How Close Are The Bucs And Baker Mayfield?
March 6th, 2024
“Sorry Jason, I meant ‘bucks’ not ‘Bucs.'”
So yesterday a Baker Mayfield status report surfaced.
It seems a member of the local pen and mic club was tipped off that pending free agent quarterback Baker Mayfield and the Bucs basically have a deal in place and an announcement come as early as today.
Jenna Laine of ESPN later had a follow-up to that Twitter (as did other media) and her intel is telling her a far different story.
@JennaLaineESPN: Saw a report floating around about a new deal for Baker Mayfield being “essentially done.” That’s not true, per multiple sources involved.
OK, “not done” could mean many things. Technically, a handshake deal could be in place but “not done” meaning pen hasn’t yet met paper.
Does “not done” mean the only thing not agreed upon (yet) is that Team Glazer hasn’t signed off to stock Mayfield’s stadium suite with Big Storm Beer? Does it mean Mayfield doesn’t have to pay extra for an upgraded road hotel room?
Or, could it be that the Bucs and Mayfield are not yet in the same area code on a price?
“Not done” could mean all sorts of trivial things and not the meat and potatoes of the deal. Joe remembers reporting on a Friday in 2019 that the Bucs would announce their new head coach the following Tuesday and fans should expect it to be Bruce Arians. Several local media members ran to Twitter to scream fake news. And yes, the Bucs officially hired Arians on that Tuesday.
Saw a report floating around about a new deal for Baker Mayfield being “essentially done.” That’s not true, per multiple sources involved.
— JennaLaineESPN (@JennaLaineESPN) March 6, 2024
March 6th, 2024 at 12:48 pm
I have no doubt Bakefield is in. None.
March 6th, 2024 at 12:50 pm
Rick Stroud blocked me on Twitter that day for simply saying “Happy Tuesday, Rick!” He was not happy to be wrong that day. Too funny!
March 6th, 2024 at 12:52 pm
Hopefully the hold up is the prospect of signing Cousins.
March 6th, 2024 at 1:00 pm
The important thing is what has Beckles heard. That’s the lie.
March 6th, 2024 at 1:08 pm
Could it be? Could conventional talking head wisdom not prevail for the first time ever?
March 6th, 2024 at 1:13 pm
Russ plus the FA signings to give the Bucs a running game. Way better use of cash.
March 6th, 2024 at 1:15 pm
I agree Towered. I’d take Russ + Henry over Baker all day. As long as we draft Penix.
March 6th, 2024 at 1:22 pm
I’m dying to see this deal done. Decades of being a Bucs fan have me in cold sweats waiting to read the Bucs offered Baker Mayfield a two day old egg salad sandwich and a can of warm soda because they’re hot to ink Jameis Winston to a Russel Wilson type contract then are saving the rest of their cap space to lure Myron Lewis out of retirement so Mayfield and David signed with Carolina in the name of revenge. The Bucs have a proper front office trinity in Licht, Spytek and Greenberg. Spytek should be a GM somewhere else by now. We are so blessed relative to the lost decade and the decades prior to that that made the lost decade look and feel relatively good and feel easy. The Bucs front office was always as bad as these guys are good. So many years of preposterously dumb off season moves has my mind playing tricks on me like Bushwick Bill. Get it done puh-leeeeeees.
March 6th, 2024 at 1:24 pm
Thank you! 🙂
March 6th, 2024 at 1:29 pm
Come on. It’s been done. No way Winfield gets the tag if it wasn’t done.
March 6th, 2024 at 1:30 pm
In all honesty, with ME13 signed I would of expected an announcement of Mayfield right after. Seeing how this hasn’t happened must mean the 2 sides aren’t even close.
March 6th, 2024 at 1:30 pm
Another site indicates that Baker’s agent is coming in at 44 mil a year, whoa!!
March 6th, 2024 at 1:31 pm
Bakers most likely waiting to test the open market
March 6th, 2024 at 1:33 pm
If that’s true RGA, then I say let him walk, he’s not a 44 mil a year qb,
March 6th, 2024 at 1:38 pm
Keimosabe…I’m with you. Just so long as you’re not Rod Munch under a different screen name.
44 million is ludicrous.
March 6th, 2024 at 1:45 pm
Let him go, we don’t need him for 30-35mil a year, he will go back to his old ways, let’s just move on and get Penix and Henry!!!
March 6th, 2024 at 1:47 pm
Question I have is that after we bring back Mayfield and David, is there any one that we could still go out and sign ? How much money would we even have left ? What about Chase McLaughlin ?
March 6th, 2024 at 1:49 pm
Happy to do my part, Joe!!
March 6th, 2024 at 1:56 pm
Rusty, it seems that Bucs fans should settle for keeping their own players as of they won it all last year. No need for aggressive moves or true value assessments.
March 6th, 2024 at 1:59 pm
Maybe they do let him test free agency and he settles.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:02 pm
Bucswild813 Says:
March 6th, 2024 at 1:15 pm
“I agree Towered. I’d take Russ + Henry over Baker all day. As long as we draft Penix.”
Penix is probably the dumbest pick a Gm could make unless as a plan B contingency or backup. Significant history of injuries and A qb that doesn’t move well.
What could go wrong?
