Bucs Alumni Weigh In
September 19th, 2014
Former Bucs defensive lineman Ellis Wyms doesn’t believe the defense gave 100 percent for Lovie last night.
You think Bucs fans were hacked off last night? Well, they were not the only ones.
Former Bucs players took to Twitter last night as they watched the alley-beating the Dixie Chicks dished out, for all the world to see, in prime time no less on the Tiffany Network.
Joe is pretty confident CBS head honcho Les Moonves cursed out NFL warden commissioner Roger Goodell last night over the phone, demanding a rebate.
Among the Bucs alumni who were appalled at the scene was Ellis Wyms. The six-year Bucs defensive lineman, who was a member of the Super Bowl-winning Bucs in 2002, hinted that the Bucs defense may have given up on Lovie last night, or at best wanted to be anywhere but in Atlanta last night.
Lovie has to find the right group of men that want to compete harder. No team in #NFL should get handled like that by anybody. #BucsNation
— Ellis Wyms (@elliswyms) September 19, 2014
Fan favorite Shaun King, one of but three quarterbacks to lead the Bucs to an NFC Championship game, attended the beatdown with his extended family and was galled at what he saw.
Never been more embarrassed to be at a game than now — shaun king (@realshaunking) September 19, 2014
The ultimate insult came from Eric LeGrand. The former Bucs draft pick, who played for former Bucs commander Greg Schiano at Rutgers and was paralyzed on a kickoff, suggested he could have played just as well on the defensive line.
Y’all need me to suit up Bucs???
— Eric LeGrand (@EricLeGrand52) September 19, 2014
September 19th, 2014 at 1:35 pm
Yikes! LeGrand hitting below the belt!
September 19th, 2014 at 1:36 pm
The LeGrand comment is priceless!
September 19th, 2014 at 1:38 pm
lol
September 19th, 2014 at 1:39 pm
I kept waiting for Ashton Kucher to knock on my door and tell me I got punked.
The Bucs got abused like little b!tches. It was like college vs pros.
September 19th, 2014 at 1:39 pm
I said this before, but I’ll repeat it because I can’t think of anything to say after the epic beat down we took last night…..
Football is a game of emotion and will. You have to impose your will on 11 other guys who are trying to do the same to you! Last night, we saw a Bucs team that was beyond “flat”, beyond “lifeless”, beyond any other words you would use to describe their effort…not just their PERFORMANCE…I’m talking about their ATTITUDE! PERFORMANCE can be coached up and trained to get better….but ATTITUDE is a whole different story! I saw an ATTITUDE last night of complacency, laziness and resignation. With very few exceptions, I saw no ATTITUDE that would lead any Bucs fan to believe that this team wanted anything more than to just take their lumps, and fly home for a long weekend!
I know Coach Smith is a humble, plain spoken kind of guy (like Tony Dungy before him), but I saw no ATTITUDE of getting tough, or playing with pride, from Coach Smith last night and the players ATTITUDE mimicked his! Did you see the Falcons coach? He was yelling, high fiving his players, giving guys pep talks when they missed an assignment and pats on the back for making good plays! Coach Lovie simply wore the same dour expression on his face all game long! Players feed off ATTITUDE, ENERGY, PRIDE and DETERMINATION …and Lovie showed none of that! (To be completely fair, none of the so called “leaders” amongst the players did either…I know GMC tried to rally the troops a bit from the sideline, but he couldn’t do it on the field).
Our defense might be a lot worse than we thought it would be. And our Offense and Special Teams are nothing to write home about either, but with PRIDE, ATTITUDE and DETERMINATION, they could be a lot better than what we saw last night. What we saw last night was a team and a coaching staff that looked like they had all given up and quit! The fans deserve better than what we got last night! I hope that every coach and Bucs player today feels ashamed….not that they lost to a better team, but ashamed that they let it happen without showing any ATTITUDE to fight back. This team has some talent….but it lacks heart and leadership…amongst the players and coaches!!!!!!
