“Most Accurate” Mocker Has Bucs Taking A Project
April 10th, 2024
Penn State DE Chop Robinson.
When it comes to mock drafts, Joe’s standards are quite simple.
If a mocker isn’t striving to be accurate, then why waste any time reading it? Joe knows the mockers and their ilk try to rationalize this dart-throwing as an exercise in grading the value of players.
Hell, there are tons of articles from reputable football people who have top players ranked at each position. Why does Joe need a mock draft to determine quality players?
Somewhere, Joel Buchsbaum is rolling in his grave.
A site called “The Huddle Report” tracks all of these mockers for their accuracy. Let’s just say you won’t see Justin Melo’s bad guesswork on this here site anytime in the near future.
A guy who has the best five-year average for accurate mocks is Brendan Donahue of Sharp Football Analysis, Warren Sharp’s outfit. Now, 15 days ahead of the draft, Donahue has the Bucs picking a project at No. 26.
Donahue has the Bucs selecting defensive end Chop Robinson in his latest mock. You know, he’s the guy who all of last year in B1G play had a grand total of two sacks — two! Robinson also had two sacks in a win over UMess.
Joe will continue to monitor Donahue’s mock to see if his Robinson pick of the Bucs holds.
Penn State Defensive End, Chop Robinson has declared for the NFL Draft. pic.twitter.com/wK1XH56a6a
— Dear Old State (@_DearOldState) December 5, 2023
April 10th, 2024 at 3:52 am
This pick just screams JTS. We need an actual pass rusher, not another body. I don’t like it.
April 10th, 2024 at 4:26 am
I doubt the Bucs pick him, but I didn’t expect them to draft JTS and Logan Hall, either. Mistakes should be used for learning, not constantly repeated.
April 10th, 2024 at 4:33 am
One of the top Center-Guards will fall to the Bucs at #26, and the Bucs will grab him. It’s a beautiful thing when BPA meets Need.
April 10th, 2024 at 5:26 am
You know nothing about Chop. He has won numerous awards while playing ball on every level. Penn State defense was ranked in the top 10 for a reason. To call him a project is ridiculous. Don’t let the numbers fool you. He is a dawg!!! Kids from the DMV are ballers. But some respect on his name.
April 10th, 2024 at 5:30 am
Rather get one of the top 3 centers at pick 26. Don’t need another Hall or JTS.
April 10th, 2024 at 5:50 am
If we all see this guy is another JTS why would Jason and Bowles not see it. Hard pass.
April 10th, 2024 at 6:03 am
NO
April 10th, 2024 at 6:07 am
Sorry, NO too.
Verse – YES.
April 10th, 2024 at 6:09 am
I’ll admit to initially feeling rather negative about the Randy Gregory signing, but I’m starting to feel that it makes a certain amount of sense given our salary CAP situation and draft position. Bucs don’t have the money right now to grab one of the big boys, nor are we picking high enough to grab a top Edge prospect.
Diaby MIGHT blow up this year & get double-digit sacks, but I doubt that’s what Todd Bowles is counting on. Gut feel is that he’s looking more for a rotation out at DE/OLB to keep Diaby, Nelson, JTS & Gregory fresh, as well as a rotation inside to keep Vea, Gaines, Kancey, Hall fresh. I could see us carrying those 8 players plus 2 others (1 DT & 1 DE/OLB). Decent chance that 1 of those 2 aren’t on the roster right now. Guys like Greene, Watts, Ramirez, Banks, Brewer or Uguak are all probably fighting for 1 of those positions or a Practice Squad gig.
April 10th, 2024 at 6:24 am
Ugh, I do NOT want this guy at 26. I swear if his name was Eddie Brown, he’d be mocked as a third rounder. If you can’t dominate in college, what do you expect to do in the pros? To answer FrontFour’s question, they just fall in love with the potential and the measureables. His college coach just didn’t know how to use him 🙄. I actually heard another Bucs media guy claim that once Chop got to be coached by bowles, he’d be a stud. Nevermind that both our highly paid corners and our high first round ILB regressed, while our last 2 high round DL picks never developed under that same coach. Also let’s not forget bowles has never drafted/ developed an edge player worth a spit as a HC (jets or Bucs). Edge is probably a bigger need, the value just isn’t there where we pick OR where we could realistically trade up to. We’ve got to go IOL, preferably one of the top centers, or best player available (potentially WR). Just say no to Chop. And not the fused neck guy either, big Bowers vibes.
