Schiano Embraces Angry Fans
December 18th, 2013
Schiano responds
There’s no greater off-the-field NFL theater than a head coach taking unfiltered calls from fans on live radio.
Unfortunately, Chucky had no interest in talking to the masses, but Tony Dungy, Raheem Morris and Greg Schiano embraced the madness. Schiano’s taken real darts over the past couple of years (along with plenty of love), and a sharp one was fired at him Monday on WDAE-AM 620.
Schiano is a head coach for all Bucs fans, not just those in his corner. Frustrated fan caller “Mike” spouted off and set up the head coach to proclaim his understanding.
” … I just don’t think you have it. You know, you know after the year comes I’m pretty sure you’ll get it,” caller Mike said. “But right now, hey, as Bucs fans we’re tired of being disappointed, tired of losing, tired of paying money, concession stand fees and all this to watch a team look this bad. The report was this team was pretty good. But I believe the coaching is horrible. I think you just need to give it up, man.”
Schiano responded calmly and respectfully.
“I guess he just wanted to state his opinion. And that’s the beauty of our country. Everybody has the freedom to state their opinion. That’s why I come on the show. You know people say [I’m contractually obligated to do the show]. Trust me, if we didn’t want to do the show, we’d find a way not to do the show. But I think it’s important that the fans know that I hear their frustration. And just like Mike [the caller], you know obviously he’s frustrated as we are,” Schiano said.
“We know there’s been some opportunities that we kind of let slide. There’s also been a lot of things that have happened this year that have, you know, been tough to deal with, and I think our guys have done an incredible job of sticking together, not pointing fingers, fighting through it, coaches and player alike, and I’m very, very encouraged by the direction of our club and where we’re headed and the people that we’re headed there with. Hopefully Mike, and people that are feeling that way can hang in there just a little longer because it’s coming. And believe me, it’ll be worth the wait.”
Also during the show, a fan called in to ask Schiano’s forgiveness for verbally tearing him up after the Bucs loss to the 49ers. Schiano told the guy it was no problem, heat-of-the-moment stuff that’s understandable.
Now Joe’s not slobbering over Schiano here. Pay Joe $3 million a year like Schiano, and Joe would be happy to talk with a few haters once a week. (Joe does that daily for far less.) But Schiano’s willingness to be accountable publicly and maintain his consistent message throughout this ugly season has been admirable.
That steadiness is something Team Glazer can count on, a factor that could help Schiano earn their priestly blessing for 2014.
December 18th, 2013 at 11:10 am
Aswe steadly go through another losing season in 2014…All of this is well and good, but if they canot win a freaking game who really cares.
December 18th, 2013 at 11:12 am
just think if Cleveland kept Billichek.
December 18th, 2013 at 11:16 am
Interesting, I wonder why MOST of the SUPERBOWL WINNING coaches over the past 50yrs. Did feel the need to speak with fans over the air waves. Oo Well no biggie I guess.
December 18th, 2013 at 11:17 am
His response is really his only option. There is nothing extraordinary here. He is a well spoken guy who seems to prefer a short communication model. He delivers sound bytes well and holds to the party line. Given the way the team is performing but more concerning(ly)(?), how bad the gameplans have been, the team is faced with a real dilemma. While I would like to see a change at the top level, I do not believe that will happen. I agree with many of the local pundits that bloodletting will occur at the coordinator level. I hope he will listen to the new coordinators assuming they are far better than our current batch. It seems odd to me that a Coach that controls so many things would be divorced from the game plan and play calling to a degree that the coordinators are really the issue here.
December 18th, 2013 at 11:18 am
Excuse me…DIDN’T FEEL THE NEED TO
December 18th, 2013 at 11:19 am
Schiano responded by basically saying nothing.
Great coaches adapt scheme to players.
Great coaches can steal a win if the team isn’t up to par on occasion.
Great coaches aren’t stubborn in their philosophy.
Great coaches recognize strengths and use them.
We’re loaded with talent and I understand we have a lot of guys on IR…
..BUT…
We only have 4 wins.
FOUR – against bottom tier teams.
December 18th, 2013 at 11:31 am
How the Bucs owners could even consider keeping a coach that does not win games is beyond me. Stop accepting mediocrity Buc fans. We deserve better than 4 wins in year two under Schiano. We regressed and I’m pissed about it! You should be too. Been a fan for 34 years of the Bucs and have never been madder watching a team be out coached, outplayed, outwitted, out game planned etc as much as this under achieving , undisciplined team. New proven NFL coach required! Go Bucs!
