I checked not sure. He has talent, he IS fragile from his college days to today that has been a constant.
I leave it up to Jason and Todd to make that decision. Who was it who said they keep him until they can replace him.
I don’t think you can ever get enough “cover” corners. Right now that would be Zyon and when he shows up Dean. I’d love for the Bucs to come up with a superstar cover guy in the draft. That along with a healthy Winfield and a decent ILB to match with LVD would dramatically improve the D.
Jamel Dean
Grades
2024
Regular
OVERALL GRADE
75.1
AVG
25th/223 CBs
PASS RUSH GRADE
55.8
AVG
91st/223 CBs
RUN DEFENSE GRADE
68.0
AVG
66th/223 CBs
COVERAGE GRADE
74.9
AVG
22nd/223 CBs
Season Stats
2024
Regular
SOLO TACKLES 2024
50
36th/223 CBs
INTERCEPTIONS 2024
1
43rd/223 CBs
TOTAL PRESSURES 2024
0
84th/223 CBs
RECEPTIONS ALLOWED 2024
39
54th/223 CBs
Well, he missed 5 games and we lost all 5 of those games, so be card what you wish for, arm-chair GMs.
Same people were calling for Rachaad White to ride the bench and ya’ll finally got your wish the final month of the season, and what happened? Our offense was stuck in the mud and we lost 2 out of 4 games.
Cover-2 Defense haha absolutely not. The absolute worst part of every NFL secondary in that guys play cover-2. This isn’t the 90s kid. That don’t work. You have to play fast , have good vertical , and long arms if you want to succeed at this level. This guys need man to man press man coverage DBs. It’s the only way to compete with the absolute best. Be a loser and go zone cover-2. No problem. Want to win play man and have the best coverage possible at all times. Yes I play to win. Go all in for the WIN! Bucs 2025-2026.
I think Jamel Dean will still be an asset. Y’all wanna blame him for getting hurt and that’s not right either. If we had skilled depth maybe he wouldn’t have been hurt. He’s also simply just aging & it does happen so get over it. Him coming in off the bench or in 3/4 WR sets would be nice value for this secondary. He’s still good just need a younger guy to take over in his place.
Shavon Revel CB ECU is looking like a hot target right now.
He is so lackadaisical in his play, acts like we are privileged to have him there, shows complete opposite behavior of Zyon who is mentally and physically aggressive, doesn’t trust his own skill set, drops easy picks, doesn’t tackle well
Dude is way overpaid and at best should be in the 3rd corner/ Bryce Hall role
He has superior skills but his mental game is very very soft and hence he is hurt all the time….
Situations are situational. If we draft some young DBs, I’m all in on keeping him on a cheap rotation. He is still a veteran with a ring and knowledge of the game and Todd Bowles “complex” defense. If we can scoop another cost effective half way decent veteran DB. At the end of the day It won’t matter if you can’t rash the freaking passer. in a world full of Mahomes, Allen, Daniel’s and Hurts Pass Rush is kind of paramount. Idc how long the OC search takes just get the right guy. Liam leaving just made Baker start prepping for the revenge tour.
I don’t really understand the “Dean at a reduced salary/backup” idea…I don’t believe he really wanted to play for the $15 million he was getting a year, what would make him want to play for less? The Bucs should be able to get a CB in the 3rd or 4th Round that’ll be a more viable backup option, without the injuries and stone hands of Dean.
You keep Dean just not at his current salary. I know he’s fragile but you really can’t have to many cover corners and when healthy and I mean it’s a really big when he’s actually decent at man v man. Gotta draft a few and add one in FA. I hope we bring Bryce hall back. He’s a starter who got lost for the season in the 1st game. Cut deans salary bring hall back draft a few one high if they like a guy and thru FA. With all the injuries to DB last year we gotta load up lol
You get out of that contract if you can. Dean can be replaced and cap space added same with Godwin can’t stay healthy and the rookie already all but replaced him. We need the cap space to resign Vea and go get an edge rusher also love an upgrade on the Oline to really make that the best oline in football.
We are close to being a superbowl team but an edge rusher is everything! We need to address it have to address it!
joe in michigan lol I know right!? wtf is wrong with RM? obviously better than Dean can and would be found, most likely even udfa would be better, Dean IS that bad, it needs to be looked into!