September 19th, 2014 at 1:40 pm
Lovie is in WAY over his head….I listened to his press conference yesterday and was underwhemled by his monotoned empty words…then by chance I listened to a long interview with #55 on all sorts of subject…a stark contrast in leadership and answering questions. Lovie is an empty suit that has been swept to this point in life by his association with the greatness of others. I don’t mean to be harsh…but that is what I see……
September 19th, 2014 at 1:43 pm
Everybody was worried about the offense….
There isn’t enough gauze in the world to stop this much bleeding.
September 19th, 2014 at 1:43 pm
Saw Steve White’s twitter making excuses for his boy Lovie, and blocking people who talk about Schiano. Elephant in the room, anyone?
September 19th, 2014 at 1:43 pm
Start eric legrand cant be any worse.. atleast they will have to go around his wheel chair!
September 19th, 2014 at 1:45 pm
robert9
I know we were last night but is that someone drowning?
September 19th, 2014 at 1:45 pm
Yeah, i never ever see Lovie talking into that empty headset. He is always just looking at the screen so that he can make sure to point blame to players screwing up.
They are too tight. This guy needs to wake up. Where is the emotion.
September 19th, 2014 at 1:46 pm
In the immortal words of Shane Falco:
You’re playing and you think everything is going fine. Then one thing goes wrong. And then another. And another. You try to fight back, but the harder you fight, the deeper you sink. Until you can’t move… you can’t breathe… because you’re in over your head. Like quicksand.
September 19th, 2014 at 1:48 pm
The franchise is in over it’s head and belong in the CFL.
September 19th, 2014 at 1:55 pm
Can’t imagine that second stringers filling in on defense aren’t giving 100%. Although, after that performance, I can’t rule it out either. They fell right on their faces
September 19th, 2014 at 1:56 pm
A good college team would of gave them all they could handle playing that lousy.
September 19th, 2014 at 1:56 pm
Rasta, please warn that you are going to post a rerun, so I can skip to the next post….just saying. Love is an accomplished coach, so I would not say he is over his head. He needs to figure out whatever is going wrong, and he needs to do it quick.
Man was I wrong about this game and the falcons in general.
September 19th, 2014 at 2:01 pm
McBuc….I’ll repost it until you GET IT…you are grasping at straws
September 19th, 2014 at 2:04 pm
Lovie is an accomplished coach
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WAS!
September 19th, 2014 at 2:07 pm
“Lovie is an empty suit that has been swept to this point in life by his association with the greatness of others. I don’t mean to be harsh…but that is what I see”
September 19th, 2014 at 2:07 pm
We the fans are screwed. We are stuck with this sh!t show for how many years of this regime?
INEXCUSABLE……definition ………”too bad to be justified or tolerated”
But we will continue to hear excuses from all the apologist.
September 19th, 2014 at 2:09 pm
Too late for the Glazers to rescind the blackouts?
September 19th, 2014 at 2:11 pm
Answer to previous poll. Doen’t matter. We loose either way.
September 19th, 2014 at 2:11 pm
This is what happened
http://www.imagesup.net/?di=4141115008413
September 19th, 2014 at 2:15 pm
Was hoping to catch the 2pm press conference, but appears Lovie is running late… Somehow I am missing “toes on the line”. Maybe he is reading up on losing cliches? Or maybe its my ‘puter… Maybe the site should just say “press conference around 2ish or 3…..”
September 19th, 2014 at 2:15 pm
lovie is late for his own press conference.
September 19th, 2014 at 2:20 pm
Working on the inishing toges of his resignation speech…do the right thing Lovie….
September 19th, 2014 at 2:28 pm
The players quit, which is more embarrassing than if they played their tails off and still got trounced. If you flat out quit, you’re disrespecting the fans, coaches, owners, teammates and the game. Lovie has to find a way to put the pieces back together, this team looks broken.
