CBS: Liam Coen’s Agreement With Bucs Meant Nothing
January 23rd, 2025
Contract detail.
Very good point made by the top dog of NFL news for CBS.
Jonathan Jones took to Twitter a short while ago and, with Bucs fans (and apparently the Bucs, too) outraged that (former ?) Bucs offensive coordinator Liam Coen apparently reneged on a deal to return to Tampa to be one of the game’s highest offensive coordinators, Jones put this issue in proper perspective.
The agreement doesn’t mean jack.
@jjones9: Coen’s deal with Tampa is unsigned but even if it were signed, it’s my understanding that still wouldn’t prevent him from entertaining the Jaguars and ultimately taking a deal to be their head coach.
Joe made that point earlier. Coordinator contracts can’t prevent a guy from leaving for a promotion. Now the contract could have been written that included substantial penalties if the contract were broken, or broken early. But that doesn’t prevent the owner of a new club from cutting the new coach a signing bonus to pay the penaties.
So in the big picture, Coen’s contract is just a talking point, a distraction.
It’s pretty clear to Joe that this “agreement” was used by Coen as leverage to get the general manager he wanted in Jacksonville.
Coen's deal with Tampa is unsigned, but even if it were signed, it's my understanding that still wouldn't prevent him from entertaining the Jaguars and ultimately taking a deal to be their head coach.
— Jonathan Jones (@jjones9) January 23, 2025
January 23rd, 2025 at 6:52 pm
Don’t care that he did it, just care how he did it.
Plz Bowles have one more in you.
January 23rd, 2025 at 6:53 pm
Good for Coen, that’s how you leverage your position and get a better job. Just like anyone else would do.
January 23rd, 2025 at 6:53 pm
Damn
January 23rd, 2025 at 6:54 pm
Its a dirty business…
January 23rd, 2025 at 6:55 pm
I wish failure on the Jaguars on every level possible.
January 23rd, 2025 at 6:55 pm
This is what the organization deserves for sticking with Bowles.
January 23rd, 2025 at 6:56 pm
I would have rather he not agree at all and moved on than pull this. That’s the issue I think we all have.
January 23rd, 2025 at 6:56 pm
TIME TO RALLY BEHIND BOWLES! OUR CULTURE HAS TO MEAN SOMETHING
January 23rd, 2025 at 6:57 pm
Credit to Dave Canales for doing it the right way….
This should tell you everything about Coen character….he’s a complete dirt bag.
He wont build a culture like Todd Bowles can.
January 23rd, 2025 at 6:57 pm
What a terrible way to go about it yeah nothing prevents him but what terrible character that guy has wild.
January 23rd, 2025 at 6:59 pm
JL and the Glazers totally blew it. I would wager the house that JL led them into a false sense of security. They backed the wrong horse. Pure and simple.
January 23rd, 2025 at 6:59 pm
He took out run game to a new level. That guy needs to be a head coach. Too bad it won’t be with us.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:00 pm
Ok let’s have some perspective here people you honestly believe that this offense with one of the best lines in the NFL, staff, coaches, etc don’t know what it take to be successful? Coen was a nobody as was Canales and whoever else takes this position. You’re set up for success with this personnel, this system, this scheme. Someone will come in and keep things intact. 10-7 with a first round loss ain’t nothing to write home about.😃
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:00 pm
The Bucs deserve this for backing the lesser between Coen and Bowels!