As for Russ. The chief dimwad pushing him didn’t even realize his contract situation until I pointed it out. Russ is around a one year plan before you have to start paying him what you likely can’t pay because Denver no longer will be.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:09 pm
Wow RGA- 44?!? I wish we could post links. I should have known Mayfield would be negotiating like he runs on 3rd downs. I’m all about him signing at just about any number but he and his agent are trying to truck a LB for a 1st with that figure. I admire the spirit though and I imagine he and his agent are like, “Daniel Jones will not be playing for more money than me after I won you a playoff game for mediocre third down back money when you were in cap hell.” He’s got about as much leverage as a man can have in this negotiation. It will be north $40 mil methinks though. Everything in life keeps getting preposterously expensive. At least the Bucs will not be in the Giants shoes paying Eli Manning’s stunt double like he is actually going to win them division, or will they tech the same conclusion NYG fans have next year? I’ll be entertained regardless of outcomes and I appreciate that. Win or lose, on my team or not- I appreciate a player that’s full or piss and vinegar like Mayfield is. Brady changed Trask’s mechanics and if he catches Mayfield’s grit he could have be a marvelous long term construction/hell of a starter in a number of years. It’s a little ridiculous how much my mind is spinning over this deal but QB is sort of the most important position. Hopefully I will post and refresh and see the headline with whatever numbers they land on.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:10 pm
#13 didn’t resign without assurance Baker (or someone better) is the qb next year
March 6th, 2024 at 2:13 pm
LOL Bake wants 40 per
Hahahaha
Kyle Trask will be the starting QB.
FSU hearts breaking all over.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:13 pm
Drama is good for business.
We have Jason calling the shots. We’re good.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:13 pm
RGA Says:
March 6th, 2024 at 1:30 pm
Another site indicates that Baker’s agent is coming in at 44 mil a year, whoa!!
…….
That does not surprise me at all and probably has incentives and escalators that will get him up to around $50M.
THAT IS THE MARKET BUC FANS.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:16 pm
BakerFan Says : “THAT IS THE MARKET BUC FANS”
Not for a mediocre QB it isn’t.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:17 pm
Let Baker walk.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:26 pm
I wonder if Cousins would take 40m per year sign em to a 1 year deal since he always plays lights out on a contract year lol
March 6th, 2024 at 2:29 pm
Just read that BM wants 45m annually. That’s insane. I’d rather sign TWO edge rushers, a new safety and a new G/C with that. We will be better with that team and trask than overpaying for one playee
March 6th, 2024 at 2:29 pm
Buc1987 Says:
March 6th, 2024 at 2:16 pm
BakerFan Says : “THAT IS THE MARKET BUC FANS”
Not for a mediocre QB it isn’t.
……
You will just hide and watch, but don’t cry when it happens.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:34 pm
That is not the market, BakerAgentIntern. No matter how loud you and the others proclaim it.
If that report is true that our guys are coming in at 25 then we are truly in good hands. They’ll land at about 32 or he can walk. In Licht I must trust
March 6th, 2024 at 2:36 pm
32 with incentives.* Hehehehe
March 6th, 2024 at 2:36 pm
Relax people. Jason has this. It’s high stakes holdem at this point and Jason actually has a ton of chips no one – no one – else has. He knows and Baker camp knows who the other QB options are, and who the other teams are that would pay Baker.
Jason has this.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:37 pm
40 mil? Thats what Ive said all along, although I was hoping It was a lil high.
We dont have to pay it.
But someone else will.
Then Mayfield will curb stomp us everytime we see him. Pray its not the falcons!
Then we’ll all be sitting on the Couch in December. Looking at early Mock drafts.
Watching Baker leading the Falcons in the payoffs.
Hating life to a degree that is unimaginable today.
And there wont be a single hater or Traskovite on this site.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:41 pm
Trask will be the starting QB and Capt Tim will be a Falcons fan.
Seems like a win win.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:45 pm
why do we even need bake considering we have the popcorn eating, end zone dancing, jump ball dropping, cost us another SB, greatest all-time WR, Mike friigin Evans.
He can make any qb look good. or so I have heard..
March 6th, 2024 at 2:45 pm
Watching Mayfield lead another team in the Playoffs.
Will be like watching Doug Williams Lead The Redskins to the SuperBowl.
Or Watching Steve Young collecting SuperBowl rings.
Or Trent Dilfer leading the Ravens thru the Playoffs, and winning the ring.
If you havent experienced that yet- its not fun.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:48 pm
Give me Cousins for $25m or Russ for cheap before giving Baker $40m. No thanks. Allow another team to overpay for top 12-15 QB play.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:48 pm
According to reports Mayfield’s agent started at 44m and the Bucs started at 25m. Expect them to meet in the middle around 35m. The question is how many years is the deal for.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:49 pm
Baker isn’t worth 40 let alone 44. He hasn’t proven he can be consistent. Let’s not pretend he didn’t have multiple games last year that he played terrible in. The overall stats for the year were relatively good, but it was up and down from week to week. I think in between 30 to 35 for 3 years with incentives with like 50 or 60 guaranteed sounds reasonable for both sides. If he plays like a above average QB then the incentives will pay him like one. I trust Licht to make the right decision. There are a couple other options out there like Cousins and Brisset. You can’t handicap the team by overpaying Baker because he’s not good enough to make up for the lack of talent if you do. The goal is to get the core back and ADD to the team so we can be BETTER this year, not over pay and bring the same team back cuz you have no money left.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:49 pm
Boss – are you really a moron or do you just play one on this website?
March 6th, 2024 at 2:49 pm
Dom Says:
March 6th, 2024 at 2:11 pm
Pewter Reort is saying that Bakers camp came in at 44M per year and the Bucs at 25M per year.
The problem isn’t all these rampant speculations. They are what they are. Its that a great deal of dimwits repeat it a few times and then drop the “Pewter is reporting” and then it becomes fact what baker is asking 40 or 44 million.
All so they can spew hate when they don’t even know if its true.
