The Jets And Liam Coen
December 26th, 2024
Bucs co-owner Ed Glazer with Jets owner Woody Johnson.
The drumbeat for Liam Coen is getting louder outside Tampa.
The Buccaneers’ playcaller is a hot head coaching name, one that’s found its way to the mess of an organization that is the New York Jets and their disgusted fans.
Has it really been 14 years since Rex Ryan had the Jets in the AFC championship game in back-to-back seasons? The Jets haven’t been in the postseason since that 2010 campaign and have just one winning record in those 14 seasons (Todd Bowles, 2015).
Not only is New York sports media legend Mike Francesa, “The Pope,” barking for weeks that the Jets should hire Coen, NFL Network insider and Good Morning Football co-host Peter Schrager was on the air recently referencing how Jets and Bears fans are pounding a drum for Coen.
Of course, the Jets don’t know who their general manager or 2025 quarterback will be, but that hasn’t stunted cries for Coen.
Interesting to Joe was longtime Tampa multimedia czar J.P. Peterson appearing on Good Morning Football last week and insisting to the panel that Coen will stay in Tampa for the 2025 season. He was adamant that Team Glazer will make sure it happens.
Hot take? Joe has no clue, but Peterson said on those NFL Network airwaves that Buccaneers business front man Brian Ford, officially the team chief operating officer, gave him a jersey to wear for the appearance. So perhaps Peterson has fresh intel.
Joe wrote long ago that Team Glazer should pay Coen not to interview for a head coaching job in the 2025 hiring cyle. Coen has to have a price. What goes down doesn’t have to be made public.
Of course, that assumes Todd Bowles is the Bucs’ head coach next season, a thought that troubles a lot of Bucs fans on this fine day after Christmas.
December 26th, 2024 at 4:18 pm
Anyone taking a coaching job with the Jets or Bears are just asking career ending job/decision…… those two franchises are hopeless due to incompetent owners.
December 26th, 2024 at 4:25 pm
TheBucsAnthem Says:
Jets or Bears are career ending job/decision
^^^^
Not sure I agree on the Bears, but history is on your side. I’d add NYG, Raiders, Cleveland, and Dallas to your list.
If you’re a hot name in the coaching world, what’s the harm in holding out a year or two?
December 26th, 2024 at 4:30 pm
Fire Bowles. Make Coen interim HC.
Won’t happen, of course.
December 26th, 2024 at 4:31 pm
If Coen becomes the head coach, who could we get as OC &DC?
December 26th, 2024 at 4:34 pm
Woody just did some firing, and it showed that coaching wasn’t the problem. I don’t think Coen would chance taking a job with the Jets. Too many uncertainties. Seems like the Glazers are good owners to work for. it’s chill without drama.
December 26th, 2024 at 4:35 pm
Coen would be the OC. As for DC, as long as the DC isn’t named Smith or Bowles, I’m happy.
December 26th, 2024 at 4:41 pm
If he takes another job ok but he’s a fool if he works for that owner.
December 26th, 2024 at 4:49 pm
This would be an awful move for Coen. He’s only 39. There’s better jobs this year or later. The Patriots are my dark horse pick if he leaves. From the area, grew up liking the team, Drake Maye looks good, and they got a ton of cap space
December 26th, 2024 at 4:53 pm
We’re screwed if we stick with Bowles and lose Coen.
December 26th, 2024 at 5:03 pm
LC is under contract. All the Glazers is have to do is say ‘no’ and he can’t interview for another team. Of course, to make him feel better they could give him a bonus pay. Easy peasy and not too sleazy.
December 26th, 2024 at 5:04 pm
Are you kidding me?! The last things the jets need is a first year head coach….
December 26th, 2024 at 5:06 pm
26-26
This nightmare must end.
If the Panthers win on Sunday, fore Bowles after the game.
Coen can be the interim HC for one game.
Sign him in the offseason and Bowles can go kick rocks.
December 26th, 2024 at 5:06 pm
*Fire
December 26th, 2024 at 5:10 pm
I don’t care if Todd’s the HC. I think he is fine as a HC, good organizer, good motivator, good leader, good game time level headed approach on the sode lines. But he shouldn’t be the D Coordinator. His D isnt fresh. It isnt accesible to the majority of his players. D cood needs to be a fresh face, new ideas. If Todd can’t accept that or doesn’t want to accept that he can go.
December 26th, 2024 at 5:16 pm
Even if he doesn’t leave THIS year, Todd is getting up there. Best plan is pay Liam enough not to leave, promise him he’s the HC in a year or 3 when Todd retires. There are worse organizations than the Bucs, and worse cities than Tampa
December 26th, 2024 at 5:17 pm
This is insanity to even consider letting Liam Coen leave this franchise to be the head coach of another franchise.
Bucs have the 3rd ranked offense in the NFL and the 25th ranked defense.
