The Saints And Liam Coen
January 1st, 2025
Joe has yet to receive word that Liam Coen has received or accepted a Team Glazer offer he can’t refuse to continue calling plays for the Bucs next season.
Hopefully, that good news arrives next week.
Yes, Coen is under contract as Bucs offensive coordinator for next season, but there’s legitmate fear he may leave the building for a head coaching gig.
It has a lot to do with the Bucs’ high-octane, highly-diverse and high-achieving offense.
A 39-year-old from the famed Sean McVay coaching tree, Coen is a hot name as interview season approaches. And what 39-year-old Kevin O’Connell has done in Minnesota has to be fanning those flames. O’Connell worked alongside Coen with the Rams.
So that brings Joe to the slimy Saints.
The Saints have a quality general manager, stable ownership and they already fired their defense-first head coach of the last three seasons (2022-2024). It’s a safe bet New Orleans has its eye on a young offensive mind or two for its vacancy.
Might that be Coen?
And is Coen showcasing himself Sunday for Saints management in the Bucs’ must-win game against the Saints in Tampa?
Joe thinks the Saints gig could be attractive to Coen from the standpoint of stability, as the Saints have been patient with head coaches.
The Saints are in an absolute salary cap mess that won’t be fixed for a couple of years, and they’re probably stuck with QB Derek Carr for one more season, but the Saints’ heirarchy seems like one that would be realistic about its rebuild mode and would let Coen operate accordingly.
Joe likes Coen and has no interest in him landing in New Orleans, but Joe does think it’s certainly a sleeper Coen landing spot.
January 1st, 2025 at 2:39 pm
We need to keep Coen no matter what. We can easily replace Bowles. We cannot easily replace Liam. Please do the right thing Glazer family!
January 1st, 2025 at 2:40 pm
Going to the Saints would doom us for years!
January 1st, 2025 at 2:47 pm
Plain and simple….you don’t let him leave the building. He is the most important signing of the off season. Go all in on the defense and this team is a major contender.
January 1st, 2025 at 2:51 pm
Joe thinks the Saints gig could be attractive to Coen from the standpoint of stability, as the Saints have been patient with head coaches.
The Bucs certainly have patient with Bowles. Bowles didn’t have to build anything. It was gifted to him.
January 1st, 2025 at 2:57 pm
Saints are an old team in salary cap hell. They won’t be good for at least a couple more years
January 1st, 2025 at 2:58 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised if Coen goes elsewhere to escape the Bowles black hole.
With a top 3 offense we’re one loss away from missing the playoffs.
Why waste a brilliant offensive mind getting undercut by a clueless HC.
You know the Saints will be prepared for this game.
Throw out the record. Forget the previous game against them.
These games can get tough right away.
January 1st, 2025 at 3:00 pm
I can’t think of a worse scenario than Coen going to a division rival and this team being left with a coach that can barely post a 50% winning avg. Although Coen leaving to go to any other team is pretty much equally as bad. The only reason this team has ANY chance of going to the playoffs is because of the work Coen has done with Baker and this offense. I surely hope the Glazer family can grasp the importance of this situation. It could have long lasting effects on this franchise for many years to come. This no time for measured moves.
Secure Coen 2025
January 1st, 2025 at 3:07 pm
Yeah sure the Saints will be ready for another azzwhomping and Mike gets his candy too. What has changed for the Saints since the last time the Bucs played them? They only got worse.
January 1st, 2025 at 3:08 pm
Would be interesting to see how the Bucs players respond with the stability of not having to deal with installing ANOTHER offensive coordinator.
January 1st, 2025 at 3:09 pm
I don’t think the Glazers have much of a choice. It would be a public relations nightmare for Coen to go elsewhere.
January 1st, 2025 at 3:10 pm
Recent speculation has suggested that San Francisco 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan might be traded to another team this offseason, similar to how Sean Payton transitioned from the New Orleans Saints. However, both Shanahan and 49ers general manager John Lynch have publicly dismissed these rumors, expressing their commitment to the organization.
If such a move were to occur, potential candidates to fill the head coaching position could include Liam Coen. Coen’s offensive creativity has garnered attention, and his familiarity with Shanahan’s systems could make him a suitable successor.
