“This Offense Is Hard”
June 11th, 2024
Yeah, despite the public implications, the Bucs are running a very different offense this season than what was cooked up under playcaller Dave Canales in 2023.
Pro Bowl Bucs quarterback Baker Mayfield is light on the learning curve because he played for new offensive coordinator Liam Coen in Los Angeles for about six weeks.
“I mean, this offense is hard,” Rachaad White said after practice today. “Like, I mean, everybody seen. Baker said it. It ain’t easy.”
White praised Mayfield for leading the team through the learning process.
Joe wonders if this is why Todd Bowles went out of his way today to say rookie receiver Jalen McMillan is impressing him most with his intelligence.
No excuses whatsoever for the Bucs offense, however. As Joe noted yesterday, every NFC South team is running a new offense with a new coordinator in 2024.
June 11th, 2024 at 3:12 pm
When Liam Coen was hired as the OC, the narrative was that the learning curve wouldn’t be too steep due to the fact the scheme is from the same west coast tree. Is it because they’re putting more on the players?
June 11th, 2024 at 3:15 pm
It will probably take awhile for everyone to get comfortable and on board. Hopefully that happens by week 4 and not week 8 like we saw the Super Bowl year of 2020.
June 11th, 2024 at 3:17 pm
Lol…well, we’ll see if it takes them half a season to learn the offense like last year.
June 11th, 2024 at 3:18 pm
This scheme is not like Canales last year. This offense is more Mcvay Rams, Canales was more Pete Carroll Seahawks. Canales all vanilla, Coen adds the chocolate, strawberry.
June 11th, 2024 at 3:31 pm
Picking up the offense may help level the field for Bucky and JMac to get on the field. Picking up the might be a big factor for these guys snap counts.
June 11th, 2024 at 3:37 pm
McVey’s Offense ran the ball more last year than in his 7 years with the Rams. This year it is said they will be running it just as much if not more.
Seems to me the McVey Offense is going to end up looking more like the Pete Carroll Offense and something similar to Calales’ in Carolina. Wonder how long it will take the branches of his coaching tree to follow suit or will they keep working from the pass to set up the run mindset.
At least the Bucs will get a couple of looks at it before they meet the Rams in the Playoffs.
June 11th, 2024 at 3:41 pm
Big difference going into the huddle with one play that’s got a few different calls attached to it. Take your time kid, you got the rest of the summer to get it down pat.
June 11th, 2024 at 3:52 pm
Just like me.
June 11th, 2024 at 4:11 pm
If Coen’s scheme and terminology can be implemented at Kentucky, to a bunch of 18-22yr old college kids, over a spring & summer, with limited learning/teaching windows at the college level…. There’s no excuse for the Bucs offensive players to not get dialed in by fall camp…Even if that means more late nights at One Buc Place.
June 11th, 2024 at 4:19 pm
All I have to say is finish strong and get back to the playoffs!!!
LFG!!!!
June 11th, 2024 at 4:22 pm
If we are doing West Coast…Baker will be passing a lot.
I still say we need a Mike Alstott guy in the backfield too.
June 11th, 2024 at 4:37 pm
Bucs should call Cory Linsley immediately. If he can pass a physical he would put the Bucs O-line in the top 5 in the NFL .Bring him in and put Barton at left guard . Linsley is the best center in the NFL . That move would put the Bucs O-line as one of the best in the NFL.
Go get him Licht . ASAP !!!
As always Go BUCS .
June 11th, 2024 at 4:42 pm
McVay ran the ball 42 percent of the time last year with the Rams and I suspect Coen would enjoy running as much here , but we will see if Oline improves enough to allow it.
June 11th, 2024 at 4:46 pm
A quick look at UK offense shows Coen ran it 44% of the time. Need more competition in the RB group-Sign ROJO.
June 11th, 2024 at 4:56 pm
Maybe that Culp kid can play fullback in short yardage.
June 11th, 2024 at 4:57 pm
Welp…this is kind of disheartening news. So the Bucs may not hit their stride until mid season?