December 18th, 2013 at 11:31 am
I know folks get tired of hearing this, but Gruden won with less. He’s been setting there up in a booth for a couple of years now. Watching game after game from an heavenly eye’s view. Can’t imagine how his mental approach to the game has changed, from that prospect.
December 18th, 2013 at 11:38 am
Yep, ain’t nothing special at all. Age old strategy, used to appeal to the common folk.
December 18th, 2013 at 11:48 am
I don’t know whether Schiano is the answer either. I admire his ability to keep the team together after all the garbage that went on at the beginning of the season, but I’m still trying to sort through how much is this is the coordinators fault and how much is Schiano’s fault. I know with Sullivan just the game plan itself is very vanilla. there is no creativity with the X’s and O’s. we definitely need a new offensive coordinator. I have a feeling Schiano will be given another year. If we don’t win next year we’ll start over.
December 18th, 2013 at 11:50 am
Stop with the “loaded with talent” & 8 Probowlers….
Our talent is on IR….Barth, MW19, Martin, Crabtree (maybe no talent)
Nicks not on IR (should be)
Joseph & Penn (has-been not performing)
Revis 80%
Rookie 3rd Rd. QB
AC & Bowers (talent?)
All pre-season there were constant complaints about our lack of depth…..now it is showing….we are playing with a bunch of undrafted FAs & rookies.
Where is all this talent?
December 18th, 2013 at 11:58 am
Hopefully we do sign him on for another year. That way we can suck it up in 2014 and be in position to draft Jameis Winston. I’m cool with that.
December 18th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
Josh,
No, not with our luck. We would luck out and win 4 again and pick 6th. Our bad luck has never been more obvious than losing coin-flips to the Lions… the difference between Calvin Johnson… and Gaines Adams…UGH!
December 18th, 2013 at 12:17 pm
Did people actually expect the Bucs to beat the 9ers. The crazy thing is they did have a chance in the 4th quarter. The simple fact is that this defense can not contain mobile QBs this year. They could last year because of Bennett. Also, Glennon needs more capable targets before the coaching staff will have confidence to open things up. If anyone is to blame, then it would be Dominick from all those bad years of drafting and then pushing those bad picks on Schiano (like Bowers and Freeman). Without Schiano, do you really think Dominick and his terrible track record are responsible for the last couple of draft classes? Without Schiano, do you really think players like GMC, Lovonte David, Foster, Spence, Barron, Banks and William Gholston develop into a great or good NFL players? People need to wake up and realize where this team was and where it is going now that Schiano has the pulse of the team.
December 18th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
If you check his Rutger’s record, his 2nd year was twice as bad as his 1st. I had figured 2-14 since he couldn’t schedule Army, Air Force or Navy.
He won’t even sniff .500 for another two years,, so let’s settle in for 11 long, miserable years of mind numbing mediocrity and promises like “I’m very, very encouraged by the direction of our club and where we’re headed and the people that we’re headed there with. Hopefully Mike, and people that are feeling that way can hang in there just a little longer because it’s coming. And believe me, it’ll be worth the wait.”
December 18th, 2013 at 12:38 pm
Rob says:
“Been a fan for 34 years of the Bucs and have never been madder watching a team be out coached, outplayed, outwitted, out game planned etc as much as this under achieving , undisciplined team.”
Hey Rob…stop lying.
December 18th, 2013 at 12:39 pm
I ask again….where was all that talent…especially on Offense against SF…..we handed it over & over to the defense with poor field position……tell me about the talent,,,
Was it Wright….undrafted, undersized….in development…..OK, I guess that’s it…..and Jackson.
Where is the rest?
December 18th, 2013 at 12:40 pm
The talent is on the sidelines dancing during the break. As we learned thru the Redskins, you can buy talent on paper. But it takes a good system and quality coaches to express that talent ont eh field. Forget about how each player ranks. Players perform to the level the coaches exude from them.
Our coaches are still learning the ropes from college to NFL. We cannot continue to be a learning experiment for coaches. Our time is limited and talent is aging. We need experience now.
I pray Shanahan breaks free of the Skins.
December 18th, 2013 at 12:40 pm
Russell Shepard was put on IR? WTF they barely used him.
