Dealing Revis With An Eye On A Quarterback
March 11th, 2014
It’s still a QB-driven league
Yes, Joe’s still angst-ridden about the Bucs’ quarterback situation. It’s painful.
So in the spirit of winning a Super Bowl and having an offense that doesn’t celebrate first downs like they’re special occasions, Joe wants Teddy Bridgewater or Johnny Football to be the next Bucs starting quarterback.
If the Bucs could deal Darrelle Revis in a move that directly led to the Bucs landing one of those two quarterbacks, then Joe would be good with a trade. It’s really that simple.
Jettisoning Revis now is unnecessary, and that’s why Joe has a problem with it. Revis is a great player and nobody expects anything less than a superstar season from him this season. He’s an undeniable major difference maker on defense. He changes games by his mere presence. The Bucs can’t duplicate Revis’ impact in 2014, and they can still keep Revis and purchase their edge pass rusher in free agency.
In a 2014 season in which the Bucs are not going to the Super Bowl, Joe would like to see what Revis looks like in Lovie Smith’s defense, while Lovie also evaluates the rest of the Bucs key expensive pieces, Dashon Goldson, etc. That’s the best way to assess Revis’ value.
Joe gets that there may be various sound trades out there for Revis. Joe would look at any deal or series of transactions with an open mind. But outside of landing one of the blue chip rookie quarterbacks, Joe really doesn’t see the clear value in unloading Revis. He is not replaceable.
March 11th, 2014 at 10:03 am
If the Bucs could swap their 7th plus Revis to move up in the darft… I would be all for that… maybe even get a 3rd out of it.
March 11th, 2014 at 10:06 am
I like
Joe:
Can you imagine the uproar if the Bucs trade Revis and then end up drafting Manziel?
Suicide rates would skyrocket.
March 11th, 2014 at 10:10 am
Dedication to Joe.
Sorry, man. Cute, but Joe doesn’t do links that take readers away. –Joe
March 11th, 2014 at 10:12 am
yeah trade Hard-Hat Goldson if you want to clear up some money…
March 11th, 2014 at 10:12 am
No one is going to take that deal.
Honestly, I think the better idea would be to trade Penn to the Browns, swap picks and get a second.
Penn has more trade value than people suspect and his contract isn’t so bad (plus he would likely be willing to do a new deal).
That would pretty much land us our choice of QBs and the Browns would still have two first round picks.
Can anyone tell me how much cap space the Browns have?
March 11th, 2014 at 10:13 am
Darrelle Revis for Ryan Mallet
Straight up
March 11th, 2014 at 10:15 am
You can’t see it Joe? The tank for Jameis is on now. But we gotta fight the Jags for him, so it’s gonna be mighty tough.
March 11th, 2014 at 10:16 am
To trade Revis for anything less than moving up in the draft to get a QB would sicken me. Add an edge rusher to what we have on D now would be exciting to watch. So please, either give us an exciting D to watch, or a rookie franchise QB that will show some flash his first year.
March 11th, 2014 at 10:19 am
Bonzai, I agree with Buc Fan, Revis should be equal to a first round pick. If a team above us is willing to trade down and they have the cap space, that should be a doable deal.
March 11th, 2014 at 10:20 am
I fail to see why anyone would want Michael Johnson at top dollar. He’s only had one good year, and it wasn’t even his most recent one.
March 11th, 2014 at 10:22 am
Trading or releasing him is lunacy regardless. . This team is heading down hill fast and to think how can players trust Lovie. . Right… hope this is just bs and they mend this.
March 11th, 2014 at 10:23 am
Yeah ditching Revis to sign Michael Johnson would pretty confirm we’re in trouble with Lovie and Licht already. That’s trading a guy who shuts down half the field for a guy who can be taken away with a double team. Just not good.