Cut him and hope that the Lions claim him. Then hope he gets placed on their practice squad. It worked for Kaevon Merriweather. It’s genius. No questioning the clever savvy of our head coach! Haters gonna hate.
Reduce his salary or cut him. He would be ok as a 3rd or 4th cornerback. He’s not a starter. Too brittle and plays too soft. Draft 2 CBs in 1st round and 4th. Need to be able to play press man, have ball skills and tackle.
Joe,
How about stories on Chris Godwin’s, Bryce Hall and SVD’s rehabilitation from injuries?
No, they need to add more CB’s. I agree he is unreliable health wise but the Bucs need as many CB’s and they aren’t in a dire cap situation. They should sign a CB and draft another. Let Dean walk next year when his contract expires. I don’t ever want to see Josh Hayes or Tyrek Funderburk playing CB ever again. Keeping Dean, signing a FA, and drafting a CB can prevent that from happening
People seem to think it’s easy to just replace Dean. If it were, we probably would have already. But that’s not really the whole story. It’s not just replace Dean, it’s find someone better opposite the replacement for Dean. Now you’re looking for 2 CB’s, not 1. And not just competent CB’s, but better than Dean CB’s. If you want to find better than Dean and move Dean to the #2 CB, that won’t be easy, but it’s definitely more do-able than finding 2 better than Dean’s.
Absolutely not. We have no depth as it is and Dean is a good cover corner. We just need to draft another corner to compete against him. If we had quality backups then maybe, but we don’t
January 26th, 2025 at 8:36 am
Bucs should go back to a simple cover 2 D and move some players aroung. It cant get worse than what it is now.
January 26th, 2025 at 8:38 am
China dolls have no place on an NFL playing field.
January 26th, 2025 at 8:40 am
The only problem is Todd loves him so they’ll never move on.
January 26th, 2025 at 8:51 am
Dean is soft.
January 26th, 2025 at 9:05 am
I checked not sure. He has talent, he IS fragile from his college days to today that has been a constant.
I leave it up to Jason and Todd to make that decision. Who was it who said they keep him until they can replace him.
I don’t think you can ever get enough “cover” corners. Right now that would be Zyon and when he shows up Dean. I’d love for the Bucs to come up with a superstar cover guy in the draft. That along with a healthy Winfield and a decent ILB to match with LVD would dramatically improve the D.
January 26th, 2025 at 9:17 am
Draft a starting CB at #19.
Trade Dean, or move a reduced-salary Dean to a backup role.
January 26th, 2025 at 9:18 am
Dean, JTS, and Hall. They just run around on the field.
January 26th, 2025 at 9:19 am
Yes – gain $8M+ cap space that can be better utilized elsewhere. Dean ain’t worth $15M per year….
Draft a CB in 1st or 2nd rd.
January 26th, 2025 at 9:41 am
If you can keep him for half price keep him if not as Pickgrin just said save the money spend it elsewhere….
January 26th, 2025 at 9:46 am
Does anyone know where he was ranked for 2024? or Whitehead?
January 26th, 2025 at 9:58 am
Jamel Dean
Grades
2024
Regular
OVERALL GRADE
75.1
AVG
25th/223 CBs
PASS RUSH GRADE
55.8
AVG
91st/223 CBs
RUN DEFENSE GRADE
68.0
AVG
66th/223 CBs
COVERAGE GRADE
74.9
AVG
22nd/223 CBs
Season Stats
2024
Regular
SOLO TACKLES 2024
50
36th/223 CBs
INTERCEPTIONS 2024
1
43rd/223 CBs
TOTAL PRESSURES 2024
0
84th/223 CBs
RECEPTIONS ALLOWED 2024
39
54th/223 CBs
January 26th, 2025 at 9:58 am
According to Pro Football Focus forgot to put that
January 26th, 2025 at 10:06 am
I’m with stpete on Not sure. The Defense was so banged up, the waterboy played a few times. 🙂
January 26th, 2025 at 10:07 am
We already have no depth at CB. Maybe try to get him back with a reduced salary. But definitely can’t rely on him.
