Defending Todd Bowles
November 12th, 2024
Ex-Buc defends Todd Bowles.
Joe’s not the go-to guy to defend the 2024 Todd Bowles Buccaneers.
It would be a different story if the defense, his defense, wasn’t getting carved up regularly.
The Bucs rank 25th in yards allowed per pass and 27th in yards per carry allowed. That’s a brutal combination. Opposing QBs are completing nearly 69 percent of their passes. The talent should be/is better than that.
Talk to Joe about Bowles if/when the defense tightens up a bit after the bye week and the Bucs get back to .500.
Former Bucs guard Ian Beckles (1990-1996) is not in Joe’s camp. The Chamberlain High School offensive line coach is not throwing a fat pile of blame at Bowles for the Bucs’ 4-6 record.
Beckles appeared on The Jay Recher Podcast yesterday.
“I’m not absolving Todd Bowles of anything,” Beckles said. “Ok, When Todd Bowles’ defense is playing well, it’s not his defensive calls, it’s his personnel.”
“… If I ask you who’s our best pass rusher, if I ask you who’s our shutdown corner, if I ask you who’s our shutdown linebacker, those are going to be very hard questions to answer. When you go back to the years that the Buccaneers were good defensively, you could easily answer all those questions.
“Todd Bowles can only be as good as the personnel put in front of him; some of that’s [on] him, some of that is Jason Licht. … The Buccaneers aren’t good everywhere right now. If you put Mike Evans in there, if you put Chris Godwin in there, we’re a different football team. Period.
“We don’t have them right now and I think Todd Bowles is doing a pretty good job off staying in some of these football games that could have went either way with the ball bouncing a different way.”
Joe realizes lots of Bucs fans are ready to throw Bowles overboard. Joe’s not there. But Bowles must improve the defense and grind out Ws against garbage teams with bad quarterback play.
If the Bucs can’t do that, well, then what’s the point?
November 12th, 2024 at 2:11 pm
There is no defense for this career loser.
November 12th, 2024 at 2:14 pm
I’m basically in the same place I was last year. Firing him mid-season accomplishes nothing. He has 7 games and after the 17th game I will have an opinion if he saved his job for another year.
But if he does, he walks into next year sitting on a hot seat in the middle of a thin ice frozen bay.
November 12th, 2024 at 2:17 pm
The guy can’t coach I don’t want to hear about injuries this and that every year there’s an excuse for this terrible coach ! The bottom line is the defense sucks get rid of him asap
November 12th, 2024 at 2:26 pm
As I said in a prior post, he needs to relinquish his DC responsibilities and just concentrate on his head coaching job. Get a young defensive-minded coach to bring the team into the modern NFL that has left Bowles in the dust. He’s the only HC in the NFL that is also the DC.
November 12th, 2024 at 2:26 pm
Firing him mid-season give you a head start on the Coen sweepstakes. Bruce may not be happy though
November 12th, 2024 at 2:31 pm
Couldn’t agree more. I think he needs to swallow his pride and accept he can’t do both. Needs to focus on being the HC, he can still be the defensive guy, but clearly something needs to change.
November 12th, 2024 at 2:31 pm
If the owners have made up their mind that bowels was a massive mistake, keeping him the rest of the season is moot….
Give someone a chance these next few weeks to go through growing pains and possibly go into next season with some experience as to what they are doing… If not then get a new guy…
Bowels is who we know him to be, an atrocious choice as HC!
November 12th, 2024 at 2:32 pm
Got nothin against Bowles. But his team is losing because His Defense is failing. And since he is suppose to be a Defensive specialist, this is inexcusable. The season is shot. Either fire Bowles or make him get a DC.
November 12th, 2024 at 2:35 pm
The offense succeeds despite not having Godwin or Evans. The defense looks bad with or without its starters.
I’d buy the personnel excuse if this team didn’t trade Carlton Davis and let Devin White walk. Not saying those were bad calls, but obviously Bowles and Licht thought doing so would improve the defense.
It’s a coaching issue. It’s clock management. It’s decisions being made in-game. Maybe Bowles turns it around. I doubt it
November 12th, 2024 at 2:35 pm
More pro Bowles propaganda hogwash. Let’s set aside they don’t have the right personal but I’m sure Bowles was very instrumental in getting the players he has but let’s let that slide. No mention…not one…of his endless decisions that have cost this team victories and total lack of any time management abilities. But yes let’s ra-ra that we can beat up some bottom dwelling teams. I’m sure they have us circled on their schedules as well. I don’t care how much you polish this turd he’s still a turd.