March 11th, 2014 at 10:23 am
I disagree on two points:
1. Everyone agrees Revis will have a superstar season.
2. The Bucs can fill holes in FA and keep Revis.
I don’t think Lovie agrees with those two either, or our GM.
March 11th, 2014 at 10:24 am
Harry Says
“Bonzai, I agree with Buc Fan, Revis should be equal to a first round pick. If a team above us is willing to trade down and they have the cap space, that should be a doable deal.”
Except for his salary…which makes it darn near impossible to trade him…that and his unwillingness to redo a contract for less.
A one spot leap in the draft would be useless anyway…except that if the Falcons are dumb enough to do it with a division rival and take on the Revis $16 million contract.
It is very unlikely that the Falcons will take a QB, so moving up a spot doesn’t help us in any way.
March 11th, 2014 at 10:26 am
Compounding the problems created by trading for DR will be that no one in the NFL will give the Bucs anything for him. Thus the Bucs will cut him rather than pay the roster bonus and avoid the loss of a 3rd round pick to the Jets. So to recap, for last year’s high first round draft pick, Mark D got, well err, nothing.
March 11th, 2014 at 10:26 am
How about Revis straight up for Ryan Mallet?
March 11th, 2014 at 10:34 am
Let’s play devils advocate and lay out a couple scenarios.
First
Bucs cut Revis, taking $16 million and adding it to the cap space.
This would enable them to spend more money, and if they have deals worked out verbally with a couple really good FAs, this would make sense if they needed the money to do the deals.
Second
If they do not cut Revis, all they would lose is $1.5 million, which is the bonus he gets a day from now (or today at 4 PM, whichever is the case). They would still be able to trade him at a later date.
I think this is the best way to go. Yes, they would pretty much sacrifice the $1.5 million, but they would still be able to clear up $14.5 million if needed later. Still a hefty sum.
Third
They could trade Revis. If they are willing to pay him the $1.5 million to buy time to trade him, because there is not enough time left now, teams would have to accept that the Bucs will not cut him and the offers could start coming in.
That would be a gamble on the Bucs part because of the roster bonus of $1.5 Million, but overall that is not such a bad gamble.
I still believe the rumors of him being cut were put out by the Bucs to force Revis to the table.
March 11th, 2014 at 10:35 am
Throbakbuxfan Says
“How about Revis straight up for Ryan Mallet?”
Did you just create a new username just to repeat that suggestion? 😉
March 11th, 2014 at 10:52 am
*If* trading Revis could get Bridgewater, it wouldn’t bother me in the least. Other than that, I want Revis wearing whatever it is that the Bucs will be wearing next year.
I do, however, look forward to watching Johnny Gazelle run around until two DEs ‘make a wish’ with him. I can just hear Johnny now, “…and they tore off my right arm, and threw it over there. Then they tore off my left leg, and threw it over there!”
March 11th, 2014 at 10:56 am
No Teddy Bridgewater thanks.
March 11th, 2014 at 11:05 am
@Bonzai —
Didn’t ‘t Johnson play considerable time at linebacker last year? He had. 9 passes defended — nine more than Clayborn. His production may have been affected by the Cincy scheme with him.
Not an argument for or against, just an honest question.
March 11th, 2014 at 11:36 am
For the amount of cap room he’s occupying, Revis is not only replaceable, but they can get 2 or 3 quality starters on this team for the same space. This is arguably a greater impact than Revis can have in a defensive system that *prefers* to sit back in zones.
March 11th, 2014 at 12:20 pm
Hahaha don’t mention bridgewater joe we know you only have eyes for Johnny football
March 11th, 2014 at 12:26 pm
pablo Said:
“Darrelle Revis for Ryan Mallet
Straight up”
The case against it is that Mallett has completed a grand total of one pass in an NFL regular-season game. No thanks.
March 11th, 2014 at 1:07 pm
I agree with Joe, keep Revis this year
March 11th, 2014 at 1:07 pm
I agree with Joe, keep Revis this year