Jason Licht: Foundation Of Draft Trades Underway
April 12th, 2024
Trade talk.
Will the Bucs trade up from No. 26? Will they trade back? How often will Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht trade on Days 2 and/or 3?
It’s a pure guessing game but that doesn’t mean Licht isn’t preparing. Yesterday when he briefed the local pen and mic club about the draft that begins in less than two weeks, Licht admitted the foundations of potential moves already are being worked out with other clubs.
“In the past, our trade-ups and trade-downs, we’ve started that process typically around now,” Licht said. “You don’t want to make rash decisions – at least I don’t – on draft day… emotional decisions that can come back and bite you. You want to be as clear-minded as you can when you’re putting that together.
“We’ve got a big chart [that] has a certain number of players. … If you’ve got three players remaining and you’re 10 picks out – all of those types of things. It depends on what players are available, too. We kind of have a pretty good feel going into the draft.”
Depending who is still on the board, Licht said he expects to have a better idea if he will trade up or not toward the end of the teens.
“I’d say around pick 20, we’ll know if we want to start attempting to move up or not,” Licht said.
Licht added that picks are important to him so he’s not going to burn them on a trade for just any player.
So if Licht is true to his word on the evening of April 25 when the draft reaches No. 20, Joe will closely monitor who is on the board. If, say, UCLA edge rushing beast Laiatu Latu is there, Joe sure hopes Licht can swing a deal.
April 12th, 2024 at 9:15 am
I like Jason’s words “You don’t want to make rash decisions, emotional ones that can come back to bite you.”
Hoping Jared Verse is still there for us.
April 12th, 2024 at 9:17 am
Back please
Chop ???
Draft the player that doesn’t have a history of college domination and sacks?
April 12th, 2024 at 9:19 am
Joe,
No wonder it takes time for GM’s to develop. Every time I think I understand the decision process, I hear of another factor I hadn’t considered before.
Could Dominik have become a good GM if he had a second chance somewhere? How did his 5 years stack up to Licht’s first five?
April 12th, 2024 at 9:26 am
Move up….move down….stay put….
I like having the picks……look what we have don with our 3rds……..White, Cappa, Dean, Godwin, Hainsey, Ya Ya are examples…..4th….Whitehead, Camarda, Otton, Gholston..
We need players……we need TE, C/G, RB, WR, CB, ILB, OLB
April 12th, 2024 at 9:27 am
Why trade up?
Each year Pro Bowl players are selected in the 2-3 round. Think of the players the Bucs have found rounds 2-5 in the last two years. Yaya, Otton, Palmer.
We’re not one player away from a SB. The Bucs have too many holes and no depth. Keep the picks.
April 12th, 2024 at 9:40 am
Perhaps but it is very telling Dominik couldn’t land another job in the NFL (unless, maybe, he refused to take a job where he had to travel). Notice not even Bruce Almighty would hire him in Washington. His drafts and most of his free agent signings were awful. He made dumb decisions like not drafting Cam Jordan because he talked too much.
April 12th, 2024 at 10:01 am
This is a strong draft at QB, WR and T. All of these are positions the Bucs don’t need in the first round. This is a very strong day 2 draft. There are definitely day 2 players that will be available in the 4th round. I believe this is one of those years the Bucs should let the draft come to them. If none of the 5-7 players JL referenced are there then trade back.
I would love the Bucs to trade back with Wash (have 2 x 2nd rd picks, 3 x 3rd rd picks). Get the #36 pick and swap our #92 for their #67 in the 3rd and our 4th rd #125 for their final pick of the 3rd at #100. Both teams end up with the same number of picks, but the Bucs can get two significantly better players by moving up 25 slots. The other option would be trade your 1st at #26 and 2nd at #57 for both of their 2nds at #36 and #40. Bucs could also trade their #1 for a 2nd and 3rd rounder (#36 and #78) to get an extra pick.
April 12th, 2024 at 10:06 am
Trade up to 20 or 21 for Latu or Graham Barton if still on the board. Trade chart says that trading one of our third round picks will get us up to 20 or 21. I believe this is why Jason Licht said that is when he would be thinking of a trade up. Miami at 21 is without a third or fourth round pick so may be motivated to move back to recoup picks. Verse would be ideal but most likely will be gone by then.
April 12th, 2024 at 10:08 am
It is kind an off balance year for the draft. There is a ton of good WRs and Offensive lineman but a weak year for Defensive lineman and RBs.
