“The Schiano Watch”
December 24th, 2013Right now Sunday’s clash with the Saints at the Superdome is secondary to Bucs fans. Turn on sports radio or read comments here and you will see fans are clearly looking to the future, very much past Sunday.
Already Bucs fans are giddy about the draft, some five long months away. And, of course, the job status of Bucs commander Greg Schiano is on Bucs fans’ minds.
So too is Schiano on the mind of Pat Yasinskas of ESPN. He believes Sunday’s outcome will likely determine the fate of Schiano.
The Schiano Watch. After trending upward briefly, coach Greg Schiano has lost his past two games. His team is 4-11. If Schiano closes out the season by losing his final three games, it’s hard to imagine the Bucs keeping him around.
A loss to the Saints would also mean a fourth loss in the final five games.
Look, Joe does not know for a matter of fact if Schiano will or will not be back for certain. The tea leaves seem to suggest he will return. That’s not an absolute.
If someone would put a gun to Joe’s head (and Joe is sure many would love to do just that), Joe would bet Schiano returns.
But Joe wouldn’t bet more than $5 on that line.
December 24th, 2013 at 6:12 pm
Well, duh.
You usually find out if a coach is fored after the final game of the season. Big stretch, Pat.
December 24th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
I have one Christmas wish this final game…for GMC to get one more sack to reach double digits.
December 24th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
The problem with being a Bucs fan is always having to look to the future because the present is so bad. If Schiano is still employed after Monday. It is going to bleak for Buc fans.
December 24th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
5 bucks?! I had 5 bucks riding on the Jags getting a first down with MJD yesterday …. and yeah, I paid up….
Joe is supposed to be the end all be all… I was hoping for more than tea leaves here, Joe is supposed be where we go to know. Tea leaves is for Channel 8 Sporta extra, Joe puts the ice in the tub after the game, the Joe’s paid 100K at Acution for Buc-o-Bruce’s eye patch hoping it would have information.
My cousin Billy who plays left guard for his PeeWee team has a stronger opinion on Shiano’s future!
Take a page from Peter Popcorn-eating-King and give us clarity, of course we’ll accept “sources” as the basis for your statements….
I don’t drink tea, I drink Jack and Coke and I’m looking for proclamations.
December 24th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
Patience Grasshopperz…..
December 24th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
I have one wish: for the saints to blow us out and dominik, schiano and co to be relieved of their duties.
December 24th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I want wins and will never wish my team to lose.
December 24th, 2013 at 7:01 pm
y Rogers and Dale Evans used to sing a special song of every show that aired. This one is for Greg Schiano. Happy Trails to you, don’t… let… the door hit you in the arse again.
December 24th, 2013 at 7:03 pm
Keep Smith and Byner. Everyone else should be cleaned out.
December 24th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
How much would Joe bet on the bucs defeating the Saints?
December 24th, 2013 at 7:30 pm
I really really want Schiano to go. I have absolutely zero confidence that we will ever be a winning team as long as he is our coach. However, I have never, and will never, cheer for us to lose a game. I am completely aware that makes no sense, but I just can’t cheer against us.
December 24th, 2013 at 7:43 pm
@ Hawaiian Buc
From the very first Preseason game @ the LA Rams in 1976…I have never…ever…hoped, cheered, wished or had even a faint feeling that I wanted the Bucs to lose. That thought is not in my DNA.
Even if it cost us a draft position and saved a Coachs’ job…I not only want the Bucs to win….I want them to dominate and humiliate the other team….and especially if it is a division opponent or the Cowgirls.
December 24th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
We will know by Monday what Schiano’s fate is. I can wait! Until then, I’m going to watch a lot college bowl games and enjoy the holidays. Whatever the decision is, I will live with it, but I hope we get a better coach and that could be very well be Schiano. More of the same is absolutely unacceptable!
December 24th, 2013 at 7:58 pm
Oh I want Wins. I just don’t see this one happening.
December 24th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
5 DAYS AND COUNTING
December 24th, 2013 at 8:19 pm
Fire Schiano, then bring in Ken Whisenhunt as Head Coach and let him bring Free Agent to be Philip Rivers with him. Playoffs next year
December 24th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
@ Chris
“I have one wish: for the saints to blow us out and dominik, schiano and co to be relieved of their duties.”
“Oh I want Wins. I just don’t see this one happening”
You don’t see it happening or you don’t want it to happen?
Which is it….you can’t have it both ways…
December 24th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
I don’t see it happening. But the upside to losing this game is we replace this regime of bad drafting and horrid coaching.
