“As Bad As I Thought It Was”
September 23rd, 2024
Todd Bowles reflects.
NFL coaches hustle to watch game film not long after the final whistle.
After a shower and a meal, they’re getting after it.
Typically after a rough loss like the Bucs’ experienced yesterday, the team’s head coach (whomever that is) will share a few stray positives “to build on” with media the following day.
So with that in mind, Joe was struck by how short and down Todd Bowles was today at his postmortem news conference.
“It was as bad as I thought it was,” Bowles said, when asked if he saw positives in the film. “We didn’t play well in any facet of the game.”
Bowles later said electric rookie running back Bucky Irving has earned more snaps, but that was about it for anything positive.
Bowles expects players to flush the loss in a hurry and play a lot harder Sunday against Eagles. So does Joe.
September 23rd, 2024 at 12:48 pm
Hopefully this loss will bring back the grit that won us the game in Detroit. Everyone played bad, gotta remind themselves that they did not play like themselves and get that chip back on their shoulder. Eagles fans are gonna make this feel like an away game so we just might have to steal one back this weekend ahead of a crazy run on the schedule.
September 23rd, 2024 at 12:49 pm
Not everyone, Bucky was electric. Feed him the rock.
September 23rd, 2024 at 12:55 pm
Guess who fault that is Mr. Bowles?
September 23rd, 2024 at 12:57 pm
The players has to take responsibility and man up. This ain’t the pee wee league. They’re making millions of dollars, they are well paid professionals. Their salary alone should be all the motivation they need. You can’t motivate a loafing loser.
If they don’t wanna play, then do like Randy Gregory
Just quit playing, and let someone get their spot
Coaches, GMs can only do so much
These are grown ass men not 9 year olds
September 23rd, 2024 at 1:01 pm
You work a 9-5 job, the supervisor don’t stand over you and check your production, job performance.
If you’re slacking, loafing, missing days
Your ass is out of there, they’re not gonna tolerate that
September 23rd, 2024 at 1:04 pm
Guess I should give him credit for being able to watch that crap a 2nd time. I sure couldn’t. Once was one too msny times for me.
September 23rd, 2024 at 1:06 pm
Like Connor from SI said, we will win some big games, but take A dump on the games we should win
September 23rd, 2024 at 1:10 pm
If millions of dollars can’t motivate these guys.
How can someone expect words to motivate them?
September 23rd, 2024 at 1:14 pm
Joe didn’t mention anything about the HEAD COACH accepting any responsibility. “All facets of the game” is a weasel way out. I’m a hard nosed guy and when I need to flip the switch I do so. My patience with and acceptance of pro sports (NHL still hanging on) has run out. It is hard for me after half a century to discard the Bucs. I have already abandoned the NFL as a whole save my one lone exception. My finger is on the switch and my confidence level in Bowles just went to ZERO. I have been hoodwinked. I take responsibility for that. If by the end of the week I don’t see something to dissuade me, I’m flipping the switch. Following the Bucs has been a distraction from all the REAL WORLD EVENTS but those events have absorbed the Bucs.
September 23rd, 2024 at 1:15 pm
Just like Bakers record indicates. He is more often than not a below average QB.
With all you fools out there that like to live in the past. Please be honest with yourself when asking the following.
From a game-to-game perspective. Has Baker Exceeded, Met, or Failed to deliver to your expectations ON THE FIELD OF PLAY.
Really don’t need to hear your answer. Just trying to help y’all wake up from your delusions of what a WINNING QB actually looks like.
Its ok to love the MAN but hate the RESULTS of his work
September 23rd, 2024 at 1:20 pm
I feel like only a few players on any given team are really ‘playing for a paycheck’. In my opinion it should be about the team wanting to win for their guy, QB/Coach/whoever. Sunday it just felt like no one was that interested in actually winning the game, just lackluster in every aspect. Whether that’s Todd Bowles or Baker or Coen not getting the boys ready to win, someone has to step up and get complacency out of that facility, and while I agree with Baker that maybe TB12 was stressing the locker room out, Shoresy said it best, it’s one thing to love to win, everyone does, but you just have to hate to lose more.
September 23rd, 2024 at 1:27 pm
He is as advertised. He isn’t any different than he was with the Jets, he just has better weapons. The Bucs should be 1-2, don’t kid yourselves. With 7 playoff potential teams in the next 7 weeks, there is zero room for error. With the continued disappearing act on the pash rush and the offensive line swinging like a bad saloon parlor door, the draft classes suddenly look below average and where do you start to focus on next year? Anything less than 4-3 in the next part of the schedule and Bowles should be done in Tampa. .500 football isn’t going to cut it from an overhyped defensive genius. Yesterday, like almost every home game feels like a road game… shame on the Glazers
September 23rd, 2024 at 1:31 pm
Roger Goodell and the 32 owners have taken a great game and turned it into nothing more than a money making scam. It is the fans responsibility to wake up and realize that fact. There is coming a day very soon when NO ONE but the very wealthy can afford the games or merchandise. Many of the now hard core Bucs fans will be overwhelmed by current events and the Bucs will become an afterthought.
September 23rd, 2024 at 1:31 pm
Is it just me or is Tristan Wirfs suddenly regressing?
September 23rd, 2024 at 1:36 pm
How many coaches are actually winning and pleasing their fan base in the NFL? There’s not many, NFL coaches has as much job security as a fry cook at KFC.
Deion Sanders said he will NEVER coach in the NFL
He said you can’t coach millionaires, they don’t listen
There’s 32 NFL Head Coaches
And I’ll bet 25 of them seat is hot as a firecracker
September 23rd, 2024 at 1:38 pm
Cho,
When they get they bag, they automatic regress
September 23rd, 2024 at 1:38 pm
bucky got couple of big plays off of well called gimmick plays . that being said if he can get an extra yard per carry to whites 2 ypc it could help.
