Joe Talks Glennon Mob And More
February 12th, 2014It was time again to sit down for an hour this evening with the dean of Tampa Bay sports radio, Steve Duemig of WDAE-AM 620.
Joe talked a bunch about Mike Glennon, Greg Schiano and the Browns, trading up in the NFL Draft, and more.
February 12th, 2014 at 10:25 pm
This was crap. You gave Duemig all the talking points before the segment. Duemig was practically reading from a script. Don’t tell me you fools don’t use your soapbox to set the agenda. Another thing, the MGM MOB as you put it never has said to give Glennon the job outright. Everyone of them have been saying bring in competition. You guys and Duemig don’t even want to give Glennon a fair shot to win the job and don’t tell me thats not true. You know grabbing a QB in the first round would not give Glennon a fair shake. Stop the LIES
February 12th, 2014 at 11:55 pm
As usual, Dew Mig seems to think yelling and insulting callers is a reasonable way to have football conversation. I don’t know how this guy stays on the air.
February 13th, 2014 at 12:24 am
As a member of the Want the Bucs to Win Mob, I am anti Johnny Football completely and wholeheartedly. I don’t particularly care for Bridgewater either. I do like Bortles and Garoppolo in this years draft. If we have the ability to draft Sammy Watkins at 7, to me, he is our “must draft” player. I think if we get Watkins then it would make Vick a fit for our team.
I think bringing in Vick to compete with Glennon would be a good thing for this team, though I am not opposed to giving Glennon another year to see what he can do. Winston, Hundley, and Marriota coming out in next years draft seem much more appealing than Manziel, Bortles, and Bridgewater to me.
And to those that say “Waiting until next year means we will not have a pick near the top to get one of those picks.” I say good. That means we had a better year. Plus I think quality QB’s will be available around the 15-20 range, where I think the Bucs will be picking next year anyways. And Glennon just might surprise some people and mess around and have a great year.
With all that said Watkins in the first and Garoppolo in the second to compete with Glennon would not make me upset. Neither would giving Glennon another year.
Sincerely,
Concerned Season Ticket Holder
February 13th, 2014 at 12:25 am
^^^^^^ I agree
February 13th, 2014 at 1:28 am
its funny how you guys defended bradford from the rams for not having much receiver help and also having a bad oline, however with glennon is a big deal when he barely had receiving help beside jackson and the oline underperform the whole season. smhhh
February 13th, 2014 at 1:30 am
I am taking a very cautious wait and see attitude this off season as I think it’s going to be a while until this team is good again. I am skeptical of this coaching staffs ability to put an NFL quality offense on the field. I think the defense will be better but you have to be good on both sides of the ball and we don’t have a proven NFL caliber offensive coordinator, QB or offensive line. I wish Glennon the best but right now we have no idea who our future QB is and I hope it’s not Vick else we are in trouble because he is not that good and i personally have much more dignity and self respect than to chear for that psychopathic looser.
February 13th, 2014 at 1:39 am
Funny, Joe didn’t see you in the studios at WDAE. What is your real name, Krasniqi, Eric or Mamola?
And what agenda might that be, for the Bucs to win? Guilty as charged. Bread out of handcuffs Barney.
Apparently, you are either tone deaf or never listened to the show.
Whose fault would that be, then?
February 13th, 2014 at 1:48 am
Why are you people so vigilant for coverage that you don’t pay for, you idiots should be saying thanks for the thorough coverage that’s not influence or manipulated by mass media (ESPN) who doesn’t know the teams just always take the safe talking points.
Bottom line is Glennon didn’t leave complete game film to warrant a wedding to licht and Lovie, so they have to win now – damn two to three years later, that’s not today’s NFL.
I’m wondering what would be the excuse for next year with another mediocre season because you’re scared to move on from Glennon. Yeah that’s smart.
February 13th, 2014 at 1:50 am
The film says he’s better than a regressed Freeman and good backup NFL qb.
That’s what on film –
February 13th, 2014 at 2:04 am
Architek ….you’re fired!! ..your days as GM are over
I looked into my crystal ball and your Johnny Football (Alfred E. Neuman look-a-like) sucks and his game never translated to the NFL. He was relegated to backup on another team and the Bucs have never recovered from giving up the farm and are mired in another streak of double digit losses, even though they had the #1 pick for 3 consecutive years. By the way the Rams have won 3 straight Super Bowls.
February 13th, 2014 at 2:53 am
Trading up to no 2 overall to ensure JF or TB would cost our 2014 2nd rounder, and at least next years first rounder, probably more.
That leaves us with 2014 pick no 2 overall, a fourth, a 5th and a 7th round pick. Next year our first pick would likely then be in the range of 45 to 64 overall.
Can we really expect to fill the holes we need to fill (with starters) with only 2 or three picks spread over the first couple of days of the draft for the next 2 years (at least)?
If we pull the trigger on this type of trade, it must be done with a view towards 2017 and beyond.
Personally i’m cool with that, however if that is to be the case, then we should be talking about trading VJax and maybe some others for extra picks to fill holes in between now and then.
