Vincent Jackson: Best Bucs Receiver
December 21st, 2013
V-Jax is on the cusp of history
Yes, the Bucs offense is last in the NFL. Yes, the Bucs offense has hit a rut in a string of playing physical defenses. Yes, the Bucs struggle in the passing game now that it appears there is a book out on rookie quarterback Mike Glennon.
So it comes with a bit of surprise that, combining the Rip Van Freeman struggles to start the season, Vincent Jackson’s rash of dropsies earlier in the season, and the recent struggles of Glennon, that Jackson is on the cusp of Bucs history.
Jackson needs one more touchdown catch in the next two games to have consecutive seasons of no less than eight touchdown receptons.
No other Bucs receiver has done that.
“For me again, I’ve never been a stats guy,” Jackson said. “I’ve been fortunate enough to have solid numbers, but being a starting receiver in this league you’re expected at some point to produce at a certain level. I just really believe in this system. I just think if I do my job, I trust our coaches they’re going to put me in position to be successful – Just always having the same mentality. Each and every year that I come in training camp with a beginner’s mentality; I can learn more, I can get better, I can improve on my craft, and I continue to work on that each and every week.”
If you think the Bucs offense stinks now, imagine how Father Dungy-like awful they would be without Jackson.
Damn that Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik!
December 21st, 2013 at 9:12 am
Without Jackson, this year’s receiving group would be like the end of ast year’s cornerback lineup; hopeless.
December 21st, 2013 at 9:36 am
Dominik might not be perfect but I sure love the following players:
Martin, Rainey, Lorig, James, Jackson, Williams, Wright, Meredith, McCoy, Revis, David, Goldson, Gholston, Barron, David, Foster, Clayborn, Banks, Spence, Koenen
And don’t forget:
Bennett, Blount
If he is here next year he will probably get a stud 3rd receiver.
Go Bucs!
December 21st, 2013 at 9:51 am
Judging from that list, it is quite an accomplishment to lose 10+ games. I guess that is what happens when you don’t have a established, non-Freeman quarterback.
December 21st, 2013 at 10:05 am
Joe first of all. Any GM could have thrown the type of money that they gave Vjax and he would have taken it. How hard was that for the rock star?
2nd of all. The Bucs have historically sucked on offense period. That’s just their history. As far as franchise offensive records being broken and set by players. Big whoop the bar is set low to begin with anyways.
3rd of all. Freeman broke franchise records too. It’s not that hard to do on offense.
4th of all. I’ve lived in San Diego and I feel bad for Vjax having to go from that city of beauty to the shyte hole we call Tampa. It’s a heaven and hell comparison.
December 21st, 2013 at 10:14 am
You can’t say that we actually had a top 20 offense last year 9th to b precise but someone sold the notion that Glennon gives us a better chance to win this year.freeman did himself no favors but I seriously doubt Glennon is the best option. He had the same wr problems Glennon had cuz olgltree was the king of drop so was v jax early n the year with no tight end cuz Wright was established and the o line was getting whipped now we actually start producing a running game an lose 1 wr and for some reason Glennon doesn’t have this or that the excuses are endless . Get us a QB who can make it happen and carry the team when need b we have a defense that can carry us when we need to but everyone has off days so we need that balance …Ryan Mallet an the world is our oyster
December 21st, 2013 at 10:14 am
Top 10 ^
December 21st, 2013 at 10:28 am
BucFanForever …Gruden lost 11 games in 2004 with QB Johnson-Griese, Pittman-Alstott-Graham, Galloway, Clayton, Jurevicius, Grammatica, Brooks, Barber, Quarles, and Simeon Rice.
His offense was ranked 23rd in the NFL. His defense led by Kiffin was ranked 9th.
December 21st, 2013 at 10:34 am
@ laughingstock
Don’t forget Dotson & Barth
December 21st, 2013 at 10:35 am
Wow. Eight TD’s two years in row? I love me some Vincent Jackson but that is probably the most depressing team record to accomplish at this point in the NFL.
December 21st, 2013 at 10:38 am
@ BucNasty
I don’t think Glennon gave us the best chance to win….but even you wouldn’t have continued with Freeman the way he was acting….he was benched like many QBs are when they aren’t performlng….but he didin’t act like a pro and take his medicine…he refused to accept a backup role.
I think it was time to get Glennon experience going forward…although, I thought he was brought in one game too early…AZ…..should have been brought in after the bye.
