Will The Jets Return The Bucs’ Draft Pick?
March 12th, 2014
There lots of hunger for a Darrelle Revis return in New York. The Jets faithful don’t want Revis to land with their arch rivals in New England, where credible reports have him coveted by Bill Belicheat.Before 4 p.m. today, Tampa Bay is set to send the Jets the final bounty of last year’s Revis trade, their 2014 fourth-round draft pick. If Revis is not cut by that time (he will be), then the Bucs must give up a their third-round pick instead.
The New York Daily News and other Gotham sources are clamoring for the Jets to simply give the Bucs back their pick in exchange for Revis, a simple new trade.
Late last night, Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reported that a potential Revis deal has moved from hot chatter to “unlikely” because Revis is unwilling to alter his contract.
That said, Joe does not underestimate of the ongoing feud/hatred/rivalry of the Jets and Patriots. It hasn’t stopped since Belicheat quit the Jets head coaching job after a few days on the job in 1999. There’s little question that both teams want Revis. Rex Ryan is in love with him, and both teams lost their top cornerbacks in free agency.
March 12th, 2014 at 7:51 am
Two questions:
When has New England ever paid full retail for a free agent?
When has Revis ever played for less than full retail?
The answer to both of those questions is “never”.
So is NE the likely landing spot for Revis??
Its dumb. Plain and simple.
March 12th, 2014 at 7:56 am
So now that all the major cb free agents are off the board, would it be worth the gamble sending the jets our 3rd rd pick instead of the 4th? I would hold Revis ransom for a trade. Nobody will trade us if they think we will cut them. Get past today and i bet the trade offers start flowing in.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:01 am
Trade Revis back to the Jets for their First Round Pick, drop the Conditional trade of any pick this year (bucs don’t send their third or fourth rounder) – DEAL.
Basically the Bucs paid $16 Million to Rehab the Jets CB for a year, swapped last year’s 1st picks positions and then straight up, Jets #1-for-Revis in 2014.
Deal Done, Revis to Jets and not their rival Patriots
Wishful Thinking….
March 12th, 2014 at 8:07 am
I can see the headlines now: “Darelle Revis completes 1-year minor league rehab stint with Tampa Bay, returns to Jets”. All jokes aside, it would take somebody like Rex Ryan to bail us out of Dom’s mess. I’m looking forward to 4:00 so we can close this chapter and get back to Buc Ball.
On a different note, I’ll admit I was wrong about my bad feelings leading up to the FA bell yesterday. I’m impressed with the moves we’re making, not overpaying for the most part and realizing that there are WAY too many holes for just one guy to knock everyone’s socks off. I think it speaks volumes for how many guys want to play for Lovie which is a factor I underestimated.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:08 am
What I want to know is, who the hell is the mole that keeps telling the world we will cut a guy if we cant trade him? It seems to me, that is the kind of secret you keep if you have any respect at all for the team you are working for. I understand leaks. They happen. But this type of leak is preposterous.
Granted I know I have zero knowledge of the inner intricacies of an NFL front office or the media so maybe I’m missing something.
Here’s to hoping this is an example of the media making something out of nothing.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:12 am
If the jets were so enamored with Revis, they would have paid the 16 mil/year to keep him.
Their defense performed just fine without him last year.
The pats aren’t going to pay him what he wants.
I’d say the suitors for the greatest of all time are going to be limited, especially after his refusal to budge about his contract. Teams take note of that kind of thing, except the rock star.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:13 am
If we cant get anything in return for him, then we KEEP him for one more year.
We have to cut him next year to re-sign McCoy.
Revis is 28.
He has 2-4 more good years left before he starts slowing down.
We should NOT cut him by any means.
Keep him at least one more year, and lets see if we can win a superbowl!!
March 12th, 2014 at 8:14 am
This would be crazy awesome. I 100% understand the concept of “sunk cost” and how the Bucs need to do what is best for them right now; however, I just can’t get over the fact that the Jets would have received a 1st round pick in exchange for someone else to pay and rehabilitate Revis’ knee.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:17 am
Idzik just robbed us blind for Revis and what, he’s gonna become a charity case now to save us total embarassement? Yeah not happening. People just need to accept it, we are giving him away. Sucks but reality usually does.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:21 am
BEST thing that could happen did, Mr Talib goes away, and now Bill is in panic mode. So you know Rex doesn’t want his boy to go to the enemy. I hope that Bill gives us a 3/4th and maybe a 6th just so Rex has a fit.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:23 am
Idzik robbed nobody blind. Dominick set up the ridiculous contract which is the only reason the Bucs find themselves in this predicament. That being said, give him back for the Jets first rounder or cut him. Jets fans already getting the pleasure of their favorite player being paid $16 mil to rehab on another team.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:26 am
Idzik got a first and fourth, we got a rehab year for a guy. We got robbed blind, and its pure homerism to suggest otherwise. And if Idzik gets Revis back he goes instant legend and enters God territory. This is the worst trade in Bucs history, bar none. Not really debatable.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:33 am
Lets make that deal and call it a day.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:37 am
If I were Revis I would rework my contract and stay with all the FA signings the Bucs are doing. That said, it’s all about the money for players – I get that…but he has money, it’s all about a championship now. You got to like what the Bucs are doing and as a player I would want to be a part of that.
