BSPN: Bucs Need To Trade Up For A Corner
April 9th, 2024
Toledo CB Quinyon Mitchell.
So Joe found someone who also believes the Bucs need a cornerback more than burning a first-round pick on a center, or worse, a guard.
Sadly, the person who agree also just happens to be a nemesis of Joe.
(For the record, the other Joe at JoeBucsFan.com world headquarters thinks drafting a cornerback in Round 1 would be a grave error.)
Follicly-challenged Billy Barnwell of BSPN believes the Bucs need a corner badly and the team cannot idly stand pat hoping a quality corner falls to them. Thus, Barnwell believes Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht needs to be aggressive, trade up and land a quality corner.
26. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
What they should do: Trade up.The Bucs are another team in the cornerback market after trading Carlton Davis to the Lions, and while they could stay put and still land help at that position, they’ll have to contend with the Packers, Eagles and Dolphins, all of whom should also be thinking corner. The Chiefs (No. 32) might also be in a position to try to trade up with the Cowboys or Packers to grab a replacement for L’Jarius Sneed, which could prod Tampa Bay to get more aggressive in moving up.
Billy, however, doesn’t offer any specific corner the Bucs should target. It’s possible/hopeful if the Bucs stand pat that Kool-Aid McKinstry of Alabama could be on the board.
This isn’t a deep cornerback class, which is why Billy probably thinks Licht should trade up. Even guys like Alabama’s Terrion Arnold, Clemson’s Nate Wiggins and Iowa’s Cooper DeJean have major question marks.
So would Licht be able to trade up for Toledo star Quinyon Mitchell? Joe decided to share what Emory Hunt of CBS, the Czar of the Playbook, wrote about Mitchell in Hunt’s “Football Gameplan 2024 Draft Guide.”
Strengths:
– Good size and athleticism for the position. Does an excellent job of playing through the hands of the receiver, both when driving back toward the ball, and also when going vertical downfield.
– Very good recovery speed, gets him right back into the play if beaten initially. Above average twitch to shuffle, plant and accelerate. Shows a very good speed turn as well.
– Best week of work during the Senior Bowl, really had his way with wideouts throughout the week.Areas of Improvement:
– Tends to have a little hitch when trying to snap out of his backpedal/break. Takes one too many steps, which doesn’t get him back to the ball in time.
– Gets a bit jumpy, which leaves him susceptible to double moves.
– Leans back too far within his backpedal, which doesn’t give him the pad level to either get an effective stab at the line of scrimmage or to fluidly turn and run with receivers.
This draft class is not that great for corners. So if there aren’t any standouts, what’s the point of trading up?
But yeah, it is scary to agree with Billy Barnwell: It would not shock Joe if the Bucs drafted a corner in the first round.
Amid a sea of NIL deals, Quinyon Mitchell remained a Toledo Rocket, professing: ‘I’m loyal to those who are loyal to me.’ His NCAA-leading 27 pass breakups over two seasons are a testament to his commitment on and off the field. CB1. pic.twitter.com/twGyoxIPMr
— Kyle Lindemann (@LuckIsMadeFF) April 3, 2024
April 9th, 2024 at 3:19 am
Eh honestly I think Jason filled the holes we needed with free agency. This seems like depth and bpa, especially with what he’s been saying. Obviously there’s places to improve such as guard, center, and edge rush, but I don’t think we’re going to force anything.
April 9th, 2024 at 3:41 am
omg here we go again…
this cb talk is making me nuts already…lol…
we don’t need a corner right away…
a savvy 3rd day pic should be in order for a cb – unless you are truly done with dean and unloading him before the trade deadline, or after the season like they did with cd3 – and i don’t particularly think that’s the case at this time
April 9th, 2024 at 3:44 am
Na dog, we trading up for a kicker 🙂
April 9th, 2024 at 3:50 am
I’m trying to think of what Jason Licht and the Bucs are thinking. If they think they can draft the next Ryan Jensen, I believe they wouldn’t hesitate to use a 1st Rounder on a Center.
Do I think they’d trade up for Mitchell? Unlikely, although I think he’s good. I would guess a 2nd or one of the 3rds will used on a CB, that’s where Licht found Davis and Dean.
April 9th, 2024 at 4:23 am
We dont need a Cb.
I dont know how anyone who watched the team last year could think that we do!
Where do you think he will play?
Dean is on a big contract. He aint going nowhere. Zyon McCollum showed real promise last year. So did Christian Izien.
Thats your 3 starters. With the addition of Tavi Thomas and Brice Hall, our depth is much improved.
So if we draft a CB, where is he gonna play?
Guess we can sit him next to Kyle Trask, Logan Hall, and JTS.
Just start a collection of wasted or useless draft pick.
Meybe we draft a WR in the first round. That way he can sit in the bench, watching Evans,Godwin, and Palmer.
Plus- we can tie up half the teams salary in WRs!
Does anyone actually watch the games, or is everyone drunk by the end of the first quarter?
April 9th, 2024 at 4:52 am
Sorry Joe, I have to agree with others. Wait until the later rounds for a cornerback. We have other needs in the early rounds.