That said – IF I am the bucs – not paying 40s but then again if I am Baker’s agent and we are in the low 20s with the bucs I am leaning heavily on him to go to free agency.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:51 pm
The ’40s would be okay if he got there via incentives, because that would mean he was killing it
March 6th, 2024 at 2:51 pm
Dave Pear Says:
March 6th, 2024 at 2:49 pm
Boss – are you really a moron or do you just play one on this website?
Wait. Am I mixing up names or wasn’t boss the guy that said he was gone for five years?
March 6th, 2024 at 2:52 pm
Boss still in shambles about Mike Evans signing to a fair deal lol. The guy played with back up level QB’s like Mike Glennon, Josh McCown, Jameis Winston, and Ryan Fitzpatrick the first six years of his career and produced WR1 numbers for 6 straight years in spite of it. And now hes been doing it for 10 straight years. I thought you said we wouldn’t be seeing you in a few years
March 6th, 2024 at 2:52 pm
What if the Bucs sign Kirk Cousins and he’d lead the Bucs to a better record than Minnesota of two years ago squeaking out “YOU LIKE THAT!?!” in the tunnel after the game all those years ago. That was horrible. Humiliation beyond measure. Dude has more dogs in his basement than young Mike Vick by the way but that is only because he and his wife run a stray dog rescue of of their basement. He was slinging it like a boss on the Morning Cup of Joe. Maybe Cousins would take a “I am such an innately virtuous NERD” discount to leave cap room for the kicker? I will never forgive him for taking over the third quarter on the Bucs his rookie year in Ray Jay. Blowing up like that in our house and then popping his mouth off like he did scarred my fan hood but pirates/buccaneers rock scars well. His favorite band is ‘Creed’ because they rock with their Christian message by the way. I’m serious. Please Licht sign the QB whose you know what is swinging to his knees. Not Teddy Bridgewater, but he is for real. That seems like it would be a curse. I remember when fans were clamoring to draft Teddy to Tampa way back when. He would be a decent value option at this point. Just sign Mayfield. Licht doesn’t have much leverage beyond the draft and a bad trade-up. It’ll be north of $40 mil.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:52 pm
And “Mostly Peaceful Trask fan” will have changed his post name, and will be on Joebuc frequently. Calling his boy Kyle a worthless POS, and screaming for Jason Licht to be fired, and rode outa town on a rail.
Ive been here for a decade, pal. Never a name change. You know why?
Because I dont ever support brain dead Ideas!
Like letting a 28 year old elite QB leave the team.
Or starting a Noodle armed bust at QB .
Starting picking out your next poster name, cause you wont want to keep that one long.
It’ll be in the recycle bin, with all the “Glennon is God” names
March 6th, 2024 at 2:53 pm
BakerFan …if Baker sucks next season….you’ll have to change your name.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:57 pm
Dave Pear…btw…you’re an idiot.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:58 pm
Boss and Oneilgirl should get married, have a kid, and set the record for dumbest offspring in the history of beings who walk upright.
March 6th, 2024 at 2:59 pm
Wait – Suc1987 just set a new record.
March 6th, 2024 at 3:01 pm
1987 – you’re too stupid to realize it but all of your drivel stating what the Bucs should or shouldn’t do is the opposite of what Jason Licht does. I support his work, so you are calling Jason Licht an idiot. That’s rich coming from your grandma’s spare room.
March 6th, 2024 at 3:02 pm
@ dave dom & tony
you ladies just do NOT know football and sure as hell do not know people.
I manage careers daily…and bakes best year was pathetic considering the circumstances and talent. he is a one read qb who focuses on mike and the play is over by the time he looks past him, which leafs him to fighting LB’s…he can not read defenses.the should have let mike walk and sent lovie packing last year.
we should have let mike and bake walk and traded CD for an edge guy. drafted WR and OL and would have 50 mill laying around for free agents.
this is a running team spending all their coin on WR’s and QB
IN WHAT WORLD DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
March 6th, 2024 at 3:04 pm
Dave pear got bakes baby batter in his brain..
March 6th, 2024 at 3:05 pm
OK…. everybody laugh, but when the $$ start rolling next week on QB’s I believe all you cheap skates on this board are going to crap your pants…. It is just not Baker, some are saying Cousins can get $50, with Dak I will lose playoffs games for you, coming in near $60M
It is the market, the crazy ass market. Like Real Estate on the coast in FL, maybe now you guys can get it.
March 6th, 2024 at 3:05 pm
hey 87, call me bro
March 6th, 2024 at 3:08 pm
Wow – I just read a report that stated the Bucs and Mayfield are @ $20M per season apart and the Bucs are letting Baker test free agency because (just like Mike Evans) the initial price tags are delusional…
I am very happy that the Bucs are letting Baker test free agency instead of walking into the same QB trap that the Giants, Broncos, Browns, Cardinals, Saints, Seahawks, Titans and Raiders all have been caught in.
March 6th, 2024 at 3:12 pm
The only thing on this team worth 40mil is the playing of AWJ. It literally won us more than one game. It was incredible. That’s where the money should go in today’s NFL. The player that can make the plays to bring the wins to the team and gives the fans something to be be inspired and amazed by. Stop over paying one position just because it’s the way it’s been done. Baker isn’t even in this conversation without AWJ.
March 6th, 2024 at 3:13 pm
Boss – congratulations! You will be named the next GM of the Bucs!
You and your great pretend internet facade are the perfect resume’ as the Glazers look to replace the boneheaded Licht for all these moves that you criticize, which have resulted in 4 consecutive playoff years, 3 consecutive division titles and the ability to acquire FA players at the right time and money to keep it going after successfully going all in on a second Lombardi.