November 12th, 2024 at 2:40 pm
Time for the Big Movement of the Bucs’ Bowels.
November 12th, 2024 at 2:41 pm
His scheme is bad but DCs can’t adjust or scheme things up like OCs can. The rules are the rules and that’s why you don’t get a defensive HC. Because a defense is only as good as its personnel, unlike offense.
80% of offensive success is dictated by the OC.
80% of defensive success is dictated by the GM.
That’s the modern NFL
November 12th, 2024 at 2:46 pm
I hate losing but I hate the losing mindset of a Todd Blows coached team even more. While I would love to see them win out and get into the playoffs I would not mind only winning 2 more games and ridding ourselves of the Arians friends and former players coaching staff and getting a staff in here who coaches to win games.
November 12th, 2024 at 2:47 pm
If Bowles wasn’t the defensive coordinator, who thinks everyone would be onboard with firing the defensive coordinator? The offense, with its key injuries, has been good enough to beat some very good teams. The defense has let those games get away. If you won’t fire Bowles for the defensive failures of this team, at least make him hand over the defensive play calling to someone else.
November 12th, 2024 at 2:54 pm
@Joe
“When we argue for our limitations, we get to keep them.” – Evelyn Waugh
As long as we keep the scarecrow employed as HC, plan on being sad and drunk on Sundays more often than happy and drunk.
I’m sure as a person I would probably like Todd Bowles. Actually seems like a stand up guy.
But he did not earn his spot. It was handed to him. His attitude reflects that.
No intensity, no victory.
November 12th, 2024 at 2:54 pm
We do not know the talent level of the defense because Bowles won’t give half the players a shot.
Funny how the ball always bounces Andy Reid’s way, but not ever Todd Bowles’ way.
November 12th, 2024 at 2:57 pm
He doesn’t have the players? David, Vea, Kancey, Winfield, Smith, Whitehead, Hall, YaYa, JTS, no players on defense? These are some top picks, former pro bowlers, superbowl players. Same two safeties when we won it all, now one is the highest paid DB in football. I’m sure Todd wanted these picks. Don’t want to hear he doesn’t have the players, that’s total B.S.. Yeah there’s some stink on the field like Britt, but Todd has no one ready to replace him? That sounds like bad coaching to this Joe. No more excuses, get better after the bye, or get gone after the season.
November 12th, 2024 at 3:08 pm
Ok fine. His defense can’t stop anyone. The offense is the offense bc of Coen not him. His defense and play calling is hurting this team. Having mccaffrey being guarded by Nelson is stupid. Not drafting pass rusher or telling Jason hey i need edge rush is a problem. Who has he developed. Winfield is regressing. Whitehead got worse. Yaya got worse in year two….do u see a pattern.
November 12th, 2024 at 3:12 pm
He has a part to blame to….Specially on poor decision making…
But there are a couple of things he is not to blame
1-Depth of the roster….There is no LB, you just have one who’s 34 years old, and not playing very good, No depth on WR, suddenly there is no one to throw the ball, not called Otton, no pass rush at all, and don’t tell me Yaya is a beast because he is not. Not to name CB, don’t tell me Mc Callum is a beast because he is the vey irregular.
2- Safetys playing like rubbish…..That’s not entirely on the coach…
3- Kancey is not playing on the level we think he can….
Again, I am not saying Bowles is a great coach because he is not, I am just saying he is being hardly criticized of thing he is not responsible for….That’s all I am saying…………
November 12th, 2024 at 3:14 pm
I am same spot as Drunk Bucs Fan up there. I was in this same spot last year. Bowles did enough by seasons end or the Bucs accomplished enough by seasons end that I was ok with him coming back. Tougher sell this season regardless of how we finish.
The defense being terrible is one thing, I don’t blame Bowles for injuries to key players, although there is still enough to work with and not be this bad imo.
The game management, clock/timeout usage and conservative play calling is another thing and it is the reason he shouldn’t be the HC heading into 2025. He is stubborn, he is too mild mannered when the team is blowing it, he has no urgency. These last 5 games should be a gift to a HC, outside expectations are so low that the diehard fans like us are predicting a 1-4 or 2-3 run, and he proved us right by having no creativity and no balls. Get your foot on the gas or get in the back seat and that’s where Todd is headed.