April 10th, 2024 at 6:54 am
I remember 21: Chop does have speed, but if speed was all you needed, the Raiders would’ve won the Super Bowl every year when Al Davis would draft guys solely on their 40 time.
Chop reminds me of the guy the Ravens took out of Penn State the same year the Bucs drafted JTS…Oweh has 13 sacks in 3 years, THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT AS JTS.
April 10th, 2024 at 6:56 am
Makes sense DR.
April 10th, 2024 at 7:05 am
I don’t get the infatuation with Chop Robinson. The cool name maybe? The “used to be cool school before Sandusky’s rampage” maybe? Robinson reminds me of Adrian Clayborn, just not as good.
April 10th, 2024 at 7:17 am
Hope you are Correct DR.
April 10th, 2024 at 7:37 am
Slop Robinson would make JTS look like Lawrence Taylor. Not a chance.
April 10th, 2024 at 7:49 am
We don’t need no stinkin’ project….especially on defense.
April 10th, 2024 at 8:07 am
I’d much rather over-draft an IOL like Powers than waste that #26 pick on a Edge that we’ll probably let walk after 2-3 seasons. Being able to run the ball keeps the defense off the field completely
April 10th, 2024 at 8:21 am
We have enough “projects” as it is, no thanks
April 10th, 2024 at 8:31 am
JTS 2.0
April 10th, 2024 at 8:41 am
Don’t want Chop but look at Rashan Gary’s last year at Michigan. He only had 3.5 sacks and while he isn’t dominant he’s had a solid NFL career so far. for the Packers. I understand he isn’t a Watt but he’s definitely better than JTS. Draft is a crapshoot and I’m hoping for the best.
April 10th, 2024 at 9:01 am
No!!!! We already have one failed first round projects BUST in JTS. DO NOT add another one!!!
April 10th, 2024 at 9:02 am
Choice of a bad neck guy and a edge that can’t sack the QB. I would take a gamble on the bad neck guy.
April 10th, 2024 at 9:21 am
Dude runs a 4.4 and bench presses 400lbs. Would live this pick but he won’t be there. No way. Because he gets pressures and TFL too
April 10th, 2024 at 9:35 am
Jay – You must be a Penn State fan there is no way otherwise you could write all that with a straight face.
The facts are this… Chop has all the measurables, speed among those however for whatever the reason he was ineffective on a college level and it’s great he was part of a top unit at PSU but I am not sure how that translates for him in the NFL if at all. If he’s going to get 2-4 sacks a season we should draft a CB or OL over him because at the end of the day I think you try and get playmakers round 1 and 2 sacks isn’t a play maker its just another JTS jag and we have plenty of those.
April 10th, 2024 at 9:58 am
doolnutts:
Measurables don’t make sacks.
Yes, this guy Robinson spooks Joe. What works in Robinson’s favor is the coach he played for. Look at all the NFL talent that once they escape from Happy Valley they blow up. James Franklin is a joke.
April 10th, 2024 at 10:00 am
Scott Says:
April 10th, 2024 at 9:21 am
Dude runs a 4.4 and bench presses 400lbs. Would live this pick but he won’t be there. No way. Because he gets pressures and TFL too
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Chop had 20 TFL in 3 years, JTS had 14.5 TFL in 2 years. If he’s doing JTS-type stuff in college, he’s probably going to do JTS-type stuff in the pros.
April 10th, 2024 at 10:14 am
Trade out of the first and pick up extra picks before taking any more JTS like gambles
April 10th, 2024 at 10:29 am
How many college players enter the league as finished products??? None…
Chop has a ton of raw potential that was not fully realized in College Station under Franklin’s regime…Which can be said for many of Franklin’s Nittany Tigers….The question then becomes: “Can the Bucs new OLB Coach (George Edwards) coach Chop into maximizing that God given athletic talent into a 10 sack per year Edge???” That would be the hope. That is what the FO would be betting on.
IMO, though I am not 100% sold on Chop @ #26…The kid does have the juice needed to be a factor on the edge…So, I wouldn’t squeal negatively over the pick at all.
April 10th, 2024 at 10:34 am
I know that It’s and at least 1 of the Joe’s are anti mock draft as these things get out of control it here is an idea for a very entertaining podcast.
