Jeff Tedford Offense? Scoring Points
April 4th, 2014
New Bucs WR Louis Murphy gave Joe few clues
Bucs coach Lovie Smith recently said he is going to keep a shroud over offensive coordinator Jeff Tedford’s offense until the regular season begins. Joe understands that, but when fans are just about mocked out in early April with the draft still five (too) long weeks away, the grumbling for more information is becoming a drumbeat.
So Bucs fans are left to try to wonder what exactly Tedford’s offense will look like. We can only go on the man’s past, and tiny crumbs of information that have been made public.
* Lovie told Joe at the NFL Scouting Combine that Doug Martin would be his “bellcow” running back, but he did like the stable of running backs on the roster to complement Martin.
* New Bucs center Evan Dietrich-Smith told SiriusXM NFL Radio that the offense will be “up tempo.” He would not elaborate further.
* Three starting Bucs offensive linemen, Anthony Collins at left tackle, Demar Dotson at right tackle and Dietrich-Smith are known more for their pass blocking than their run blocking.
Now Joe has just a smidgen more of information on the offense, but it is scant. In an outing for select season ticket holders last night, Joe got a chance to chat briefly with new Bucs wide receiver Louis Murphy. Joe will have more from the interview over the weekend.
The St. Petersburg native was truly happy and excited to be playing for his hometown team. When Joe tried to press Murphy for more details of the offense, Murphy wouldn’t take the bait, admitting he didn’t want to give out any state secrets.
However, Murphy did nothing to dissuade Joe from thinking it will be an offense with plenty of passing with the following comment.
“I expect a lot of points to be put on the board,” Murphy said.
Now, generally, a ground-and-pound offense is rarely known for frying circuits on a scoreboard. So if Joe was to play football sleuth with the available clues, Bucs fans will not wont for pass attempts.
April 4th, 2014 at 7:10 am
Scoring points. That would be real nice.
April 4th, 2014 at 7:11 am
Half of the guys we signed are players that the raiders and browns didnt want back.
April 4th, 2014 at 7:18 am
BucinNC,
On the surface that would scare me, but the Raiders and Browns don’t stay where they are by making great personnel choices. Maybe they made mistakes with these guys and should have kept them.
April 4th, 2014 at 7:25 am
“Speed in space” will score you some points….and if you want that you will favor Sammy @ 7
April 4th, 2014 at 7:36 am
I figure that once training camp rolls around they won’t be able to keep the wool over the eyes anymore – I worry about Tedfords RBs not catching though, Dougie is one the leagues best catchers outa the back field
April 4th, 2014 at 7:44 am
Points would be nice. It would be fun to have an offense that isn’t offensive. Maybe a nice 1st rd QB from this draft could be groomed to lead it too.
April 4th, 2014 at 7:44 am
I still think it will be a mix between lions and eagles – Tedford had D. Jax and had J. Best – those guys were fast and used on screen plays all the time.
April 4th, 2014 at 7:51 am
BucinNC Says:
Half of the guys we signed are players that the raiders and browns didnt want back.
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Everybody knows the Raiders and Browns excel at scouting and developing players!
April 4th, 2014 at 7:54 am
Chip Kelly’s offense is up tempo with a lot of running plays. I, for one, feel completely silly though comparing Tedford with Chip Kelly. Kelly dominated in college football and ran a terrific program. Tedford was unemployed last year because he was fired from college football. Neither had any NFL experience but I’m not going to say he will be anywhere near as good as Kelly without seeing the offense first. I know Tedford isn’t the head coach so the comparison is a little difficult.
April 4th, 2014 at 7:55 am
@tbbf
There are countless other WR that run fast and can make moves in space… Here’s just a few
Brandin Cooks
Dri Archer
Jordan Matthews
Jeremy Gallon
De’ Anthony Thomas
Odell Beckham Jr.
