Franchise Tag Goes To Antoine Winfield, Jr.
March 5th, 2024
All-Pro safety Antoine Winfield, Jr. will not reach free agency.
The Bucs used their one and only franchise tag option this afternoon on Winfield, whose four-year rookie contract was about to end.
The 2020 second-round draft pick will earn about $17 million this season on the tag. However, Winfield and the Bucs will continue negotiating a long-term deal and potentially will tear up the tag if a contract is reached, per Adam Schefter of ESPN.
Great news! And Joe suspects this means a Baker Mayfield deal with Tampa Bay is imminent. There’s no way the Bucs would be stupid enough to franchise tag a safety and let their starting quarterback walk away for no good reason.
March 5th, 2024 at 1:41 pm
Close to a million a game.
Not too shabby.
March 5th, 2024 at 1:41 pm
Well, I guess Stroud was right here don’t he?
March 5th, 2024 at 1:41 pm
I think Baker is about to bolt. Something is fishy.
March 5th, 2024 at 1:46 pm
Get that long term deal done already. You don’t let future HOF players walk away, and the longer you wait, the more expensive he’s going to be.
March 5th, 2024 at 1:47 pm
Awesome, Antoine Winfield, Jr. deserves every penny
March 5th, 2024 at 1:48 pm
Now get a new deal done for Tristan Wirfs next please.
March 5th, 2024 at 1:48 pm
Buccaneric – how are you labeling the most no-brainer transaction here as “fishy”, and what does it have to do with the Baker negotiations?
March 5th, 2024 at 1:49 pm
Joe, please go back and check when I called this.
What was it late November?
Dude saved what, 4 games from L’s?
March 5th, 2024 at 1:50 pm
@ bucaneric
What makes you say that?
I hear Baker and Bucs are having “positive” negotiations…
March 5th, 2024 at 1:52 pm
Bucs resigning everyone they want. No problem. Only big name leaving is White. Lol
March 5th, 2024 at 1:52 pm
Good news, much more valuable than the next year’s first and second round picks combined
March 5th, 2024 at 1:53 pm
You act like he had a special season. Come back down to Earth, man. He was middle of the pack in a season where several quality QBs missed significant time. He has a checkered history, and the team is already digging out of a bad cap situation. But the best reason to let him walk? A COMPENSATORY PICK in the 3rd or 4th round. His meager production is completely replaceable with other middling QBs. There is absolutely no reason to keep him.
March 5th, 2024 at 1:57 pm
Realistic…I hope nobody listens to your useless drivel
March 5th, 2024 at 1:57 pm
Couldn’t let him walk, and I agree with getting Wirfs wrapped up as well.
March 5th, 2024 at 1:58 pm
@BucBen61, yet here you are replying. Thanks
March 5th, 2024 at 1:59 pm
If you’re not re-signing Baker, throwing that contract at Evans makes no sense. Unless we’re somehow making a play for Cousins, but why pay him more when you’re probably going to be right back here next year?
March 5th, 2024 at 2:00 pm
Good. He gets paid a pretty decent chunk, and no bidding war. Old boy is a vital part of the D, glad he’s back
March 5th, 2024 at 2:01 pm
It’s amazing…I listen to and read a ton of NFL news and nowhere but here to I get this total bs about Baker being a middling QB…he was the #10 scoring QB in fantasy this past season….all the QBs got points for yards and TDS and penalized for turnovers…he was #10…just quit with the nonsense he wasn’t any good
March 5th, 2024 at 2:01 pm
I agree. The team was paying that much for Darelle Revis 10 years ago and Winfield Jr. is a more impactful player for the Bucs than Revis was.
March 5th, 2024 at 2:03 pm
2023 Stats
Pat Mahomes Vs Baker Mayfield
Completions 401 364
Attempts 597 566
Percentage 67.2 64.3
Yards 4,183 4,044
Yds/Att 7.0 7.1
TD 27 28
INT 14 10
Sacked 27 40
March 5th, 2024 at 2:05 pm
do you think winfield is happy with the franchise?
he seems worth every penny…
is 4 years 75 a good contract for both player and team, or too high…?
March 5th, 2024 at 2:05 pm
The traskateers have taken over this site…they post outright lies…earlier today someone posted baker had 37 yards more than Russel Wilson…it was a 1000…he sucked in Cleveland…no he didn’t…he went farther with the same team as Brady the year before…some here suggest we just pickup a QB reclamation every year…easy enough…wtf…does anybody around here remember the lost decade
March 5th, 2024 at 2:05 pm
Hey Baker Boi, this is a thread about our future HOF safety.
I know that none of you are Bucs fans, but show some respect.
March 5th, 2024 at 2:06 pm
We continue to be unable to afford giving players raises in their 4th year to save on future years…..
March 5th, 2024 at 2:06 pm
Buc1987 Says:
And Winfield is not too “Sabby.”
:rimshot:
March 5th, 2024 at 2:07 pm
Of the Big 3 this season Winfield being tagged made the most sense. Only one of them that was close to being Top 5 in their positions.