December 24th, 2013 at 9:01 pm
The Bucs are now LAST in the NFC in points scored but Schiano has insisted in the media this week that his offensive system is very good and is successful in the NFL. He just doesn’t get it and as long as he is the Head Coach the Bucs will never be any better than mediocre. Great players can be signed in Free Agency and the best young players be drafted. But without proper coaching and good play systems they will still not win on the field. Personally I like Schiano. I just don’t think that he knows how to win in the NFL. And 4-11 backs that up
December 24th, 2013 at 9:11 pm
I’ll take a loss as a significantly less evil than Schiano staying.
Plus it helps draft position.
Go Saints.
December 24th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
I am done with the bucs if this staff is not let go I don’t have another year in me
December 24th, 2013 at 10:13 pm
and ive been diehard since 76 have seen it all there are 2 other fl teams on the rise
December 24th, 2013 at 10:33 pm
I’ll never cheer against my Bucs. No matter if a win saves Greg’s job. Fact… The Bucs are talented but with the ultra conservative regime we are enduring, we are not going to win 11games next year. Greg is content to try and stay within 1 or 2 scores and discuss how examining the film will enable him to “get things corrected” and “turn this thing around”. We do not have a “go for the throat ” spirit on offense that playoff bound teams seem to have and instead commit penalty after penalty as we hold illegally, jump offsides, illegally hit people leading with the helmet etc etc. leading the league in penalties is the sign of a horrificly unprepared team with no discipline. That is coaching. If Greg was forced to start the season with Gosh due to the Glazers and or Dominik not wanting to admit they missed big on their “franchise qb”, then fire Dominik and the offensive coordinator and give Greg one more year. Freeman was never and will never be a franchise qb and I believe he screwed our team and season royally with his shannanigans. If Greg stays, our new GM must obtain a franchise type qb like Johnny who is a playmaker whether you like him or not . Glennon is not a playmaker and will be a capable backup. Greg needs to turn the offense loose to win, we just need to buy the best free agent and/or draft a franchise qb to improve our playmaking chances. This putrid offense should cost jobs, maybe all of the coaching staff’s. Go Bucs!
December 24th, 2013 at 10:45 pm
The Bucs were putrid last week, but I think they will have a big game in NOLA. They have the incentive of bouncing the Saints out of the playoffs and I think they will. Odds are that Brees puts up 5 TD’s and the Bucs Oline will stay in Tampa.
Bucs 24 – Saints 23 lol
December 24th, 2013 at 10:47 pm
How bout them Lightning?
Go Bolts!!!
December 24th, 2013 at 10:47 pm
Not a penny.
December 24th, 2013 at 11:19 pm
Schiano won’t get us to the SB, he’s a NFL coach wanna be. Cut the loss and move on.
December 25th, 2013 at 4:07 am
just let schiano go…the team has a lot of talent and budding talent…bring in a vet qb like rivers, or even mallet from new england…the team is built to win soon…so a quality coach with an experienced qb will hopefully set things straight…we need to revamp the ol a bit too…there are obvious problems of players falling off on the line- including penn…we could have a break out season next year with jay gruden running the show and a good dc…this just needs to be pulled together at the boot straps with a few player additions…a solid 3rd receiver ,ol help, a line backer, and outside pass rusher, and not jay cutler…if the glazers will listen to adam things will be ok…we are an x-factor team that needs a quick shift and a few upgrades…not a rookie qb to hopefully develop…we have developed glennon as a solid back up…now lets add an experienced leader at qb and someone to replace bowers at de – gholsten looks like a player too…thingss look bright actually if the glazers follow the blue print…we can flip this thing around quicker than you think and be a double digit win team next year if things are handled on the up and up with wise moves and tweaking….the coach has to go…i wouldn’t mind keeping dominik stay though…we shall see…obviously freebird has some kind of drug issue being kept under wraps…look at all the weight he has dropped the past couple of years as his play has disintegrated….adam from ny
ps a loss on sunday is fine and should be expected…revis will be on cruise control just to keep that knee in repair mode for next season, etc….
December 25th, 2013 at 8:58 am
If Dominick is cut loose, how many teams will line up for his services?
It’s time to clean house. We went from Gruden, a winning coach with a locker room problem, to Rah, Mr. Congeniality without a clue who lost the locker room, to a toes on the line coach, who changed the culture but couldn’t win.
There are two common denominators……..Lack of wins and Mark Dominick.
These are desperate times and call for drastic action. We don’t need tweeling, we need a radical change and NOW not 3 years down the road. Clean house NOW!