November 12th, 2024 at 3:17 pm
Stop dropping Vea and Kancey into coverage!
Purdy drops back “oh sh*t, got nothing… wait the 350 lb nose tackle is vacating the middle and running down field! Guess I will just run through his open hole for 10.”
November 12th, 2024 at 3:19 pm
Bucs currently are thin at CB , middle linebacker and edge rusher.
They don’t have anyA level receivers, though Otton is taking advantage of his opportunities and playing well.
But they play hard, don’t quit and make the games interesting and competitive.
Another good draft and a quality free agent or 2 and Bucs will be contenders- provided they add an Edge Rusher and Middle Linebacker who can make plays
November 12th, 2024 at 3:21 pm
@Joe
Joe’s not saying Bowles isn’t in trouble. His team has badly underperformed this year, specifically his defense. His defense.
This is a sort of a pet peeve of Joe’s: that a guy has to be a cartoon character on the sidelines to be an effective coach. There are tons of some of the most successful coaches in football history who were cigar store indians on the sidelines. Chuck Noll, Bill Walsh, Tom Landry, Paul Brown, Andy Reid, Tom Osborne, Bobby Bowden… the list goes on.
Chucky “got fired up” on the sidelines. How’s his record since 2002? Does it look cool? Sure. But it doesn’t amount to a hill of beans.
Joe always liked what Tom Landry said when he was asked why he never gets emotional on the sidelines. “When you’re hollerin’ you aren’t thinking.” He added he was always thinking what to call two plays ahead of what was going on the field, so he didn’t have the need or want to bark about what just happened.
The very last thing Joe worries about with a coach is if the guy does cartwheels on the sideline every other play. (Nor does Joe think an animated guy on the sidelines is automatically either bad or good. Just that in the big picture, it doesn’t matter. The X’s and O’s and managing the game matters.)
November 12th, 2024 at 3:27 pm
“80% of offensive success is dictated by the OC.
80% of defensive success is dictated by the GM.”
IDK
Bill Belichick consistently had UDFA rise up on defense. Dudes who you thought were Pro Bowl defensive players would leave the Patriots and wouldn’t be as effective (JC Jackson for example).
Sean McDermott’s Bills D doesn’t have a lot of flashy names and it is routinely good.
The Chief’s D has Chris Jones and a bunch of good not great players. Heck, they traded their top CB, Sneed, away and they are still a top D.
November 12th, 2024 at 3:36 pm
the Bruce Arians coaching tree will fade out soon.
November 12th, 2024 at 3:37 pm
Keep Bowles. OTHERWISE, our DEI percentage hire will go down and not a good look for the Bucs and the NFL. 🤦♂️
November 12th, 2024 at 3:39 pm
Come on this is ridiculous. Todd Bowles defensive scheme is the worst in the NFL. His scheme used to work but it clearly does not anymore.
It is unfortunate because I think most fans, players and the organization really like Coach Bowles as a person, but his time has passed. Bucs obviously have got one of the top NFL minds as their OC, but they need to get someone else to run the defense and make sure Coen stays.
November 12th, 2024 at 3:42 pm
If you put Mike Evans in there, if you put Chris Godwin in there, we’re not a different defense. Period.
November 12th, 2024 at 3:47 pm
If they get rid of Bowles at the end of the season please don’t tell me they plan for Gruden to be his replacement. A few folks on here seem to be calling for that. He did win a SB but he’s been a .500 coach ever since. Bowles has been .437 the latest three years. Neither is good enough.
November 12th, 2024 at 3:59 pm
Who is our best pass rusher? That’s a tough question to answer because toilet bowl has them dropping out and playing pass coverage. I’m not sure that’s the way to get the most production out of your pass rushers.
November 12th, 2024 at 4:02 pm
Im a no on Gruden too… He’s not the answer. I still wish they would give Todd the pink slip and bring in BB as a interim coach… Just a place holder to finish the year. Start the process of loking at options for the next head coach… Maybe Coen but having BB to mentor for 7 or more games couldnt hurt and maybe just maybe we save this season
November 12th, 2024 at 4:06 pm
I get what hes saying but I don’t agree. I get we have no pass rush etc etc but I would think we would at least stop the run like we used to OR at the very least be an average defense I mean we can’t stop anything.