January 26th, 2025 at 10:15 am
every time he gets beat, he gets injured it seems
January 26th, 2025 at 10:21 am
Well, he missed 5 games and we lost all 5 of those games, so be card what you wish for, arm-chair GMs.
Same people were calling for Rachaad White to ride the bench and ya’ll finally got your wish the final month of the season, and what happened? Our offense was stuck in the mud and we lost 2 out of 4 games.
January 26th, 2025 at 10:21 am
*be careful
January 26th, 2025 at 10:21 am
Just remember guys it’s not your money!
January 26th, 2025 at 10:56 am
Cover-2 Defense haha absolutely not. The absolute worst part of every NFL secondary in that guys play cover-2. This isn’t the 90s kid. That don’t work. You have to play fast , have good vertical , and long arms if you want to succeed at this level. This guys need man to man press man coverage DBs. It’s the only way to compete with the absolute best. Be a loser and go zone cover-2. No problem. Want to win play man and have the best coverage possible at all times. Yes I play to win. Go all in for the WIN! Bucs 2025-2026.
January 26th, 2025 at 11:01 am
I think Jamel Dean will still be an asset. Y’all wanna blame him for getting hurt and that’s not right either. If we had skilled depth maybe he wouldn’t have been hurt. He’s also simply just aging & it does happen so get over it. Him coming in off the bench or in 3/4 WR sets would be nice value for this secondary. He’s still good just need a younger guy to take over in his place.
Shavon Revel CB ECU is looking like a hot target right now.
January 26th, 2025 at 11:24 am
He is never healthy. He does not pick off passes.
Move on.
January 26th, 2025 at 11:36 am
Dean should be replaced, IMO. Cutting him saves over $8 million on the salary cap, that should go towards a decent CB in FA, then draft a couple more.
January 26th, 2025 at 11:44 am
He is so lackadaisical in his play, acts like we are privileged to have him there, shows complete opposite behavior of Zyon who is mentally and physically aggressive, doesn’t trust his own skill set, drops easy picks, doesn’t tackle well
Dude is way overpaid and at best should be in the 3rd corner/ Bryce Hall role
He has superior skills but his mental game is very very soft and hence he is hurt all the time….
January 26th, 2025 at 11:46 am
This team needs veteran depth in secondary and for that we need money.
Drafting a 1st round CB, cutting Dean, and spending the 8m on vet LBs & DBs makes perfect sense.
January 26th, 2025 at 11:50 am
@quarterback whisperer. I was thinking the same thing.
January 26th, 2025 at 11:58 am
Situations are situational. If we draft some young DBs, I’m all in on keeping him on a cheap rotation. He is still a veteran with a ring and knowledge of the game and Todd Bowles “complex” defense. If we can scoop another cost effective half way decent veteran DB. At the end of the day It won’t matter if you can’t rash the freaking passer. in a world full of Mahomes, Allen, Daniel’s and Hurts Pass Rush is kind of paramount. Idc how long the OC search takes just get the right guy. Liam leaving just made Baker start prepping for the revenge tour.
January 26th, 2025 at 12:23 pm
He costs too much, plays too little, and doesn’t do anything when he is playing other that give up 4th down passes to Bryce Young.
BuhBye.
January 26th, 2025 at 12:30 pm
This is similar to the Carlton Davis situation last off-season.
Find a trade partner if possible or attempt to rework his deal first.
If that fails then cut him – but this creates another hole to fill on defense and just plugging in a rookie is not a guaranteed solution…
January 26th, 2025 at 12:31 pm
Yes please–missed the poll, not reliable, injury prone, all he does is get beat and get picked on successfully.
January 26th, 2025 at 12:33 pm
Emmanwori if he’s there at 19, then trade up into the top of the 2nd for Shavon Revel if he’s still there.
January 26th, 2025 at 12:41 pm
I’m not sure Dean even likes to play football…
January 26th, 2025 at 12:47 pm
I don’t really understand the “Dean at a reduced salary/backup” idea…I don’t believe he really wanted to play for the $15 million he was getting a year, what would make him want to play for less? The Bucs should be able to get a CB in the 3rd or 4th Round that’ll be a more viable backup option, without the injuries and stone hands of Dean.
January 26th, 2025 at 12:48 pm
Aaron: I also think that’s what Dean’s tape shows.