September 19th, 2014 at 2:29 pm
“Lovie is an empty suit that has been swept to this point in life by his association with the greatness of others. I don’t mean to be harsh…but that is what I see”
September 19th, 2014 at 2:34 pm
Offense and special teams were both abysmal last night, BUT … our defense won the ugly prize. Over 80% of the tackles were made by LBs, CBs and Safeties. That’s never a good sign in my book. The DLine not only isn’t getting any penetration & sacks, they’re doing a horrible job of filling their gaps.
For their part, the Back-7 looked like statues most of the night. I’ve never seen receivers so wide open. Same thing in the first 2 games though … Bucs poor coverage is incomprehensible.
Suggestion to Lovie: If what you’re doing isn’t working, might want to try something different. Can’t be any worse than getting totally embarrassed on national TV 56-14.
September 19th, 2014 at 2:35 pm
If McClown keeps starting… Get ready everyone
#OWEN16
September 19th, 2014 at 2:36 pm
He is starting just said by Lovie… As long as McCown is healthy
September 19th, 2014 at 2:37 pm
This is a scene from the Peters Sellers movie “Being There”…….Lovie reminds m of Chauncey …the character Sellers plays….the man speaking on the left of the screen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYeVQzTVyLk
September 19th, 2014 at 2:41 pm
Really someone should be cut after last night.
Maybe two cuts. Call in Donald Trump to break the news.
The problem is that it wasn’t one or two guys it was the
whole team.
September 19th, 2014 at 2:50 pm
I’d be shocked it there’s more than 30,000 fans in 3 weeks. Lovie just told everyone he’s quit on the team by making Josh starter, because the team will be quitting knowing it too. Full credit to Lovie though for trying to supplant Raheem as the worst hire in team history.
September 19th, 2014 at 3:18 pm
I’m wondering how long before Capt Tim walks the plank again and jumps off.
September 19th, 2014 at 3:21 pm
No knock on McCown, but after 12 years in the league he has shown to be a backup.
MG8 could possibly be more…
Do we get the opportunity to find out? I’ll tell you one thing, I watched the enitre game last night and took my ass whooping like a man. If McCown starts next time out, and makes boneheaded mistakes, I will just turn off the game and do something else with my team.
The point being, the fans need something to believe in. Mike Glennon gives us something to believe in, as well as a look at the future. Rinse, lather, repeat with McCown out there is the definition of insanity.
I am not to the point with McCown, that I was with Freeman, but I am beginning to feel the same way.
I was one of the fans who though Schian deserved a 3rd year, without Dom and Freeman.
Either way, we got rid of everyone, and to this point it looks like Schiano did more with less.
September 19th, 2014 at 3:21 pm
I’m guessing that the thumb will be used as an excuse for louse qb play the rest of the season!
September 19th, 2014 at 3:28 pm
My question is this. Who evaluates the talent and scouts the players? Does each new regime bring in its own departments for player evaluation? I only ask because it seems like regardless of the coach and GM, we always seem to miss in the Draft and free agency. What is the common denominator? Is this an ownership failure? I think it is due to weak ownership ever since Malcolm fell ill. His boys just keep missing the mark even though I think they really do want to win, they just do not have a good grasp on what makes a great coaching staff. When you miss more often than not in the draft and free agency this is the product you produce and the past several regimes are not evaluating talent and coaching up the team.
September 19th, 2014 at 3:31 pm
No since in going further than Dungy…. During his years he showed some winning attributes to the organization though he would only show glimpses…
During that time I got married and the wife liked the Bucs because I did…
The Gruden years started off with a Super Bowl (thanks to His coaching and leadership) and soon after we had children…. Through the Gruden years we were a Buccaneers family and all was good…
They fired Gruden For Raheem Morris (?)..{REALLY!}…. The Bucs started their decent in a downward spiral…. I was sure this was a business decision to pay a CHEAP HC while paying off Gruden… January 2, 2012 finally came and they fired Morris…
Then Shiano was hired…. It is around this time I lost my wife to much better NFL teams…. I said surely it has to get better (WRONG!}… By the end of last season I lost my children to much better NFL teams… When the Bucs fired Shiano I told them the Bucs will get it right this time {NOPE!}
They hired Lovie Smith {Seriously!} and after we watched last nights game I am now questioning my sanity as to why I remain a Bucs fan as the Seasons get worse and not better…. Lovie wasn’t “all that” in Chicago and he has proven it already in the past months he has been here…. This IS HIS TEAM… He sent people packing and brought in “His” guys…. Now this team reflects his ability to coach…
Hanging on to being a Bucs fan with little strength left and pondering just letting go!