Additionally, Miami’s head coach Mike McDaniel, who previously served as the 49ers’ offensive coordinator under Shanahan, could be considered as Liam’s replacement in Tampa.
January 1st, 2025 at 3:16 pm
Offer Bowles the president of operations (promotion) offer Coen head coach. Bucs save face, Bowles makes more money! We all win!
January 1st, 2025 at 3:19 pm
If this happened then the entire NFC South will be helmed by ex Buc coaches
January 1st, 2025 at 3:21 pm
If he leaves he leaves… Not worrying about it.
I hope he takes the Ben Johnson path. He has unfinished business here. He should want to run it back – unless we win the SB this year
I love the guy and think VERY highly of him as an OC but he’s not irreplaceable in spite of what some of you seem to think.
Honestly, I think he’d be a fool to leave for a HC position at this point. I think the man understands continuity, familiarity, time on task, etc and how much better THIS offense could be with another off season and season to work together. He should want to leave only if he gets the perfect offer, not jump at the 1st chance.
He has A LOT of weapons here! The offense is still growing, adapting, gelling and the sky’s the limit if he stays…..he’s got to know that.
January 1st, 2025 at 3:24 pm
Liam Coen’s parents lives here in Florida and I’m sure he’d love to remain close to them which bodes well as an incentive to stay here.
If I were the Glazers, I’d make Coen the highest paid offensive coordinator in the league and also offer him incentives as well.
Todd Bowles is a good guy and I like him alot, but just not as HC. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Glazers don’t try to make a change regardless of where the Bucs finish this season. The only chance I see Bowles staying if they miraculously make it to the NFC Championship game.
January 1st, 2025 at 3:24 pm
Bucs would be incredibly dumb to let Liam Coen leave. Liam Coen needs to be the Bucs next head coach.
January 1st, 2025 at 3:26 pm
Off topic.. but
Shamari Simmons…🤔
January 1st, 2025 at 3:28 pm
I don’t rule out a Bucs loss on Sunday at all, and a Falcons win… so if the Bucs miss the playoffs at 9-8, and lose the division… with a top 3 offense and a 21st ranked defense run by the head coach… makes you wonder what they might do.
January 1st, 2025 at 3:29 pm
BuxfaninTX Says:
January 1st, 2025 at 3:19 pm
If this happened then the entire NFC South will be helmed by ex Buc coaches
Excellent point ^^^
January 1st, 2025 at 3:33 pm
GoneGator Says:
January 1st, 2025 at 3:21 pm
…. he’s not irreplaceable in spite of what some of you seem to think.
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Sounds good. Then it should easy to name one Offensive Coordinator in the 50 year history of this franchise that has done a better job than Liam Coen
Secure Coen 2025
January 1st, 2025 at 3:34 pm
Read the other day the Aints are $63 MILLION over the cap
January 1st, 2025 at 3:46 pm
And then our OC next year gets poached by the Falcons in the 2026 off season.
We cannot let Coen walk, he needs to be given whatever he wants to stay.
January 1st, 2025 at 3:58 pm
2 different topics bro. You’re talking history, I’m talking about now and the future. And I can’t tell you who would be better – Liam’s fantastic – but I don’t buy into the hero worship some people around here do. You’d think that Liam Baker, Mike, and Bucky could win an SB by themselves.
January 1st, 2025 at 4:00 pm
Assistant head coach,,, takes over head coach in 2026 w agreement from Bowles
January 1st, 2025 at 4:09 pm
If Liam Coen decides to leave Tampa for a head coaching opportunity in college or the pros, I wish him nothing but success. This isn’t the end of the world—there are plenty of talented candidates out there. Remember, the same concerns arose last year when Dave Canales left, and things worked out just fine. The core group of offensive talent remains strong, and with Coach Bowles’s proven ability to identify and hire promising, young play-callers, there will be no shortage of qualified suitors eager to replicate that success.
Go Bucs!