February 13th, 2014 at 3:03 am
To hell with your crystal ball and Johnny Football sightings. What are the friggin’ lottery numbers???
February 13th, 2014 at 3:04 am
Muchos gracias!
February 13th, 2014 at 9:53 am
samcro get used to it…..
February 13th, 2014 at 10:05 am
nope…*sigh its a bummer because I like To listen to Joe. I look forward to you flexing away from “that one”….
February 13th, 2014 at 10:12 am
@Joe…Hey Joe, we know how you like to show us what folks around the league think about MG8…here are some comments yesterday about what noted NFL analyst Greg Cossell thinks about the object of your man crush…Johnny Football.
Among other things (good and bad) Cossell said:
““As you evaluate and transition him . . . there’s a wide variation in his play, so there’s a consistency issue,” said Cosell, the executive producer of “NFL Matchup” and a senior producer at NFL Films. “You have to decide how you want to deal with that issue. There’s a lot to like, but there’s also some that’s concerning, so how do you deal with that?”
And…
“…losses to LSU and Missouri — were notable in how poorly the 2012 Heisman Trophy winner played. If those were the first two games you put on and watched, you’d say he’s almost undraftable,” Cosell said. “He was so bad in those two games that you’d struggle to figure out, ‘Can I even draft this guy?’”
And…
“The other thing I say about Manziel is he’s much more of a see-it-throw-it quarterback than an anticipation thrower. He’s not really a timing/anticipation thrower on film. So you have to figure out the pros and the cons and where you stand on those pros and cons.”
And…
“Cosell said that based on his study, Central Florida quarterback Blake Bortles was the passer he liked most at this time.
However, Cosell also noted that none of the draft-eligible quarterbacks were of the caliber of a recent standout.
“When you talk about quarterbacks being high picks, there’s no Andrew Luck in this draft,” Cosell said of the No. 1 overall pick of the 2012 draft by Indianapolis. “There’s no one who would even be in the same conversation.”
Just wanted to post this in the interests of keeping things fair and balanced!
February 13th, 2014 at 10:32 am
Jeagan1999:
Joe hopes to talk to Cosell next week.
February 13th, 2014 at 11:19 am
Everyone keep asking joe why he hates glennon so much
February 13th, 2014 at 11:52 am
Here is one for JOE!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/12/greg-cosell-sees-a-wide-variation-in-johnny-manziels-quality-of-play/
Looks like his man crush Manziels is inconsistent.
Unfortunately, as pointed out above, JOE bashes everyone who doesn’t agree with his Johnny Love as a Glennon Mobber. I would completely disagree. I want to upgrade the position, but I think there are many different ways. I think you could pick up Mettenberger late and let him recover and you would have a better option for the future than most of the QBs that will not even be available to the Bucs this year in the draft. And in no way would you trade away a boatload of picks for a QB this year that is a consensus not top ten pick, but will be drafted high due to bad teams out of necessity.
So going forward, you have no top flight QB available in FA, and no significant upgrade available in the draft. Lets look at the other options and move on from Fantasy world. We have serviceable QB, can find competition, and a potential developmental in Mettenberger. Focus on the DE position and WR early and we have the best situation to develop a QB.
February 13th, 2014 at 12:37 pm
Newsflash, FB – Joe has never stated Johnny Football is a can’t-miss, Andrew Luck kind of prospect. But Joe still wants to draft the guy and thinks he’ll be a strong NFL starter. Does Joe think Johnny is flawless and perfect after just turning 21 years old? Of course not.
February 13th, 2014 at 2:58 pm
@Ander – I just listened to the interview and was thinking the same thing. they’d barely taken a breath from slamming Glennon for people making excuses for why he wasn’t able to elevate the play of others, in his rookie year, and wasn’t lighting the world on fire before they started talking about how Bradford gets a pass because he didn’t have enough working around him. It’s pretty silly.
Might want to re-listen. Nobody gave Bradford a pass. The audio is there. –Joe
February 13th, 2014 at 4:56 pm
@Joe – Come on man. You guys were saying the same things about Bradford that we have said about Glennon.
February 13th, 2014 at 5:10 pm
@Joe – Relistened. Didn’t hear anything to dissuade me from my original statement. You guys were using the same excuses for Bradford as have been used for Glennon
February 13th, 2014 at 7:05 pm
Patrick:
Sam Bradford never ever had a receiver like Vincent Jackson playing with him much less Mike Williams. Not even close. Turrible comparison. But, if one is reaching to make Mike Glennon out to be Peyton Manning, well, Joe guesses reaching is what he should expect.
February 13th, 2014 at 7:57 pm
@Joe – I’ll give you that but he did have Stephen Jackson who would have at least made other teams respect the play action enough to make his receiving options look more capable than they actually were. My point was that there was no mention of any of that in your dialogue. It was simply that Bradford gets a mulligan because his line and receivers were bad which was right on the heels of saying that our rookie doesn’t get the same consideration
February 13th, 2014 at 8:10 pm
@samco
LOL – nice post my friend, if I’m fired I’m taking the real GM with me like Schiano!
I’m not a big lover of Manziel because he’s not a sure fire prospect but I just agree that we should raise the bar again.