Kyle Shanahan Has Shown A Read On Todd Bowles’ Defenses
November 7th, 2024One thing almost certain in the NFL is that Sean Peyton knows how to put points on the board facing a Todd Bowles defense.
There’s another offensive mind that also appears to have a good read on Bowles’ defenses. That would be Kyle Shanahan.
The big cheese of the 49ers, Shanahan has had strong success as a play-caller (and head coach) facing Bowles.
Here are the head-to-head matchups between Shanahan and Bowles. Bowles teams’ records against a Shanahan offense are a combined 0-4.
2012: (PHI interim DC): Loss, 31-6
2019: (Bucs DC): Loss, 31-17
2022: (Bucs HC/DC): Loss, 35-7
2023: (Bucs HC/DC): Loss, 27-14
Props to Evan Closky of WTSP-TV Channel 10 for the research.
This is not good. So the Bucs better bank on scoring 30 points Sunday against the 49ers if they want to have a realistic shot of winning.
In five of the first seven games, the Bucs scored at least 30 points. Without the services of Mike Evans and Chris Godwin the past two weeks, the Bucs averaged 25 points a game.
Joe isn’t liking this math.
Todd Bowles vs. Kyle Shanahan:
2012 (interim DC in PHI): Loss, 31-6
2019 (Bucs DC): Loss, 31-17
2022 (Bucs HC/DC): Loss, 35-7
2023 (Bucs HC/DC): Loss, 27-14 pic.twitter.com/BCvjJJ8574— Evan Closky (@ECloskyWTSP) November 7, 2024
November 7th, 2024 at 9:25 am
Todd Bowles proved he is not capable of coaching a team to a super bowl when he didn’t go for two. He is mr 500 or aka Jeff Fisher.
November 7th, 2024 at 9:31 am
Todd Bowles keeps doing the same thing over and over, which is why the best offensive minds outcoach him regularly.
November 7th, 2024 at 9:33 am
what are you talking about just Shanahan joe? Every coach has a read on our defense! Its boring, docile, and flaccid….just like our HC!
November 7th, 2024 at 9:39 am
When all of your OLBs have 2 sacks or less something is up. It’s really gotten old at this point.
November 7th, 2024 at 9:39 am
There isn’t a DC in this league that can’t shred Clueless Todd’s defense.
November 7th, 2024 at 9:48 am
If Todd Bowles is intelligent and I’m not saying he isn’t, then he should learn from his mistakes. He continues to make the same play calling and time management mistakes. Why ? Does he just not learn ? Does he not realize his past mistakes ? There were times last year when he showed courage and belief in his players to make plays on 4th down and goal line situations and was successful. This was a change from his past behavior and many of us were convinced he was growing as a head coach. Has he suddenly lost confidence in himself ? Is he being manipulated and if so, why ?
I reiterate, his words after an inexplicable and epic collapse were “I had nothing to do with that”.
November 7th, 2024 at 9:52 am
Another team that embarrasses his defense. Niners were on a bye and had extra time to prepare as if they needed it
November 7th, 2024 at 10:05 am
It seems to me that Bowles is being set up for failure. I smell a hint of Machiavelli and the end justifies the means.
November 7th, 2024 at 10:11 am
The saying that history repeats itself may apply. First it was B.A. and the second time it may be B.B.
November 7th, 2024 at 10:21 am
what defense?
November 7th, 2024 at 10:24 am
purdy just count to three and throw it over the middle and 500yds later we’re 4-6
November 7th, 2024 at 10:24 am
So you’re saying we’re due for a win… LOL
November 7th, 2024 at 10:36 am
If we can just keep KITTLE under 20 catches over the middle we will be fine!!!! Play some defense guys, bring back that magic, Back in the early days mid season 49er victories always boasted us for the rest of the year… it’s do or die!!! Go Bucs
November 7th, 2024 at 10:37 am
It will be a miracle if the Bucs’ D does not get boat raced on Sunday, especially if CMC starts. If he does, he could get 2 TDs as will Kittle. Unless Baker and the boys play a perfect game, it could be a blowout and if Baker keeps it close, you know Bowles D will choke in the end…… With a loss, the season is likely over given that the Bucs will be 4-6 and behind so many teams for a wild card spot as it is doubtful they could catch either Washington or Philly, The Pack and Vikings and whomever is the 2nd place team in the NFC West. The only question will be when Bowles gets launched unless the Bucs pull the massive upset.