September 19th, 2014 at 3:42 pm
Been saying it. For us not to win with smoke and mirrors it will take 3 great drafts and players growing within the system. Players coaches always scare me. You have to admit we looked better under Greg and played harder
September 19th, 2014 at 3:47 pm
Can we do a do over? Like hiring Lovie never happened and push the reset button. Other 1st year coaches are doing okay, why not ours? Are we cursed ? I know, Lovie brought the Cubs billy goat and Steve Bartman curses with him from Chicago. That’s hit ! We got the Cubs curse ! We’re doomed !
September 19th, 2014 at 3:51 pm
Simple as this:
Malcolm Glazer. 2 for 2 on coaching hires.
3 dumb sons. 0 for 3 on coaching hires.
That’s why we are where we are.
Starts at the very top.
September 19th, 2014 at 3:51 pm
there will be no bending by this pathetic coach and his minions. they will not admit to their failed FA signings, the absolute need of a franchise QB in todays league. their outdated defensive philosophy, that every team has figured out for a decade now. and their miserable choice for their starting QB. lovie is old school and loyal to a fault.why ruffle feathers when hey you might need a job one day with a fat check! I would make frazier accountable for this horrendous display of defense seen in these parts in a while. lovie I am calling you out. if you are the defensive-guru-mastermind-grand fucking poobah-whatever you want to be called, grow a pair and fire that slouch of a D.C. and start calling your own defensive game. there is no justification to start MCcown after these three losses. man up admit your failure and go with glennon,who everyone and their brother knows gives us the best chance to win. and when we get the first pick in next years draft please do not draft a punter.
September 19th, 2014 at 4:15 pm
snook Says:
September 19th, 2014 at 3:51 pm
Simple as this:
Malcolm Glazer. 2 for 2 on coaching hires.
3 dumb sons. 0 for 3 on coaching hires.
That’s why we are where we are.
Starts at the very top.
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That is my opinion as well. I think we will not be a perennial contender again unless the team is sold to a competent individual who knows football.
September 19th, 2014 at 4:19 pm
james west..spot on !!!!
September 19th, 2014 at 4:53 pm
What this team lacks is a Warren Sapp personality. They don’t have that guy that will get in other guy’s faces and light a fire under their asses. They don’t have a guy that demands excellence from everyone on every play. Gerald McCoy is super talented and a quality human being, but his leadership is sorely lacking. He should’ve been in everyone’s face last night, instead he has sulking on the sideline shaking his head. It’s that defeatist attitude that is the biggest problem with this team right now. It’s the samething that affected the team in 1996 when Dungy was hired, only now they don’t have the strong locker room leadership to turn the culture around. We’re in for a long, hard road Bucs fans.
September 19th, 2014 at 5:12 pm
Names have I used on this site:
Formerly Brown Bag- can’t go back to that
Draft Marty Schottenheimer- hey, maybe that’s an idea. He can get us to 14-2 then we can fire him
September 19th, 2014 at 9:04 pm
Snook nailed it on the head: this team has gone into the crapper since Malcolm had the stroke and the lads started ****ing things up. RayRay1122 makes a good point: would the franchise be in this disarray if Eddie DeBartolo was the owner? Tough being a Bucs fan, its as bad now as it was in the Culverhouse years and all his cheap underminings!
September 19th, 2014 at 10:28 pm
Forget about the Bucs being on primetime for a looong time
September 20th, 2014 at 1:46 am
I can’t believe I’m going to pittsburgh to watch these low life’s play the steelers. I will b wearing all black. I will b mourning this loss all week. The glazers really do need to sell this team. They just can’t get right. Lovie has list it!