Can’t wait for your regime to begin.
March 6th, 2024 at 3:13 pm
Greatttt Rachaad White was on IG Live and typed in the chat he wants to go to the Raiders. Devin White 2.0
March 6th, 2024 at 3:14 pm
Cute – 87 and Floss have a Bromance
March 6th, 2024 at 3:15 pm
With Evans you could literally any QB behind center and he would make them look good. You don’t to invest 30 mil plus on Cousin or Mayfield because Bowles will not take this team to the superbowl anyway. Save the money and build the team for a good head coach when he finally gets canned.
March 6th, 2024 at 3:16 pm
Jay – relaxed, Rachaad ain’t that good and he flaps his tap a lot. He got some bad advice from somewhere that he should be aggressive. Haha. No worries.
March 6th, 2024 at 3:16 pm
Amen marine buc. In each instance, the teams over priced these dudes and forgot about the rest of the team. Buyers remorse is real and I’m glad JL doesn’t seem to have a palate for it
March 6th, 2024 at 3:17 pm
Hey All – Floss assures us that Evans sucks, and therefore knows better than everyone else who knows he’s a HOF player.
March 6th, 2024 at 3:17 pm
Good luck season ticket sales department. No idea if we’ll get a consistent performance at QB, which means tickets are a total crap shoot, especially with a very difficult home slate.
March 6th, 2024 at 3:18 pm
Dave Pear Says:
Boss and Oneilgirl should get married, have a kid, and set the record for dumbest offspring in the history of beings who walk upright.
I am not sure about that Dave. The free agency list with those qualifications is
wide and deep in these comment sections.
March 6th, 2024 at 3:19 pm
Bills are releasing Poyer. I’d like to see Licht take a run at him and slot him next to Winfield
March 6th, 2024 at 3:21 pm
I am sure Baker deal is done. If I had to guess why it is not announced it is because they need to make room by signing Wirfs to a long term deal. Thus less negative impact to the cap
March 6th, 2024 at 3:25 pm
If, in the example above, Jerry jones pays dak that kind of money, then that’s his dumbass sinking that team even further. That’s on him, but as a percentage of the total amount of the yrly salary cap who anywhere would find that to be even considered. The only thing dak has proved during this most recently overpriced contract of his is he can’t win it. He doesn’t have it. And if JJ wants to continue to spend that level of money then he’s getting revenue for that player from somewhere other than the Superbowl cause he ain’t gonna sniff it with that qb. Much like baker.
March 6th, 2024 at 3:26 pm
lol
pears daddy still pissed the condom broke
March 6th, 2024 at 3:27 pm
Marine Buc Says:
March 6th, 2024 at 3:08 pm
I am very happy that the Bucs are letting Baker test free agency
Because as usual you are a ntiwit. You read “a report” of which there have been many all over the place with different numbers and you go with it as fact and then extrapolate happiness out of it.
I just read a report that you are going to have a job with the bucs. You should be giddy now.
March 6th, 2024 at 3:27 pm
If he wants $40m, hit the road, Jack.
Let the Trask Era begin.
March 6th, 2024 at 3:28 pm
@ OlBoy
“If, in the example above, Jerry jones pays dak that kind of money, then that’s his dumbass sinking that team even further.”
I agree.
Maybe I would franchise tag Dak or just let him test free agency as well.
He is not worth a Pat Mahomes type contract… No way.
March 6th, 2024 at 3:33 pm
Some of the projections around $40MM sound very high, but if you look at the current market demand and what various tiers of QBs are earning, it’s not a reach to see Baker comping out around $35MM/per. If not the Bucs, someone will be willing to go with a four year deal of around $140 to $150MM. I don’t see the Bucs letting him go, and I don’t see Baker getting too greedy. The last thing that he wants is to start over again with a different club! The kid’s been through too much of that already.
So happy the deal is done with ME! The continuity counts big. Don’t forget that Bake and Mike have only played one season together. This season they’ll mesh even better.
March 6th, 2024 at 3:39 pm
LOL I am a prophet . I said they would drop the “pewter reports” soon and pretend like its a verified fact baker is demanding 44 million and BOOOM they obey my prophecy!
what shall the Theos tell me next?
March 6th, 2024 at 3:41 pm
Is Baker really better than Wilson + $30m? Is Baker really better than Fields + $35m? Is Baker better, straight up, than either, even if you take salary out of the equation?
Baker was 18th in QBR, 20th in scoring, and out of his final 8 regular season games, he only had 2 good games, he collapsed in the playoffs with the game on the line, he collapsed at the end of the regular season when the Bucs HAD to win one of their two final games.
With that said, I’d have no issues bringing Baker back FOR ONE YEAR to see if he can improve – but people talking about him like he’s a franchise QB are literally insane.
Anyways, we’ll see what Licht does. Everyone is always scared of change so they’ll over pay to keep him, but the question is, how much are they willing to overpay – and more importantly, for how many years.
Personally I don’t really see any scenario where Baker is a better deal than Wilson and three additional starters – or even Trask and four additional starters – certainly not when he will almost certainly fall off at least a little from his career year – when he was already a bottom half starter.
With that said, to be fair, Baker certainly overachieved last year when he bet on himself, and with the Bucs or somewhere else made himself a lot of money. That’s great. But man is the downside steep if you’re locked into a multi-year deal.
We’ll see how it plays out – but hopefully the Bucs are actually looking at the other options and not just stuck on the idea that since Baker was here, you must have him back. At the very least, I hope they’re using these other scenarios for negotiating power.
