“Shocked” If Bucs Don’t Draft QB
March 4th, 2014
One of three QBs who would make the Bucs’ dreams come true, says an NFL Network analyst.
If it isn’t clear by now to the Mike Glennon Mob that the Bucs’ braintrust, including general manager Jason Licht and coach Lovie Smith, are not anointing Mike Glennon starting quarterback, then Joe isn’t sure what to say.
While both Licht and Lovie are quick to point out they believed Glennon did good things last year in less than idyllic conditions, neither thinks his 13-game sample size was enough to stamp Glennon as the leader of the future.
Besides, neither Licht nor Lovie drafted him. They didn’t invest anything in him.
NFL Network draft analyst and all-around good guy Charles Davis is pretty certain if a top-rated quarterback is still on the board when the Bucs draft at No. 7, the Bucs will call a quarterback’s name and that very well could be some guy named “Manziel,” Davis told Joe’s good friend Justin Pawlowski of 987thefan.com.
“I don’t see how they could turn that down,” Davis responded when asked if the Bucs will take one of the top three quarterbacks, if available, with the 7th selection. “If one of those quarterbacks is there (at 7), I’d be shocked if the Bucs didn’t jump on one of those guys. They’d love one of those quarterbacks. I think they’d be in shock if one of them were available with the 7th pick.”
Even if the Bucs dip their toe into free agency at quarterback, there isn’t a reliable starting QB available, even if said signal-caller beat out Glennon. Michael Vick can’t stay healthy for 16 games and Joe just might go screaming into the woods if the Bucs start any quarterback with the last name of “McCown.”
So if Licht and/or Lovie are not convinced Glennon is their guy, signing Vick or McCown really is nothing more than patchwork.
March 4th, 2014 at 11:08 am
The Bucs are not going to draft a QB in the first round, not under Lovie. He has made clear offense does not when games and he hired a QB guru OC that says just that. Tedford’s job is to make *any* QB competent. Lovie will win games with defense and Tedford will not lose games with offense.
March 4th, 2014 at 11:10 am
Wait a second! A QB with the name McClown would be a perfect fit with their new uniforms.
March 4th, 2014 at 11:11 am
Sitting at the 7h spot makes it difficult to predict who the Bucs might pick. The top QBs and defensive players could realistically be off the board with the first six picks. An offensive lineman or Watkins might be the best available. I agree with the article, free agency isn’t the place to find the long term solution at QB.
March 4th, 2014 at 11:13 am
Mike glennon has more speed, agility, and playmaking abilities then manziel and bottles…
Bridgewater has a nothing on glennon.
MGM capo
March 4th, 2014 at 11:15 am
The tag you have under the picture is the exact reason why the “MGM” is so adamantly against drafting a top ranked QB. It’s not because we think Glennon is Montana 2.0, it’s because you think that any of the QBs at the top are going to lead us to the promised land simply because they’re at the top of a bad QB class. The “pick a name, it doesn’t matter because any of them will be what we need” approach is what makes it not a palatable scenario, for me anyway. I heard a take on The Commish’s show this morning that was a decent point as an argument for Manziel in that he did a lot of tossing it up to his tall receivers and letting them make a play, which is what we have in Jackson and Williams. That’s not a ringing endorsement of Manziel because it’s basically saying that we’re going to be living on a prayer that our receivers can bail him out (which is exactly the knock people have on Glennon) but it at least is an assessment based on actual attributes of the QB and seeing how it pertains to the available talent on our team
March 4th, 2014 at 11:16 am
Go DL and OL in the first two then Aaron Murray in the 4th.
March 4th, 2014 at 11:17 am
One day the #8 glennon jersey will be more iconic then 18 manning or 12 Brady
MGM capo
March 4th, 2014 at 11:17 am
Glennon emerges, and Joe and the 620 Big Darrell will be eating crow by the flocks.
March 4th, 2014 at 11:18 am
I’ll take the part about it being a bad class back. It’s a mediocre class. Last year’s was bad and this one is a little better.
March 4th, 2014 at 11:19 am
Another chance to promote Johnny….no opportunties missed by Joe….get ready for the Xanax Joe.
March 4th, 2014 at 11:22 am
Yes draft the QB. Just don’t be wrong on which one or all of us on this board will rip you to shreds Lovie. That’s what we do here.
March 4th, 2014 at 11:24 am
Our O-Line and D-Line need upgrading far worse than does the QB position.
No QB could produce with the lack of talent Glennon had to work with.
March 4th, 2014 at 11:26 am
Those of us not wanting Manziel are just jealous we didn’t get to dress like Scooby-Doo in college and “pull” two-bit whores dressed like cowgirl skank.
March 4th, 2014 at 11:28 am
@lightningbuc:
Really? College is all about pulling whores. Don’t hate bro.
March 4th, 2014 at 11:31 am
@Snook – This isn’t the first time he’s gotten on that soap box. I’ve got a feeling that there are a host of issues there and we’re only seeing the tip of the iceberg
March 4th, 2014 at 11:48 am
Licht and Lovie did not declare Glennon as an unacceptable quarterback. They have not seen enough of him. For them the jury is still out while for you the decision is done. Maybe that’s why you are not GM. Once they get a chance to work with Glennon he may show he is worthy of grabbing the job. Signing a McKown provides competition at QB if Glennon does not work out. The Bucs have plenty of needs and the safer more beneficial move is to bring in a more certain pick that can start for many years, like an OT. I do believe they will draft a QB but I would suggest it will be a 7th round mobile QB like Boyd, Savage, or Thomas. All have strengths to work and could develop into a valued pick. Supposedly having a quality QB development coach will hopefully pull the best out of Glennon and the “pick”. McKown would add that veteran presence that is capable of starting or providing support to a young QB. Next year the picture will be clear on Glennon. Right now it is not.