December 18th, 2013 at 12:43 pm
I dont know why people think Wright is so great. He’s had a couple of good games but has been invisible the majority of the season. A legit weapon he is not at this time.
December 18th, 2013 at 12:49 pm
To Buc1987, you are clueless bro. I have my faded Buc stuff from 30 plus years ago and for your uninformed opinion, I’ve either listened to, watched, or been at every Buc game since 1980. Bite me if you think I’m lying. I’ve been through McKay, Bennett, Perkins, Wyche, Williamson, Dungy, Morris and now Schiano. Who the he!! Are you to question my Buc fan tenure. Shut the Buc up! Go Bucs!
December 18th, 2013 at 12:52 pm
Yeah Rob….please. If you think this is the worst the Bucs have ever had you are definitely forgetting the ‘formative years’ that were the ‘Yucs’. At least this team still has me watching the game in the 4th quarter.
December 18th, 2013 at 1:00 pm
We did not have the talent during the double digit loss seasons that we have now. So please stop acting like this team should be happy or content with 4 wins and being “in games” in the 4th quarter. You make my point about this team being an underachiever with enough talent to at least win half their games. Please!
December 18th, 2013 at 1:19 pm
“just think if Cleveland kept Billichek.”
If Belichick hadn’t stumbled into having Tom Brady as his QB no one would think of him like they do. Bledsoe would have continued to suck and eventually the team would have lost patience with him eventually. Belichick is smart enough to know that his legacy is in large part due to Brady’s ability to win with scrubs, cast offs, and no running game (see this year). I’m convinced that when Brady retires, so does Belichick.
December 18th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
Oh, hell yes…its been worse….but the problem now is with unmet expectations….we were so bad in 76-77 that we lost almost all expectations….were happy to score anything and not to get shut out….then NFC Chanpionship in 1979 at the Sombrero.
That is when one of the two QBs, Doug Williams couldn’t deliver with a great defense.
“Shaun King, one of two Buc Quarterbacks that lost a NFC Championship Game when his defense gave up 11 or fewer points.”
December 18th, 2013 at 1:34 pm
“BucfaninMi Says:
December 18th, 2013 at 11:12 am
just think if Cleveland kept Bilichek.”
This argument is driving me nuts.
First of all the franchise that fired Bill Belichick was the Ravens, not the Browns. Since they fired him they have won two SuperBowls.
There is no real comparison between Schiano and Belichick. Belichick spent 15 years as a successful NFL assistant before getting the Cleveland job. When he did he developed the team to improve each of the first three seasons. He never appeared outmatched as a coach, the team may have been deficient in talent but losses were never attributed to his lack of coaching skill or knowledge. In his third year the team made the playoffs. His fourth year was the year that Modell announced his move to Baltimore, the team finished 5-11 after a 3-1 start, and Belichick was fired.
Schiano is not from the Belichick (or Parcells) coaching tree. The relationship between the coaches stems from the fact that Schiano gave Belichicks son a chance to play at a D-1 school. That’s it. He’s never coached under or with him. There is no evidence that Schiano will improve in the future. Belichick had shown his coaching ability, and was a victim of circumstance in the Browns to Baltimore debacle created by Modell.
December 18th, 2013 at 1:44 pm
Our defense is wild, fast, and fierce!
Schiano is a pitbull!
I love how our D is playin!
Can anybody deny that our D is playing with 20x the effort of Raheems last game as head coach? Atlanta put up 40 before halftime!
Deion Sanders called our team “quitters” against Houston!
Our team is playing hard!
Cant u morons see that???
December 18th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
Teacher…I can respect that if it euqated into wins. Wins are what we need, not great effort! The defense is not consistant either, and saying things are better becasue they look better than Rah’s defense did is mmot since the record remains the same. We have a middle of the road defense with a crap offense, if that is what the standard has been driopped to than Shiano is the guy for the job.
Rob, I have been a fan since the beginning. maybe becasue I was young in the early years I was not as mad about the team as this year, but I agree with you 100%.
December 18th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
What’s with the freaking adds popping up in the middle of the story?
Comm on man !