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:01 pm
Can’t blame Coen. It’s a cutthroat business. If the Billionaires can do things like this so can the millionaires. It’s a huge punch in the gut after letting our guards down but it is what it is and good for him.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:01 pm
The OC deal does mean nothing. The ghosting of the organization means everything and leaves no doubt that he’s gone. Even if the deal falls apart in Jacksonville, I don’t want him back. Buh-bye
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:01 pm
Tbbucs3 Says:
January 23rd, 2025 at 6:54 pm
Its a dirty business…
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Nope, just business and they blew it. Backed the wrong horse
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:01 pm
The OC deal does mean nothing. The ghosting of the organization means everything and leaves no doubt that he’s gone. Even if the deal falls apart in Jacksonville, I don’t want him back. Peace Out
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:03 pm
Money has ruined this sport. I seriously do not wish him any luck at all, flip flopping punk! It’s to the point I’m sick of football period. Refs the Chiefs, Goodell, and all the coach poaching that goes on. Not fun anymore
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:03 pm
Karma is a total bitch ,,,, he will fail and so he should in Jax ,,, if he runs the same plays he ran here ,, Trever will get sacked 40 times ,,, Screw this guy ,,, lets move on
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:04 pm
He’s a POS for this. Grateful for what he did for our team, but that’s a scum move to our fans, players and ownership.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:04 pm
Watch Liam make the playoffs next year. And we’ll probably be blowing up the coaching staff mid way through the season… From the Licht house to the Out house… it’s a Bucs life. Ughhh I will try and remain positive, it might take a few shots of whiskey though.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:04 pm
quickly turning from our guy…to a sleazy dude,,,
he’s probably lampin’ at shahid khan’s mansion out on the gaza strip right about now
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:04 pm
It’s not that he took the job it’s the shady and disrespectful way he did it
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:04 pm
Our organization chose a “defensive guru” head coach who can’t manage a game and couldn’t field a defense that could get off the field or force a turnover all season over the best offensive coordinator in franchise history. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Next we can trade Bucky Irving for some magic beans.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:05 pm
LEWI Says:
January 23rd, 2025 at 6:56 pm
TIME TO RALLY BEHIND BOWLES! OUR CULTURE HAS TO MEAN SOMETHING
YES!!! Get behind OUR head coach. (Like the players already are)
F COEN!!!
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:05 pm
So much hand wringing and sour grape griping. Many of us already expect 2025 to be a bust. Even myself, who has resigned myself to Bowles deserved his final shot. I wouldn’t have given it but I accepted I was not being asked. I know I’d now be offering Coen the head job in Tampa right now. The Glazers aren’t going to find a better option later.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:05 pm
Every coordinator aspires to get the big job. That’s understandable and fine, there are only 32 jobs, and you can always go back to being an OC. Not sure about *that* job (or Carolina, for that matter). Bad owners chasing the next McVay, odds aren’t in favor of ending well.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:05 pm
Apparently, I’ve been cutoff from posting. Nice. Ok, time to go.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:06 pm
Durango, if Coen ends up being mid to bad as a HC you’ve gotta end each post with “I do t know ball”
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:06 pm
McCarthy is still out there. He’s a proven winner.
Go get him and fire Bowles.
Then get a competent DC.
This doesn’t have to be a complete disaster.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:07 pm
“Nope, just business and they blew it. Backed the wrong horse”
Theres a way to do it, and this is not it…especially not returning the Bucs phone calls and lying about being in Jacksonville
Dave Canales did it the right now…Liam Coen is a scumbag.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:07 pm
Do t care that he left, I care how he left.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:07 pm
Not here to be know it all. But You get the guy in the building and don’t let him out when this is going on.” Contract in principle”…Ha. The amount of times I’ve heard that line. They freakin’ blew it! JL is going to have to answer some questions. At the end of the day it falls on the Glazers they had to be more proactive. Drop Bowles, hire Coen. Bowles has hit his ceiling you want big results you have to make bold decisions.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:07 pm
Think he’s taking the jet sweep with him?
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:08 pm
I haven’t seen an announcement yet that he’s accepted the Baguars’ job. I’ll refrain from reacting until it’s done.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:08 pm
We got fans now clamoring for Mike McCarthy…you cant make this level of stupidity up.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:09 pm
Boy it’s amazing what I’m reading. The only O coordinator we’ve had that I believed was a “genius” was Monken. Monken had crap to work with particularly the human turnover machine and a guy by the name of Peyton Barber.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:10 pm
All the Coen lovers….. there you have your Guy who most of you loved dearly after only 1 season….
He show real class…..
Pathetic human being….
Get out of town….. your word means nothing
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:11 pm
“I haven’t seen an announcement yet that he’s accepted the Baguars’ job. I’ll refrain from reacting until it’s done.”
The releationship is already fractured after this….
You think the Bucs players are gonna wanna listen to a guy who would rather not be there? Its over.