June 11th, 2024 at 5:12 pm
This is all very upbeat to me. In his interview, Coen mentioned that in the beginning, he was going to throw a LOT at the team. This really seems like it is happening and the team is feeling pressure. This is almost the opposite of what Canals said he was doing, if you recall. He was going to go easy at first. I can hardly wait to see what our offense will become.
June 11th, 2024 at 5:14 pm
@catcard202
It’s obvious that the scheme Lian implemented in college is a simpler version. These college kids don’t have the time to learn the intricacies of an NFL offense.
June 11th, 2024 at 5:43 pm
This is the reality of having a defensive head coach. Offensive guys are the hot commodity, so if the OC is good, he’s going to be plucked away and we’ll be stuck having to learn a new offensive system every year.
Unfortunately, the “familiarity” on defense hasn’t proved to be very fruitful of late. Bowles’ system has been in place for 6 years but that unit hasn’t really seemed to benefit. The defense metrics have seemingly remained the same or gone down the last couple years.
June 11th, 2024 at 5:58 pm
Canales offense may be new to Carolina, but every team in the NFC knows it well and its marginal on its best day. Good players or bad players, Canales’ offense a blend of McDonald’s Cheeseburger and Swanson Pot Pie.
June 11th, 2024 at 6:07 pm
@Hearty… I agree with the OC turnstile probability, but I disagree with Bowles system not necessarily working. I believe he’s done a pretty good job to stay competitive while rebuilding since we won a SB with his defense. JPP was hurt before we parted ways, as well as DW, VV, KC etc. He’s navigated pretty well, even though it might not have been pretty at times. This exactly why I think there’s cause for excitement. Lots of continuity on this team, lots of guys paired up other rookies/Vets to make a successful transition, and a bevy of athletes that already know how to be a pro (more than any year I’ve ever seen) coming in. If they can stay primarily healthy I believe this will be a fun season.
June 11th, 2024 at 6:08 pm
*I did not mean to include VV or KC as those that were traded. Only to point out they were I jured.
June 11th, 2024 at 6:11 pm
Mcd’s chzburger & pot pie, LOL
June 11th, 2024 at 6:25 pm
A Great question to ask HC or OC Veteran D players asap is :
With this being a McVey offense tree limb, and our OC has ran it at the NFL level and College level. And hearing how the players are all saying this offense is tough mentally and physically. Is this why we have had difficulty with playing against this type of offense style? These types of offensive styles have to be so dialed in to several variables before the snap to make them work well. Be it against our Defensive plans, or our 2024 Opponents defensive plans.
Such will be, we will see. With our new complicated corridinated confusion on every play that all have different plays out of exact same formations. I am excited to see the new results.
GO!!!!!BUCS!!!!!
June 11th, 2024 at 6:29 pm
strong right slot z right spider 2 y banana z over
June 11th, 2024 at 6:38 pm
I mean, this offense is hard,” Rachaad White said after practice today. “Like, I mean, everybody seen. Baker said it. It ain’t easy
Gruden said hold my beer Keyshaun.
John Gruden ” Green right x, shift to viper right, 382 X sticky looky!”
Chris Simms ” ummmm yeah ugh right.” Okay guys, Green right x, shift to viper right, 382 Y sticky looky.”
Gruden screams ” X” and his head exploded into a flaming skull. 🤯 💥 🤯 💥
June 11th, 2024 at 6:50 pm
Jeff Garcia just looked at Chucky and said “pull my finger”.
June 11th, 2024 at 6:51 pm
Rachaad looks like Milli Vanilli
June 11th, 2024 at 6:58 pm
Gruden to Simms.
” scatter to west tight right, F left, 382 y stick Z spot.”
Simms. ” here we go guys.” Scatter the… uh oh. Say it again.”
Gruden ” Jimmeny Crickets ” Just go Scatter the west right right, F LEFT 382, Y Stick Z spot!”
Simms ” Dur..Here we fo Scatter to ugh.