December 18th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
So sad…..the coach is supposed to be invisible not get more attention than the players good or bad. The fact that were talking about what can save his job is all the ammunition you need to fire him…he’s no Ron Rivera a man who earned his strips in the nfl. This team is too talented, if we keep the guy and midway through next year were talking about when should he get fired again well that’s one more off-season wasted….great players have a shelf life why should veterans continue waiting for their damn head coach to develop a NFL Brain
December 18th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
Rob…I’m not questioning your fandom. I’m actually questioning your memory. I’ve seen far worse Buc teams in the 26 years I’ve been a fan. Most recently Raheem the dream’s 2011.
All of this losing sucks right now, but it’s not like we have not been through all this crap before. Part of the reason why I’M not so angry like some of these posters on JBF.
Things WILL get better, I’ll wait and then I’ll wait some more if I have to. 2 years for a coach is not enough IMO.
December 18th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
buc4LYFE…have you got your new team to root for decided yet? Because I think Greg’s coming back in 2014.
Maybe go with saints4lyfe?
December 18th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
@teacherman77 our defense isn’t even top 15 with all of the talent.
December 18th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
@Bucs or Gtfo
Actually we’re 13th in team defense…
December 18th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
@teacher777
I saw alot of miss tackles, letting running quarterbacks escape the pocket lots of blown coverages and still no pass rush, he got rid of Michael Bennett and root Miller…..umm hello last time I checked the coach is responsible for offense and defense. Raheem Morris had Mike Williams as a #1 Maurice Stovall, can’t remember anyone else on offense. On defense we had drug addict tanard, sean Jones, cody grimm, not one single probowler on defense, Gerald McCoy season ending surgery two years in a row so if you don’t realize how pathetic you sound comparing those two rosters, one with an open checkbook and the other spent money for freakin Albert haynesworth. Youngest roster in the league, hey they didn’t know how to win, no veterans to speak….yet Raheem Morris still had a winning seasons…damn with the roster we have went would anyone expect them to quit or give up…..any other cream coach had this team Wes be leading this division….I tell you another thing….who else is dumb enough to send the smallest guy on the field on go routes, it’s Schiano fault Doug Martin is our for the season and he knows it was stupid because he wouldn’t do the same with demps
December 18th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
Nope no new team yet, I don’t even do fantasy football because I’d never choose a player in our division if their not a buc…football sucks when the bucs are a bad. Last year when everyone thought were a playoff team i didn’t and I got clowned for it, this year with a better team everyone wanted to blame Josh Freeman but he’s not here so why does our offense suck? The league has changed, it’s set up for offensive scoring, in training camp we were deepest at receiver so umm what happened. It’s embarrassing to not know who our only superbowl mvp is or getting eaten alive on nfl network by our own hall of famer
December 18th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
None of us really knows what is a fair assessment of Schiano’s coaching job this year. Me included. There are just so many things we do not know about. But making excuses for the reasonable amount of injuries is not ok – look at the Pats. We have only had about our fair share of injuries.
What I have a bigger problem with are the inconsistencies. Looking at some of the games where we did not rush the ball well, I just don’t understand what the problem is as compared to when we blow it up.
49ers avg rush yds allowed: 99.4/gm, 3.9avg – Bucs got 39yds, 3.3avg
Panthers avg rush yds allwd:85/gm, 3.9avg – Bucs got 66yds, 3.3 avg
Lions avg rush allowed 124/gm, 4.1avg – Bucs got 24yds, 0.9 avg
This is just one example of how inconsistent we are from week to week; and I put that on the coaching staff. If we have such a great run game the week before, like versus Buffalo (165yds, 4.6 avg), why cant we even perform close to the average of what the 49ers give up in total rush yards (99.4)? We got 140yds, 3.8avg, against a good “D” of the Dolphins. So WTF do we only get 24 TOTAL yds versus the Lions and not the 124yds they usually give up??? How do the players get their butts kicked vs the Panthers and say: “they gave us looks we did not prepare for”? I don’t get all the stupid personal fouls from a “disciplinarian” coach. I don’t understand why we let a good DE go in FA, and expected to rely on a guy (Bowers) we are barely playing now.
On the flip side, Schiano seems to be good at developing the rookies. And he has somehow managed to keep the locker room in his corner thru some very difficult times. But is that enough? I don’t think so.