November 7th, 2024 at 10:37 am
Just like Monday. The team’s only hope is winning a shootout with the offense. Not a great look for a defensive coach. Mike Tomlin should be coach of the year. He’s winning with a terrible roster. We have the opposite.
November 7th, 2024 at 10:40 am
Yeah it’s not ideal when you have a defensive head coach and his scheme has a glaring weakness against the two hottest offensive schemes in the NFL…the Shanahan and McVay systems. Especially not ideal when many of your top NFC competitors are running those systems.
November 7th, 2024 at 10:51 am
Todd Bowles is a dinosaur. Every good offensive coordinator has him figured out.. unfortunately Todd hasn’t figured anything out.
November 7th, 2024 at 11:06 am
Todd never changes his base defense and our opponents know it. That’s ok if you have a monster D line and hard hitting LBs that can also cover. The soft zone works because all the pressure comes up front, but when no pressure the QBs just take whatever the defense gives them. Either Todd is stubborn or the talent level on the defense is very low. In this case both. Bucs only have 4 talented starters on the D. Jason made some bets on bad players and this will need to be corrected in the off season. Todd needs to be gone also.
November 7th, 2024 at 11:51 am
It sure is odd to me that Travis Kelce (on his podcast with Jason) raved about what a good defense the Bucs had, against the Chiefs. On the other side, without Chris and Mike in the game I bet if we had gone for two and missed you all would be mewling at that.
November 7th, 2024 at 11:55 am
If the Bucs were to squeak out a win over the Chiefs or 49’s, it would have been the Chiefs…given their injuries and average performance. We just can’t defend the middle of the field…our offense has to outperform whatever team we are playing offense. We are not going to keep any team from scoring. I predict that the 7 remaining qb’s we face will have their best stats of the year or even in their career. But we will need Baker and his new receiving corps and our RB’s to pull the load.
November 7th, 2024 at 12:21 pm
He’s going to get booed by fans with another loss at home. Every year he gets in these ruts that require a massive comeback…..only to reach 9-8, fans are tired of watching him waste season after season.
November 7th, 2024 at 12:53 pm
Anybody who says the Steelers have a terrible roster doesn’t know anything about football!!The Steelers have big, physical football players that impose their will on teams( they have an identity) Let’s just say the Bucs are built the opposite
November 7th, 2024 at 2:42 pm
We should match up with San Fran better than against KC. Sucks that they are coming off a bye week and we’re on a short one but it is what it is. If we can control their run game I think we stomp their butts.
Not concerned with past games…. This is a new team, new year
November 7th, 2024 at 2:52 pm
WHAT MAKES THIS EVEN CRAZIER …
The Bucs have the #2 offense in the NFC and #4 in the NFL.
The other top offenses are winning their divisions.
November 7th, 2024 at 3:06 pm
75 % ZONE!!! EFFFING STOP IT TODD!!!!!
November 7th, 2024 at 4:01 pm
I don’t care as much about the weak 2 point conversion decision as I do about Bowels playing zone more than any other team in the NFL. It’s the soft a$$ pass defense and no pass rush at all unless he blitzes that is the problem. If your corners can’t play man to man and bump the receivers off the line then that is on Bowels as well as Licht. I think they can, but Bowels is too afraid the ball goes over their head.
Fire Bowels and hire Liam on a short term contract. Liam will be a head coach next year somewhere. We cannot lose the best offensive coordinator we’ve ever had when you consider the time, players and injuries. Losing Liam will set this organization back worse than losing Doug Williams!
November 7th, 2024 at 4:46 pm
I will be putting some serious money on San Fran.
We are going to get blown out at home.
I am going to Hammer an inflated spread -10 +155 easy money.
Brock Purdy will carve our defense up
Facts are Facts we do not have the defense master mind to stop anyone.
November 7th, 2024 at 9:25 pm
So Kyle is like everyone else this season. Take LovieII and beat him like a cheap piñata.
November 7th, 2024 at 10:36 pm
Bowels biggest tell. . . . . .
his defense is on the field
November 8th, 2024 at 11:53 am
Literally just asking myself when the last time we best the 9ers was… Not with Bowles which is sad…