception came off what should have been a blatant PI by the CB. He had some bad throws, especially late 4th qtr on 3rd and 20. But taking into account the drops he has had to put up with, lack of run game and a so-so O-line, he has done an admirable B+ job for me against the Saints.
October 9th, 2014 at 12:45 pm
Now if you combine the 2 games. I’d give him a C too.
October 9th, 2014 at 12:45 pm
@Buc1987
So am I. “C” is fair. He did enough to win. He didn’t do above average.
October 9th, 2014 at 12:46 pm
In the Steelers game, he wasn’t impressive.
_________________
Stupid comment alert!
Bonzai, just admit you hate Glennon. You loved Freeman, and it just didn’t pan out! Get over it.
October 9th, 2014 at 12:47 pm
Y’all leave the man alone about his weight. Some of the Glennon throws were lasers. He’ll be alright.
October 9th, 2014 at 12:48 pm
bucrightoff …don’t forget the 15 penalties too.
October 9th, 2014 at 12:49 pm
Bonzai…but King was only grading the Saints game and for that I give him a B.
October 9th, 2014 at 12:50 pm
I do agree that most of the bad things in the last game were not Glennon’s fault though.
October 9th, 2014 at 12:54 pm
I think C+ to B- would be fair. Funny if Shuan King had Glennon or McCown’s work ethic, he would have had a successful NFL career.
Just prior to King’s second season, I played golf with a Bucs DB and he referred to him as dough boy.
October 9th, 2014 at 12:57 pm
Shaun King’s competitive eating gets an A++++ however.
October 9th, 2014 at 1:00 pm
King looks like Grimace from McDonalds. LOL
Self-control much?
October 9th, 2014 at 1:02 pm
Dissapointed after clicking “Read Story” and saw Shaun King’s name… Dumpster diving!
October 9th, 2014 at 1:02 pm
Gibert: “I just wanted to say that I’m a nerd, and I’m here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds. I mean uh, all our lives we’ve been laughed at and made to feel inferior. And tonight, those bastards, they trashed our house. Why? Cause we’re smart? Cause we look different? Well, we’re not. I’m a nerd, and uh, I’m pretty proud of it.”
Nerd power. Go Glennon!
October 9th, 2014 at 1:03 pm
lightningbuc Says
“Stupid comment alert!
Bonzai, just admit you hate Glennon. You loved Freeman, and it just didn’t pan out! Get over it.”
Stupid commenter alert!
Lightning, tell me exactly what he did that was great in the Steelers game? The only reason he didn’t have 3 picks in that game was because the steelers dropped the picks.
The thing that was impressive in that game was that he did not let it rattle him.
He played much better against New Orleans. But not “B” better. I would have given him a “D” for the steelers game…even though we won.
And, in answer to your accusation, don’t be stupid. I DON’T hate Mike Glennon. I never have. I challenge you to prove it.
I have, however, always taken the stance that he needs to earn his props…just like ANY player on the team. Clearly, you did not read my posts following the last game. I was impressed with his improvements.
But you always want to give him credit before it is due…because you obviously have pent up emotions toward him that border on disgusting.
AND, your revisionist history doesn’t cut it. Did I support Freeman? Yes. When he earned it. And when he didn’t? I said so.
Your problem is that you seem to think that if someone does not agree with you, or if someone states there is room for improvement, they must be haters. I’m not. In fact, I hope more than you can imagine that Mike Glennon becomes the next Peyton Manning. I do not root against him.
Too bad you cannot say the same in regard to players YOU feel don’t meet expectations. Oh wait…that makes YOU the hater, doesn’t it?
October 9th, 2014 at 1:05 pm
Let me add…
The “D” grade from the Steelers game is understandable. It WAS his first start this year.
October 9th, 2014 at 1:07 pm
I do have to admit though that in the beginning King was exciting and he made some really clutch plays.
I thought we had our guy until a Monday night game against Pittsburgh. We were sitting in the end zone on a breezy night and you could see his wounded ducks getting knocked down by the wind. Turned to my son, and said he is done and he was.
October 9th, 2014 at 1:07 pm
Has any Bucs QB ever won in Pittsburgh? For that matter has any Bucs back up QB (Glennon) ever won in in his first game off the bench?
Bonzai did you expect Joe Montana off the bench in the Steelers game? Apparently so.
October 9th, 2014 at 1:08 pm
“For that matter has any Bucs back up QB (Glennon) ever won in his first game off the bench IN PITTSBURGH*.
October 9th, 2014 at 1:09 pm
LOL Bonzai ..you dropped the first start comment while I was typing my Monata comment.
October 9th, 2014 at 1:12 pm
What grade would he give Drew Brees. He threw three interceptions including one that was very childish.
October 9th, 2014 at 1:12 pm
@Buc1987
Sigh. As I’ve stated , the “D” is understandable…BECAUSE it was his first start this year.
Lord…you MGMers work completely off false assumptions.
BuccaneerBonzai Says:
October 9th, 2014 at 1:05 pm
Let me add…
The “D” grade from the Steelers game is understandable. It WAS his first start this year.
October 9th, 2014 at 1:16 pm
And, just to put lightning in his place:
https://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=122647#comment-3449058
Buccaneer Bonzai Says
October 5th, 2014 at 4:52 pm
“Mike Glennon
I may surprise some people here. I’ve been saying that Mike Glennon needs to overwhelm me. Keeping in mind that it is his second year, I’ll say this…he did what I asked.
