Cops: Baylor “Intentionally” Knifed Williams
March 25th, 2014
Cops believe Eric Baylor, brother of Bucs WR Mike Williams, “intentionally” knifed Williams.
The Hillsborough County Sheriff’s Office has released its report on what happened in Mike Williams’ own home Sunday afternoon when his brother, Eric Baylor, knifed Williams in the thigh, which required hospitalization to treat the wound.
Greg Auman of the Tampa Bay Times has all the details.
@gregauman: HCSO probable cause statement on Eric Baylor says he “obtained a knife and intentionally stabbed (Williams) … left thigh near the knee. … Witnesses at the scene testified that (Baylor and Williams) were fighting and observed (Baylor) with the knife during fight.”
The police report also details the specific injury occurred near the “anterior portion of his left thigh near the knee.”
Joe knows the Bucs fans that have turned on Williams as if he is David Berkowitz incarnate in only a matter of weeks, all because there was a mattress in his front yard, loud music at his house, a grease fire in his kitchen, and he had the gall to get knifed at home, won’t be happy to learn this. Can you imagine?
Joe is just amazed how quickly Bucs fans have turned on Williams.
March 25th, 2014 at 4:08 pm
I hope mike well. I hope he gets his crap together. I hope he can continue to be a productive player for this team.
March 25th, 2014 at 4:09 pm
in only a matter of weeks all because there was a mattress in his front yard and had loud music, a grease fire in his kitchen and had the gall to get knifed in his own house won’t be happy to learn this. Can you imagine?
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Joe, you realize you just provided the reasons people aren’t happy with Mike right? This isn’t a one shot deal, this is part of a larger pattern. Will he get it together? Based off the fact he initially tried to lie to the cops to protect his brother (aka the guy who stabbed him), I’m not even close to convinced. Hopefully he figures it out, but as of now he’s unreliable.
March 25th, 2014 at 4:10 pm
Will he be ready for camp, OTAs, etc?
Cause I could give damn about off the field stuff if it doesn’t affect Sundays.
March 25th, 2014 at 4:12 pm
It’s not like he killed someone.
March 25th, 2014 at 4:13 pm
Why Joe? Dexter Jackson, Aqib Talib, Josh Freeman, and now Mike Williams. They care more about partying and hanging out with the wrong crowd (even if it is your brother) than making millions of dollars playing football for our beloved Bucs! That’s why.
One incident can be forgiven. But when you are told to keep your nose clean because it has been dirty for so long, sorry.
Would you like watch your neighbor with the Code violations who continues making dumb decisions play football and make a few million in the process Joe? How much of a Bucs fan would you be knowing they let this guy play for them?
You defend some interesting people Joe. Guess he should have hit a cabbie or grabbed a coach to deserve your ire.
March 25th, 2014 at 4:14 pm
quickly?
what is this like the 5th time he’s made the news…
March 25th, 2014 at 4:15 pm
trade him while he still has value, ONLY if you can get like a 2nd rounder though. other than that cross your fingers and have a backup plan!
March 25th, 2014 at 4:17 pm
Dexter Jackson??? Which one? The good Dexter Jackson Joe hasn’t heard much bad about. The bad Dexter Jackson was just a pathetic player. You cannot compare Talib and Williams. Talib put people’s lives in danger multiple times. Williams is nickel and dime nonsense. And no, there is no way Joe is going to blame a guy who got stabbed. That’s idiotic, sorry.
Freemen is just a massive headcase. Not sure there is anything illegal about that.
March 25th, 2014 at 4:17 pm
The MOST interesting part of that tweet by Auman is the fact his brother tried to stab or cut him in the knee! Dude tried to end his career!
March 25th, 2014 at 4:18 pm
Uh, huh.
March 25th, 2014 at 4:18 pm
Fans are upset because he had major RED flags coming out of college, hence being drafted in the 4th round . Sure seems like once MW19 got paid it was time to maybe let down his gaurd and the next thing you know it was time to lead a rap battle crew (BTW I like hip hop). Gets injured at the start of the season, then racks up over $200,000 in fines from missing or being late to multiple meetings and rehab sessions. Never want to read a book by its cover but his brother looks a little rough around the edges to me. Getting in knife fights during the day, are probably not the kind of people you need in your life. Good times.
March 25th, 2014 at 4:21 pm
Nothing illegal about any of it. Just BS you don’t need so get rid of it. Not like Williams is worth more than Penn or Joseph. There have been rumors the Bucs weren’t happy with his hamstring rehab.