HOWEVER, that won’t happen – Revis is ALL about the money. Trade him if we can and move on. It’s obvious we’ve fumbled on his deal, just move forward.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:38 am
I just see Idzik being in the right place at the right time. Nobody was predicting the Bucs giving up Revis, so quit making it out that Idzik is some maatermind plotting world domination. This is on Dominick, plain and simple.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:41 am
It takes two to tango BucsfaninChina. Just admit we got badly fleeced and Idzik did incredible for a guy everyone knew wanted $15+ million a year before we traded for him. We all knew money was going to be huge, and here we are cutting him, apparently for money. Idzik did a remarkable job, I wish he was our GM. He’s straightened out the Jets except for QB in less than 1 season. They went 7-9 with some of the worst QB we’ve all ever seen from Geno.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:42 am
Don’t the bucs gain some leverage now that Verner signed such a friendly contract? Doesn’t Revis recognize that no one is going to pay him $16 once he is cut? Seems to me the only option is to keep him for another year and have the best CB backfield in the league with a new ferocious front four.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:45 am
Regardless of the trade or release…the question we face is how to spend the $16 million. I don’t think we got robbed on the Jets trade because we have a healthy Revis ready to play.
We are just simply making a financial decision because we need to make up for the poor performance of other players like Bowers….unwilling to wait on developing Spence & perhaps Glennon….the 16 mill is to shore up other positions.
Like it or not you really can’t look back you have to try to get what you can and move forward. I kind of like the idea of holding Revis out for a trade and taking our lumps with the 3rd vs 4th rounder.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:49 am
The Bucs spending spree, combined with more potential signings, leave no doubt Revis is gone. No point in even considering him staying, it’s over. Only question is will we squeeze a 5th rounder out of someone or will it be a straight cut? I still doubt we get anything because any team trading for him assumes the holdout risk (i.e. crappy teams like the Browns or Raiders).
March 12th, 2014 at 8:50 am
It was a flat out stupid trade for the Bucs to begin with. Who in hell wanted him here to begin with? Must of been Shitano. Revis and Butthead. I hope he burns whichever team takes him.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:53 am
@bucrightoff Yes, extremely sh*tty poorly thought out plan for the Bucs, but that is the furthest I will agree with you lol and you are correct that Idzik would be played out like a god in the town that never ceases to be patting itself on the back or be calling for someones head. That being said, if Revis were to go to the Jets I personally would not give Idzik an ounce of credit.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:57 am
Well you’ll be one of the few giving him no credit. If he trades Revis for his rehab year and a year later ends up with Revis and Sheldon Richardson and whatever comes of the other pick, he will be lauded around the league. Only the most homerist Bucs fans will not give him credit.
March 12th, 2014 at 9:15 am
No way the Bucs get anything for that greedy b@stard. Cut Revi$ loose and let’s see who wants to pay him $16 million. Nobody! This is just a painful step in the right direction.
Actually, in Tampa, Revis had zero guaranteed money. Later this week, he’ll have at least $25 million, probably $30 million guaranteed. –Joe
March 12th, 2014 at 9:21 am
I don’t mind the draft picks we gave up for revis. The guy is worth every pick we gave up. The way the contract is set up is great! No guaranteed money. It’s the 16 mill a season that is the killer. I’ve thought that from the beginning. Nobody else is willing to pay 16 mill a season for him.
March 12th, 2014 at 9:25 am
Wrong bucrightoff…trading Steve Young for a 2 and a 4 is the worst trade in franchise history.
This one is pretty pathetic though.
March 12th, 2014 at 9:42 am
Trading Young was a different kind of bad, though very similar too. It was impatience with Young, whom we traded way too early. Here likewise we’re giving up on Revis too early, but we paid the steep cost for Revis which is what makes it worse in my opinion. If Richarson pans out as an elite DT that means we gave up two elite players and ended up with nothing. I don’t see how anything can be worse than that.
March 12th, 2014 at 9:43 am
You guys are dreaming if you think Revis stays now. The Bycs have alread overspent the 20 mil they had. They have to release Revis to pay the players now. And 10 mill has to beset aside for the draft, or did you forget we have to sign those players too?