March 6th, 2024 at 3:41 pm
Wednesday’s are boring just waiting for Friday. Probably sitting back laughing at the media. This deal has been hashed out a long time ago and only requires pen to paper!
March 6th, 2024 at 3:42 pm
I read elsewhere that the Bucs and Mayfield are $ 20 million/year apart.
March 6th, 2024 at 3:47 pm
He isn’t going anywhere. His agents are trying for max value (surprise, they get a %) and Baker has been crapped on enough by the Browns that he’s gonna grab with both hands. That said, he has s HC that loves him, some stud WR that took a little less because he sort of likes what they can cook up. He sure as F is not going to just chase a $. Doubts? Check his answer last year on the Rams website regarding FA. Bucs give a fair contract and he’s locked in for 4 years, with a team out year 3 (thats how the NFL works)
March 6th, 2024 at 3:50 pm
The report a I heard yesterday at 4:30 was ‘Not close’ . Text Scott from PR received it while on air from someone in the discussions.
Hopefully the status improved to not done from not close. I can image that being the same situation just being described differently.
March 6th, 2024 at 3:50 pm
Miles well try to bring back Winston lol hear he doesn’t want to be a backup
March 6th, 2024 at 3:50 pm
“Rod Munch Says:
March 6th, 2024 at 3:41 pm
Is Baker really better than Wilson + $30m? Is Baker really better than Fields + $35m? ”
I’m pretty sure I’M better than Justin Fields
March 6th, 2024 at 3:51 pm
Baker’s contract will be much like Evan’s, reported as one thing, but in actuality a totally different breakdown. Just speculation on my part, but for sake of discussion, expect a three year deal at $120 million with $65-70 million guaranteed. Reality is, that it will be around the a 2 year deal with a club option for the third and the cap hit will be about $32-33 million for those two years.
March 6th, 2024 at 3:54 pm
Carson Wentz, Daniel Jones and DeShaun Watson are the three worst things that ever happened if you’re trying to negotiate a QB deal. Thats why i expect guaranteed money up front (about 1/4 of the whole deal), incentive heavy and a 3rd year out. Also explain Baker to be good with that, he’s not shy about betting on himself
Lock it in, the Bucs gonna have them a Mayfield next year, and it’s gonna be entertaining as F
March 6th, 2024 at 3:57 pm
I’m pretty sure it’s closer to a four year with a 5th year option $150 million half guaranteed.
March 6th, 2024 at 4:05 pm
Dave Pear Says:
March 6th, 2024 at 2:49 pm
Boss – are you really a moron or do you just play one on this website?
I can’t stop laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
March 6th, 2024 at 4:08 pm
Beeej Says:
I’m pretty sure I’M better than Fields
———-
Well, then it’s Beeej > Fields > Mayfield. Give the Bucs a call and get your millions!
March 6th, 2024 at 4:08 pm
Run forest run lol
March 6th, 2024 at 4:10 pm
Baker should follow the old saying ” a bird in hand is better than two in the bush.”
Reach for a compromise that allows the Bucs to keep quality teammates while at the same time giving him the sense of that the Bucs want him for the next three to four years. He knows what this front yard is like. Does he really want to learn the ends and outs of a new one.
March 6th, 2024 at 4:11 pm
I heard that Mayfield is asking or 200 mil a year, and a showgirl pulled chariot to bring him to games.
I heard the Bucs are ok with the money and the chariot- if Mayfield drops his demands for truffle filled oreos at every meal
The Truth of sports journalism. Its not reporting. Its showbiz.
They are only after headlines and hits.
No one is EVER gonna call them out, for lying.
No one is ever asking who their”source” was.
No matter what you think about Mayield, Trask, Wilson.
One thing is certain. You cannot trust anything that comes out of a sports reporters mouth.
Its sad. It was a profession that produced alot of tremendous reports.
But just like your evening News. The truth is no longer the objective.
The reports are probably being written and released by the Bucs.
If you are worried about fan reaction to paying a guy 35 mil,
The have the Press say the guy wants 45 mil.
Then, when fans see the 35, they are happy it wasnt 45.
Just another way to tell you how to think.
March 6th, 2024 at 4:11 pm
Rod Muncher says. but people talking about him like he’s a franchise QB are literally insane.
Isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black
March 6th, 2024 at 4:14 pm
LEARN TO READ – BAKER AND BUCS ARE NOT 20 Million APART
Realizing how daft people in these comments are I looked up the actual report.
From Pewter
“the Bucs and Mayfield’s camp were very far apart TO BEGIN WITH.
Then
“But Mayfield’s camp opened negotiations with an offer rumored to be at $44 million per year. The thinking there is that Mayfield is a better quarterback than New York Giants starter Daniel Jones, who makes an average of $40 million per season.
Tampa Bay is rumored to have either countered – or started – with an offer of $25 million per year,”
THESE WERE OPENING OFFERS PEOPLE – STANDARD PRACTICE IN NEGOTIATIONS NOT DEMANDS
AS the ARTICLE SAYS –
“Bucs fans shouldn’t be alarmed by those initial offers from Baker Mayfield’s agent and the team. That’s typical in negotiations.”
One starts high – the other starts low and then they work together from there
final quote
“The Bucs and Mayfield’s agent have made some progress from their initial talks in Indianapolis, but a deal does not appear to be imminent”
In other words THOSE ARE NOT THE NUMBERS NOW BUT WHEN THE NEGOTIATIONS STARTED AWHILE BACK
Put down your pitch forks and hatorades. Nothing to see here but normal negotiations. Same thing probably happened with Evans when reports were saying he wanted 35 million – just opening offers not demands to work down from going forward.