September 23rd, 2024 at 2:14 pm
wait till sunday when TB12 comments on Bucs play, & bowles -the defensive genius-game plan.. the TB12 haters will be besides themselves
September 23rd, 2024 at 2:24 pm
JOE ASKED HIM POINTBLANK LAST WEEK …
“How do you avoid complacency, so you don’t experience the same lull as last year?”
Bowles said the SAME EXACT THING as last year before the losing streak.
“We had a great week of practice.”
Same stuff. Different year. I like Todd but he’ll NEVER be a Super Bowl winning head coach. He’s a really good DC. He’s not a HC. His comment today was telling, “I don’t have anything to do with the offense.” Koetter was the same way. A great OC. Not a HC.
Unless Baker steps up and becomes a leader, the Bucs are about to go on a losing skid.
September 23rd, 2024 at 2:46 pm
Couple of things for the sky is falling crowd…
First off Bowles won’t win any of you over, doesn’t matter how we finish, you’re looking for the next attack to validate how you felt about him from day 1. So, you’re like a hair trigger… we lose a game, and you say, “you see, Bowles sucks!”…relax, we’re 2-1, am I pissed, yeah I am. I don’t necessarily put this on the coach. I mean you guys have been watching enough Tampa football, right? This is Tampa Culture…it was like this before Bowles showed up. On FB, someone posted Bowles isn’t a championship coach….hmmmm… there are 32 teams in the NFL. How many are championship coaches? Is it the ones who won a Super Bowl? Like Sean Peyton or Mike Tomlin? They’ve been in a drought for 14 and 15 years respectfully. Maybe Kyle Shanahan? So close but can’t finish? I just think it’s a stupid comment. I can’t remember the last time a coach won a Super Bowl void of talent on the field doing its thing.
At the end of the day, players have to play. Bowles isn’t calling the offense, Bowles isn’t out there missing tackles. Oh, and regarding the defensive struggles, whoever didn’t see it coming just isn’t paying attention. JBF has been posting an article a week on it. First, we lose a solid starter in Shaq, we then did nothing to “seriously” address the OLB/DE position. Nothing outside of the Gregory experiment and drafting a 2nd rounder who was third on the depth chart at DE for Alabama. These were the game wreckers we were hoping would help with a consistent pass rush. The fact that JTS might be our best OLB right now is crazy…smh.
Circle back around to Bakers comments on how tense things were during the Brady era in Tampa. It’s cool sit-down conversation after a big win at Detroit to go 2-0 but then lose at home to an 0-2 team, then you probably know why Brady brought that to the Lockeroom, consistency is all about not getting complacent. It’s the Belichick way, not a lot of fun under his watch, but you know what is fun, being prepared and winning. Arian’s system would have failed if not for the loaded HoF roster he had here in Tampa. I remember vividly watching the 12-4 season where we should have dominated some bad teams and yet we played down to them almost every time, and we barely squeaked out some of those wins. We need a healthy squad to beat the Eagles.
September 23rd, 2024 at 2:53 pm
Sadly, as a lifelong Bucs fan, I see this every year. Bowles just doesn’t know how to keep his players hungry, Coen is no big deal and this teams has no alpha dogs. No pass rush and White as a RB is a failed experiment. How in the hell can these millionaires put this kind of excrement on display at their own home! We’re also kidding ourselves if we think somehow Vea, Kancey and Winfield will make things better.
September 23rd, 2024 at 3:18 pm
pelbuc … ‘We’re also kidding ourselves if we think somehow Vea, Kancey and Winfield will make things better.’
So when a team loses 2 Rnd 1 picks (Vea & Kancey) and 1 Rnd 2 pick (Winfield) to injury, then replaces them on the field with 3 Undrafted players (Brewer, Greene & Izien), then the quality of play should remain the same?
Bucs have a decent starting lineup when everyone’s healthy pelbuc, but our depth is circumspect.
September 23rd, 2024 at 3:28 pm
I agree everyone was bad, except for Bucky Irving. If he’s not RB1 after this game then we just aren’t serious about winning at all. He needs more touches because being by far the best RB and only getting 9 carries is a bold strategy
September 23rd, 2024 at 3:54 pm
I wonder if Wirfs is playing hurt.
September 23rd, 2024 at 4:24 pm
Todd was disappointed in the offensive game plan. Why didn’t he do something about it ahead of time or demand adjustments?
Also, I would like to hear Todd explain how the worst QB in the NFL carved up his pass defense like a roast ham and got his first win after being the laughing stock of the league over the first two games.
Maybe soft and loose doesn’t work very well after all.
September 23rd, 2024 at 5:57 pm
Defense rules… Izien was playing great according to all the pundits, Vea doesn’t play more than 60% of snaps, Kancey hasn’t done squat, Wirfs has regressed, and our OC sucks. The quality of play was somehow good against Lions, at least in defense. BTW, other teams are decimated (Rams) but they actually have a head coach/OC that knows how to get their players to play..
September 24th, 2024 at 1:22 am
That’s Right Coach. Neither coach well. It was bad enough .. well he knows. Time for Bowles to let that Dawg flow thru him .. No more slackers starting . No more bein to soft on our SB talented Team. Let’s get down to business. Get our Vea and Calijah back and our Pass Rush sbould come to life. Game changing Winfield back D will be Back and Better. Bout now dreaming of Zyon, Izien, and Smith as our CBS. Dean can go to Dime if he dont wanna play.