December 21st, 2013 at 10:57 am
Like I said he did himself no favors but I truly believe it was a penis swinging match. Freeman and sully or free and Schiano whoever wanna tell it just had a 9th ranked successful offense I think the hc changed the scheme to fit the style of play he likes which is ball control to turnovers no risky chances with hella check downs and eating it. That not how free plays and it hindered him Imo like outing shackles on a QB then only running a few predictable routes that take timing and anticipation.an that led to the horrific start to this year. Had schiano eve loved his scheme to continue to allow for easier throws on rollout or moving the pocket we’d b thriving and om our way to the playoffs but our hc doesn’t care about winning he wants to win his way an that’s alil bs and arrogant if u ask me when u clearly have something proven that works y take the chance on changing it for something that may or may not work if all goes according to plan lmao same reason y he doesn’t wanna run no huddle when it’s the only thing that works. Because it’s not his way he practices??? Wow just wow its take a certain kinda a – hole to even think they have the opportunity to waste everyone’s time and career to let u have a short man complex and wanna control everything down to how much water ppl are allowed to intake per hour OMG black Monday can’t get here fast enough
December 21st, 2013 at 10:59 am
Evolved his scheme ^
December 21st, 2013 at 11:17 am
@ Nasty
You may be right….time will tell…meanwhile, I like the players in development….If Schiano fails, he will leave the next coach with a bunch of good players & high draft picks….because if this continues, he won’t survive beyond 14.
December 21st, 2013 at 11:29 am
“I just really believe in this system. ” -Vincent Jackson
It seems to me Jackson likes and believes in this offensive system. Seeing how he might be the only one that believes in it, I smell BS.
December 21st, 2013 at 11:30 am
tbbf….we might see a mid season firing next season.
December 21st, 2013 at 11:39 am
Jackson is a “Company Man”……I think the system can work…but it needs a very strong O-line, & a 3rd WR…
Right now we don’t even have a 2nd WR….
December 21st, 2013 at 11:56 am
Tbbf we shall see my question to u guys is do u honestly believe we’ll produce anything better then this year? Me I doubt it if so do u think it’ll b better then the 7-9 year? I doubt it so what’s the point? I say only if he shows potential for next year and he hasn’t an I think 3 more loses prove that. Please don’t subject me to that again this year was over for me n week 5 don’t do that to me consecutive years I can’t b draft watching n October that’s not football fellas
December 21st, 2013 at 12:17 pm
I’m still torn with Schiano. Short sided, I don’t want to go through this kind of season again, so I want a new coach. I really like Schiano six days a week. Just not Sundays. But long term, I think one more year of him helping Dom find the talent, should leave this team sitting pretty in 2015. I definitely don’t want Dom to be around without Schiano. I really believe Schiano is the reason for the good drafts and Dom has very little to do with it.
So to answer your question BucNasty. With Schiano, I don’t think it will be better next year, but will it be worth it in the long run? Maybe.
December 21st, 2013 at 12:27 pm
@Chef Paul
So….it’s possible that Schiano is covering Dominick’s failures….and, in a way, Schiano is building a team for someone else in 15…..very well could be the case.
December 21st, 2013 at 12:40 pm
TBBF,
“Schiano is building a team for someone else in 15”
LOL I never thought of it in those words, but yeah, he could be.
Wouldn’t be funny if 5 years form now, we looked back and thought, “You know, Schiano was the best thing to ever happen to this franchise.”
It’s a long shot but maybe, just maybe.
I think these college coaches can find really good talent their first few years in the league, because they have been scouting these guys since they were in high school. So they know them better than the guys who have been in the pros for a while. For example Pete Carrol and Jim Harbaugh have had pretty good drafts too since coming into the league. The Seahawks have found really good talent late in the draft since Carrol got there. And dare I say, so have the Bucs since Schiano got here.
December 21st, 2013 at 12:46 pm
Like I said he did himself no favors but I truly believe it was a penis swinging match. Freeman and sully or free and Schiano whoever wanna tell it just had a 9th ranked successful offense I think the hc changed the scheme to fit the style of play he likes which is ball control to turnovers no risky chances with hella check downs and eating it. That not how free plays and it hindered him Imo like outing shackles on a QB then only running a few predictable routes that take timing and anticipation.an that led to the horrific start to this year. Had schiano eve loved his scheme to continue to allow for easier throws on rollout or moving the pocket we’d b thriving and om our way to the playoffs but our hc doesn’t care about winning he wants to win his way an that’s alil bs and arrogant if u ask me when u clearly have something proven that works y take the chance on changing it for something that may or may not work if all goes according to plan lmao same reason y he doesn’t wanna run no huddle when it’s the only thing that works. Because it’s not his way he practices???
@Bucnasty…. I’m right with you!
@TBBF Absolutely Dotson & Barth
I’m ready for a new mentality when it comes to coaching. We can get a new coaching staff that can take us deep in the playoffs with a few more players through the draft and free agency.
December 21st, 2013 at 12:52 pm
I would recommend VJ getting his eyes checked. He doesn’t seem to catch the ball with his hands so he catches it against his body.