The next OC search should be underway.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:12 pm
now i’m hearing spytek just quit the raiders, and was seen walking swiftly thru the jacksonville airport…
lol…i’m only kidding people
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:12 pm
Salty arse Bucs fans some of you sound pathetic and scared. Just yesterday it was reported he wasn’t promised to be the successor right? Todd Bowles defense is pure trash and Liam knows he can do his job. He thinks jags have potential, if Bowles defense fails again which it will and he gets fired with no comparable job offer then what. I would look out for myself also he has no allegiance to Bucs after one year. The Glazers made are football stupid.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:13 pm
Guess Thad lewis is up to bat.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:13 pm
Hey, Joe, describe where it hurts you most lol
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:13 pm
Not mad that he took the HC job, just a sleazy way to go about it… enjoy working with an inept owner. Bucs should have their pick of the top OC candidates, who wouldn’t want to come here knowing the last 2 OCs were offered HC jobs?
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:14 pm
what if liam banged his head real bad after getting out if the shower, after scrubbing his nutts…fell down and is bleeding out on the bathroom floor…?
wellness check anyone…?
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:15 pm
ReenYeing Says:
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:06 pm
Durango, if Coen ends up being mid to bad as a HC you’ve gotta end each post with “I do t know ball”
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Hey Coen is no guarantee. I’ll grant you that, bro.
But Bowles has hit his ceiling. It was time to roll the dice. And aim for the stars. Players are not getting any younger.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:15 pm
And now we see hate by certain extreme zealots for the fans who praised the guy who led the best offense the team has ever seen, the best run game the team has ever seen when it was last for 2 straight years before that.
This is really ridiculous. It’s ok to have a contrary opinion. It’s why there is a forum. All of the triggered brigade needs to calm the eff down and eat some Indica gummies .
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:15 pm
Could care less about the character arguments – Parcells jilted the Bucs multiple times and was still a winner. Dungy was a saint who squandered a lot of years of prime Brooks/Sapp/Lynch. I’ll take the winner every time.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:15 pm
Maybe Chip Kelly
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:16 pm
ZZBUCS, exactly!!!
Coen is a POS human being….
Scum-bag….
I’ll take Bowles all day over trash like Coen.
You know Bowles is a decent human being.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:16 pm
So is he staying or going?
This shlt is concerning but also hilarious in a way.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:16 pm
Coen said his only regret was not sticking around to help the rams make a come back also he is a loyal guy that wants to stick around this was in one of the first videos he was in with his wired suits I guess that didn’t mean in Tampa
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:16 pm
Irish Tony: I’m with you. While I agree the overall body of work in 2024 is obviously statistically fantastic, the roster has a lot to do with that. I think being situationally cute to mask “tendencies in the red zone” cost us a few games – just as many as poor clock management, etc.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:16 pm
That is a disaster anyway you look at it.
Ouch. Not good
Go Bics
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:17 pm
Smh Coen said his only regret was not sticking around to help the rams make a come back also he is a loyal guy that wants to stick around this was in one of the first videos he was in with his wired suits I guess that didn’t mean in Tampa
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:18 pm
@ pewter power
That Puré trash defense gave us and you a súper bowl……be carefull and show some respect…
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:18 pm
This is some bulls#it.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:18 pm
Just give Thaddeus Lewis his shot. Was the wrs coach for 2 years been Bakers QB coach the last 2 years definitely knows the system and Baker + Bowles I’m sure would both be comfortable with him. If Bowles is gone after next year chances are his cordinators are as well and it’s bring in another new guy anyways. If not we’ll know Bowles promoted a coach from within and he turned into a great offensive cordinator or he fixed the defense either way who cares because it means playoffs again and potentially a Super Bowl because if Bowles doesn’t win at least 1 playoff game next year he’s should be gone and in my opinion it needs to be 2….
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:19 pm
Seriously though who would even want him back after this like he has tainted his name here FOREVER!!
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:20 pm
It is quite refreshing to see the Liam Coen “love fest” that went on all season come to a screeching hault…..
Ever care to think that maybe the reason the offense was so good was because of Mike Evans, a Franchise QB, Elite rookie running back and a great O-line?