April 9th, 2024 at 5:17 am
I have no issue with spending a 1st rounder on a CB – it’s a premium position.
But I also have no issue with spending a 1st rounder on a C/LG. Think about how many almost-sacks didn’t show up on the stat-sheet because Baker was able to wriggle out of them. Shoring up the interior OL would be a good investment – and would also help improve the blocking for Rachaad White. So you’d be supporting 2 positions with 1 pick.
April 9th, 2024 at 5:28 am
CB depth on day 3 — no earlier. A LOT of Bucs fans will be upset if the Bucs pick a CB in the 1st rd. Build the trenches! Top 3 Edge, C or trade back.
April 9th, 2024 at 5:45 am
I have to disagree with the majority and say we do need a number 1 CB.
Yes we need better and more consistant 4man pass rush no doubt.
But dont over estimate our CBs situation and the importance of the position.
I dont understand why most of Bucs fans think that Zyon will be ready and good to start. Its like a foregone conclusion that he will be good and better than Davis and from the things i ve seen so far i cant be sure about that.Maybe he will be good maybe not but i havent noticed huge improvement to feel optimistic about that.
And we do need a better C and G for sure.
I dont know who we ll pick nor do i have a specific preference i just hope he is good
Go Bucs
April 9th, 2024 at 5:52 am
This is a useless take by these guys and it’s clear that they Do Not truly understand our most urgent needs. Poor judgment call.. I find it to be disappointingly LAZY, “guessing”!
In the Buccaneers case ONLY A “M O R ON” would trade up and WAIST CRITICAL DRAFT CAPITAL on a corner when we are actually ok in the corner department and IT IS NOT a critical need. IT’S NOT EVEN A TOP 3 NEED!
“Moving up” for a corner IS JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!
COME ON MAN! THAT’S LAZY!
April 9th, 2024 at 6:12 am
OL and Edge…anything else early will be cray cray
April 9th, 2024 at 6:32 am
No corner in the first 2 rounds TYVM.
April 9th, 2024 at 6:39 am
Oline and edge rush before cb
April 9th, 2024 at 7:03 am
There are always exceptions: All World Guard selected sixth overall 2018 draft. Quenton Nelson.
April 9th, 2024 at 7:04 am
We do not need a corner before a center or edge rusher it’s that simple. We can get a corner in the third round because we got Bryce hall and Thomas in free agency. I really hope JPJ is our first pick so Joe can have a meltdown and cry for weeks about it
April 9th, 2024 at 7:11 am
I really have no strong opinion on whether the Bucs should draft a corner.
Or whether Kool-Aid McKinstry or Cooper DeJean is a better pick.
But let’s look at the two.
NFL.com ratings.
6.39 McKinstry. 4th rated.
6.34 DeJean. 6th rated.
Draft Buzz
88.0 McKinstry. 4th rated.
87.7 DeJean. 5th rated.
Measurements:
McKinstry. 5 11 1/2 feet. 199lbs. 32 arms. 8 1/2 hands.
4.47 forty. 34.5 Vertical. 10 feet 1 inch Broad jump. Ras 7.54
DeJean. 6 0 1/2 feet. 203lbs. 31 1/8 arms. 9 5/8 hands.
4.42 forty. 38.5 Vertical. 10 feet 4 inch Broad Jump. Ras 9.89.
Production last 3 years.
McKinstry. 93 tackles. 5 for loss. 2 sacks. 2 Ints. 23 PD.
DeJean. 120 tackes. 7 for loss. No sacks. 7 Ints. 3 returned for TDs. 13 PD.
Return potential:
DeJean has returned punts. 31 for a 13-yard average and 1 TD.
Kool-aid has returned punts. 35 for a 12-yard average and no TDs.
Somehow, De
April 9th, 2024 at 7:12 am
I just hope we trade up for a long-snapper
April 9th, 2024 at 7:13 am
Somehow, Kool-Aid is a great pick and DeJean is a tweener.
I do not get that analysis.
April 9th, 2024 at 7:20 am
By the way, Kool-Aid has a Jones Fracture to his foot. It has not been repaired. I think it was Kevin Jones of the Lions, a running back, where a Jones fracture ruined his career.
April 9th, 2024 at 7:28 am
Corners mean nothing if the QB has all day to throw. Get Laiatu Latu please. If you have to trade up, trade our extra 3rd round pick.
April 9th, 2024 at 7:35 am
I’d be shocked if we grabbed a CB. The team wouldn’t have traded away Davis if they didn’t think McCollum was the real deal. They schemed hard in the playoffs to find ways to get him on the field. They really like him.
April 9th, 2024 at 7:46 am
Trade up to guarantee JPJ
April 9th, 2024 at 7:57 am
The Bucs do a great job with developing corners taken in later rounds so the only way I want one with the first pick is if he is also a phenomenal punt returner.
April 9th, 2024 at 8:10 am
Trade up for a corner? LOL. Idiots and morons. Morons and idiots. No wonder they’re going down the tubes.
April 9th, 2024 at 8:10 am
The closer we get to the draft the more I think they go CB/WR in round 1, I dont even want that, I would rather trade back.
