“Peanut” Tillman Is Coming To Visit
March 11th, 2014
ESPN and the Chicago Tribune are reporting that free agent superstar cornerback Charles “Peanut” Tillman, a longtime stud and Pro Bowler for Lovie Smith in Chicago, will bring his injured body to Tampa for a visit ASAP.
Tillman is 4 1/2 years older than Darrelle Revis, the all-world, healthy cornerback the Bucs don’t want anymore. And Tillman is recovering from a troubling knee and a torn triceps muscle.
As Joe wrote earlier, Tillman is damaged. Joe can’t hazard a guess at Tillman’s value to the Bucs without knowing what kind of cash he’s seeking.
March 11th, 2014 at 6:12 pm
Hope he’ll work for peanuts…..on second thought….no thanks…
March 11th, 2014 at 6:12 pm
Great option for the impending Revis exit. Why the Peanut hate Joe? Guy knows the system, is an instant improvement over out current corners and adds vetern leadership. Ease up Joe, Bucs are making a huge and successful splash today.
If you can identify any “hate” for Tillman, Joe would love to see it. –Joe
March 11th, 2014 at 6:15 pm
Sign him quick, and pick up another free
agent cornerback.
March 11th, 2014 at 6:16 pm
If he wants anything more than $5 million per, do not touch. Way too much risk
March 11th, 2014 at 6:22 pm
Ughhhh this would’ve made me happy if I knew we were keeping revis. 🙁
March 11th, 2014 at 6:22 pm
If the Bucs let Revis go and don’t bring in Verner or a top CB they are going to be in for a long season getting passed on.
With as many need as we have I can’t see us now having to ignore them and pick up a CB in the first round…
March 11th, 2014 at 6:22 pm
He’s not going to command top dollar.
And other than last season, he’s been nothing but durable.
Sign him.
I welcome a CB who wants more than just money.
March 11th, 2014 at 6:29 pm
we’ll try this again…the position Revis plays is about 7-9 on the value chart of this defense…you cannot afford to pay that position roughly 20% of your defensive CAP space. What part of this do you not understand?
March 11th, 2014 at 6:34 pm
joe or anyone explain why we have until 4 pm wed to make a decision on revis? isn’t he under contract? is it that if we do not trade or release him by then we have to honor his contract? i don’t have his contract readily available and can’t remember the terms. lol
March 11th, 2014 at 6:35 pm
if you have any math skills…you can kinda calculate what they value the CB position is…roughly 8-10% of your defensive allotment which is somewhere between 6-8 mil a year.
March 11th, 2014 at 6:35 pm
If he’s healthy (big if), this is a good signing. He creates turnover probably better than any corner. But he’s old and coming off some bad injuries. Very scary.
March 11th, 2014 at 6:35 pm
Joe, we know you by now. I don’t hear hate, but I do hear condescension. Pretty big word, but am I right?
March 11th, 2014 at 6:37 pm
vontae davis and sam shields, hardly in the conversation for elite CBs, each signed $10 mil\year deals. i’m guessing aqib talib gets a little more than that if his hammy checks out. and patrick peterson & richard sherman will get significantly more when the time comes. the market is moving towards a place where revis’ contract is less and less of an outlier, and replacing him might not be as cheap as the bucs first thought. also, i generally think it’s stupid to jettison an elite player before you have any idea how you will replace his contributions. we did not solve our problem of a PROVEN outside rusher, and we have nobody else on our roster i’d trust to defend the pass against drew brees & matt ryan
March 11th, 2014 at 6:38 pm
I don’t see Tillman anything more than a stop gap. His age and injuries would suggest his best playing days are behind him. The Bucs need long term answers at the position. Too bad they don’t like the guy they already have in the fold.
March 11th, 2014 at 6:38 pm
Because he is due a roster bonus and the 3rd rnd pick is lost.
March 11th, 2014 at 6:40 pm
Joe for being a bucs fan, you sure do bag on everything they do. why the hate about every move? I haven’t read much of anything positive out off this website today. I personally think we’ve made some awesome moves today.
What bag? You must not be reading clearly. –Joe
March 11th, 2014 at 6:40 pm
I thought he said at the Hall of Fame ceremony he wanted to retire a Chicago Bear
March 11th, 2014 at 6:40 pm
Gotta wonder if Lovie meant that he would tailor his defense to utilize Revis’s strengths of Revis IF Revis agrees to a restructured contract. I believe this was the plan all along if he didn’t. Get a guy like Tillman and another veteran CB for Nickel duties.The Tampa 2 doesn’t emphasize Cornerbacks as much as other schemes and 16 million to Revis I guess was too much to invest in that position. I disagree strongly but only time will tell if it is the right move. Getting no value by releasing of Revis seems almost illegal. P.S. Anthony Collins is visiting Tampa per Rotoworld also. This one actually excites me much more than Peanut.