December 26th, 2024 at 5:18 pm
My desire for head coach: Pete Carroll.
December 26th, 2024 at 5:20 pm
pay him what coach makes…and make him head coach in waiting…
it’s that simple…
bowles is not on the hot seat, but he’s def playin’ musical chairs…lol
December 26th, 2024 at 5:30 pm
Agree with Adam and have a gut feeling that will be the structure of a deal for Coen this offseason. Also think the owners and Jason are going to give Bowles and ultimatum: hire new defensive coaches and a defensive play caller or move on
December 26th, 2024 at 5:31 pm
For Bowles it’s win the South – or walk the plank
December 26th, 2024 at 5:40 pm
Cohen, along with several members of our front office(Greenberg, Spytek, and whatever underlings are loyal to them) are going to the Jets. It’s rough but hopefully Licht has enough solid guys to replace them.
December 26th, 2024 at 6:05 pm
Assistant head coach w head coach money ,,, Bowles gets this season and next (as long a he hires a real DC) and then Coen takes over the 26 season when Bowles retires gracefully
December 26th, 2024 at 6:09 pm
Why keep Bowels and make him hire a DC? Then he can focus on telling DC to play soft and call time outs. What does that solve?
The only thing that solves the problem is outside of the back door.
December 26th, 2024 at 6:09 pm
Sorry I should have said Bowles retires gracefully and moves with BA to the front office ,,, everyone is happy
December 26th, 2024 at 6:50 pm
Ocala: “Bucs have the 3rd ranked offense in the NFL and the 25th ranked defense.”
Isn’t that a fascinating statistic? I’m usually against citation of stats, but this one shows a lot. It resonates.
Where have the draft resources been spent that last several years? On a Defense that can’t get it together. The Offense thrives under a guy who wore out his welcome in two cities. With mid to late picks on the OL. Without the best a lot WR the team has ever had and missing Evans for weeks.
You tell me: is it Coen?
The Glazers saw something in Raheem, and they were not willing to let him go. Did they get it wrong? Yes.
But the point is, if they believe in Coen, then they will not let him go.
Rumors of Bowles’ retirement started somewhere.
December 26th, 2024 at 7:17 pm
Glazers need to be bold and make Cohen the HC and FIRE Clueless Todd.
December 26th, 2024 at 7:32 pm
is liam even ready to be a head coach…it’s a very different job than being an OC…
does he even want to control the defense as well…?
a lot to think about…you just don’t become head coach and everything remains status quo…
is he ready, or are a couple more years as OC a perfect scenario for him to then glide into the HC spot…and then pass off play calling duties to a perfect underling who keeps the offense running like a well oiled machine
December 26th, 2024 at 7:33 pm
If the team lets Coen leave and bring Todd back for another mediocre season or worse they get what they deserve
December 26th, 2024 at 7:33 pm
SlyPirate, I surely hope and pray that Coen sees things the way you do. How we keep him and lose Bowles is a question.
December 26th, 2024 at 7:39 pm
I’d like to see the Bucs keep Bowles and Cohen in their current roles and hire a full-time DC
December 26th, 2024 at 7:39 pm
Coen. lol
December 26th, 2024 at 7:51 pm
Oh, this conversation is exhausting. JBF is going to get a ton of mileage out of this banter.
Let me start by saying, and I’ll say it also for the Dallas game we just lost. IF WE LOSE THESE NEXT 2 GAMES, IT WILL BE BECAUSE OF OUR OFFENSE. Stop circling around and blaming Bowles for everything. The strength of this team is the offense. I don’t care if the defense struggled for 3/4 of a football game. When your defense finally steps up, and stops Dallas in their last 4 possessions, giving up ZERO points, and all the offense comes away with is 7 pts against a defense that isn’t ranked very well, it’s on the offense for why we lost the game. STOP BLAMING BOWLES for a timeout that was taken in the first half, because somehow if Dallas doesn’t get that damn field goal, we win 24-23, what a joke. That’s not football, everything changes with every point scored. This is a stubborn, spoiled hateful fanbase that knows everything, and thinks anything is better than what we have now. Oh, and every OC and DC from every top team can’t wait to come to Tampa, I’m sure there’s several of you that believe that if we elevate Coen to HC, that maybe we get Flores from the Vikings in a parallel move to be our DC, right? Aaron Glenn from the Lions? He too will come over in a parallel move…smh. We will be getting a positional coach, someone that has never called entire season as a defensive coordinator at the NFL level. Most likely he will have to fill his entire squad with other positional coaches. There’s an argument to be made that DC and OC coordinators have to be developed from somewhere, but this is NOT the time to do this in Tampa’s history. We are on the cusp of making a serious run, no not this season, but 2025 Licht is going to dig into those pockets, and we are going to reload on defense. This org knows time is ticking on our aging veterans, and the expiring rookie contracts from 3 to 4 years ago. It’s time to go all in, and experimenting with a new DC can be worse than what you’ve seen from Bowles. Look to the 10 years prior to Arians and Bowles showing up in Tampa. We weren’t talentless on defense, and we had some dreadful years.