December 18th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
Apparently 1987 and Bobby don’t understand what Rob is saying. I, on the other hand, can read and comprehend, so I understand exactly what he is saying. He’s not saying this is the worst team we’ve ever had, because clearly it isn’t. However, this is the worst we’ve ever performed in regards to the talent on the team. We’ve got the best DT in the game, best LB in the game, best corner in the game, and possibly the best safety tandem in the game, yet we are middle of the pack on defense. We are completely stubborn on both sides of the ball – refusing to make any adjustments – that includes in game, halftime, and game to game adjustments. No matter the opponent, we continue to do the exact same thing week after week. It’s a wonder we don’t find success! Then to top it all off, this “coach” tells us that we’re not going to do the ONLY thing that gave us success, because we don’t practice it?!?! Then he insults our intelligence even more by telling us it’s all going to be okay and it’s all going to be worth it. He even throws in the standard “I like the direction this team is headed”. How could you possibly like the direction we are headed? We are 4-10, and regressing miserably on offense. But it’s all going to be worth it, trust him.
December 18th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
Question. How good of a coach would schiano look if our QB was rivers, rodgers, luck, manning, brees, etc.
yeah, everyone is right that the coaching has been subpar and we all would rather see them approach offensive game planning differently cause we are losing and its boring.
But seriously, think about offensively, especially at QB, what he is working with. Freeman and Glennon. Is he this bad as a head coach or is the personel challange that big of a deal. Just something to think about.
December 18th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
next year will be even worse no playoffs and you can take that to the bank the panthers will be the class of south even the jags are on the right track this is the worst ive suffered as a buc fan and to say hang in there is a slap in the face these next 2 games will show you this team is not on the right track this offensive play calling wont win you any titles and I could do a better job with a backup qb at best and I will not buy seadon tickets ever again
December 18th, 2013 at 4:33 pm
I feel ripped off all the money my family spent to watch this rookie head coach and I even like the guy
December 18th, 2013 at 5:03 pm
Right on Hawaiin Buc
December 18th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
Okay hear ya go then clueless wonders.
Jon Gruden went 5-11 in 2004 and his team was still chocked full of talent. Much MORE than the Bucs have now.
Go ahead and look up the 2004 roster if you like. I’m not going to name all the “talent” on that team, but it WAS stocked.
Oh and let’s NOT forget about Gruden’s 4-12 2006 team either. It was not as stocked with as much talent as the 2004 team, but it was far more stocked then the current team we have now.
SHORT MEMORIES?
December 18th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
Please! Draft us some good Oline players, Ours are older and on IR or not playing like they have been capable in the past. It is hard to run or pass without much in the way of blocking the guys trying to get to you. Is it game plan, lack of a solid game plan, execution, lack of talent. I do not know. I do know I want to see better Oline play, last year coach Bostad did a great job, this year not so much. Is that from a let down going from college Oline play to NFL Oline play, maybe.
Go Bucs!
I am of the Keep Schiano crowd, I’m tired of the coaching carousel. (I am all for internal new hires and letting go of some current employees. But not a total overhaul.) I keep hearing we need to get a new head coach, a new GM a new QB and we are on the road to the playoffs. IT IS NOT THAT EASY! This is the NFL. Starting over every 3rd season is a prolonged recipe for bad teams. About the time the players have panned out from draft 1 of new regime, Coaching change. No consistency. No stability. No structure to commitment. This is how I see it.
December 18th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
I’m renewing my season tickets and I can’t wait.
December 18th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
Hey rob, bellichik won 11 games with Matt casell. Just saying.
December 18th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
@ chickster ” this is the worst ive suffered as a buc fan and to say hang in there is a slap in the face”
You should have been there for the 0-26 team. Well I hung in there with that team and it was not from being slapped in the face. It was from being a buc fan. We didn’t fire our coach, (no comparison) and next season we where in the NFC championship game with the LA Rams remember them?
Go Bucs!
December 18th, 2013 at 5:45 pm
@1987,
Ha ha ha ha ha! The 2004 team was stacked with talent! Michael Clayton was our leading receiver. That’s right, Michael “Blocking icon” Clayton. Need I even say more? Warren Sapp was gone (the true key to our defense). Brad Johnson was completely over the hill and was benched for the great Brian Griese. Alstott was done, as were Tim Brown and Charlie Garner (I actually forgot we even brought him in – what a colossal mistake). We were so old and washed up by then, i swear guys missed games due to frail bones. They didn’t even need mouthpieces, they could just take their dentures out. If you are going to talk about others having short memories, maybe you shouldn’t be so specific, because I remember 2004 and 2005. I watched every snap of those teams, and they weren’t even in the same ballpark talent wise as what we have now. It’s funny that you would even try to go there. I guess you were still in Boston cheering for the Patriots.