March 6th, 2024 at 4:18 pm
Cobraboy Says:
March 6th, 2024 at 3:42 pm
I read elsewhere that the Bucs and Mayfield are $ 20 million/year apart.
They are NOT
those reporting the article clearly did not understand it. I’ve corrected this but its got caught in mod filters.
March 6th, 2024 at 4:23 pm
“But Mayfield’s camp opened negotiations with an offer rumored to be at $44 million per year. The thinking there is that Mayfield is a better quarterback than New York Giants starter Daniel Jones, who makes an average of $40 million per season.”
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Why would Bakers camp even want to bring up the name Daniel Jones at all? Can’t they find a non-bust QB to compare him to? That’s considered probably the worst deal in the NFL, and that’s what the Baker clan uses as their negotiating tactic?
“Hey, here’s the worst contract in football – we want you to beat it!”
LOL!
March 6th, 2024 at 4:24 pm
20 mil apart.
LOL you thought you were getting a home town discount? Hahahaha
How many times did we tell you Baker is all about Baker.
Trask is the QB.
Time to move on.
Let’s sign RB, DE, LB and DBs with the money saved.
March 6th, 2024 at 4:27 pm
Capt.Tim Says:
The Truth of sports journalism. Its not reporting. Its showbiz.
They are only after headlines and hits.
No one is EVER gonna call them out, for lying.
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In this case cap I dont think they were lying but the people who posted it here as usual couldn’t read
They were merely describing standard opening offers negotiations from the combine days. standard routine – Bucs started at their low and the agent started at his high as a point from which to begin and move closer together on.
NO demands. if they gave way a bit on both sides then its probably going to be in the low 30s as many suspected. and that might be adjusted under incentives as well
March 6th, 2024 at 4:33 pm
@ Rod
“Why would Bakers camp even want to bring up the name Daniel Jones at all?”
It just goes to show you how delusional the members of the Baker cult are…
March 6th, 2024 at 4:33 pm
They are having trouble finding Pewter colored M&Ms to go with the Red for game day snacks. They tell me they’re in the works and everything is a go for Friday signing.
March 6th, 2024 at 4:36 pm
in what games was bake “the closer”
NONE!
March 6th, 2024 at 4:45 pm
Test
March 6th, 2024 at 4:47 pm
@ Boss
Well I would say he “closed” the door on our hopes to beat the Lions when he choked and threw the worst interception in Tampa play-off history…
So I am OK with calling him the “closer”.
March 6th, 2024 at 4:48 pm
Maybe Bucs should consider trading Carlton Davis for Justin Fields. Cap relief and a QB challenger.
March 6th, 2024 at 4:49 pm
@ Corbarboy
I also heard that Wilson could be in play.
Imagine only paying $1.2M for a mediocre QB instead of $44M…
Seems like a pretty easy decision to me.
March 6th, 2024 at 4:53 pm
Marine Buc Says:
It just goes to show you how delusional the members of the Baker cult are…
OR you and the other traskite since – no report said they actually said any QBs name.
March 6th, 2024 at 4:59 pm
Once FA starts, Baker is screwed. Russ and Kirk will take his potential landing spots. The other teams will draft a young gun. Bucs have Trask and the draft. Baker will have no leverage. He’d be lucky to get $18M x 2. Baker’s best option is to take what the Bucs are offering prior to FA.
March 6th, 2024 at 5:02 pm
@ Tony
I never once asked for Trask to be the starter silly boy.
Even the Joes here said that Baker was the better QB after watching the entire training camp.
Calm down buddy.
Once Baker realizes what is true market value is he will come crawling back to accept a reasonable contract with limited guaranteed money and a few incentives – just like Mike Evans just did…
March 6th, 2024 at 5:11 pm
If he wants to play hardball, let Atlanta pay him 160 for 4.
Roll with Trask, Wolford & JJ if he falls to 26 or Pratt later in the draft. Or sign a vet like Brissett.
I’m not a Traskateer or a Baker lover, so don’t anyone try to put me into your delusional mold.
Trask, if I had to GUESS, is a Brad Johnson type QB.
Brad was physically tougher that Kyle is, but my GUESS is that Kyle gets up to speed quicker in his career than Brad did.
Kyle is heady, more mobile than most think and would protect the ball.
Can the Bucs win a SB with a game manager Trask at QB (if that’s his ceiling)?
Answer: They won with Brad.
Brad won with an epic, elite defense, but Kyle would presumably have a better offense than Brad had under Gruden
^^mtnbucman^^
Since ’76
March 6th, 2024 at 5:12 pm
Marine Buc Says:
March 6th, 2024 at 5:02 pm
@ Tony Even the Joes here said that Baker was the better QB after watching the entire training camp.
LOL the closet traskite denies his identity and then confirms it
Common Traskite claim. In fact the joes in comment recently said point blank none of their comments about Trask were to the entire training camp NONE.
Your record today on reading is 0%
March 6th, 2024 at 5:23 pm
The Mayfield delusion is finally breaking.
Thank God.
March 6th, 2024 at 5:27 pm
@ Tony
Insults do not change reality.
Baker Mayfield is not an elite QB. He is a mediocre NFL QB.
Not worth $40+ million per season guaranteed…
That is insane.
March 6th, 2024 at 5:33 pm
@ Tony
For $1.2M I will take Russ Wilson instead of paying Baker $44M…
March 6th, 2024 at 5:38 pm
Marine Buc Says:
March 6th, 2024 at 5:27 pm
Not worth $40+ million per season guaranteed…
Great agreed so I guess the fact that he isn’t demanding that is good Eh?
Oh thats right you took your sweet time reading the pewter report and still got it wrong.
