Glennon’s Clashes With Schiano
December 9th, 2013
Just don’t yell “toes on the line.” That my thing.
An interesting nugget Joe plucked from the locker room yesterday offers a peek at some of what Greg Schiano is talking about when he refers to the “works-his-tail-off” intensity of Mike Glennon.
Glennon is so focused in practice he’s unafraid to demand a change in plans for the New Schiano Order.
Donald Penn told Joe that Glennon is driven to the point that when the team practices a play and doesn’t get it just right, Glennon often will demand a do-over. Even when Schiano wants to stay on the tight practice schedule.
“If you guys could see him and the work he puts in all through the week, you know, the determination in practice. If he doesn’t do something good in practice, he’s calling the play back,” Penn said of Glennon. “We’re running the play again in practice, and for him to take charge like that is really showing. You know, everything is not going to look perfect all the time, but it’s a big statement how you bounce back. And he’s been bouncing back well.
“If he doesn’t feel it’s perfect, you know he’s a perfectionist. He wants to run it again. Sometimes Coach Schiano doesn’t want us to run it again because it’s time and all that. But when the quarterback wants to run it again so he can be perfect, that’s a big testament to him turning into a leader and trying to lead this offense as a quarterback.”
Have you seen quarterbacks do that before, Donald?
“Yeah, I have. But for a rookie, I haven’t,” Penn said. “Not from a rookie, for a rookie, big testament, big statement.”
Hmm, Penn played with a couple of other rookie quarterbacks in Josh Johnson and sleepy, leaky Josh Freeman.
Now Joe knows the NFL is filled with hard workers and perfectionists. That doesn’t make someone a good player. But it usually means they’ll fulfill their potential.
December 9th, 2013 at 10:17 am
Another backend slap for Sleepy Floyd!!!
December 9th, 2013 at 10:21 am
He must be practicing alot of plays over then after going 9-25..4 completed passes on the first drive alone.. Hes got loads of potential.. He was TOUCHED TWICE yesterday all game.. The O-line played THAT good
December 9th, 2013 at 11:04 am
@philip it also helped that the bucs didn’t throw the ball much. Mainly because they didn’t need to. With the way the defense played it won’t matter who we have at qb.
December 9th, 2013 at 11:06 am
It’s a bad game, Phillip, from a rookie QB. EJ Manuel was even worse yesterday, but both rookies have had some very promising moments this season. Let’s see how Glennon responds against a very good 49ers team next week.
December 9th, 2013 at 11:12 am
I think we have seen enough that he will get his shot for next year. What i am projecting from Glennon is a hard working Off-season. I would really like for him to see a throwing specialist, like Tom Brady did. to strength his arm and tighten up his spiral. A lot of people forget that Brady was a big check down guy his first couple of years. But i am excited to see the Bucs have a QB that will put in time during the off-season finally!
December 9th, 2013 at 11:13 am
He didn’t have a good day…but there were a couple of passes missed, especially the one to Underwood, that could have easily been a touchdown. In any case, anyone can have a bad day…we will see where it goes from there. Still think more competition at the position wouldn’t hurt.
December 9th, 2013 at 11:14 am
Freeman was also a perfectionist. His post game club clothes were always freshly pressed and dapper.
December 9th, 2013 at 11:29 am
He and Joseph said all the same things about Freeman.
December 9th, 2013 at 11:46 am
Although it wasn’t pretty for Glennon yesterday, it was’t all his fault. 2 plays before his first int, he put a 30-40 yard pass perfectly on the facemask of Underwood who promptly dropped it. 3 TDs/1 INT would have looked a lot better. It would also help if our tubby o-linemen could block on screens, whats up with that? I think we are the only team in the league who cannot execute a screen pass!
December 9th, 2013 at 11:51 am
Now while I agree Gleenon didn’t play great Yesterday, 1 INT shouldn’t have happened if T. Underwood catches the TD pass a few plays earlier. Really shouldn’t have been on the field. Probably should have had more Arc on the ball but V.Jax also has to give more of a fight to knock the ball away.
On the other interception, V. Jax fell down but either way that was a bad throw that probably would’ve been picked off.
Underwood had another drop on 3rd Down earlier in the game. Quite a few balls thrown away as well. As in no receivers were open. Buffalo does have the number 7 passing Defense in the NFL too. Plus, we threw a lot of Down the field balls. They took underneath away. Glennon wasn’t great but his numbers are misleading. 4 wins and 5 games, I’ll live with a rough game, made enough plays to win.
Hopefully Goldson has some good intel on the 49ers Secondary that can help us find some weaknesses next week. If he worked with that secondary like he does ours, he should know what to exploit. Carlos Rodgers couldn’t catch a ball if his life depended on it as well…
Go Bucs
December 9th, 2013 at 11:57 am
EJ Manuel sucks. Nice guy but horrible QB. Can’t believe a team wasted a 1st round pick on him.
December 9th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
@Snook, I’m not so quick to say any rookie QB is terrible. Peyton was pretty bad his first year as well. If Glennon had been a first round pick, we would be very happy with his progress so far.
December 9th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
I am happy being 4-9 with glennon.
I would be angry being 4-9 with freeman.
He was the biggest fraud in the nfl.
December 9th, 2013 at 12:36 pm
I’ll be at the Niners game. I hope we win, my Niners friend is coming with me… I think Glennon could still end up working out into a good but not great QB, or just be awful… I hope he’s good- He needs to keep working, and needs to have a great offseason of prep and practice with receivers and QB coaching.