January 26th, 2025 at 2:34 pm
You keep Dean just not at his current salary. I know he’s fragile but you really can’t have to many cover corners and when healthy and I mean it’s a really big when he’s actually decent at man v man. Gotta draft a few and add one in FA. I hope we bring Bryce hall back. He’s a starter who got lost for the season in the 1st game. Cut deans salary bring hall back draft a few one high if they like a guy and thru FA. With all the injuries to DB last year we gotta load up lol
January 26th, 2025 at 3:00 pm
Typical low IQ reactionary dips—ts.
Who exactly is going to be the starting corner then, dummies?
January 26th, 2025 at 3:14 pm
Rod Munch Says:
January 26th, 2025 at 3:00 pm
Typical low IQ reactionary dips—ts.
Who exactly is going to be the starting corner then, dummies?
^^^^^^^
Have you ever heard of free agency and the draft? For real, are you special needs?
January 26th, 2025 at 3:54 pm
THAT AINT Right….OUR DE IS NOW A TOTAL LOSER YOU FOOL.
January 26th, 2025 at 3:59 pm
That aint right likes the Bowles ‘Cover Nobody D’. Pathetic.
January 26th, 2025 at 4:00 pm
Dean aint no Ronde.
January 26th, 2025 at 4:12 pm
You get out of that contract if you can. Dean can be replaced and cap space added same with Godwin can’t stay healthy and the rookie already all but replaced him. We need the cap space to resign Vea and go get an edge rusher also love an upgrade on the Oline to really make that the best oline in football.
We are close to being a superbowl team but an edge rusher is everything! We need to address it have to address it!
January 26th, 2025 at 4:25 pm
joe in michigan lol I know right!? wtf is wrong with RM? obviously better than Dean can and would be found, most likely even udfa would be better, Dean IS that bad, it needs to be looked into!
January 26th, 2025 at 5:44 pm
Cut him and hope that the Lions claim him. Then hope he gets placed on their practice squad. It worked for Kaevon Merriweather. It’s genius. No questioning the clever savvy of our head coach! Haters gonna hate.
January 26th, 2025 at 6:36 pm
Dean staying in Tampa Bay
January 26th, 2025 at 8:27 pm
no don’t move on from dean…
give him this last season…
even as the 3rd corner…
we need some stability back there – not so sure i’d call dean stability, but i’d like to somehow think he is,,,lol…
we just don’t have enough back there now, to throw him away…
he just seems meh on passion for the game or something…
he was def bowles big project, and pride and joy…if bowles is over him, holmes better wake up and start to ball
January 26th, 2025 at 8:31 pm
Reduce his salary or cut him. He would be ok as a 3rd or 4th cornerback. He’s not a starter. Too brittle and plays too soft. Draft 2 CBs in 1st round and 4th. Need to be able to play press man, have ball skills and tackle.
Joe,
How about stories on Chris Godwin’s, Bryce Hall and SVD’s rehabilitation from injuries?
January 26th, 2025 at 8:35 pm
No, they need to add more CB’s. I agree he is unreliable health wise but the Bucs need as many CB’s and they aren’t in a dire cap situation. They should sign a CB and draft another. Let Dean walk next year when his contract expires. I don’t ever want to see Josh Hayes or Tyrek Funderburk playing CB ever again. Keeping Dean, signing a FA, and drafting a CB can prevent that from happening
January 26th, 2025 at 10:08 pm
People seem to think it’s easy to just replace Dean. If it were, we probably would have already. But that’s not really the whole story. It’s not just replace Dean, it’s find someone better opposite the replacement for Dean. Now you’re looking for 2 CB’s, not 1. And not just competent CB’s, but better than Dean CB’s. If you want to find better than Dean and move Dean to the #2 CB, that won’t be easy, but it’s definitely more do-able than finding 2 better than Dean’s.
January 26th, 2025 at 10:53 pm
can we get a bowles confidence poll?
January 26th, 2025 at 11:12 pm
Oxy, Bowles confidence has to be sky high! Just ask his disciples.
January 27th, 2025 at 10:26 pm
Absolutely not. We have no depth as it is and Dean is a good cover corner. We just need to draft another corner to compete against him. If we had quality backups then maybe, but we don’t