December 18th, 2013 at 6:05 pm
@1987,
My response to your post won’t show up, so I’ll respond simpler. So are you telling me Michael Clayton was better than Vincent Jackson? Are you telling me that Ronde Barber was better than Darelle Revis? Are you saying a 2004 Derrick Brooks was better than Lavonte David? I assume you believe Jermaine Phillips was better than Mark Barron or Dashon Goldson? And of course I’m sure you think Booger was better than McCoy, right? Can you even name one player on our OL in 2004? What a stupid stupid stupid argument.
December 18th, 2013 at 6:06 pm
Obviously 1987 was a huge fan of the Tim Brown and Charlie Garner era in Tampa.
December 18th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Hawaiian Buc….you certainly can find more players to list than that right?
December 18th, 2013 at 7:02 pm
@1987,
Why don’t you go ahead and do the honors. Where exactly do we match up better in 2004 than now? I would even say I’d take Glennon over Brian Griese.
December 18th, 2013 at 7:15 pm
Let’s see in 2004 the 5-11 Bucs. Brad Johnson started 4 games, just like Freeman. Then gave way to Griese, which gave way to Simms. Pittman was the starter at RB and finished with 900 plus yards.Alstott was still on the roster as well. Garner had 30 carries the whole season so he does not really count. Michael Clayton was the best WR they had with just under 1200 yards. Joe Jurevicius and Galloway certainly did not suck. The kicker was Martin.
Then there’s the defense. Derrick Brooks, Ronde Barber, Simeon Rice, Dwayne White (had a solid season) Greg Spires (had 8 sacks) Brian Kelly, and Shelton Quarles.
Let’s not forget they were coached by Jon Gruden who already won a Super Bowl, yet the team went 5-11.
Yes I do call that stocked with talent. The team should have finished with much MORE than 5 wins, but you can argue just to argue all you want like always Hawaiian Buc.
December 18th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
Well I just tried, but apparently the filter caught me for some BS reason. I guess you will have to wait for it to go through. Because I’m not trying to figure out what word it is. I guess try back in a few minutes or whenever someone catches it and posts the damn thing.
December 18th, 2013 at 7:19 pm
I’ll give it a go again. I think I found the word in question. Here goes.
December 18th, 2013 at 7:20 pm
Let’s see in 2004 the 5-11 Bucs. The Bull started 4 games, just like Freeman. Then gave way to Griese, which gave way to Simms. Pittman was the starter at RB and finished with 900 plus yards.Alstott was still on the roster as well. Garner had 30 carries the whole season so he does not not really count. Michael Clayton was the best WR they had with just under 1200 yards. Joe Jurevicius and Galloway certainly did not suck. The kicker was Martin.
Then there’s the defense. Derrick Brooks, Ronde Barber, Simeon Rice, Dwayne White (had a solid season) Greg Spires (had 8 sacks) Brian Kelly, and Shelton Quarles.
Let’s not forget they were coached by Jon Gruden(not a 2nd year coach) who already won a Super Bowl, yet the team went 5-11.
Yes I do call that stocked with talent. The team should have finished with much MORE than 5 wins, but you can argue just to argue like always Hawaiian Buc.
December 18th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
Simeon Rice had 16 sacks that season as well. So although he’s playing a different position he’s still on the DL. So yeah I would not have traded him out for McCoy at DT.
How come the team went 5-11? It MUST have been the coaching, because virtually everyone on the SB offense was still there outside of McCardell.
Hell Monte was still the DC.
Why did THIS team go 5-11?
December 18th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
I was at the game against Kansas City in 1979, the Bucs first win that put them into the playoffs, won 3-0, a fieldgoal by O’Donohue (sp) in the pouring rain. I was also at the Bucs first home win vs St.Louis Cardinals. Great wins. The Bucs fans were loud then. Tampa stadium allowed close views of players as you could walk around the field level seperated by a short wall between the players.
December 18th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
McBuc Says
“As we steadily go through another losing season in 2014…All of this is well and good, but if they cannot win a freaking game who really cares.”
Well now, if you have already made up your mind, why stick around?