I only see three DE worth drafting in this year’s first round: Dallas Turner, Jared Verse and Laiatu Latu. Chop Robinson is not a first round pick and I second guess he’s worth a high second round pick. If the Bucs do not move up to pick Verse or Laiatu, don’t bother picking a DE in the first round.
April 12th, 2024 at 10:09 am
I agree with others that say the Bucs should trade up for a top 3 edge if they are available around at pick 20-25.
April 12th, 2024 at 10:13 am
Round 1 – Copper DeJean
Round 2 – Marshawn Kneeland
Round 3 – Malachi Corley
Round 3 – Sedrick Van Pran
April 12th, 2024 at 10:13 am
No trade up!! Need all our picks because there is no 5th rounder.If anything a trade back would give extra picks. At 26 your really getting a 2nd rounder.
April 12th, 2024 at 10:17 am
“when the draft reaches No. 20…. If, say, UCLA edge rushing beast Laiatu Latu is there, Joe sure hopes Licht can swing a deal.”
Me too Joe!
Latu or Verse are the only 2 players worth trading up for.
Positional value + a strong need + lack of other edge rushers in this draft being capable of contributing right away like these 2 can = worth it to move up if either can be had for the price of a #20 draft pick.
April 12th, 2024 at 10:24 am
Also remember the last edge pick named Joe Who.
April 12th, 2024 at 10:39 am
Verse is definitely worth trading up for.
I really like Latu, and hopefully he gets a full medical clearance to play. I really worry for his health in regards to his neck. So far he has had about 30 visits with six teams. So that says something.
April 12th, 2024 at 10:46 am
If Chop Robinson is available he will be the pick. He is an animal. If he is not available Kool-aid would be a solid pick. He is way underrated. Didn’t have the stats because teams stayed away from him.
April 12th, 2024 at 10:52 am
Go to YouTube and watch Chop Robinson’s highlight reel..
April 12th, 2024 at 10:52 am
I would not pick either Chop or Latu in the first round, obviously for entirely different reasons. Would rather see the Bucs pick up a plug and play center or guard and get an Edge in a later round.
April 12th, 2024 at 10:58 am
Buyer beware – Latu’s fused neck bones are a major red flag…
I would rather our GM trade back and add picks than spend picks and move up to draft Latu.
However – moving up for one of the better WRs or Verse would be fine with me.
April 12th, 2024 at 11:21 am
Leads me to believe the Bucs have a definite player or 2 in mind for the 1st pick.
April 12th, 2024 at 11:27 am
They need to go OL early and often. The edge is going to be a weakness. We might as well shore up the OL with maulers if they are less coveted.
let lovie work his magic to get sacks with what we have.
Our sacks are never gonna be as good as when we were a 4-3 team.
or it seems that way
April 12th, 2024 at 11:33 am
@ Boss
“let lovie work his magic to get sacks with what we have.”
Wrong decade buddy… lol.
April 12th, 2024 at 12:00 pm
“How did his 5 years stack up to Licht’s first five?”
I don’t even know if we have to compare. Just looking at Mark D by himself it looks so bad:
From 2009-2013
R1 picks: Josh Freeman, Gerald McCoy, Adrian Clayborn, Mark Barron, Doug Martin, then traded our 2013 1st round pick for one year of Darrel Revis to rehab his knee.
R2 picks: Brian Price, Arelious Benn, Da’Quan Bowers, Lavonte David, Johnthan Banks
R3 picks: Roy Miller, Myron Lewis, Mason Foster, Mike giraffe Glennon
So Lavonte David & Gerald McCoy I guess, and a bunch of fail or mediocrity at best. Lavonte was the only great value pick in 5 years where he highly exceed his draft position. Gerald McCoy was the 3rd overall pick.
Meanwhile Jason Licht found these players in the top 3 rounds his first 5 years:
Mike Evans / Donavon Smith / Ali Marpet / Chris Godwin / Vita Vea / Carlton Davis / Alex Cappa.
7 core players vs 2 in the same period of time over the first 3 rounds. It looks similar when you look at hte later rounds.
Mark Dominik is the main reason we sucked for so long on top of bad coaching hires, which ultimatley all falls on the Glazers.
April 12th, 2024 at 12:16 pm
What if the Bucs could trade JTS and pick #26 to the Cowboys for Micah Parsons?