On the flip side look at our offense we are down our WR1 & WR2 the offense has been pretty and definitely not as flashy as it was but we are moving the ball pretty well and scoring points. I know people were upset with the play calling a little bit for the 49ers game but again overall the offense did pretty well considering it also lost the league’s best LT.
The difference is Coen is able to come up with creative ways to get production such as all of a sudden Otten is an all star where as when we had Evans and Godwin he was a nobody. My issue with Bowles is he just wants to blitz and run his system period he does nothing to work with what he has.
November 12th, 2024 at 4:12 pm
I just want sacks on 3rd down. That’s all. However they may come. Blitz, four man rush.
November 12th, 2024 at 4:15 pm
Todd used to be a great DC. We held the Chiefs to only 3 field goals in the SB (lest you forget). He did earn promotion to HC and I am not now on the “fire Bowles” poultry cart. Some of you are even wanting to replace him with a very green OC who is in a learning mode. NUTS.
Todd needs to find a new DC and concentrate on being a good HC. Maybe Liam could recommend someone. Todd has had more adversity being HC than quills on a porcupine and he still gets team support.
November 12th, 2024 at 4:28 pm
Well you know my opinion is only that an opinion, and it’s no more important as much as the next guy’s, but here mine is.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers have a problem and many people are questioning the HC. Fans are constantly concerned and in disbelief of what he is doing. He was supposedly a defensive expert and master. Yet his defense is quite horrible. Granted they have had a lot of major injuries and should be somewhat bad in comparison to other teams as we rebuild from that SB era, but this bad isn’t what I had in mind.
I think the OT losses are more of an indicator that Coach Bowles can’t do what Bruce Arians did. That’s why we are losing games. The risk it all for the biscuit philosophy is gone. I am convinced Todd doesn’t want that at all. Scared because of weather, not to go for 2. Cmon coach. That’s weakness and fear consuming your soul. Let these guys play the damn game and skip over the terrible NFL OT rules. Finish or be finished. That’s what is going to come from all of this. Need a leader to take complete control and responsibility.
November 12th, 2024 at 4:34 pm
His prevent defense would be ok with one minor adjustment. Move the DBs 5-7 yards closer to the line if scrimmage. Starting the play behind the first down markers or inside field goal range not only isn’t preventing anything, it also makes the DBs have to run further to make the tackle. Thus giving the receivers more time to juke our guys out of their shoes.
November 12th, 2024 at 4:40 pm
BallHawk75 – How can you possibly say Bowles seems like a standup guy. Nothing is ever his fault; always someone else’s. He gives vague answers and often changes them later. He has no accountability. He is incapable of learning from his mistakes because he never admits to them.
Bowles is the antitheses of a standup guy.
November 12th, 2024 at 4:42 pm
As a “Team” Coach, Not so much. As a Defensive Coach, Not so much. As an Attacking Coach, Not at All.
November 12th, 2024 at 5:05 pm
The biggest problem I have is the fact that there is enough talent even with injuries to be average. There is absolutely no reason for this team to be last or second to last on defense. The 49ers handed us the game and we said no thanks and gave it back to them. That is on the HC!
November 12th, 2024 at 5:28 pm
I don’t think anybody can defend him anymore. The Glazers & Licht are probably one of the ones on his side (probably). We could give him the good D we had 20 years ago & he’d still find a way to struggle with it. He’d have all of them looking stupid. We need an AI version of Monte Kiffin to coach the D. He could probably still do better.
November 12th, 2024 at 6:00 pm
“We don’t have them right now and I think Todd Bowles is doing a pretty good job off staying in some of these football games that could have went either way with the ball bouncing a different way.”
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I don’t disagree with that at all. They’re playing complete trash with players like Britt and Hayes on the field, now Sucke is back as well, this is a roster with very little depth. Of course I’d say the lack of depth is on Bowles for running off players like Davis and White, with those two guys on this team, they’re at least one win better, if not two.
November 12th, 2024 at 6:22 pm
Bucnjim … ‘There is absolutely no reason for this team to be last or second to last on defense.’
Actually there is. The reason they’re #28 in Points Allowed is because they’ve surrendered 266 points in 10 games … 26.6 PPG average. This defense didn’t just haphazardly fall into the #28 ranking; they ‘earned’ it by playing some really bad defense.
