YaYa Diaby Pressure Rate
July 18th, 2024
Sacks > pressures.
Some fans will kvetch about this. Joe won’t.
Joe is not a big believer in quarterback pressures. It’s a lame excuse for not being able to get a sack.
“No coach, he didn’t get a sack but he got a pressure!”
“What did the quarterback do with the ball?”
“Well, um, geez he threw a touchdown.”
“Oh.”
Pressures only work consistently against lesser, fidgety quarterbacks. Your best quarterbacks, pressures rarely faze them. You think pressures make Pat Mahomes wilt?
It’s against Joe’s nature to bank on hope (it’s such an evil football word), but Joe sure hopes YaYa Diaby is able to reach double-digit sacks this fall. He led the team with 7.5 sacks last year.
It screams volumes about the Bucs’ impotent pass rush when a rookie who never started a game until after Thanksgiving led the Bucs in sacks. While Diaby, of course, needs to work on his craft, some would say he has a long way to go because of his quarterback pressures, as documented by the gang at Sharp Football Analysis.
A third-round pick last year, Yaya Diaby led the team with 7.5 sacks, but his 9.3% pressure rate ranked 114th among qualified pass rushers, two spots behind defensive lineman Calijah Kancey.
Again, Joe’s not a quarterback pressure guy. Joe is very much a sacks guy. Sacks are finite. They end plays. They are drive-killers.
If Diaby could really blow up and have, say, 14 sacks, Joe’s going to suggest the Bucs will be in very good shape for a playoff run come January.
July 18th, 2024 at 6:27 am
Still remember the high expectations everyone had for Noah Spence after his rookie season in 2016. Bucs went 9-7 and Spence contributed 5.5 sacks, 12 QB hits & 22 tackles (16 solo) that year. Everyone was soooo excited.
Ya right. Over his next 4 years in the NFL, Noah had a grand total of 2 sacks, 6 QB Hits & 21 tackles (12 solo). Disappeared off the NFL scene after that.
I’m convinced that unrealistically high expectations hurt some players. They try too hard to make things happen instead of letting the opportunities come to them & capitalizing on them. (Devin White was one of those guys IMO).
Ya Ya’s got great potential, and he’s got some great coaches. Personally I think it took him awhile to learn how to ‘play within the system’ last year. IF that leads to 14 or more sacks this year, fantastic. If he doesn’t get those 14 sacks but we have a winning season & go deeper in the playoffs, I’ll take it.
July 18th, 2024 at 6:31 am
Watts.
July 18th, 2024 at 7:11 am
“Joe is not a big believer in quarterback pressures. It’s a lame excuse for not being able to get a sack.”
Sir, pressure rate is directly linked to a players’ ability to collapse/breach the pocket and pressure rate is usually an indicator of consistency getting after the QB. Can’t be tops in the league with a single digit pressure rate
The Garretts’, Watts, Parsons, Bosas, Crosby, & Macks of the NFL, those caliber of pass rushers are pressuring the QB at rate >15% on a consistent basis and that’s why they are the defenders being game-planned for on Thursdays & Fridays.
Yaya isn’t there yet, he’s been promising and has the potential, but this is a matter of execution & efficiency and as a 2nd year player of course he has room to get better in those departments.
July 18th, 2024 at 8:13 am
A QB “pressure” is a very subjective statistic. You’d really have to watch film with the QB to ask him if the “pressure” affected him. Good luck getting an honest answer.
July 18th, 2024 at 8:19 am
DR, good job explaining why JTS and Logan Hall will be immortalized in the Hall of BUST along with Spence.
Both are has beens that never were.
July 18th, 2024 at 8:33 am
DR: correct me if I am wrong but didn’t Spence have shoulder injuries that made him play in a sling of some sort? Wouldn’t that limit his ability to get effective?
July 18th, 2024 at 8:38 am
14 from YaYa and 10 from Vita, throw in some from Kancey and watch how much better the secondary will be. Bowles will be able to do mulch more with this defense. Top 10-15 defense will make the offense even better.