Wouldn’t that be a hoot?
The Cowboys will need to pay Lamb and Prescott a ton of money soon they might not be able to afford Parsons deal as well… Plus there are rumblings that Parsons might want out of Dallas…
Could be a win-win for both teams.
April 12th, 2024 at 12:19 pm
Excellent outline, Lord Cornelius.
Never have forgotten the Josh Freeman and Schiano mess either. Schiano being a big disappointment with everything.
April 12th, 2024 at 12:29 pm
I really don’t see Edge that would slide to past #20 worth trading up for…Fully expect Dallas Turner & Jared Verse to both be off the board before PIT picks at #20…With my expectation that Latu slides due to medicals & could very well be on the board at #26. (He may not be considered a 1st rd option for many teams due to his neck injury!).
Chop may slide into the 20-25 range before someone rolls the dice on his physical potential, even with his lack of production at PSU…Not sure I’d trade #26 & a 3rd to move up for him at 20/21. (Which is what it may take to do that)…Darius Robinson is a 3-4 DE & IMO, his selection as #26 would signal that the FO/coaching staff has little to no faith in Logan Hall being a factor beyond a rotational role player.
There’s too much value to be had Day 2/3 to squander the FO’s Day 2 resources for a 50-50 flip of the coin on a 1st round Edge from this class, for the guys that may be available in a range the FO would feel OK trading up…But love the idea of trading out of the 1st & garnering more draft capitol Day 2/3…Like Licht said, the Bucs have many needs…& it’s highly unlikely the FO goes to 5-for-5 finding significant roster upgrades through 4 rounds. (Edge / LG / C / ILB / RB)
You have a better chance to hit your target if you have more bullets to work with! So, would have no issues with the FO taking fliers on Qty2 Day 2-3 Edge options, should the deal out of the 1st for a few extra picks.
April 12th, 2024 at 12:37 pm
@ Boss – Why are you still commenting on this site ? You’re not even a Bucs fan. Gfy…
April 12th, 2024 at 12:48 pm
@Marine Buc – It would be something else if there was a trade for Parsons!
There are a lot of rumors about Parsons being traded too.
April 12th, 2024 at 12:59 pm
I don’t know man.
Boss types “we” a lot.
April 12th, 2024 at 1:07 pm
I ONLY follow the bucs….and the last coule playoff games
not sure why folks think I am so negative. Thought it was concensus that todd was a below average coach….
he did get the young guys going. Then again, there are guys who can do that, then there are guys who are finishers.
April 12th, 2024 at 1:27 pm
Hope he does not find another gem like Plan 9.
April 12th, 2024 at 1:41 pm
If Latu is there at 20 we have to trade up. He would be game changing. We could find a G/C in the 2nd or 3rd round.
April 12th, 2024 at 1:56 pm
I think it would take trading Godwin to get Parsons. Dallas isnt stupid enough to trade for JTS even if we throw in our first round pick.
April 12th, 2024 at 2:30 pm
if bo nixxx is sitting there in the 2nd round when we pick……..i’m taking him…
that’s all i have to say on that
April 12th, 2024 at 2:34 pm
lovie = many regimes ago……….holy sheet…..lol
April 12th, 2024 at 2:36 pm
I never predict trades. Its way to difficult.
If we have to have a player at 20, will he be worth the 3rd round pick we have to give up? This draft, you can find some great O linemen in round 3
Or wewant to add picks.
Who will be available at 26, that another team just cant live without?
Dont we want that player?
If not, is it worth moving back?
High draft picks are like a steak at Burns. You are getting the best you can afford.
Trading back can sometimes be like dinner at Golden corral.
Trading quality for Quantity.
If you are starving- Like the Bucs, sometimes quantity just hits the spot
April 12th, 2024 at 2:41 pm
We arent strangers to the neck fusion surgery that Latu underwent.
Mike Allstott had a cadaver bone fused into his neck, to try and continue his career.
Unfortunately, it didnt work out
April 12th, 2024 at 3:06 pm
Speaking of “emotional”, does anyone remember the Booker Reese fiasco?
April 12th, 2024 at 3:32 pm
Yep and DE more recently who I can not remember his name, the guy that did a snow angel move after getting one of his rare sacks
April 12th, 2024 at 5:33 pm
Still think Latu’s neck is too big of a risk for round 1.
April 12th, 2024 at 5:45 pm
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