Tristan Wirfs Holding Call Mocked By Bill Belichick
October 23rd, 2024
The Manningcast can be a really fun resource for Xs and Os perspective on a particular play, and the whole show has kicked up a notch from that perspective with Bill Belicheat joining Eli and Peyton Manning this year.
Monday night, the Bucs scored a second touchdown early in the game, a sweet Baker Mayfield scramble-and-throw in the red zone to Chris Godwin. But no, Tristan Wirfs was called for holding, which is about as common as Joe ordering the “vegetable of the day” versus tater tots.
The touchdown was taken off the board. Wirfs was livid. And Bill Belicheat was asked to scrutinize the replay.
“Yeah, yeah, as defensive coach, I’d like to have had a couple of those holding calls. That would have been nice,” Belichick said.
Eli Manning scoffed at the call before Belichick’s take. “He’s not holding. The [defender’s] not even doing anything.”
And so it was.
Instead of leading 14-0, the Bucs took a 10-0 lead. In theory, those four points would have stopped Chris Godwin’s ugly injury from being the byproduct of a miracle chase.
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:05 am
Heartbreaking events like that seem to rattle Mayfield, we’ve seen it 2 weeks in a row where he starts throwing pics right after something like that happens
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:06 am
Yeah I thought that holding call was crap too. I sure as heck didn’t see anything. Ridiculous
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:08 am
I, too, though it was a truly terrible call at the time.
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:10 am
Yeah the holding call was atrocious but we got a make up call the following drive when Lamar ran it in just couldn’t capitalize on it like the Ravens did with there screen pass after there holding call. The refs didn’t screw the Bucs this game it was the defense AGAIN… First quarter looked great after that the defense looked flat honestly after the Mike Evans Injury is when it all went downhill…
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:12 am
Hopefully this controversial comment isn’t removed, but we are going to likely be paying in penalties for the Brady advantage that we had. There have been a ton of examples of nonsense penalties called against us since last season and it’s happened quite a lot this season already. The game at KC is gonna be brutal, refereeing-wise.
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:17 am
I’m glad you brought this up Joe because I was really upset about that Game Changing Terrible holding call that turned the momentum of the game around and cost us four points !
Tristen Wirfs never holds ! That was textbook blocking not holding. Without that call I believe we would have won that game !
In addition to the four points we were denied, Baker put the ball in Evans hands and McMillans hands in the end zone both were dropped. A 55 yard field goal was missed by a hair
So if the terrible holding call had not been called and just one of this TD drops had been caught, the Bus win that game.
Go Bucs !! L G !!
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:18 am
Beej to Mayfields credit he didn’t fold against the Stanks like he did against the Crows
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:19 am
Viktor – Genuinely curious why you think that? I don’t recall an outrageous amount of missed/bad calls against us this season, certainly not enough to think there’s a vendetta against us. Penalties happen and we’ve been pretty beat up on the OLine all season which could account for some of those flags.
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:23 am
NFL officials miss a lot of calls, strong teams overcome their oversight. There were the exact same phantom holding call against the Ravens, they overcome theirs, scored another TD on the next play.
That’s the mark of a great team
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:24 am
Yep. You factor in the Mike Evans drop and you’re prob talking about a whole different ballgame.
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:32 am
Love how people talk about if if if in order to insulate their fanboi interest from scrutiny. Not to pick on Mayfield but IF he hadn’t thrown those 2 horrible picks and IF he hadn’t chosen not to throw to an open Bucky near the goal line then maybe……..
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:40 am
A totally BS call for sure…
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:43 am
I don’t think it’s to protect fanboy interest (at least it isn’t for me) but to have more context. Obviously there were 2 horrendous picks from Baker but under the circumstance, you can speculate how it would’ve been a completely different game. Hindsight is always 20/20 but you need the whole picture to realize what actually went wrong and how it affected the game. Baker is to blame for the turnovers for sure, but you also have to acknowledge a great play from the defensive perspective.
Now, I will agree that saying what if we score AFTER the picks is absurd and not relevant to anything.
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:43 am
That play was a killer, as was the dropped pass by Evans in the end zone. The ball was placed perfectly in his hands. I can only imagine that the pain from his hamstring problem was so intense, he lost focus. The point being, we had a couple of opportunities to score another TD in the first quarter that were either squandered or taken away by the refs. Baker seems to fall off his game after something like that happens. He eventually regains his composure, but he’s got to get over these mental lapses when things start going south. This has happened in several games now.
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:48 am
Season-altering call. No Mike Evans or Chris Godwin injuries if this was called correctly. Ravens playing more on their heels the rest of the game as well.
October 23rd, 2024 at 11:50 am
the score being 21-7 instead of 14-10 could have prevented a lot of things from happening.