You contend that they have ‘enough talent even with injuries to be average’. Over the course of a season I’d agree with you. Over the first 10 games of THIS season, I don’t agree at all. Talent is comparative; defenses play offenses, not other defenses. In our first 10 games, opposing offenses ranked an average of #8.5 in Points Scored. Bucs defense ranked #28 in Points Allowed in that same span. That’s a BIG mismatch. Part of the reason falls on coaching, but you can be assured that an even bigger part was TALENT (or lack thereof). Our defense matched up relatively poorly against the better offenses.
Want some proof Jim? I’m of the opinion that the place where it shows the most is when the opposing offense goes for it on 4th down, and especially in their own territory. That’s a HUGE gamble, and one that the Bucs’ defense is LOSING rather dramatically. Opponents have gone for it on 4th down 19 times in 10 games … and made a ridiculous 14 of those (73.7%). That’s where mano-a-mano really means something, and we’re coming out on the short end three quarters of the time. That’s absurd. That’s also lack of talent, not coaching.
Put it in perspective. Bucs have lost 3 games this year in which had we held them on 4th down we would’ve won the game.
o Falcons 1st game (lost 36-30 in OT). Falcons went for it 3 times on 4th down, and converted 2 of them to keep drives alive. Falcons scored a FG on 1 of those drives in the 3rd qtr, and a TD on another in the 4th qtr. That’s 10 points scored because we couldn’t stop them on 4th down.
o Falcons 2nd game (lost 31-26). Falcons went for it 2 times on 4th down, and converted BOTH of them to keep drives alive. Falcons scored a TD on 1 of those drives in the 1st qtr (the difference in the ball game), but missed a FG try after the 2nd 4th down conversion they made kept the drive alive. That’s 7 points scored because we couldn’t stop them on 4th down.
o Chiefs (30-24 in OT). Chiefs went for it 1 time on 4th down, and made it (4th qtr). They subsequently scored a TD on that drive. That’s 7 points scored because we couldn’t stop them on 4th down.
In just those 3 losses, opponents went for it SIX times on 4th down, and were successful FIVE times. They ended up scoring 24 points all together on those 5 drives (drives that would’ve been stopped had our defense been robust enough to hold the line). Bucs could’ve easily been 7-3 right now (or any combination … 6-4 or 5-5) even with this defense IF they’d just been able to stop the opposing offense on those 4th down conversions. Even just 1 or 2 stops on those could’ve made a world of difference right now.
November 12th, 2024 at 6:28 pm
It’s not just the scheme, it’s what an idiot Toad is as an in game coach. He is putrid! He makes mistakes with the clock that many posters on this site wouldn’t make. He has no balls when he needs them. He refuses to use timeouts properly. The list goes on and on.
November 12th, 2024 at 6:44 pm
It suddenly reeks of dead snook around here. Actually it’s an aroma that’s reminiscent of a blend of that and Mark Dumdumnik’s cologne.
November 12th, 2024 at 7:42 pm
For all you grass is greener folks, wait for it… you think anything is better than Bowles, just you wait for it. Somehow you have forgotten what the 10 years were like before Arians showed up. We’re so damn spoiled with the Arians era, and make no mistake, Arians without Brady, most likely spends his entire tenure here like it was in 2019, floating around 8-9, maybe 7-10 record. That’s real talk for all his greatness chatter. So now we anoint Coen, which I think would be a desperate poor decision, but “hypothetically” we make him our next HC, I’m sure the “prodigy” HC will attract a ton of great defensive coordinator talent. If we’re lucky, a decent defensive back upstart! Perhaps our own Rashad Johson? He’s doing well with our Nickel Corners…I’m sure he takes over and can fix everything that’s gone wrong on defense since he’s so experienced. That’s right there are no parallel moves being made from successful franchises… the best-case scenario? We find a coordinator who is part of coaching staff that was fired for basically being a terrible football team. Problem solved!