With a good set of specs, and a rookie QB from Georgia, he might catch 16 TD’s a year
December 21st, 2013 at 12:59 pm
What a pointless post Joe. (Sorry, but Joe typically finds new Bucs records interesting.–Joe)
A full season with Josh Freeman last year for him 1400 yards and pro bowl status again, he would have already that that touchdown record I’d he didn’t get caught from behind so much…..that’s a useless start because all it says is we don’t draft well at the receiver position and there’s a revolving door of free agents coming in. 8+ touchdowns with Freeman and they weren’t close your eyes pray to god passes either. In a dink and dunk offense his catches and touchdowns should be much higher but they hardly use his height in the Redzone
December 21st, 2013 at 1:25 pm
8+ touchdowns with Freeman and they weren’t close your eyes pray to god passes either.
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LMAO yea because Freeman threw the most perfect passes. Man you just love riding that guys jock dont ya?
December 21st, 2013 at 4:58 pm
Joe,
Dominick let 9.5 sacks walk in Free Agency for only 4.7m this year.
We haven’t had a 10 sack guy since 2005, Simeon Rice.
Hail to the Rock Star! Hail to the playoffs! Hail to the 18m in cap space that went unused to obtain a DE, CB, TE, etc… Hail, hail, hail…
December 21st, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Topics-Bucs,Freeman,Schiano,Dom,Glazers,MRSA,Sully,Sheridan.
I believe that the problems with Freeman began sometime in the second half of the 2012 season and whatever those problems were led to Freeman having those consecutive losses at the end of the season and caused him to have those back to back 4 interception games. Think Schiano had something to do with it too. Then Schiano ended season at his post-season press conference saying that we need more competition at the QB position after we just had our very first 4,000 yard passer in Bucs history and had 9th ranked offense in league and came with in 7 points of beating the Peyton Manning led Broncos. That was the first of many dumb things he would go on to say at press conferences. Then after that we then had speculation and national media attention wondering whats wrong with the Bucs and Josh Freeman and then went on from Jan 2013 all the way into the 2013 regular season. That was the stupidest way to began the 2013 off season and then Freeman had all those stories come out after about not showing up to the kids camp and other things. Then the 2013 pre-season came and he barely let any of the starters play then says the starters will be ready come the reg season and it turns out they definitely weren’t ready lol. I wish the Glazers would fire Schiano now or even on Black Monday but rumors and word going around is there not. So were stuck with this guy for the 2014 season and it looks right now like it may be another one of the worst seasons in Bucs history because we will end up firing Schiano at end of next season because we are not going to playoffs with this guy I promise you. He is too arrogant and he takes too long learn from his coaching mistakes. I mean it took him half the season to learn how to adjust his scheme to the personel we have. I think the Glazers are absolutely nuts to keep this coach and I don’t for a second think its because they like him, what if and this is just speculation what if Schiano has something on the Glazers like Black mail kinda something. Maybe something that has to do with the MRSA and how the Buccaneers ownership and GM mishandled the MRSA situation. You know if Nicks and Tynes can’t come back they are going to sue the Buccaneers ownership and that could get expensive and ugly Natitional media attention it will bring…. The Bucs need to fire Schiano and Bring in Lovie Smtih with a good offensive coordinator and pull Monte kiffin and Rod Marinelli from Dallas and bring back either Joe Marciano or Rich Bisaccia to coach Special Teams Keep Dominik and bring back the REAL BUCS BALL!. just imagine what Monte,Lovie, and Rod could do with Revis,McCoy,David,Foster,Gholdson,Barron,Banks and I believe Rod Marinelli could make Clayborn and Bowers into Better players they just need better coaching. Hardy Nickerson is looking for an NFL coaching position he use to coach under Lovie why not get him in here as next seasons Linebackers Coach that would be awesome! As far as our quarterback question for next season Glennon is a good back-up I suspect that BEN ROTHLISBERGER may be available for trade this off-season. Or I kinda like how Kirk Cousins is looking and if the Bucs don’t go for Lovie then I’d be ok with them hiring Mike Shannhan if he becomes available. Anyway unfortunately were not going to get a new head coach this off season because were stuck with Schiano and Glennon will go into next season as the starter. Oh next season is going to be just as crazy as this one has been I wonder what stupid thing Schiano will say at this post-season press conference. Oh and I hope all you like Rutgers style football cause its only gonna get worse cause John Mcnulty will be promoted to the Bucs new offensive Cordinator lol God Help us!
December 21st, 2013 at 7:24 pm
bucs are just bad and they will be bad next year and things will only improve if we as fans do not spend money to see this crap so I hope all you guys that want a championship are young because its going to be awhile mark my words
December 21st, 2013 at 11:25 pm
Not sure how you missed the 85 or so stories Joe has written about that subject.
December 22nd, 2013 at 8:52 am
V-Jax needs help next year. Sammy Watkins would help a lot!