March 11th, 2014 at 6:41 pm
@DWE, there are 3 milestones, tomorrow $1.5 mil is guaranteed, later on another 1.5, and then finally the remaining 13 is guaranteed. if i were jason licht and i didn’t want revis, i’d still be willing to eat almost 20% of his cap figure in order to buy time to work out a trade. then again, i wouldn’t be intent on cutting him in the first place, so it’s hard for me to get inside the minds of those who think doing so critical to a successful 2014. presumably, if it weren’t about helping the current year’s roster, we could let him play out the year and build up his trade value to shop him against a higher salary cap next year.
March 11th, 2014 at 6:41 pm
Kind of hard to trust anything lovie/licht said in the beginning when this rumor of revis being shipped out. Just doesn’t make sense. With all the moves they’re making why not keep him for one more year then make a transition? Too many pressing needs than to open another hole. For all the dramam happening in the NFC south, I feel like the whole division is laughing at us.
March 11th, 2014 at 6:41 pm
jlynch,
The key word is retire. He didn’t say he would play his whole career with Chicago.
March 11th, 2014 at 6:41 pm
@ DWE
If we dont get rid of him by 4 p.m. wed, we will owe the jets our 3rd round pick. If we do get rid of him by that time, we only owe our 4th rounder.
March 11th, 2014 at 6:41 pm
thanks Mr. Bonzai. love your handle
March 11th, 2014 at 6:42 pm
pick6 Says
” i generally think it’s stupid to jettison an elite player before you have any idea how you will replace his contributions.”
If Tillman is signed they will have.
March 11th, 2014 at 6:44 pm
pick6,
I agree. The Revis contract isn’t nearly as bad as everyone thinks. The team will be immediately worse if he’s traded or cut.
March 11th, 2014 at 6:48 pm
sam Says
“Joe for being a bucs fan, you sure do bag on everything they do. why the hate about every move? I haven’t read much of anything positive out off this website today. I personally think we’ve made some awesome moves today.”
What awesome moves???
Johnson is Clayborn, only slightly more experienced.
Zuttah was fine at center. We now have 4 TEs. The one signed is not a blocker. McCoy is a year from retirement.
March 11th, 2014 at 6:51 pm
Nobody could hate a guy nicknamed peanut.
March 11th, 2014 at 6:54 pm
“If the Bucs let Revis go”
PRB…Revis is gone. It’s not an “if” anymore.
March 11th, 2014 at 6:54 pm
Man I really like Tillman but he’s getting older and is coming off an injury.
March 11th, 2014 at 6:54 pm
Tillman? Old and injured.
Idiotic!
We tried counting on injured guys last year!!
Failed badly.
So why not do it again
March 11th, 2014 at 6:56 pm
Keep in mind that Tedford went and studied how the patriots run their system last season. Perhaps he’s trying to recreate a less injury prone/incarcerated version of gronk/Hernandez with Myers and Wright
March 11th, 2014 at 6:56 pm
“Johnson is Clayborn,”
Bullspit lol
I’ll trust Lovie on his analysis of what a good pass rusher is.
He said he was going after a sure answer, if this is what he believes is the best move, I’ll take it.
One thing I will not question Lovie on is pass rush.
March 11th, 2014 at 6:56 pm
@Buccaneer Bonzai since when did clayborn have 61 quarterback pressures in 1 season? cuz that’s what Johnson had last year without geno atkins. check your facts before you compare players.
March 11th, 2014 at 6:59 pm
Thank you PRBucFan. exactly right
March 11th, 2014 at 6:59 pm
87 you misunderstood what I meant
If they let him go as in release him, which I do not think will occur, I’m banking on a trade going through.
And also, the statement is still legitimate because it hasn’t happened yet 😉
March 11th, 2014 at 7:01 pm
This man could teach the back field how to strip balls away. I hope he signs.
The coach said he had plans in place, so far I think the change will help. If Revis is gone and we can possible get a trade, that’s great. I liked Revis, he is a great player, but the pay scale was to high for what the Bucs are putting together.
We went 4-12, how can the changes hurt. I know some feel might not like the changes, but we needed something different. I expect more changes to come.
March 11th, 2014 at 7:01 pm
I am sick to my stomach if the Bucs are to release Revis! He is the best defensive player in the NFL!
March 11th, 2014 at 7:01 pm
Okay, Clayborn is 3 years into the league. Compare those years with Johnson’s first 3.
Clayborn comes out ahead by a sack…and he missed 13 games. If he had played those games? Think about it.
Doesn’t matter…both will be on the field at the same time. We’ll see who is better.
March 11th, 2014 at 7:11 pm
Bucnnole says:
“Why the Peanut hate Joe?”