Gruden ( his head has exploded again at this point and it a screeching demonic noise coming out.)
” 💀🔥 ” JESUS CHRIST! JUST GO SCATTER THE WEST RIGHT RIGHT, F LEFR, 382 Y STUCK Z SPOT!!!”
Simms ” F left, 372 y sti…”
Gruden ” 382″ at this point Gruden on camera became shaking uncontrollably. His flaming skull faces ro the sky and a beam of flaming energy shot into space. Which brings us to the episode known known only as the the ( Altering) Which created the multi verse and placed us all into the realty we live in today.
June 11th, 2024 at 6:59 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
I still say we need a Mike Alstott guy in the backfield too.
^^^^^
We’re all with you! Unfortunately they only made one Mike Alstott. Super special, one-of-a-kind, never before, never since type of player. If it were that easy we’d get Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, Randy Moss type guys, too. Not picking on you. Just saying they broke the mold.
June 11th, 2024 at 7:05 pm
Geesh. I’m just trying to quote Gru dog and I kept spelling it wrong. It’s scatter the west, right tight, F left, 382, Y sticky Z spot.
June 11th, 2024 at 7:07 pm
I knew it would prob be tough. It was the same excuse after every game last season at UK. I mean, you’d think after by say the 8th game that maybe, you’d at least try ‘dumbing it down’ a little, if they still (were too stupid and) hadn’t gotten it yet, by THEN!?:/
June 11th, 2024 at 7:21 pm
Jason we talked about this before the draft . In fact you said you would consider double dipping for the O-line if it fell the right way. Well it didn’t fall until late but now Corey Linsley is an available F.A.. He is the best center in the NFL right now . Make the call . If he can pass the physical he is plug and play ready . Put Barton at LG and Bucs have top 5 O-line in the NFL. Make the call , it could turn out to be a
dirty deed done dirt cheap 😉
As always Go BUCS
June 11th, 2024 at 7:23 pm
Corey Linsley
Deal done dirt cheap
Make that call .
June 11th, 2024 at 8:01 pm
@Drunkinybor get out of the sun man🤣🤣
June 11th, 2024 at 8:12 pm
I did not understand half these post seems like most were drunk or ur related to joe biden
June 11th, 2024 at 11:37 pm
It’s because they are not smart.
June 12th, 2024 at 12:44 am
To all those not paying attention:
Coen will call plays for players, those that produce.
At this point, the team’s strength is the passing game.
Yes, this basically throws pass vs run percentage out the window.
That said, Coen will play situational ball.
Thus, emphasis on one or the other is no more than a goal or philosophy to aim towards.
42%, 44% …. it’s all relative, don’t waste your time.
Joe(s):
The sky is blue.
Forrest Gump “Is not a smart man”.
Telling falsehoods about the Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny & Santa Claus just teaches your kids that lying is OK.
NFL offenses require effort on the part of professionals.
What’s your obsession all the RW quote based articles?
Give it a break bros
June 12th, 2024 at 5:11 am
I love hearing what the players say about each other. A breath of fresh air every single time, all being positively teamwork. Yes, there is a learning curve with a new OC, newer roster. I don’t think it will be status quo at all, but instead some good changes. All in on Coen and believe it will work out. And along with it, noted by Joe, that every NFC South team is running a new offense with a new coordinator this season. There is something to that too.
June 12th, 2024 at 6:37 am
I love that Coen is stress testing his players. He finds out who’s smart, who hits the playbook hard, and then he can send in 3 plays to get the match ups he wants. He’s said he’ll dial it back when the games start, hopefully we won’t have many procedure calls early in the season. Coen’s attitude seems to be paying off as Cars and Pic seem to have the OL ahead of schedule according to Bowles.
June 12th, 2024 at 7:55 am
Ouch!
Suddenly I suspect a very sloppy camp and preseason.
IP and motion calls out the ying yang? Get in your play book boys! Off time or not!
Get them coached up Coen!
Go Bucs!