Like I said, I don’t blame him for getting stabbed by his brother. I blame him for hanging out with his brother to begin with (and all of his other friends with conflicting stories). Sounds cold and harsh, but if you are getting paid millions of dollars to play a game….. you have choices and sacrifices to make.
Ain’t like he was told to leave his family and go into combat for a year or anything.
March 25th, 2014 at 4:23 pm
He won’t get cut. His cap hit is too big that we’d basically pay him as much to play for another team, as we would for him to play for us. The best thing they could hope for is to trade him, but then again his salary is pretty big and not many will want to take it.
Keep him and try to help him. He isn’t getting in legal trouble, he is making bad decisions. That’s no reason to give up on the guy. Counseling and mentoring can help him if he’s willing.
March 25th, 2014 at 4:24 pm
Again, has Mike been arrested? Caught with marijuana or other drugs? Gotten a DUI? Caught Winslowing in a parking lot? Popped pills? Been fined or suspended by Goodell? Been late to or skipped a team meeting? Killed animals? Shot a man? Shot himself in the leg at a club? Been accused of rape? NO!!
All he has done was party when he couldn’t play football, scratched a door, and then got stabbed by someone else (how dare he!) and you all wanna run him outta town?
March 25th, 2014 at 4:25 pm
Don’t see how this helps Mike. He was fighting with his brother.
As an adult.
Forget the stabbing. Why was Mike fighting with anyone let alone his brother. Idiotic.
March 25th, 2014 at 4:26 pm
And the Dexter Jackson that cared more about weed than his team.
It isn’t about the partying itself! It is about the affect on the team. You could even say Talib’s stunts affected the team less than Williams, Freeman, and Jackson. If Williams doesn’t rehab properly he doesn’t come back in proper form. If he stays out too late he can’t prepare to his best.
And supposedly the NFL is the best of the best. Special forces dudes of football. Driven to succeed and win. That’s why their teams pay them lots of money. That’s why we watch them on Sundays.
March 25th, 2014 at 4:27 pm
Happy to hear this. There could be more to the story and of course there is but I believe if anything MW will only be more innocent than he already is. Pulling for MW19 and for us to keep him. Im a fan. Sue me for thinking the best in people.
March 25th, 2014 at 4:28 pm
That was Tanard Jackson. ^^
March 25th, 2014 at 4:28 pm
@The 300’s. There was no mention of partying.
March 25th, 2014 at 4:29 pm
$1,000.00 bail! This is a crime of the century. zzzzzzz!
March 25th, 2014 at 4:38 pm
@ walkdaplank – duh! thanks
@ cmurda – previous escapades
here is my point. vincent jackson (think i got that right lol) made headlines this weekend for flying with the thunderbirds and buying a bunch of tickets for active duty military at a lightning game. that’s the type of people we want on our team. not millionaires who have to be sued because they can’t pay rent.
March 25th, 2014 at 4:46 pm
“Pulling for MW19 and for us to keep him. Im a fan.”
Great post!!
I do think Mike is a turd, but you’re right. We should be pulling for him, and hope this is what was needed to get him to see the light.
March 25th, 2014 at 4:58 pm
You sure you are not thinking of Tanard Jackson? Joe had never heard anything bad about Dexter Jackson. Tanard Jackson couldn’t put the bong down and to the best of Joe’s knowledge, the NFL cannot suspend a player for having a mattress in his front yard or playing loud music or having a grease fire in his kitchen or getting stabbed by his brother but the NFL very much can suspend a player for hitting the bong.
March 25th, 2014 at 5:29 pm
I think with Lovie and Tedfords help he should be fine. I’m pulling for him. Don’t think a rookie could replace him for a while anyway.
March 25th, 2014 at 5:53 pm
Isn’t being an a-hole neighbor enough reason for people to dislike the player? And if you dislike a player isn’t that reason enough to hope he gets traded?
March 25th, 2014 at 6:07 pm
I agree with BoJim, “its not like he killed someone”. Seriously, I don’t get it, A mattress in the yard, partying, and his brother stabbed him with a knife in HIS some. MW, when healthy has been a good player. I don’t disagree he needs to keep a lower profile, but give him a chance to get back on the right track.
Now if you want to rake him over the coals bc of his contract ($10M), that I get. Dom did a poor job with that one. My gosh, I just think that is ridiculous.
March 25th, 2014 at 6:08 pm
btw, and its not like we are loaded at WR. What are we going to do, cut MW then use one of the few draft picks we have to replace him? Come on now. Thats just not a good idea.