1. Pick one of the mock draft sites that seems to have decent realism as far as who might be available when the Bucs pick and what trades might realistically be offered. This may take some discussion with some of your colleagues who are more into “mick drafts”.
2. Plan an Ira Kaufman mock draft podcast with the addition of Joe Buck’s fan mock draft draft guru Sean Sullivan and perhaps Rock Riley or another special guest so that you have a total of five people including Ira, and both Joe’s along with Sean Sullivan. This approximates a “war room” for the Bucs.
3. Poll each person for their individual choice has to who to pick based on the players available at that pick (or if the person favors accepting One of the trade down offers).
4. This would promote some healthy discussion of some of the players who are likely to be available at each of the Bucs pick slots.
5. Come to a consensus pick among yourselves.
6. You might even do this with a pre-draft party at Big Storm beer but do it in advance of the draft, maybe a week before.
Hope that you will all consider it.
April 10th, 2024 at 10:44 am
No. No. No.
April 10th, 2024 at 10:49 am
Old Bucs GM Rich McKay always looked at production. Chop’s resume is terrible in that regard.
April 10th, 2024 at 10:50 am
Unless we somehow manage to get Verse to slide to us, we’re not getting a plug in starter EDGE player in this draft. Would rather get a plug-in day 1 starter at C/G or CB than pick a project at a “need” position. We could probably get Adisa Isaac, his teammate, in round 2. He doesn’t have Robinson’s eye-popping athleticism, but he’s got production.
April 10th, 2024 at 12:18 pm
While I want an edge rusher early too, I’m not sure the Bucs have him as high on their draft board as some others who may be available at 26 are, especially at wide receiver or corner.
April 10th, 2024 at 2:09 pm
Micah Parsons had six sacks in his college career.
April 10th, 2024 at 2:09 pm
I would not be surprised, and almost expect, the Bucs to trade their pick for additional picks. You have Chancey and Diaby in the mix both of whom are young. Adding another youngster to the DL doesn’t make sense. I can see a veteran down the road coming in; someone waived. Meanwhile DB is thin. You can find DBs in later rounds along with OL. I don’t foresee the Bucs making a splash at the draft but will come away with a similar haul as years past with production players who emerge mid-season and contribute.
April 10th, 2024 at 3:18 pm
His intangibles and combine work out are incredible. His upside is enormous. But he is still a project and you absolutely cannot pick that in the first round. It wasn’t like he was a great player on a bad D line at Penn State. He had all the help he needed and couldn’t get it done.
So no, I don’t think there’s any chance in hell they select him in Rd 1.
Powers Center Oregon
Verse Edge FSU
I would love one of them to be there in round one
April 10th, 2024 at 3:53 pm
This is a good pick if your SB dreams are 4-5 years away.
April 10th, 2024 at 4:24 pm
Noah spence all over again!!!
April 10th, 2024 at 5:07 pm
There are zero slam dunk pass rushers in this draft . However there is a slam dunk O-lineman . Jackson Powers Johnson should be the pick but they would have to move up 11 spots to get him. He will be the best center in the NFL the moment he steps on the field as a professional.
April 10th, 2024 at 7:58 pm
Chop is nothing like JTS. I still prefer Graham Barton or JPJ, btw. But Chop would be a good pick. JTS didn’t have good get off, couldn’t bend the corner and couldn’t use his hands. I had no idea what JL (Best thing that happened to the Bucs in 20 years, after Brady) saw in him, and I still can’t see now. But Chop is light years ahead of JTS athletically.
April 10th, 2024 at 8:01 pm
Chop has the best speed, and best speed around the edge.
And you cant teach that.
I think, with Chops build, he should be a pass rusher from the LBer spot.
But he may fill out, and grow into a Defensive end.
Either way, I think he can be a pass rush specialist. Just needs a year or two.
April 11th, 2024 at 3:30 pm
Chop Robinson is a 4-3 OLB. He has zero business being considered as a 3-4 OLB. He’s no edge player with his little T-Rex arms… He can bench 400 because the bar moves 3 inches lol.
Chop will not disengage with NFL OTs and is an instant vulnerability against the run on the edge.
If you feel good about Latu’s neck trade up ahead of New Orleans… Just a few spots. If not IOL. And if all the IOL we like are gone trade back.
If no partner, take a receiver. Godwin is not a lock (sadly) and our HOF WR isn’t young.