Martavious Bryant
Bruce Ellington
Jeff Janis
Donte Moncrief
Paul Richardson
While I would not complain if we got Watkins/Evans and a Carr/Garoppolo… I would prefer a Manziel/Bortles with a Cooks/Jordan Matthews/Paul Richardson combo… Then a RG in the 3rd… ILB in the 5th… Swing lineman in the 7th
Hopefully we trade back some in the 2nd/3rd to pick up a 4th and an extra 5th
Damn draft couldn’t come soon enough!
April 4th, 2014 at 7:57 am
Speed in space is why Owusu, Demps and Murphy are on the roster now. No idea what the future holds, but these guys all have it.
April 4th, 2014 at 8:01 am
BucinNC Says:
Half of the guys we signed are players that the raiders and browns didnt want back.
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Half? good work Math boy…2 guys = Half.
April 4th, 2014 at 8:02 am
@Juan
RB’s barely caught any passes while at CAL… Joe had a story on it a week ago..
https://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=110281
@Joe
Why don’t you still do the week in review mash up anymore? And I think you missed a golden opportunity to do your Monday or Tuesday thoughts while Free Agency was going bananas. You could have given your opinion on the major signings around the league(contract length/guaranteed money and fit within system)… Not like an elaborate one since you obviously cover the Bucs but a quick hitter lol
April 4th, 2014 at 8:04 am
Sounds like all those pass blocking lineman sets up nice for the drafting of Theodore Bridgewater imo… why focus on pocket protection for a qb who potentially more potent out of the pocket (Johnny 2x’s). Either way I’d b happy with either but to b truthful I’d prefer Teddy but n no way would I Boo Johnny 2x’s all the beating of the drum Joe has done since June lol has more finally tapping my feet to the music…. hey I wonder if I can copyright that “Johnny2x’s”
April 4th, 2014 at 8:06 am
Really wouldnt be surprised to see Carr snagged by us at 7. Dude definitely knew how to push the ball downfield and put points on the board
April 4th, 2014 at 8:09 am
Hfxbuc
Cousins, Jenkins, Meyers, Murphy…boy
And saying half was an exaggeration. Although not far off
I agree they don’t excel with personnel decisions but we haven’t exactly either in recent history
April 4th, 2014 at 8:12 am
Tony Dungy (L.Smith) liked scoring points. 17pts a game that is.
April 4th, 2014 at 8:14 am
Smith loves scoring points so much he hired a OC with zero NFL experience. This is an outrage. Or maybe it’s not.
April 4th, 2014 at 8:19 am
Hope we don’t have any preseason joint meetings withe the Patriots this year. Our “secret offence” may be taped on the sidelines by New England’s coaching staff. This brings to mind an eerie thought. Do we need at all to be concerned with Glennon “spilling the beans” to his #1 admirer Schiano…he might feel he owes him that for making him a starting QB last year….???
April 4th, 2014 at 8:36 am
Lovie will “keep a shroud on the offense until the regular season starts.” Isn’t that why they play preseason games? With all the silly rules about the limited time you can practice how will they “perfect” this new scoring machine. New QB (Josh or draft pick) new WR (maybe two) almost an entire new OL.
Unless I’m wrong, it always takes an offense longer to be ready than the defense. Sure hope we don’t “shroud” ourselves out of a couple of wins early in the season!
April 4th, 2014 at 8:50 am
I too have some insight on the new offense. Keep this between us. We will run the ball. Except when we don’t. Then we will throw it. We can do each more often if we have a qb not named Glennon or Manziel.
April 4th, 2014 at 9:03 am
I say to keep this offense top secret, that The OC shall not be in contact with the offense until opening day. That way the other teams will have no chance of knowing what our offense will look like.
Glennon is still on the roster, how you like them apples.
April 4th, 2014 at 9:05 am
Espo,
We would be better served to use the first round pick on BPA, and not a QB. However, if we had to take a QB in the first, it better effing be Manziel.
Teddy’s hands are too small.
Bortles “looks like” Luck, but does he play like him. Hells to the no.
Carr- see David.
OT/Edge rusher should be the pick, but you never know.