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:21 pm
Damn why y’all worried hadn’t Bowles been the one winning you the division the last three years? All these ignorant comments it’s hate now but a couple days ago it was let him walk we’ll just find another guy to give us 30 points a game. You got your wish and you got Bowles. Bowles job was up in the air this year why should he wait around to be fired next year when a good opportunity is right there. Comments make you look real petty and butt hurt. Bowles is a dumpster fire and I would leave too just like his best friend rogers did
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:22 pm
“Just give Thaddeus Lewis his shot”
I think this will likely happen, I dont think the Bucs are gonna want to go through another outside hire….you have to provide your franchise QB with SOME level continuity for once.
#ThadforOC
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:22 pm
@Joe – Or anybody else… Can we get a list of candidates to replace this clown? I’m so pissed off by this, I’m ready to move on.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:24 pm
I hope we can get a good offensive coordinator
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:24 pm
Not Thad
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:25 pm
“Tbbucs3 Says:
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:22 pm
“Just give Thaddeus Lewis his shot”
I think this will likely happen, I dont think the Bucs are gonna want to go through another outside hire….you have to provide your franchise QB with SOME level continuity for once.
#ThadforOC”
They need someone with experience calling plays – he has none. Don’t need another Byron Leftwich OJT situation right now.
Frank Reich
Doug Pederson
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:26 pm
Lokog Says:
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:24 pm
I hope we can get a good offensive coordinator
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I hope we can get a good defensive coordinator.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:26 pm
If you want continuity, Nick Caley (rams) was also on staff when Mayfield was there.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:26 pm
General Patton slap !
This is just speculation hyped up by a desperate J’Ville sports hack!
Cool your jets!
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:27 pm
This is really ridiculous. It’s ok to have a contrary opinion. It’s why there is a forum. All of the triggered brigade needs to calm the eff down and eat some Indica gummies —-
haha. We are all feeling the pain, right now. Forum was really off the rails last couple of days. Some people thought I kicked their dog. 😉
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:27 pm
Dear Liam Coen. You’re trash. You’re going to be hated by Bucs fans until you die. Just like Bill Parcells. Except you’re going to fail because you have no character. TRASH
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:28 pm
Tbbucs3 Says:
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:22 pm
“Just give Thaddeus Lewis his shot”
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Is Thaddeus a minority? If so and the offense carries us again to a 9 win season while boat anchor Bowles looks stoic on the sidelines maybe the Bucs will keep Bowles for another year and we will at least get compensation when Taddeus leaves.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:28 pm
Coen is doing whats best for himeself………..using leverage….blah blah blah.
Whatever im not buthurt over it……….but if he did this………..I wish him complete failure. Why would i want him to succeed?
Anyways move on………maybe Pete Carroll as an OC? Maybe Mike Mcarthy taking over for bowles………..I feel for Baker……….the guy cannot get consistancy.
This is why you have to have your head coach as an offensive genius……..Look at the last superbowls
2023 Reid Mahommes
2022 Reid Mahommes
2021 Mcveigh Stafford
2020 Arians Brady
2019 Reid Mahomms
2018 Brady
2017 Petersen Foles
2016 Brady
2015 Manning Kubiak
2014 Brady
2013 Carrol Wilson
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:33 pm
Wishing Coen bad luck is not going to help the Bucs. The good guys have some serious work in front of them. They got at least a couple of Defensive coaches out there interviewing. Coaching staff is in full meltdown mode right now.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:33 pm
“This is why you have to have your head coach as an offensive genius……..Look at the last superbowls”
Ding ding ding!!!
Stop hiring defensive head coaches! Defensive coordinators are easier to replace (if/when poached). Offensive guys leaving and you get this crap. As soon as your offense takes off, they get poached and you start over.
And calling for Thad Lewis? You all are nuts. They guy, as far as anyone knows, has never called plays. Ever. That’s a bad bet. Perhaps if he’d been in Coen’s system longer than one year.
Better off getting an experienced OC like Frank Reich or Doug Pederson.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:35 pm
Jason Licht is going to have some serious explaining to do. But at the end of the day the Glazers were caught flatfooted. Thanks to JL. Bet on it.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:47 pm
“Durango 95 Says:
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:35 pm
Jason Licht is going to have some serious explaining to do. But at the end of the day the Glazers were caught flatfooted. Thanks to JL. Bet on it.”