Look, Bowles isn’t perfect, and yeah most likely he’s a better coordinator than a HC, history has pretty much shown that, and history isn’t favoring him this season. But I think there’s a combination of things that are working against Bowles besides his in-game situational decision making. First the GM continues to miss at OLB. We were banking a ton on Yaya, he’s not the next Bosa or Hendrickson, right now we just need him to be a 10 sack per year guy. JTS has never played to his draft potential nor has Hall. That’s huge, why? Because we need these draft picks to hit because the second problem is the NFL salary cap culture. All these players egos need to be stroked by being the highest paid at their position, yeah I’m looking at you, Wirfs and Winfield. I mean Wirfs being tied with the highest paid tackle in the NFL would have been an insult, right? Same for Winfield… nope these guys need to be the highest paid, a real humble bunch we got. Then you get injured and we are essentially sh!t out of luck. Point is, this is the NFL, most teams are like this. 9 of the 53-man roster take the Lion’s share of the cap. ALL OUR MONEY is tied up with a handful of players, the rest of the roster, 83% of it are draft picks and undrafted free agents. There’s no room for higher priced free agents from other teams that could help bolster our ILB room and/or OLB room. Hell, Devin did us a favor by acting like a-hole, he wanted $20M per, what peter were we going to rob to pay paul? Lastly, injuries and guys not playing to their potential is plaquing this team. We got undrafted free agents we’re asking a lot from, that are undrafted for a reason. We have guys drafted in the 5th round that we were hoping could be able to replace a 1st Round Caliber ILB. I think Bowles is better than this, he is well regarded around the league, his players like to play for him, he hasn’t lost the locker-room despite the struggle.
November 12th, 2024 at 7:43 pm
Bowles’ record as a HC has been to take a pretty decent team into decline. His overall record is about .500. That’s about his record as Buc’s HC, this year is trending to be under .500, and there’s no indication in his HC record that a team can soar well above .500. He was an adequate coach for the Bucs when .500 would win the division. That is no longer the case, as Atlanta has improved. New Orleans and Carolina, along with Atlanta all have new coaches, looking to improve their team and record. Only the Bucs standing Pat. Bucs will get left behind, rather quickly I imagine.
November 12th, 2024 at 8:08 pm
So it’s the players excuse again and OC/DC match up has nothing to do with who wins or loses, just come out there with a garbage game plan and it would all work out because of personnel. Bowles defenses get abused at least 3 times a year including the Super Bowl season. Media is taking sides on the issue now so looks like your time is up Bowles
November 12th, 2024 at 9:47 pm
Always liked Ian. did not always agree with him. However I do agree on this. Go Bucs
November 12th, 2024 at 10:06 pm
Well, that post is apparently lost in the Joesphere. Hey, at least I got my thumb exercises in!!
November 12th, 2024 at 10:11 pm
Licht owns some of this.
Bowles is bad and so is Jason.
Those “top” picks are mostly busts
November 12th, 2024 at 11:51 pm
Algo Rhythm is playing man to man tonight. Wish Lovie would try it sometimes. It’s a shutout waiting to happen.
November 13th, 2024 at 8:35 am
Disagree. I don’t feel like his scheme is really that great.
Players shouldn’t be getting so confused by his defensive assignments. They’ve been playing football all their lives. You can’t be coming up with something that tricks your own players all the time.
He gets flashy numbers by blitzing a lot, which is risky. So the opposite side of the coin is what is happening now, you blitz and your pass defense gets beat if you don’t get home to the quarterback.
And, why wasn’t he beating the drum to get a star pass rusher?
And, could he not provide any input to drafting these pass rushers with high picks that have turned out to be lackluster? He didn’t weigh in on any of that?
November 13th, 2024 at 10:13 am
Todd always has his team ready to play. Not very many coaches can claim that. The team is being built in the draft and by keeping key pieces. That is a great combination. They always stick together which is the most important thing. Todd’s history here is they play better at the end of the season. That’s where you want to be. Everyone chill and let the season play out. This team plays tough in every game, even against great teams. The players stick beside Todd too. There is no friction on the team. We could do a lot worse than Bowles as our coach. Stay positive, the team does.
November 13th, 2024 at 1:04 pm
If this team does not make the playoffs I feel it falls squarely on the GM for two reasons. First, we knew going into the season that our pass rush was a major weakness and no action was taken. 2nd, failure to add talent at the trade deadline was the nail in the coffin. There were multiple wide receivers on the trading block and we sat idle. Considering the players that our currently healthy, I feel the coaches are doing a solid job despite being hung out to dry by Licht.
November 13th, 2024 at 10:33 pm
No arms allowed scheme is the only defense of Blowles scheme