December 26th, 2024 at 8:26 pm
Some of you old white men are making the rest of us old white men look bad 🙄
December 26th, 2024 at 8:51 pm
Bowles needs to move into a CEO capacity as HC. Hire a DC from the outside.
December 26th, 2024 at 9:11 pm
🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 todd
December 26th, 2024 at 10:03 pm
Some good points by many on here. I too want Bowles gone but the move has to be done with caution. Is Coen ready to be a head coach. I don’t know nor does anyone. But risking him leaving to go somewhere else is a big risk that could really hurt this team. I want Coen to stay as OC. Wanted Belechik as head coach but knew the reality of that happening was slim to none. Bowles is never going to put us over the top. It’s just a fact. He’s a great guy but a mediocre head coach at best and we won’t ever win more than 10 games with him in that position. His ignorance toward an edge rusher just baffles me. If this team had one or two great ones imho they would be damn near unbeatable. But his inability to develop just one and his soft zone concepts will forever hold this team back.
December 26th, 2024 at 10:17 pm
Maybe it’s the spirit of the holidays but I find myself wondering if there is something wrong with us as a fan base (and Joe?) if we constantly trash a coach that is one game away from a division title?
December 26th, 2024 at 10:36 pm
Nothing wrong with us B. We just know if we were in any other division we’d be mock drafting right now. Been this way for 3 years
December 26th, 2024 at 10:39 pm
Simple: If the Bucs win the division and host a playoff game, Bowles deserves to return next year. Its mind boggling that people would want him fired. Pretty disgusting actually. The amount of injuries and the difficult schedule that we faced this year make winning the division even more impressive. Coen will have his offers, but I hope he pulls a Ben Johnson and sees that the grass isn’t always greener elsewhere. Let Todd make his decision on whether he wants to return or hang it up. If he leaves, it goes to Coen.
December 26th, 2024 at 10:49 pm
Aircasted: Bowles isn’t giving up this gig ever. He will have to be fired. Dude is too stubborn and knows this is his last shot in the NFL cause no one else wants him.
December 26th, 2024 at 11:02 pm
Glazers believed in Raheem and didn’t let him walk , they believed in Dirk cutter with Jameis and made him the HC. Neither worked. The Bucs aren’t turning the keys over to an unknown at the head spot.
If Cohen goes because he’s the hot name then he has the right too. there are only so many HC jobs. If you don’t take the shot when you can you could end up like Byron Leftwich. He was too good for Jax then just a year later he’s out of the league.
To me you offer Cohen more cash to stay as OC. If its money Cohen stays and if he wants power then he will leave. I hope he stays
December 26th, 2024 at 11:09 pm
That’s a lot of IF’S based on a hell of a long time ago. We’re not going to hire Liam Coen because it didn’t work out before. Oh let’s not forget the GM and talent wasn’t good enough to give those guys a chance.
December 26th, 2024 at 11:58 pm
Anyone thinking Bowles should stay needs a ct scan.
Just look at the record. 26-26.
That was earned, not an accident.
It will only get worse if he stays and Coen leaves.
The Glazers are on the clock.
December 27th, 2024 at 2:37 am
Not gonna happen. Either Bowles is gone in 2025 or I am. I like him a lot personally and I wanted him to succeed, but losing the must win game to Dallas showed that he is not going to succeed and we cannot afford to squander this Super Bowl window that is opening for us. The Bucs stumbled into a hot new coach in Liam Coen and they need to hire him as the next HC. If they let him leave in order to retain Bowles, then I’m not going to waste my time watching.
December 27th, 2024 at 4:26 am
It comes down to these last 2 games.
– Bucs lose both, end up 8-9, 2nd in the division, Bowles is fired
– Bucs split, end up 9-8 again, 2nd in the division, Bowles is fired
– Bucs split, end up 9-8 again, win the division, Bowles is HC
– Bucs win both, end up 10-7, win or lose division, Bowles is HC
The Glazers will not fire him if he wins 10 games or wins the division unless the playoffs are an embarrassment. He’s improved a little every year and won the division 3 years in a row during a re-build of the team. He will get another year if the Bucs win the division.
Let me ask a question. If the Bucs had the same record with all of the injuries on defense, but our defense was ranked 14th instead of 25th, would you want to keep Bowles?
December 27th, 2024 at 7:18 am
Give Coen head coach money and tell him he has the inside track to take over once Bowles retires. He should definitely steer clear of the Jets.
December 27th, 2024 at 7:52 am
Everyone said the same thing about Canales working for Tepper and we all see how that’s working