How the hell do you blame this on Licht? Coen could have signed the contract, had a party celebrating it and STILL bolted for Jax, and there isn’t a damn thing Licht or the Glazers could do to stop it.
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:57 pm
BallHawk75 Says:
January 23rd, 2025 at 7:06 pm
McCarthy is still out there. He’s a proven winner.
.583 w/l with dallas
And cmon. Is somebody really crying about hate being directed at them because they supported Liam? It is only because some of us have been listening to you guys berate 1 man, not because you supported somebody, that anybody would take pleasure in your dream boy moving on and the accompanied freak out from some of the commenters here.
Awwww, poor thing. Is him getting twiggered. Have another shot of liquor troll 🤣
I supported Liam too. So do the other posters you attempt to bicker with constantly.
Somebody posted just recently something to the effect of …. I love watching the squalid wallow in their misery….. Not a direct quote but I can find it if you won’t to argue about it.
Careful, “you reap what you sow”.
January 23rd, 2025 at 8:14 pm
At least we have Todd Bowles’ culture to lean on.
– consistently coming out flat and unprepared
– only won one game all season when opponents scored first
– annual 4 game losing streaks
– defensive assistants that he’s known for years leaving for lateral positions
– one of the softest tackling defenses in the league
– constant communication errors
– zero development in pass rushers
– OCs that clearly have no loyalty
– zero wins in prime time games this year
– so test TC in the league, and rewards team with extra days off after losing
Man he’s built a strong culture
January 23rd, 2025 at 8:33 pm
I guess Bowles better pull another rabbit out of his hat to land another offensive coordinator that knows what he is doing. Not sure if he can do it again for a third time but hope he does. We have a talented offense and even though it would take awhile to learn another new offensive system we could still have a very potent offense even with an average OC. This is a punch right in the crotch.
January 23rd, 2025 at 8:40 pm
You can bet the players are burning up the horns. Baker, ME13 and krewe including CG14 are like what the h3ll?? Even if untrue, Coen’s credibility with this team is taking a MAJOR hit. He’s an idiot, too. I don’t give a rat’s butt if it’s biznizz or not. This didn’t even go down during Culverhouse.
January 23rd, 2025 at 9:56 pm
Of course the deal with the Bucs means nothing. I pointed this out all yesterday – there is no deal you can sign that keeps someone from taking a promotion to head coach. It’s why I was pointing out how concerning it was that the Jags fired their GM right after news came out that Coen was returning to Tampa – that they can just make anything run at him.
January 23rd, 2025 at 11:18 pm
He goes to JAX, his stock will fall so far and he will be right back as as an underling, Lawrence is toast Meyer ruined him and there’s no return JAX is holding him because it’s all they have. If Coen wants to go from winning to losing let him be
January 24th, 2025 at 8:33 am
True that, orlbucfan. Coen not only double-crossed the owners, he double-crossed the players that thought he was staying. Not good optics for Coen going forward.
January 24th, 2025 at 11:44 am
Let’s promote in-house. I am more concerned how we lost 4 games last season (including the playoff game) with a last second field goal.
January 24th, 2025 at 2:18 pm
Honestly I would have left the bucs if I were him too. Bucs disrespected him by not making him head coach after the season ended. Basically told him “we like you, but not enough to make you head coach. But hey you can come back and work under the man who’s job you saved.” He did it the wrong way, but I can’t blame him for leaving.
January 25th, 2025 at 12:17 am
Seriously look out GM built a good team and Bowles has his flaws but honestly Coen was a better play caller but the talent on field executes the plays if we didn’t have the talent we wouldn’t have done what we did this season we still get more pieces to continue to grow and Defense has to many needs to worry about when Caneles left everyone is we are toast. Well GM and coach went out and found there guy and I have faith they will do it again. I would like Bowles to go out get a new OC and a Real DC and let them run the D
January 25th, 2025 at 4:30 pm
Todd, they say the third time is a charm so use your magic on the new OC and go win a Superbowl!!!