March 6th, 2024 at 5:42 pm
Marine Buc Says:
March 6th, 2024 at 5:33 pm
@ Tony
For $1.2M I will take Russ Wilson instead of paying Baker $44M…
Great and then whats the plan after the year? or you are like rod who didn’t understand Russ contract too?
March 6th, 2024 at 5:53 pm
@ Tony
“Great and then whats the plan after the year?”
We will have the same choices to make.
If Wilson plays well maybe he stays for another year or two.
If not – then we find the next QB off of the NFL scrap heap (just like Baker and Russ)
OR – we draft a QB or trade for one.
I would prefer all of these options over making the same mistake the Giants and Broncos made.
March 6th, 2024 at 5:59 pm
@marine Buc
scroll up where I showed everyone how you read the Pewter report wrong. NO one is at 40 million. Starting point s are points both sides EXPECT to come down from not demand.
March 6th, 2024 at 6:04 pm
@ Tony
I believe Baker’s agent initial offer was ridiculously high and maybe the Buc’s offer was low.
They will probably still end up meeting in the middle.
Like I have been saying for a few months now – 3 years $90M with $45M guaranteed with a 4th year option at @$40M (non-guaranteed).
Buc’s can bail out after year 2 and Baker can re-fill his bank account after his family robbed him…
March 6th, 2024 at 6:04 pm
Marine Buc Says:
If Wilson plays well maybe he stays for another year or two
Doesn’t matter how he plays. You still have to pay him because Denver w ill be clearing him out. I get it. Just like Rod you don’t know his situation.
March 6th, 2024 at 6:10 pm
@ Tony
I am well aware of Wilson’s contract situation. You aren’t the only guy with YouTube bud.
If Wilson plays well after year one (for $1.2M) then we re-sign him to a reasonable deal based on his level of play.
Just like we are now doing with Baker… It is the exact same situation. Find a QB in the trash can and sign him to the cheapest deal possible.
I like shopping at Ross.
March 6th, 2024 at 6:14 pm
Marine Buc Says:
March 6th, 2024 at 6:04 pm
I believe Baker’s agent initial offer was ridiculously high and maybe the Buc’s offer was low.
They will probably still end up meeting in the middle.
EXACTLY – same thing when you buy a house. The owner starts with a max price and you start at your lowest. But you guys get a snippet of a fraction of a normal negotiation process without even details as whether incentives etc are in there and you are off to the races with your silliness.
March 6th, 2024 at 6:16 pm
3 years $ 100 million …done
March 6th, 2024 at 6:24 pm
@ Tony
I wouldn’t be surprised if a deal was reached by Sunday night one minute before midnight.
$27-$33M per season would be fine with me as long as the Bucs can bail after year two.
March 6th, 2024 at 6:25 pm
Marine Buc Says:
March 6th, 2024 at 6:10 pm
If Wilson plays well after year one (for $1.2M) then we re-sign him to a reasonable deal based on his level of play.
Great then go ahead and convince Licht to approve your kick the bucket back a year and face the same decisions and salary issues plan with your losing record three year running QB thtats a locker room cancer and stop pretending like its a anything else.
March 6th, 2024 at 6:29 pm
Joes
How can you guys stand watching Tony Marks post 20 times on each article?
Or Baker fan say THAT IS THE MARKET over and over again?
Baker fans will FREAK OUT MORE with every day that passes.
That is a fact!!!!!
March 6th, 2024 at 6:32 pm
@ Tony
Paying only $1.2M for Wilson would allow the Bucs to repair their broken cap situation.
Over-paying Baker would do just the opposite…
March 6th, 2024 at 6:47 pm
BillyBucco Says:
March 6th, 2024 at 6:29 pm
How about this one Billycornhole. UP YOURS
March 6th, 2024 at 7:02 pm
How far apart are the Bucs and BM? Bucs have had official visits with 5 QBs in this years draft. All second tier guys but it’s interesting. Are the Bucs just doing due diligence or do they think the gap between what they want and what BM wants is too far apart?
March 6th, 2024 at 7:09 pm
Marine Buc Says:
Paying only $1.2M for Wilson would allow the Bucs to repair their broken cap situation.
Well you are right about that . You will have TON LOADS of cap space because by the time you finally can hold on to a QB that is good most of your free agents would have bolted to win.
March 6th, 2024 at 7:17 pm
@ Tony
Paying a starting QB only $1.2M will enable the Bucs to pay for other free agents and upgrading the team as well as paying for Wirfs’ new deal, LVD and re-signing our kicker.
Just the opposite of what you are saying.
March 6th, 2024 at 7:18 pm
Jenna is well connected, so I’d trust her information more than most.
March 6th, 2024 at 7:19 pm
@ USF
The report said they were $19M apart… The Bucs offered @ $25M per season and Baker wants @ $44M per season.
March 6th, 2024 at 7:25 pm
Damn $19M is a ways apart.
March 6th, 2024 at 7:27 pm
Wow Marine… that difference is huge. I wonder if he refused to play if he was franchised.?
March 6th, 2024 at 7:29 pm
Baker Mayfield will be back because he will see that ain’t no team giving him franchise quarterback money so he will be back. And he probably ain’t got no other team that wants him. But watch and see the new narrative Baker Mayfield chose the bucs over the other teams lol 🤣🤣 watch and see they’re going to push that lie to try and sale tickets. Just like now the truth finally came out about Brady and I told y’all that Brady didn’t choose the bucs. We were the only choice because the 49ers, Radiars said no and the Chargers would have but they didn’t want to pay the money the bucs paid him . And now the bucs media is about to push that same narrative about Baker Mayfield to get you guys hype to sale tickets lol 🤣🤣.