January 1st, 2025 at 4:13 pm
I don’t know who coaches Arizona State defensive backs, but we need to hire him
January 1st, 2025 at 4:13 pm
Lightningvinny Says:
January 1st, 2025 at 4:00 pm
Assistant head coach,,, takes over head coach in 2026 w agreement from Bowles
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Way too sensible. Hope you are right. The Bowles Busters aren’t going to be happy, but Coach Todd isn’t going anywhere when team finishes 10-7. Next year with defense improved, 12-5 very possible. If that happens, the angry masses here will miss “good old Coach Bowles” when he gracefully steps aside for Coen.
January 1st, 2025 at 4:23 pm
3 things:
happy new year…
cam scatteboo…
and the saints will now be playing sunday’s game for the city of new orlean’s after last nights tragic terror attack…the game potentially just took on new meaning to the saints franchise
January 1st, 2025 at 4:27 pm
Uggggh
January 1st, 2025 at 4:29 pm
Nooooooooooooooo!!!!
January 1st, 2025 at 4:31 pm
#Repost
LUVMYBUCS Says:
December 8th, 2024 at 6:44 am
Bucky Irvin & Cam Skattebo 2025!!
January 1st, 2025 at 4:42 pm
^ you know it LUV! ive been pushing for it hard….and you know what happens when Jason listens to me….we get some gems.
January 1st, 2025 at 4:43 pm
The Saints let Sean Peyton go. They don’t deserve another great coach.
January 1st, 2025 at 4:45 pm
How do you find reposts? I was talking about him near the end of november….i type my name in search and nothing comes up
January 1st, 2025 at 4:45 pm
MadMax
Lol, we’ve been doing this a long time, Bredren
January 1st, 2025 at 4:45 pm
yep i think the stakes just changed for new orleans on sunday
January 1st, 2025 at 4:46 pm
“Your Name”+”Whatever”+”Joebucsfan.com”
January 1st, 2025 at 4:49 pm
To my knowledge, this was the first time we spoke about him
Archives: December 8th
https://www.joebucsfan.com/2024/12/liam-coen-says-jalen-mcmillan-is-turning-the-corner/
January 1st, 2025 at 4:52 pm
The Bucs have been patient with head coaches too.
January 1st, 2025 at 4:52 pm
If the Bucs don’t make Coen head coach after this season, he will definitely be gone. If not New Orleans, somewhere else. He’ll be one of the hottest coordinator on the market. If we let him leave and stick with Bowles, it will go down as one of the dumbest decisions in franchise history like drafting Bo Jackson or trading away Steve Young.
January 1st, 2025 at 4:52 pm
“MadMax”+”Skattebo”+”Joebucsfan.com”
January 1st, 2025 at 4:56 pm
#ReportMadMax Says:
December 7th, 2024 at 1:12 pm
Sorry, off-topic, but this kid cam Skattebo is something else, rb for az st.
I know we need to draft D first 2-3 rounds, but if we lose Tucker or White, we need to draft this cat. Hes predicted as a 4th right now. Just imagine a Bucky but with about 25 more pounds….man would that be a two-headed monster lol.
January 1st, 2025 at 5:06 pm
Slacker Says:
January 1st, 2025 at 2:47 pm
Plain and simple….you don’t let him leave the building. He is the most important signing of the off season. Go all in on the defense and this team is a major contender.
Agreed!
January 1st, 2025 at 5:18 pm
the bucky and boo show
scatteboo
January 1st, 2025 at 5:20 pm
johnny scatteboom
January 1st, 2025 at 5:24 pm
That scenario would trigger a massive traffic jam of fans heading on a one way drive to the Skyway Bridge.
January 1st, 2025 at 5:24 pm
No matter how our season ends and whether or not Bowles is still head coach we need to do everything we can to keep him in the fold. Make him assistant Head Coach in waiting or something and give him some life changing money to stay here. If we let him get away this organization and fans may regret it for a long time.
January 1st, 2025 at 5:29 pm
Ok thanks….my memory isnt as good as it once was…i think i watched him end of november and didnt say anything but thought i did lol.
Man, i can dig through some serious stuff in these archives if i had the time….the players we have, the signings, moving Wirfs to LT (was against it at first but then it made sense)….pretend GM in a trailer park lol
January 1st, 2025 at 5:31 pm
WTF is with u people who do u think brought Coen to Tampa it ain’t the tooth fairy Bowles obviously knows what he is doing or he wud not be here for 5 years it ain’t that easy to replace on a crap shoot do u people think before u speak I think not
January 1st, 2025 at 5:56 pm
^ Todd has his shining moments….but Jason is also ultimately involved.