October 23rd, 2024 at 12:01 pm
Should have been 14–0 at that point. At the very least, halftime should have been 17–10. The interception in the end zone and that holding call changed everything
October 23rd, 2024 at 12:15 pm
Its almost as if mentally Baker just thinks “well Im not winning this one!” And then starts messing up after a bad call. Gotta take the punches and move on
October 23rd, 2024 at 12:17 pm
IF you don’t say “IF” BigBadDave, then what else is left to even discuss here!?
October 23rd, 2024 at 12:18 pm
This was a game-changing call. And just like StickinUp4Centers said, a season altering call.
The refs haven’t done our Bucs any favors this season. They call penalties quickly on the Bucs, but miss blatant ones that the other team does. Maybe we should have ref-robots instead.
October 23rd, 2024 at 12:30 pm
My bad guys I missed a payment for the refs this game knew I was forgetting something.
October 23rd, 2024 at 1:02 pm
Calls like this happen every game. Its not why we lost. You certainly can’t blame our injuries on that one crap call. To me, earlier on, it seemed like the refs were leaning on the Crows. Why do refs carry yellow flags? The dog’s blind too. BTW, is it just me or do any of you keep thinking the flashes from yellowy cleats at the edges of the screen look like penalty flags sometimes?
October 23rd, 2024 at 1:10 pm
The flag on Wirfs was not thrown until Mayfield scrambled past Wirfs toward the LOS. If Mayfield had stayed back I don’t think Wirfs would have been called. Of course that could have been a sack instead so….
October 23rd, 2024 at 1:16 pm
Love how the geniuses on this site love to pound on Baker when they know so little about him since he came to the NFL. Agree, the pick in the end zone was bad- a heart breaker – but the pass dropped by Evans was a heart attack. Love the guy, but is that the second or third TD he’s dropped this season?
Baker doesn’t fold under pressure, but he tends to press too had rather than throwing the ball away every once in a while.
October 23rd, 2024 at 1:49 pm
That ref could also stick with his full time job as a meat cutter at Publix.
October 23rd, 2024 at 2:18 pm
Yeah and if my grandmother had balls she’d be my grandpa
October 23rd, 2024 at 2:35 pm
We could have won that game. It was a weird one
October 23rd, 2024 at 3:47 pm
We’re ahead 7 – 0. A holding penalty negates a touchdown. Baltimore I believe got a few more worse calls than we did. Anyway we kick a field goal. Why don’t we go for the touchdown? I think we were inside the 5 yard line. It stripped the offense of confidence which we had in spades. Bowles was afraid the Ravens would go 96 yards. Tells the defense we have no confidence in you either. I didn’t like that, we should have gone for it. The 1st pick McMillan in the back of the end zone- he has to be coming back to Mayfield. The defender was covering Otten rubbed off towards McMillan. McMillan has to see what is happening and come back to the ball. He didn’t. He’s a rookie but he hung his QB out to dry.
October 23rd, 2024 at 3:56 pm
McMillan running simple down, out and down routes and can’t get a step . Mayfield tries throwing a back shoulder pass since McMillan can’t beat the cornerback and McMillan can’t even get his head around. This is at least 4 seconds after the snap. No wonder they aren’t throwing his way. He needs alot of practice with his QB.
October 23rd, 2024 at 4:16 pm
Wait, did they stop with the stupid awful guests during the Manningcast? I actually enjoyed watching them, but then they’d bring on retarded celebrities that wouldn’t even talk about the game, and it was awful, so I stopped watching it.
October 23rd, 2024 at 4:24 pm
Hindsight is 20/20. If if’s and buts were candy and nuts we’d be in the Super Bowl every season
October 23rd, 2024 at 4:37 pm
Esteban85 Says:
October 23rd, 2024 at 4:24 pm
Hindsight is 20/20. If if’s and buts were candy and nuts we’d be in the Super Bowl every season
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Wow, that’s amazing insight. Thanks for sharing.
October 23rd, 2024 at 7:09 pm
The refs stealing that TD, then the Evans drop- changed the game. It was all Ravens from there on out
October 23rd, 2024 at 8:58 pm
Trash call. Wirfs was solid on that play
October 24th, 2024 at 10:07 am
I say that Evans drop was the kicker that ball was perfectly placed a monkey cud of caught that dime even with a charlie horse,bakers int in the end zone was just as bad we have lost 2 games that shud have went bucs way
October 24th, 2024 at 11:18 am
Whats funny is that there is SO MUCH holding by offensive lineman that go uncalled. Except when it isn’t remotely holding and the flag comes on a touchdown. What a joke. Clown show.
October 25th, 2024 at 11:24 am
Vegas and the Refs!!