March 6th, 2024 at 7:31 pm
Oneil…you know the old saying that it only takes one.
March 6th, 2024 at 7:41 pm
Marine Buc Says:
Paying a starting QB only $1.2M will enable the Bucs to pay for other free agents and upgrading the team as well as paying for Wirfs’ new deal, LVD and re-signing our kicker.
yes I have seen the wingbat claims of how many players you can add – thus using up the cap space again for those players. You clean missed the point. You will have others with no good QB leaving because of wanting to win – not your cap.
March 6th, 2024 at 7:42 pm
@ mark
I would rather take a chance on Russ Wilson for $1.2M on a one year deal rather than pay $38M to Baker on a one year deal.
We found Baker in the dumpster we can do the same with Wilson…
March 6th, 2024 at 7:46 pm
@ Tony
I just don’t believe Baker Mayfield is all that much better than Russ Wilson.
It’s all about value.
Similar to the stock market – smart money buys low and sells high…
Football players are no different. These guys are all investments.
March 6th, 2024 at 7:58 pm
Marine Buc Says:
March 6th, 2024 at 7:42 pm
@ mark
I would rather take a chance on Russ Wilson for $1.2M on a one year deal rather than pay $38M to Baker on a one year deal.
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Yep. THere ya go!!. Now you are finally getting down to what this is all about. Its a get rid of baker plan. Nothing to do with clearing cap or getting a get a QB that you all say you need an elite one to win with – because your silly hair brain plan to send it all out on non QB additions and upgrades anyway .
As rod finally admitted when you cant hold on to WIlson or he flames out you just go for another QB thats on a prove it deal from there. What could go wrong? They all work out like Baker 🙂
Bored have a good night.
March 6th, 2024 at 8:37 pm
“Marine Buc Says:@ USF
The report said they were $19M apart… The Bucs offered @ $25M per season and Baker wants @ $44M per season.”
Licht: our offer is 25
Agent: Bake wants 44
Licht: 44 is a long ways from 20
Agent: 20? thought you said 25
Licht: no ….. quite sure I said 18
Seriously tho, your 4 @ $27-$33M sounds about right. Oorah!
^^mtnman^^
Since ’76
March 6th, 2024 at 8:51 pm
I’m surprised of how many Bucs fans didn’t actually watch the games and/or think they know more than all the T.B. players and coaches know regarding Baker. 🤣
March 6th, 2024 at 8:58 pm
Everyone on here trashing Baker should already be coughing up crow feathers. I guess they just like eating crow.
March 6th, 2024 at 9:30 pm
Shane, Bakers QBR is 18th in the league, he has a career record of 42-47. The Ira Kauffman podcast had a debate if he should be benched at mid season. He had an outstanding performance against the Packers, and was down right terrible in a must win game against the lowly Panthers who still managed to hand the game to the Bucs with mistakes and a great performance by our exceptional kicker, Mayfield is very inconsistent. I’m sure Jason Licht is weighing all options before handing the keys of the future to this inconsistent, average QB.
March 6th, 2024 at 9:31 pm
Eating crow! 🤣
March 6th, 2024 at 9:34 pm
Other QBR ratings have him in the top 10. Just depends what you want to site to prove your point. I tend to believe the coaches and players.
March 6th, 2024 at 9:38 pm
That’s not even taking into account his center and guards would be backups on any other team. It’s a team game, and he did amazing. Period.
March 6th, 2024 at 9:48 pm
Unlike many of you all, I’ve seen what he can do with an above average o-line something he’s not had in his NFL career. Hopefully, you all will get to see that in the upcoming years. Go Bucs!
March 6th, 2024 at 10:14 pm
His track record is what it is. I’m all for Bakers return but not at the dollars or anywhere close to what his agent is throwing out there. This is a team game, in my opinion his contract demands are extravagant, Brady played for less.
The more they pay Mayfield, the less they have to upgrade the roster around him. I’m sure that’s something we can all agree on, he’s not a franchise, elite QB.
March 6th, 2024 at 10:52 pm
Ian Beckles reported Mike would test free agency, they announced his deal later that day. Maybe we should wait for an actual contract to be released before condemning Baker.
March 6th, 2024 at 11:17 pm
I for one is not condemning Mayfield, he’s a good solid middle of the road, average QB. Licht should not and better not invest this Bucs franchise in a lucrative long term contract for an average quarterback. I’m a Bucs fan since 1976, I am not an armchair GM, however I do know that the quarterback position is the most important position on an nfl roster. Finding a true franchise QB is difficult. That means you don’t straddle the franchise for average. Have to keep your eyes open and hope to hit on a stellar QB.
March 6th, 2024 at 11:23 pm
i think the bucs and russell chilson are closer than baker and hainsey, before baker yells hike…
if the bucs sign chilson they will have to get wirfs on tranquilizers for a couple of months
March 6th, 2024 at 11:24 pm
wilson and the bucs are closer than baker and jensen
March 7th, 2024 at 1:47 am
Trading for Fields and his rookie contract would be of interest. He’s up and coming and this franchise has never really had a running QB. Steve Young could run, unfortunately he had nothing of talent surrounding him.
March 7th, 2024 at 1:01 pm
Yee Tampa fans have little faith. Once again all of you wanna be GMs need to slow your roll. Let the ones that actually get paid to make these decisions do just that. If Baker wants to price himself out of going with the Bucs that’s his perogative. Stupid but I guess we’ll see. He’s worth 35 million X 3 45 million guaranteed
. He’ll be back after he realizes that he’s just a middle of the pack QB. But will Tampa move on from his arrogant ass?