January 1st, 2025 at 6:02 pm
I used to think Mikey Loomis was an excellent GM but over the past few years I have changed my opinion to just good. The Saints have been playing in salary cap hell for the past few years which has prevented them from being more than a .500 team or worse. He is still a pretty good talent evaluator but when it comes to controlling the salary of the players on the team he has been a dismal failures as the Saints haven’t been back to the Super Bowl iv over 10 years. Not only that he signed Doug Winston to a contract which was a total bonehead move for the price he paid someone who was and is an interception machine.
January 1st, 2025 at 6:16 pm
drdneastup Says:
January 1st, 2025 at 6:02 pm….Not only that he signed Doug Winston to a contract which was a total bonehead move…
^^^^
Doug Winston ???????
What are you even doing on this site ?
January 1st, 2025 at 6:23 pm
drdneastup Says:
January 1st, 2025 at 6:02 pm….Not only that he signed Doug Winston to a contract which was a total bonehead move…
^^^^
Doug Winston ???????
What are you even doing on this site ?
^^^^^
Wait,wait, I know the answer to that question. You are trying to impress us with your knowledge.
January 1st, 2025 at 6:25 pm
I will say what i said last season about Canales.
I get that these guys have a dream and want to be Head Coaches, i get they want to strike when the iron is hot but in the long term is better to wait for the right opportunity.
Carolina job was not a good situation because of ownership and draft capital.
New Orleans job is even worse with salary cap hell and a bad roster.
I think is better to find a job when you are in a position to succeed.
I will understand it however if Coen leaves just like Canales.
A big offer so Coen can stay is worth a shot.
January 1st, 2025 at 6:25 pm
Kinda stacked year for HC candidates, Coen has value but maybe not his year to hit the market. I’d rather come onto the market when my values the highest….
January 1st, 2025 at 6:43 pm
If we win the division, it will be thanks to Cohen, not Bowles. So we shouldn’t get into the trap of keeping Bowles just because we would win the division. We should have a much better record if it wasn’t for Bowles, bus defense and game management. So there’s a clear justification to replace Bowles with Cohen.
January 1st, 2025 at 6:58 pm
When the Bucs were looking for 2024’s OC, and hired Coen, what was Coen’s remark about Baker being a FA? “I wanted to be the BUCS OC, and getting Baker was the cherry on top.”
Coen wanted to be the BUCS OC. Without or with Baker and Evans… I think Coen has found a home in Tampa Bay. He got his dream fulfilled here, not LA McVey is their OC/HC, KY twice as OC.. Tampa gave him his opportunity, and Coen has had to work against Bowles while in LA. Maybe Coen knows how difficult that is, more so than the JBF GMs? Maybe Coen has spoken with Bowles about the time he wants to be HC, Perhaps, (my best Dell guy voice) they both want to continue Ariens’ plan of succession from within?
Hopefully, Coens has not yet found he has the skillset or coaches in his ranks to be ready for HC duties, and allow another OC to run his gameplan.
GO!!!!! BUCS!!!!!
January 1st, 2025 at 7:51 pm
Can the Tampa Bay Bucs have some coaching stability for the next season at least? Yeah, Todd Bowles is a real dumbo. He brought both Coen and Baker here. We really have some first-class retards on this site! Go Bucs Sunday!
January 1st, 2025 at 7:53 pm
Doug Winston? No, you meant Famous Jameis Winston the bust. Whew, talk about a first class typo!
January 1st, 2025 at 8:03 pm
@LUVMYBUCS
Yeah wouldn’t mind that & they should definitely consider using DJ Williams a little more, too! If they do lose them. He’s somebody else that has the potential to be decent.
January 1st, 2025 at 8:06 pm
@LUVMYBUCS
If we did that we’d be getting on all the trains in alphabetical order.