December 18th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
And statistically speaking Griese had better numbers than Glennon with a 69% completion percentage and a 97.5 qbr.
December 18th, 2013 at 7:59 pm
Bucfan #37…HA I forgot about those short walls at the old stadium. The wall allowed every fan a close access to the players, unlike RJS. Now the ushers won’t even let you down there AFTER the game and that sucks. I tried to go down and get near the NFL Network crew this season. I was going to try and throw my Sapp jersey at the stage and beg Sapp to sign the damn thing. No deal. The ticket checkers won’t even let you down there even when the game is over. I think that is pathetic.
December 18th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
You fail to account for the fact that most of those guys were very long in the tooth. Alstott was a non factor, as was Jurevicious, Brown, and Gardner. Brooks wasn’t in his prime either. Galloway had less than 500 yards receiving. Clayton had a good year, but that doesn’t mean he was talented. People have fluke seasons sometimes, and time proved that to be the case. Simeon had 12 sacks by the way, unless I’m mistaken. We’ve got about 10 guys in their prime that are pro Bowl players. Key words, in their prime. That team did not have the expectations that this team had. Surely even you can’t argue that.
December 18th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
Buc1987,
I’m not as forgiving as you. An 0-8 start and probable 4-4 finish this year? Really drinking Schiano’s kool aid aren’t you. Gruden got a pass that year because we won the SB. I’m not turning this into a Gruden discussion, he will always be famous for winning it all! Schiano couldn’t hold Gruden’s jock as far as imaginative play calling and game planning and making adjustments. I’d take Gruden back any day over Schiano. I think Schiano is a very hard worker, he appears to be able to develop talent at some positions and I believe he would be a good defensive coordinator or qb coach. He is also stubborn and has tunnel vision when trying to do things he thinks will work but when they don’t, the losses keep coming and once again, the Buc offense, or lack thereof, makes us ranked at the very bottom in nearly every offensive statistic. NFL head coach isn’t easy. That’s why 25% if them it more get canned each year. I don’t have confidence Schiano can adapt fast enough and 4-12 is 4-12. Don’t be happy with being in games. Let’s win
December 18th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
But you know what, you’re right, this team is a 4-10 team. That’s what you expected right? No disappointment, because they haven’t quit. That’s good enough for you. I’m sure you want them to get a trophy at the end of the year.
December 18th, 2013 at 8:33 pm
bucs will suck next year too I would rather watch nothing than buc games these owners don’t give a dam about winning if they did they would of hired a nfl proven coach
December 18th, 2013 at 8:36 pm
worst team in he league by far
December 18th, 2013 at 10:06 pm
Not a huge Schiano fan. I though the hire was the wrong one from day one. I do see a difference between this team and a Raheem Morris team. By all accounts, the players appear to respect the coach and are beginning to believe in the system. He has brought some quality players on the team who have performed well, even though they are second and even 3rd stringers. I’d give him 8 more games or midway into next year to either fish or cut bait. In this case given the issues with the team this year, continuity makes more sense than starting all over again.
December 19th, 2013 at 1:12 am
Agree with Rob and Hawaiian. I started with full backing of Coach. Coach has not fulfilled on his side of the contract. I start questioning his ability to coach NFL players and scheme. Coach continues to do same crap stunts and zones. Coach decides to run same vanilla runs and predictable play calls. Stubbornness is NFL death. Schiano has to prove himself before I am buying. If I’m Glazer, Schiano has to sell me in 2 back to back tough games to end season. If Glennon stinks it up and we fail to play well, its time to drop the hammer.
December 19th, 2013 at 2:20 am
SKelly Says:
Question. How good of a coach would schiano look if our QB was rivers, rodgers, luck, manning, brees, etc.
yeah, everyone is right that the coaching has been subpar and we all would rather see them approach offensive game planning differently cause we are losing and its boring.But seriously, think about offensively, especially at QB, what he is working with. Freeman and Glennon. Is he this bad as a head coach or is the personel challange that big of a deal. Just something to think about.
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Yes he is a bad NFL coach. The last coach had worse personnel issues (ie a lot less talent) and managed to squeeze a 10-6 season (missing the playoff on a tiebreaker and the OT loss to Detroit) prior to getting canned. There were a lot of players on IR during that 10-6 season. Schiano doesn’t get a pass for injuries, MRSA, Freeman (he made that move and bungled it with the way he handled).