In my opinion, he carried the offense (he, Jackson and Murphy). I think we would have blown the Saints out if there had not been so many penalties and drops earlier in the game, and the plays leading up to the safety were a result of the rest of the offense screwing up. Once aain, our center hiked the ball before it was called, causing a bad snap. I saw that safety coming a mile away.
None of that was Mike Glennons fault. He displayed traits that have been misssing in his game. He went thru progressions faster, he read the defense consistently, he was in complete command, he didn’t panick under pressure and he was studying the playbook between possessions (much like Peyton does).
I am no MGMer…yet…but I do believe he officially earned the starting role in this game. Even though we lost. Not ready to name him a franchise QB yet, but he moved forward big time.”
That doesn’t sound like a “hater” to me.
October 9th, 2014 at 1:17 pm
LOL Glennon had a bad Pittsburgh game? Wth are you talking about? 7 dropped passes and 1 int that Evans pulled up limp on that was 0% Glennon’s fault. 302 passing yards, 2 TDS and winning in Pittsburgh.
Please stop talking….you have absolutely no clue what is going on
October 9th, 2014 at 1:17 pm
Yes Bonzai read above. You hit submit before I hit submit. Your comment wasn’t even on my screen when I hit my submit with the Montana off the bench comment.
So sorry. Your beef is obviously with lightningbuc carry on. lol
October 9th, 2014 at 1:19 pm
BuccaneerBonzai Says:
October 9th, 2014 at 1:05 pm
Let me add…
The “D” grade from the Steelers game is understandable. It WAS his first start this year.
Dont give up your day job Bonzai… Your analysis isnt worth much here.
October 9th, 2014 at 1:19 pm
No worries, Buc1987. Happened to you, and then it happened to me right after, lol.
October 9th, 2014 at 1:21 pm
Game winning TD @ Pitt. and he gets a D.
October 9th, 2014 at 1:24 pm
Glennon haters crack me up. His first 16 games:
3280 yards 24 touchdowns 11 interceptions 59.1 comp % 84.9 rating
Those numbers are for basically a rookie. They are outstanding for a rookie, and good for a seasoned veteran.
October 9th, 2014 at 1:31 pm
If Bonzai’s boner from Freeman were any more obvious he’d have a Josh Freeman Thriller Pictorial in his house…which he undoubtedly does.
October 9th, 2014 at 1:35 pm
J 2.0…you HAVE to throw in the Sullivan offense and basically on Vjax to throw too. I discount Tim Wright. Now he’s working with a 1st year OC with a pacifier in his mouth.
This kid deserves a LOT of credit.
I love nerds. “And a geek shall lead them to the promised land”.
October 9th, 2014 at 1:40 pm
FreemanBonzai was the unabashed leader of the JFro Mob.
To say Glennon was unimpressive in Pittsburgh is moronic. While he didn’t have a Hall of Fame type game, he did lead his team down the field in the final minute while they were behind (not tied) to the game winning TD at a place that has been a House of Horrors for the Bucs.
October 9th, 2014 at 1:50 pm
http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/thedrop.fm/files/2013/02/JoshFreeman_Thriller.jpg
October 9th, 2014 at 1:55 pm
Picture it : Mike Glennon and Chip Kelly.
Now I want to cry…
October 9th, 2014 at 1:57 pm
At least when King comments I get a good chuckle for the day
October 9th, 2014 at 3:44 pm
He grade out with a C just 2 td. Had a pick and a safety he stinks under pressure. One out of 16 games he played well in the forth quarter. That’s a reality there is proof in the numbers. Yes he is better than josh but I wouldn’t give him the keys longterm
October 9th, 2014 at 4:39 pm
andres Says:
October 9th, 2014 at 11:06 am
first 3 quarters I give him a B. The last quarter he gets an F-.
They didn’t score a touchdown until there was 27 seconds left in the first half, you gave him a B grade?
king did play in atleast one meaningful game, it’s called the postseason. I think Glennon has a higher ceiling than Shaun king ever had but seriously a bunch of couch quarterbacks dishing out hate to a guy that actually played the game (played) and is still employed in related fields.
Bucs fans are pathetic upset because a C+ quarterback for a C+ grade. I’m listening and all these fans have to hang their hat on is a average quarterback on a losing team. You should be more focused on winning games and having a complete team than this one guy, even the patriots don’t do that for Brady.
Start by keeping your starters on the field, even you’re head coach has missed practice. This website…. Reveals weak fans and a weak team in a weak division, no one is even focused on the ravens which means you expect to lose
October 9th, 2014 at 5:09 pm
I reconsidered, A C is right. Glennon needs to stop holding so much, missing line stunts, dropping passes and calling stupid plays like having the WR in motion behind the center when he’s deep hi his own territory.
I mean really. These idiots are lucky they aren’t playing with Dan Marino who would publicly berate his teammates when they made stupid mistakes.
B or B plus.
October 9th, 2014 at 5:53 pm
An opinion is just that. If someone wants to give Glennon an A+ for the win at Pittsburgh I’m fine with that. The funny part is who it would rattle to denounce such thinking.