March 4th, 2014 at 11:50 am
Why would we select Manziel at #7 (least of our needs), after four QB needy teams pass on him. That doesn’t make sense. Why is Manziel “NOT” good enough for Houston, Jacksonville, Cleveland, and Oakland, but he’s perfect for the Bucs. What is it that we know that they don’t? Or better yet, “what is it that they know, that somehow we’re to stupid to know?
RED FLAG, We mustn’t waste picks on a position that won’t be an upgrade.
If the first FOUR NFL Quarterback needy teams pass on consensus #1 J.Manziel, What kind of statement does that make? Really, are all FOUR teams that stupid?
March 4th, 2014 at 11:51 am
Jonnyfootballfan.com
March 4th, 2014 at 12:11 pm
Manziel is an intriguing pick. I agree he is high risk high reward. I realize his stats in the pocket are pretty good when he stays in the pocket. If we end up with him I will be one of his biggest supporters but I fear if he just runs too much that NFL defenders will destroy him. Also most franchise QB’s need a few seasons from being drafted to become great. Favre for example was drafted by the Falcons and did not pan out until his time with the Packers. I want to win now as do all of the fans. I wouldn’t be opposed to maybe giving Shaub a try and letting a rookie QB develop. I think Glennon can be a decent backup but if we get a free agent QB and drafting one may make h I m the odd man out.Too many unknowns now. I can’t wait for free agency and the Draft to see what we do. We have to win sooner than later. Steve Young was another one that did not pan out in the beginning but went on to become pretty good. I think any rookie QB will need time to flourish. Any thoughts clan?
March 4th, 2014 at 12:17 pm
I’m fine drafting Manziel (or other top-rated QB) if he’s available at 7, and Smith and Licht think he’s worth the risk. But the Bucs have enough needs, including a lack of depth in many positions, that trading up makes little sense, especially with no Andrew Lucks in the mix. I suppose moving up a spot or two might be possible without giving up too much, but even that seems questionable if we can’t pick up picks some other way.
All that said, I suspect we’ll draft a defensive player with that pick or trade down.
March 4th, 2014 at 12:33 pm
I’d be shocked too. With our crap offensive line we’d be sentencing any QB to the IR by week 9, likely to become a permanent IR member if its Manziel who is Vick/RGIII all over again. Extremely unlikely to play many full seasons with his body and style. Imagine Lavonte David getting Johnny lined up for a hit. Could be a career ender.
March 4th, 2014 at 12:34 pm
Dream scenario, Bucs pass on Johnny Football, drafts Left tackle to replace Penn who gave up 11 sacks that was second most of all Tackles last year.
March 4th, 2014 at 12:48 pm
I agree with all the folks, and said it myself,it starts and ends on both lines of scrimmage.Manning is a great qb and would be the fourth best qb in the NFC south if he played behind the Bucs offensive line.If you watched the super bowl you know what I mean.Fix the offensive line before you replace the qb.
March 4th, 2014 at 1:19 pm
Just 1 question Joe? What if Johnny Football sucks in the NFL? Would you man up and eat it because you where so wrong? Just curious? I and everybody knows you have a huge crush on him. But for every good take you get on him….. Well I can find a bad.
March 4th, 2014 at 1:35 pm
Free agency should clear up some of the new regime’s plans. If they bolster the offensive and defensive lines through free agency. It would make sense that they would pull the trigger on a QB at 7.
March 4th, 2014 at 1:43 pm
MTM,
I agree with you…lets get through FA first…lol. The needs we have cannot be addressed with the draft alone.
March 4th, 2014 at 2:53 pm
biff barker, I see it similarly. I find myself liking the ”second-tier” QBs in this draft more than the firsts; though I guess Murray is more of a third-tier.
I hope the club brings in a decent vet & leaves drafting a quarterback high to the 2015 draft.
March 4th, 2014 at 3:03 pm
Y’all just don’t understand that unless Glennon magically becomes elite in all other facets of his game to make up for his statuesque quality he will not succeed.
I just don’t see it happening.
Move up and snag one of the guys not named Manchild
March 4th, 2014 at 4:00 pm
this qb class is way above last year’s crap class in which our qb was taken third, and in the third round. as many as 5 qb’s will go in the first this year. glennon would not go above third this year.
qb is the most important position, not oline or dline. that is why they get paid bank when you get a franchise-type qb. qb is our biggest hole and weakest area.
geoffrey glennon realist – ggr
March 4th, 2014 at 4:51 pm
But Greg schiano said glennon has been an elite talent since high school! Greg schiano knows what a franchise qb looks like. Mike glennon is the true face of the franchise!
MGM capo
March 4th, 2014 at 6:25 pm
pfffft omg
March 4th, 2014 at 6:27 pm
if you think mike glennon is a franchise QB you are either on crack or just plain stupid
March 4th, 2014 at 11:11 pm
When Schiano speaks the truth is the opposite of what he says. If he says he likes competition and he’ll start the best players that would mean Teo was one of the two best defensive ends on the team. I rest my case!
March 5th, 2014 at 3:44 pm
Mike glennon mob boss Said:
“Mike glennon has more speed, agility, and playmaking abilities then manziel and bottles…
Bridgewater has a nothing on glennon.”
lol. Right on!