Sam says :
“Joe for being a bucs fan, you sure do bag on everything they do.”
It’s really not all that complicated if people ever listened to the Joe’s show on 620. After you hang around the Little Puppy for awhile you start to trash any move that is made by the Bucs. It’s the Little Puppy way.
March 11th, 2014 at 7:13 pm
If they will both be on the field at the same time why does it matter?
Again Lovie knows what he’s doing 😉
March 11th, 2014 at 7:14 pm
The Bucs could make it to the playoffs and the Little Puppy would say something like. Yeah well, you know they should have gotten a first round bye and there is no excuse for that and what’s the deal with them not getting that first round bye.
March 11th, 2014 at 7:15 pm
Well he also thought Free Free was our franchise QB 😉 lol
March 11th, 2014 at 7:16 pm
PRB…I’m just helping Revis departure to set in. Just so people get it, understand and let it sink in.
REVIS IS GONE!
March 11th, 2014 at 7:17 pm
@87 – I started to notice that as well. I don’t care to listen to people with a perpetually pessimistic outlook. It’s bad enough to follow a bad team, I don’t need to listen to people preaching doom and gloom all the time about it. I switched over to booger & rich and it’s a more enjoyable listen. Booger gives good insight and is upbeat, even when he disagrees with the move
March 11th, 2014 at 7:17 pm
Well maybe not understand….
March 11th, 2014 at 7:32 pm
I’m not happy we’re letting Revis go, but I do understand the reasoning. Was a great read a few days ago on BucsNat, regarding dominik goin “all in” with Revis deal. I thought we played the whole thing horribly and the whole deal screamed of desperation by Dominik/shiano. I really believe new “regime” is taking a much more realistic approach. We have ZERO depth at almost every position except RB, IMO the least valuable position, or the easiest to replace. We have to build from the inside out, on both sides of the ball. IMO, Dom was goin about backwards, by bringing in Revis and Goldson, while totally neglecting DL, and Oline. Dominik did some good things, but the bad totally outweighs the good. He was in over his head, IMO, without much help.
March 11th, 2014 at 7:37 pm
Especially when we have the 2 most important positions in this D filled by absolute studs in McCoy and David who are still on rookie contracts, and are gonna command a good chunk of defensive CAP.
March 11th, 2014 at 8:02 pm
Joe says,
“will bring his injured body to Tampa”
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…is he injured? I read where he said he’s on the mend and was close to 100%
then Joe says,
“Darrelle Revis, the all-world, healthy cornerback the Bucs don’t want anymore”
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Joe have one of those umbrella drinks on me, you’re having a mid-life crisis. you did vote for Reagan, right?
March 11th, 2014 at 8:14 pm
If we release Revis we need to pounce on Verner ASAP
March 11th, 2014 at 8:16 pm
Peanut will be good vet leadership. Probably only signs two year deal. Revis is not elite. Got burned by scrub receivers. He looked old and slow against panthers and saints. We can sign 5 quality guys for 16 million. Shine the love light on peanut, Collins and McCown!!
March 11th, 2014 at 8:17 pm
Didnt Gruden get a lot of heat for signing old vets from his former team?
Lovie is doing the same thing.
March 11th, 2014 at 8:35 pm
The guy forced ten fumbles(nfl record)and had three pick 6’s as recently as 2012.
Torn bicep last year.
The Revis knee is a far more serious injury. Not a long term solution but neither was Revis. Plus Peanut knows Lovie’s defense inside out.
Lovie knows what he is doing. He knows the DLine is the key and is addressing it fervently.
Get Peppers too. The heck with Revis, I never thought his heart was in it. What big play did he make all year to turn a game around?
March 11th, 2014 at 8:37 pm
Jerry-
They haven’t signed an old vet yet… and there’s nothing wrong with it to fill a hole for a short time, as opposed to Gruden, who would go all in with his free agents because he had absolutely no success at drafting.
March 11th, 2014 at 8:43 pm
If we indeed release Revis and get no compensation there is no understanding such a poor job of management lol.
Better to let him show the NFL how he can play at 100% and get max value out of him in a trade next offseason than get 0 for him.
Doesn’t seen like anyone else can bring in will need much cap space lol
March 11th, 2014 at 8:57 pm
The idiotic firing of Gruden is what has us in our present circumstance.
Lovie will fix it.
Bring in the peanut. He can play corner as well as Revis did last year or will this year, wherever he plays. And he will get more turnovers, which is what Lovie desires.
March 11th, 2014 at 9:09 pm
“He can play corner as well as Revis did last year or will this year, wherever he plays.”
That is an absolute ridiculous statement ahahahaha
March 11th, 2014 at 9:33 pm
Breaking news: Alterraun Verner just got signed to the Bucs….
Bye Bye Revis