The A TRAIN (Alstott)
The B TRAIN (Bucky)
The C TRAIN (Cam)
The D TRAIN (DJ)
January 1st, 2025 at 8:42 pm
I’ve read/heard somewhere ( pound of salt ) that Chunky/Gruden could be the next Taints head coach. He’s worked with them unofficially and would be reunited with Used Carr.
January 1st, 2025 at 9:01 pm
Coen is priceless and needs to be kept in building….
Bowels is so replaceable…..
Glazers could be HEROs or Zeros!
January 1st, 2025 at 9:18 pm
You did’t hear or read that it ain’t happen. He is not coaching in the NFL as long as his law suit is effect. Of course now I can perpetuate this roomer by saying I heard.
January 1st, 2025 at 9:47 pm
Saints are in salary cap hell but he could absolutely destroy Bowles defense with ease twice a year
January 1st, 2025 at 10:05 pm
Nice tip! You can go back and see how wrong some of the loudmouth’s on here have been about almost everything.
January 1st, 2025 at 10:18 pm
I’d make Coen the head coach before I’d let him leave. Nothing against Bowles, but the team is winning because of the offense, and in spite of the defense.
At the same time I would not want Coen as the head coach, as he’s really really good as the OC, and the last thing I’d want is to remove him from that position.
January 1st, 2025 at 10:29 pm
Don’t we have enough to worry about getting through this Sunday’s game against the Saints without speculating on this nightmare scenario? Let’s see what happens this week and in the playoffs, then worry about next year. (And fwiw, I really hope we keep Coen for a while, with or without Bowles.)
January 1st, 2025 at 11:51 pm
Co coach him here..we let Todd walk before him it’s the obvious move
January 2nd, 2025 at 12:09 am
maybe we can have doug winston become a buc…any position, any facet…
we gotta get this dougie winson in the building no matter what
January 2nd, 2025 at 12:12 am
agree with rod…
you really don’t want coen as HC…you want him to remain OC…
the perfect scenario is for him to maintain his current job…not take on a load of others as well…
one step at a time bucs fans
January 2nd, 2025 at 1:13 am
Rod Munch Says:
January 1st, 2025 at 10:18 pm
“I’d make Coen the head coach before I’d let him leave. Nothing against Bowles, but the team is winning because of the offense, and in spite of the defense.
At the same time I would not want Coen as the head coach, as he’s really really good as the OC, and the last thing I’d want is to remove him from that position. ”
This nails exactly how I feel.
As a last resort, I would make him HC…but I prefer to keep him at OC another year at least. Maybe a promotion to Asst HC and a raise would work.
So far as Bowles, I’m good with keeping him if it happens. I DO believe he is a great Defensive Head Coach…but I also want a DC put on staff.
In order to support Baker Mayfield, the drafting for the past couple years has focused on offense.
We can now focus on building a good defense. Secondary and pass rushing, and this team will be top of the league.
January 2nd, 2025 at 6:46 am
“”With a top 3 offense we’re one loss away from missing the playoffs.””
Think about that Glazers. Think real hard.
January 2nd, 2025 at 11:10 am
Coen’s offenses have practiced against the two of the NFC South defenses every week for years. He knows Raheem’s Rams and Todd’s Bucs D very well. He would be a very savvy choice for Saints.
January 2nd, 2025 at 12:26 pm
I wasn’t worried about Canales leaving, in the least. The only reason he got that job was because he was the only one willing to take it (and I didn’t blame him for it one bit). The only thing that p’ed me off was the STUPID NFL Rule that cost us a 3rd-Round Comp. Pick. 2-YEARS!? Stupid. 2-years, or 1-year… What difference does it make. Actually, it makes much more sense with it being 1-year, if you had to pick. It should’ve been ‘WITHIN’ the first 2-years!!!! The Bucs FO should’ve at least tried petitioning the league. Prob wouldn’t have worked, but whatever. A STUPID RULE.
January 2nd, 2025 at 1:49 pm
Coen in the Big Easy would be a hard pill to swallow and one that could haunt us for a very long time. And if that did happen, how bizarre it would be for all three of our division rivals to have hired former Bucs coaches to lead their franchises.
Even with Morris taking the long route to ATL, has that ever happened in any other division in NFL football? It would be worst kind of compliment to the Bucs organization.