December 9th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
The O-line always totes the company line as they should. But lets not read to much into gushing quotes from them. As I recall they said the same things about last Buc QB.
December 9th, 2013 at 1:44 pm
EJ was overrated at FSU, the guy NEVER carried the team to a big win. He beat all weaker teams but they didn’t win cause of him. He just has size and arm power.. Winstin is what EJ was suppose to be at FSU.
Glennon has had 2 poor games , looking like rookie cause he is a rookie, but he is learning. He seems like a better brad johnson and lessor matty ICE.
still waiting to see him rally the team from behind, but all those injuries probably dont help in crunch time..
December 9th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
So because you guys think hes our FRANCHISE QB he gets mulligans on the fact of the matter he still went 9-25 for 90 yds and 2 TD’s and 2 INT’s?? Fact is he has been throwing for under 30 attempts the past few games so don’t give me that crap about they barely threw any passes..25 ATTEMPTS who knows how many got called back for numerous Penalties…For every drop pass, someone fell, he stubbed his toe blah blah blah.. There’s the opposite side of the matter on all his completions.. If Vjax doesn’t make some of the craziest catches all season or Tim Wright then his day would have been worse.. Sorry that EXCUSE has two sides, failing to see both is called BLINDERS guys.. Glennon seriously was only TOUCHED TWICE all game long theres no excuse for how TERRIBLE of a game he had.. BTW Nick Foles was playing in 6″ of SNOW and still had a better day than Glennon.. Keep up the excuses don’t hear anything from New England how they can’t keep ANY weapons healthy all year..
Bucs fans make absolutely no sense we settle for mediocrity because we are so used to being the YUCS still I think.. I’m tired of settling for avg QB’s(GLENNON, FREEMAN, GRIESE, THE JOSH JOHNSON PROJECT, SHAUN KING, TRENT DILFER, ROB JOHNSON, CHRIS SIMMS, JEFF GARCIA, BRUCE GRADKOWSKI) Our “BEST” QB is Brad Freaking Johnson unless you want to count all the ones we let get away that turned out to be great….
Joe you have like a cult like following where everything you say goes with these people its crazy.
December 9th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
Glennon will be just fine. He had a bad game. The kid is a rookie and has already had enough good games for me to give him a mulligan. As long as I dont see games like this the rest of the year I am cool with us passing on a qb in the first 2 rounds of the draft.
December 9th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
No because he’s a rookie genius and our ENTIRE OFFENSE played horribly yesterday unlike when a certain QB was here that literally was the only player in our offense at times looking like a rookie in his 4th and 5th years.
He should have had 4 TD and 1 pick yesterday.
Funny how his critics show up when he has a bad game but are no where to be found when he has back to back games with near perfect QB ratings.
December 9th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
The kid is going to be great! Go bugs!
December 9th, 2013 at 3:53 pm
yes but they won, yes bad stats, but they won, Glennon is 4 and 5, do need some quick routes though when they stack the box and blitz
December 9th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
Nick Foles is also in his 2nd season as an NFL QB and has a much healthier cast of offensive starters around him. It’s OK though a lot of Eagles fans didn’t want him starting over the more physically gifted Vick but are coming around when they realize all Foles does is continue to win for them (even if he too is a 3rd round draft choice)
December 9th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
He needs to put on some muscle.
December 9th, 2013 at 4:58 pm
Philip I have a serious man crush for u now lol couldn’t have said it better myself o lord I forgot our QB crop was that bad lmao u really put it into perspective we need to trade up for Bridgewater….or convince Shaun king to come back I’d love to go back to to the NFL championship lmao Ok I couldn’t resist that last one ctfu go bucs Lavonte David for president 🙂
December 9th, 2013 at 5:50 pm
I think so many forget he’s just a rookie and things will happen. He’s done enough to earn a shot next year. Unless we feel there is an absolute upgrade in the top 10 (and no joe, Manziel is not an nfl qb) then we ride with glennon.
December 9th, 2013 at 6:03 pm
Hey, Glennon went NC State only to ride the bench behind another guy you may have heard of….Russell Wilson. Only when Russell got wishy-washy about playing football or baseball and the coach (now former coach) released him from his scholarship. Glennon had played in 10 games for a whopping 100 total plays up ’til then. His one and only season for NCSU (which would have been Wilson’s senior year) Glennon ONLY threw 31 TD’s (2nd highest in school history behind Phillip Rivers) vs. 12 INT’s and over 3,000 yds. That was his college experience! Now it’s a big time jump to the NFL, and I think he’s climbing the learning curve quickly! Get some support around him and the Bucs will go places!
December 9th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
Kinda cutesy and all these two…but the Greg & Glennon Show feels like 6-10 next year to me….would love to be wrong, however. I jinxed Glennon…gave him some props after the bomb to V-Jax against Carolina…only to watch him go Garo Glennon shortly thereafter. He hasn’t been the same since 🙂
December 10th, 2013 at 12:39 am
Did not know that Ken. Great post.
I believe he can be a productive QB in the NFL if can get 1st team snaps in the off season. We have bigger holes to fill in the draft other than QB.
IMO
December 10th, 2013 at 9:44 am
You could cut and paste the early Josh Freeman posts…He works his butt off…he’s a natural leader had a yada
Actually, that’s true minus the natural leader part. And there was a quote from Barber on how Freeman works but Barber wasn’t sure how smart he was going about it..–Joe
December 10th, 2013 at 2:30 pm
all I had to do was painfully listen to Freeman stumble through a sentence to realize that he was a rock…