March 25th, 2014 at 6:18 pm
Little things..16 traffic violations since 2010, probably speeding. No one killed. Kicked door in of a woman who wanted no part of him!! I wonder why? She must have been terrified!! In fear of her life. No one killed, no big thing. 50k in damages!! I’m a home owner, you cannot do 50k in damages by accident. Mike didn’t give a rats ass, he destroyed that house on purpose! Racing in the neighborhood, no respect for people or property. What if you were the owner of the destroyed home? What if you were the terrified woman? Little things??
March 25th, 2014 at 7:47 pm
What a jerk.
March 25th, 2014 at 8:41 pm
I disagree joe. If you look back through nfl history, very rarely does a guy who’s had this many incidents rarely turn out to be a good seed.
March 25th, 2014 at 9:10 pm
Joe,
I don’t want Mike Williams to get cut. I want him to be on this team for the rest of his career and help us win a championship or eight. I also want him to be a good citizen as well. Individually, all of these incidents are no big deal. However, collectively they are very alarming. Combine that with his cryptic social media posts and I personally don’t trust him if I’m coach and GM. Again, it’s the totality of the situation. He’s not wrong for getting stabbed, but he is wrong for (allegedly) fighting with his brother. He is wrong for missing rehab assignments (allegedly). He is wrong for causing damage to his rental home (allegedly). He is wrong for a ridiculous number of parking tickets (allegedly). There just comes a point where enough is enough, and he doesn’t seem to learn his lesson, or care. Trouble just seems to keep following him, and there is no sign it is going to stop. He’s a good player, but he’s not THAT good.
March 25th, 2014 at 9:21 pm
omg.
Tampa fan have some of the dumbest people I ever heard.
March 25th, 2014 at 10:09 pm
@Harry,
You do realize that killing someone isn’t the standard for whether or not someone deserves the job right? That’s an incredibly flawed way of thinking. Ask yourself this: would you want him as your neighbor? Would you want your kids looking up to him? If you were his boss, would you enjoy all these shenanigans? Would you feel comfortable paying him MILLIONS of dollars of your money, or would you feel better finding someone else to invest your money on?
I’m sorry, but I’m not going to be happy simply because he hasn’t killed anyone. I’d be pissed at the 16 traffic citations alone if I’m the owner. Not enough to cut him, but enough to put him on a short leash. He represents the team and the city poorly. While you may not care, many do, and I can damn sure promise you the members of this organization do.
March 25th, 2014 at 11:01 pm
You never got parking tickets?
March 25th, 2014 at 11:10 pm
It doesn’t matter so much what we think. I don’t see Lovie putting up with it. I would rather see a trade than a cut.
March 25th, 2014 at 11:11 pm
Here’s the deal, despite all of the nonsense, if between parties and hanging with his band, Mike is focusing on becoming a better player and his game is growing, if when the season starts he is burning defenders on a regular basis and making great acrobatic catches in the end zone, then no one cares about his immature antics. If on the other hand, if his is not showing growth as a professional player, his antics become very relevant and show him to be less then the man we hoped he would be. If thats the case let’s cut him loose so he can get on with his rapping career! We need real men with work ethics like Jerry Rice, Walter Payton and Derrick Brooks.
March 26th, 2014 at 12:45 am
You can’t say his antics don’t effect his play on the field. I could not understand how such a sure handed receiver would drop so many passes last year and look so sluggish out there before he got hurt, but now we sure know why and it isn’t any uglier than what Freeman did to his promising career after interacting with know it all Schiano who we know now wanted Freeman cut in the off season last year but the Glazers refused. But Lovie has now come out defending Williams as a victim, which tells me Lovie will try to turn him around first and hopefully will ask Dungy to help in the intervention, but if Williams comes out this season like he did last year Lovie will cut him just like he will warn him he will. He demands your best and won’t tolerate less in your production on the field. I like his approach best.
March 26th, 2014 at 1:48 am
“You never got parking tickets?”
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Not 16 in three years. And I believe they were moving citations. I just said parking to give him the benefit of the doubt. Again, you, like many others, are so desperate to prove your point that you grasp at straws as to what others say. You don’t address all the other stuff, nor do you address the totality of all the things he’s done. You are trying to look at everything on a one on one basis, without any regard with the alarming frequency in which it is happening. I guarantee you this new regime isn’t doing the same. But it doesn’t matter, you are going to stick to your guns. That’s admirable, but you are going to be one pissed off fan when he’s outta here (cuz itsa happening).
March 26th, 2014 at 6:13 am
I don’t think there gonna pull the trigger until the dust settles and they see exactly where they stand after the draft because right now it’s really thin @ receiver. Unless he f@&!s up again which is good possibility between now and then.