April 9th, 2024 at 8:12 am
Captain Tim I don’t think you watched very many games last year. With our experience starters and those guys you said show promise, which they really did the bucs were one of the worst past defensive teams last year. Such to the point that was our Achilles heel or known as their Achilles heel on defense was the passing game. While I do believe in building in the trenches,a shutdown corner crew is an absolute must and a foundation start to sacks. If the quarterback cannot find an open receiver that gives a defensive lineman more time to hunt and chase him down. So depending on player available to me depends on position they pick from out of three positions they really can’t go too long so, inTodd I trust
April 9th, 2024 at 8:14 am
Capt Tim – you made me spew coffee. LOL, your next promotion is pending.
April 9th, 2024 at 8:37 am
If some elite CB falls to us while other positions run dry sure, but this fan base will be livid if we trade up for a corner.
I get it from outside sources tho. They just see bad pass D rankings + us trading Carlton Davis and think corner is a #1 need, but are missing the bigger picture and didn’t watch the games.
April 9th, 2024 at 8:51 am
With the defensive masturmind calling non-linear differential equations and 8 yard off-coverage, when it’s 3rd and 3, we could have hall of famers or scrubs playing DB and it wouldn’t matter. Invest in the front 7 and coach them up. Maybe rush the passer by beating the blocks instead of blitzing exotically. Hire a real defensive coordinator who doesn’t have to be distracted by head coaching duties, and let Todd be the CEO coach who can solve all the players’ personal and financial problems.
Too bad Todd’s ego won’t let him come to this conclusion because he is a genius.
April 9th, 2024 at 9:07 am
Drunk by the first quarter sounds like me lol. I think one of the things that is seldom brought up is the fact the Bucs sell out to stop the run. Opposing offenses seldom even try to run on this team. When the other team is passing because they are struggling to run the ball it has to inflate the catches and yardage given up doesn’t it?
April 9th, 2024 at 9:49 am
Wiggins is good value at #26 if he were to be on the board. I would be happy with Wiggins at 26 if Turner, Verse, Latu, JPJ and Barton are all off the board.
NO to Kool-Aid.
April 9th, 2024 at 9:54 am
Stay pat at #26. I like having the extra pick in the 3rd round. Plug holes and build depth. You need all your picks to do that.
April 9th, 2024 at 10:53 am
Bowels will develop a mid round DB. Stay at 26 if Latu, JPJ, or Barton are available, if not, move down to the top of rd2.
If Licht really likes JPJ, Barton, or an OT, I hope he moves up to beat Jerry Jones to the OL guy. Licht could take an OT at 26, then the Bucs move him to G, or we move Goedeke to G.
April 9th, 2024 at 11:03 am
Christos,
Why do I think Think Zyon McCollum is ready to Start?
Easy. He played more defeneive snaps that either Dean or Davis.
He was our number one corner last year. And like any first year starter, he had a few bumps along the way. But he played better than Dean or Davis. Hes bigger, faster, and and much better at Zone defense. Davis and and Dean or primarily man to man corners- which we very seldom play.
Plus I pointed out over a dozen times last year- Dean and Davis both quit on the team last year. Those of you who really watch the team knew that- and werent at all surprised when Licht shipped Davis ass to Detroit.
But, then again- if you didnt know that Zyon started the most games at CB, then you really dont watch the team at all, so Im wasting my time. You didnt know Zyon was on the field!!
So sure, I can see why you’d want to draft a Cb. Probably a QB first, then a CB, then A WR. Maybe a left tackle too! Thats a position on a football team, isnt it? Probsbly need to draft 4 or 5 of those this year!
Lets just draft one of everything! Cant go wrong with that!
April 9th, 2024 at 11:27 am
“Follicly-challenged.” Hilarious. Love it.
The Bucs are in position to the the best available player, but could trade up a bit if a Bowers or Verse, for example, drops into range. For the zone scheme the Bucs favor, they can get by with a second tier corner so long as they have a pass rush.
April 9th, 2024 at 12:18 pm
It’s odd that some would point out that Hainsey was the 32nd rated center by PFF last year.
But then leave out that Baker was the 19th rated QB
or now
That McCollum was the 114th rated CB out of 127.
Davis was 68th. Dean was 26th.
It seems people only use PFF when it supports their narrative.
April 9th, 2024 at 12:32 pm
Adoni Mitchell wide receiver Texas.
April 9th, 2024 at 12:56 pm
i totally forgot about tavi thomas…
i keep thinking add dee delaney…
so we don’t even need to be drafting a cb at all, with tavi also in the mix…
we are totally set back there…and still — hopefully add delaney in as well on ps or something, and bump him up upon the first injury…
totally forgot thomas when thinking of the group…
cornerback should completely be off the board imho…
unless at some point one becomes bpa and completely unresistable
April 9th, 2024 at 6:44 pm
Not sure what draft you are looking at Joe but this draft is particularly strong at corner. ARNOLD, MITCHELL, WIGGINS, DEJEAN, MCKINSTRY, TAMPA all would be strong first round picks not rro mention a host of players in the second round.
April 9th, 2024 at 8:57 pm
I have faith in zyon.