July 18th, 2024 at 9:14 am
Bucsfan951 … I’ll bet you already know the answer, and it’s reflected in his Games Played each year and in his Defensive Snaps.
o 2016 (Bucs): 16 games … 572 snaps
o 2017 (Bucs): 6 games … 247 snaps
o 2018 (Bucs): 12 games … 45 snaps
o 2019 (Commanders): 7 games … 85 snaps
o 2021 (Bengals): 2 games … 56 snaps
We both know that Noah was hurt for almost all of 2017. Did he help the team? No. Should he have been on the field at all? No. His production that year (1 sack & 1 QB Hit in 247 def snaps) wasn’t much to write home to mama about, and he shouldn’t have been on the field at all.
July 18th, 2024 at 10:04 am
JTS had the highest pressure rate on the team last season and only had 4 sacks. Pressure rates alone doesn’t equal sacks.
July 18th, 2024 at 11:03 am
“Pressures only work consistently against lesser, fidgety quarterbacks. Your best quarterbacks, pressures rarely faze them. You think pressures make Pat Mahomes wilt?”
This is a wild question to ask a fan base that watched their team pressure Mahomes for 4 quarters on the biggest stage for football on the planet. We only recorded 3 sacks that game, and if I’m remembering correctly 2 of’em didn’t happen until the 2nd half and were already up 21-9.
July 18th, 2024 at 11:13 am
WHEN QB PRESSURE BECAME A STAT
Everyone knew the way to beat TB12 was to knock him down early. If you hit him hard a few times (no sack required) then follow on QB Pressures got into his head. That’s when QB Pressures became a stat people watched.
How much QBP matters depends on the QB. Rothlisberger and Farve = Meh. Winston and Mariota = Turnover.
July 18th, 2024 at 12:11 pm
If you can’t sack, at least pressure the QB.
No, pressures are not a replacement for sacks.
But pressures are better than allowing the QB to be a statue…
July 18th, 2024 at 1:11 pm
One little “math” thing I noticed, maybe. If Yaya got all those sacks, but only got pressure 9% of the time…it must mean that when he does break into the backfield he must be successful in closing the deal a lot of the time.
Yanno, I’d sort of forgotten that Spence was hurt a lot back then. I did have high hopes for the guy, but he’s kind of faded from my memory a bit.
Hey, hope is warranted this year more than most. Heck, if we sign Wirfs to a new contract we might just have the money to chase an expensive edge if we need to this year.
July 18th, 2024 at 2:18 pm
The eyeball test says YaYa was very much an impact player – and he was a 3rd round rookie.
now doubling his sack number – that’s a pretty ridiculous request and it means he’s now an ALL-PRO player. If he can do that, if you got an ALL-PRO at safety and edge, that also means you like have one at DT as well, and it means you have a dominant defense most likely.
Seems like a huge ask for 14+ sacks. If he can get to 10, that’s a huge win.
July 18th, 2024 at 3:27 pm
Dude is exactly right with what he said above. Pressure matters immensely. Sure the ‘ qb pressure’ statistics are often subjective and misleading, but so can all stats be, even sacks. Forget about stats, I’m talking about winning
July 18th, 2024 at 4:56 pm
That’s funny, I seem to remember we played against Mahomes in this thing called the Super Bowl, and we only had 3 sacks… but pressured him on 29 of 56 drop backs. That’s over 50% of his snaps.
Tell me Joe, did that pressure rarely faze him that night? Because I recall that was the first game of his entire career, college or pro, where his team didn’t score a single touchdown…
July 18th, 2024 at 5:59 pm
“Tell me Joe, did that pressure rarely faze him that night? Because I recall that was the first game of his entire career, college or pro, where his team didn’t score a single touchdown…“
Man ran a 4K behind the LOS lol
July 19th, 2024 at 1:04 am
Simply put, even the best GMs pick a turd out of the gemstone pile every once in a while. Right now, JTS and Logan The Oaf represent what a St. Bernard and a Great Dane leave behind after their after dinner walk around the pond.
JTS, the future of men’s cosmetics.
Logan The Oaf, leading candidate to play the monster in the remake of Mel Brooks’ “Young Frankenstein.”