March 12th, 2014 at 9:54 am
I don’t know why any team wants to deal with this guy. He’s about money and nothing more.
March 12th, 2014 at 10:17 am
Snook, this is gonna shock you, but 80-90% of NFL players are about money first. Stunning, I know.
March 12th, 2014 at 10:31 am
But, bucrightoff, Revis is especially so. He was fine when his $16 million wasn’t threatened. But now that he is, when he is released he will try to holdout for more money, then end up having to sign for less.
And then that team will have to hear his whining every year of his contract.
March 12th, 2014 at 10:47 am
Well he’s not going to holdout as a FA so not sure why there’s even a mention there. He’ll get a nice deal from New England or Philly, something in the $12 million a year range. A 25% paycut for at least a 90% greater chance of winning a Super Bowl (and thus cashing in even more) is a fair trade for Revis. Might he hold out again? Honestly I doubt it. $16 million was his ceiling in terms of being paid, so he’ll never get there or close again. I’d imagine he’ll be looking for a 4-5 year deal for $50-65 million. Considering what Talib got, Revis at $12 million is a good deal.
And I will never have a problem with players doing this. The NFL is vicious and cuts guys the very second they have outlived their usefulness. I actually enjoy it when players give it back as hard as teams give it to them. Business is business and it goes both ways.
March 12th, 2014 at 10:58 am
Funny that people call Revis greedy…he signed a contract one year ago and now the team wants to take it back?
How is that being greedy? He signed the deal with no guaranteed money under good faith that he would work hard and earn his money with his play. He held up his end of the bargain and now the new guys come in and tell him its not good enough?
I’d tell the Licht and Lovie to kick rocks too if I were him.
March 12th, 2014 at 11:24 am
Revis is the greediest player in the NFL. He;s had so many contract squabbles (he was the last 1st round rookie to sign his rookie deal the year he was drafted as well) that the team that drafted him, that helped him achieve fame and fortune and the “Revis Island” nickname, didn’t want ANYTHING to do with him. They were sick of it. You can’t build a decent team around one All-Pro CB when his contract makes you unable to afford other players.
And you guys can talk about how he’s finally healthy, etc… that’s what was said at the end of the year but he was getting abused way worse at the end of the year than he was at the beginning. I mean Ted “Freaking” Ginn made him look silly as did the long TD he gave up to the Saints. He was not a shutdown CB at the end of the year. He was good… and there’s no guarantee he’ll be better… how many CBs have blown their ACLs and came back as good as ever? The answer is-NONE. Revis is already at that age where man cover CBs start to decline a little anyway, and with him operating with one good knee, the decline will be more rapid… Given his health and age, Revis is worth $10 mil a season at most. He did very little on the field to prove he was 33% better than the next highest paid CBs.
Good riddance. It was the worst trade in franchise history and the sooner we move on, the sooner we can fix this thing. I just hope that somebody is stupid enough to give us something for him… biggest problem is, the only people stupid enough to make a trade for him and his contract (Schiano and Dominik) are no longer employed by the NFL.
March 12th, 2014 at 12:42 pm
Everyone knows Revis will never get close to $16 mil PER YEAR, signing bonus or not, so way to nit pick the details, Joe. Revis IS greedy and, yes, the idiots in charge last year were stupid enough to give pay him. I was sick to my stomach when I heard we were giving up the picks and a ridiculous salary and I’m even more sick now knowing that was to rent him for a year at much less than 100%. Fortunately, they are gone and the damage is limited to a few draft picks and possibly a Glazer summer home. I’m sure someone will overpay for his services again but not anywhere near what he made last year. Buyer beware!
March 12th, 2014 at 2:46 pm
i can still see the patriots stealing him for a 5th somehow…i am endlessly amazed at how the patriots constantly get star players or solid role players for nothing from organizations that resemble dumpster fires. going all the way back to corey dillon from the epically bad bengals, on to randy moss, wes welker, talib, and blount…
March 12th, 2014 at 3:17 pm
I do seem to remember a lot of folks last year saying how we fleeced the Jets getting the best corner in football with a contract that gave the Bucs the option to cut him without too much cap impact…amazing what a difference a few months makes. Anyway, in my opinion trading for Revis made perfect sense last year. The HC at the time was acquiring players that he thought would fit his system as well as cover up the pass rush deficiencies. The GM at the time made it happen. The Glazers probably wanted to sell tickets and a name like Revis probably seemed like someone who could do that. THe only reason the deal seems so bad now is because we have a new HC who is trying to shape the roster with players that he feels fits his system and a new GM who won’t be condemned by his bosses for helping the new HC get what he feels he needs.