Biggest red flag about. Manziel is his agent , the same as Freeman’s (Eric Burkhardt). I would not draft Manziel bc he is not BPA, and eff Burkhardt. I have litte
Me doubt that Eric Burkhardt leaked the Freeman crap, and then tied to pin it on Schiano. He’s a snake, liar, cheater, and dog sh!t agent. Thanks for ripping our team up to shreds.
We could survive injuries and MRSA, but the crumbling of Freeman is all on Burkhardt. His agent was only worried about $$money$$. He maneuvered in a public feud to get Feeeman’s release and the. Got him 3mm with the Vikings. Makes me wonder if Eric Burkhardt is all about his clients well being, and the integrity of he team.
Schiano was a terrible in game coach, but he had an eye for talent and he is an honest man. Burkhardt/ Freeman/ and local radio all are WRONG.
April 4th, 2014 at 9:14 am
Thaaaats the biggest red flag about Manziel? His agent? Lol. If that’s the case then we’ve got nothing to worry about.
April 4th, 2014 at 9:21 am
Rome wasn’t built in a day.
Lovie hasn’t even addressed his team yet.
Might be expecting a little much to magically turn around the lowest offense in the league on a dime with five draft picks to work with.
April 4th, 2014 at 9:31 am
@Barry- 17 points may not be pretty but if you get a “W” it doesn’t make one bit of difference. I’m excited either way!
April 4th, 2014 at 9:33 am
32nd ranked offense (18 pts game)
32nd ranked passing offense (170 yards per game)
32nd ranked receiving offense
22nd ranked rushing offense
That is what Mr. Smith has inherited.
Naturally, looking at the above stats its totally ridiculous to change QB’s…..
April 4th, 2014 at 9:36 am
@Eric- I agree. I think fans should be cautiously optimistic. McCown/Glennon does not equal Manning/Brady. I wouldn’t hold my breath on scoring 30+ points a game just yet. Hell, what do I know! I guess we’ll find out soon enough.
April 4th, 2014 at 9:43 am
They may intend an “up tempo” offense, but if Josh McCown is starting that just means very fast 3and outs, or picks.
April 4th, 2014 at 9:50 am
Naturally, looking at the above stats its totally ridiculous to change QB’s…..
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Right Eric, lets just ignore all the other factors that contributed to those stats and blame it all on the rookie QB. ignorance is bliss. Or is it hate that is bliss?
April 4th, 2014 at 10:24 am
@couch,
No hate only facts.
Not subjective feely goodie delusions about Glennon being good.
April 4th, 2014 at 10:53 am
I just hope this coaching staff knows how to make 1/2 time adjustments.
April 4th, 2014 at 11:02 am
Well when McCown reveals he can’t cut the mustard, the Bucs can always turn to the excellent backup QB Glennon. Most agree that’s what he is, no?
April 4th, 2014 at 11:11 am
Who knows what McCown/Glennon can do behind a pass blocking line and a RB or two? Maybe some receivers? Naw. Some on here think they are all knowing.
April 4th, 2014 at 11:12 am
WOW! Break News! Offenses are supposed to score points! Up next! Bucs Have to score more points than the other team to win next year!
April 4th, 2014 at 11:28 am
Not subjective feely goodie delusions about Glennon being good.
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Who said anything about Glennon being good? Lol it’s almost as if you are scared that he actually might be good if given a real chance.
You are showing your hate more and more with every post.
April 4th, 2014 at 1:23 pm
“Who said anything about Glennon being good?” – Couch
That’s a joke, right? That’s the whole premise of the MGM.
My stance is “Don’t give props until they are earned.”
April 4th, 2014 at 3:05 pm
It’s not a joke when in context with the conversation were having on this post. Has nothing to do with the MGM. You can’t look at offensive rankings as a whole and label it all a rookie QBs fault. That is insane.
April 4th, 2014 at 4:51 pm
All I know is that the longer they hold out on the offensive style that someone will be burned at the stake if they show up with a mediocre offense that isn’t winning any games.