March 5th, 2024 at 2:10 pm
Rod Muncher…the head traskateer
March 5th, 2024 at 2:12 pm
BucBen61 Says:
March 5th, 2024 at 2:05 pm
The traskateers have taken over this site…they post outright lies…earlier today someone posted baker had 37 yards more than Russel Wilson…it was a 1000…he sucked in Cleveland
That was no lie. it was a mistake. Omitted the word Averaged by mistake. Wilson averaged 37 yards a game less.
I went back and made that clear but just take it and run with it.
I must have posted it during your nap time.
March 5th, 2024 at 2:12 pm
The best Bucs players are (no order) Winfield, Wirfs, and Evans. Two of them are now locked up for next year. Working on the third. Everybody else on the roster is replaceable. I’m not saying they should all be replaced, just that there are priorities. Very happy that Winfield is staying put. Hopefully it turns into a multi-year deal soon.
March 5th, 2024 at 2:13 pm
adam from ny Says:
March 5th, 2024 at 2:05 pm
do you think winfield is happy with the franchise?
he seems worth every penny…
is 4 years 75 a good contract for both player and team, or too high…?
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If I’m the Bucs, I’m signing the future HOF’er to like a 6yr $120 million dollar deal.
The only concern you’d have about Winfield is the concussions, so perhaps there’s a way to structure the deal to offer you some protection, but otherwise, he’s the type of player who should be an ALL-PRO level player even when he’s 30.
Also, the longer the deal, the more you can move around money to make it work – plus what is expensive now will be average starter money by the end of the deal. Sort of how the Bucs signed Evans to a 5yr $82m deal which was really expensive at the time, but by the end of the deal, Evans was a huge bargain. With your young talent that you know is elite, you should lock them up for as long as you can.
March 5th, 2024 at 2:13 pm
Evans, David and Winfield. How blessed are we? The farm animal was a nice treat but Baker’s impending signing has me beside myself. It’s never been like this in March. Cancy… Yaya… OMFG being a Bucs fan has never been so sweet. Plus Trask LOL
March 5th, 2024 at 2:15 pm
Marine Buc Says:
March 5th, 2024 at 1:50 pm
I hear Baker and Bucs are having “positive” negotiations…
I’m actually hearing the baker deal in broad terms is done ( which explains Evans signing )and they are just ironing out details I guess like incentives ( tends to be more detials with QBs)
I am not going to hold it as anything but ruomor because Its a radio station out of tampa and I am not familiar with the source.
I see nothing fishy
March 5th, 2024 at 2:19 pm
Monday – Mike’s day
Tuesday – AWJ’s day
Wednesday – Baker’s day
Just like we drew it up!
March 5th, 2024 at 2:24 pm
No brainer. Winfield wants to be here long-term. Tampa wants him long-term. He saw how the franchise treated Godwin. There’s no lack of trust.
I can’t wait to see what new players Licht might nab.
Truthfully, with all the talk out of Baker’s camp I’d like to see the Bucs bring in Russ for a visit. They won’t sign him but it would be one hell of a shot across the bow.
March 5th, 2024 at 2:25 pm
I am so glad some of these folks here have nothing to do with the Bucs executive decisions.
March 5th, 2024 at 2:26 pm
bucs could not haqve f-ed up this off season any more..
this guy should get the long term deal
bucs life lol
be happy with the turnstile for an OL and no stud edge rusher
expect a repeat of last year, without the luck and cake schedule
the kitties will have more wins than us. bank on it
March 5th, 2024 at 2:28 pm
LFG. Dude has had a legendary start to his career and can go down as an all time great S at this rate if he keeps it up
March 5th, 2024 at 2:28 pm
Maybe something is imminent with Baker. But odd that they wouldn’t have it locked up before that announcement. If it falls through……
March 5th, 2024 at 2:28 pm
Antoine definitely seemed to like it here and wanted to sign, anyway; but maybe Jason’s not sure about his (Antoine’s) agent’s tactics, etc., and used the tag just to be on the safe side; can’t take any chances with the “top four. It looks good with Lavonte, too.
March 5th, 2024 at 2:31 pm
I heard the same thing. Baker will be announced tomorrow.
March 5th, 2024 at 2:35 pm
Sounds like Winfield Jr is holding out for $20+M per season.
I doubt this tag will actually be used – but at least we know for sure our stud safety is wearing red and pewter in 2024.
March 5th, 2024 at 2:36 pm
Fantasy land gaytor bois fantasy land
March 5th, 2024 at 2:39 pm
More great news: one other signing is our kicker, McLaughlin. He was money all year. Also, this is a production league. Get it done, or get out. If the Bucs thought Trask was that good, he’d be playing. Baker is top third, not elite. He brings an attitude that the Bucs feed off.
March 5th, 2024 at 2:39 pm
Seahawks just released both Jamal Adams & Quandre Diggs!!!!!
Pretty shocked there…
Hmmmmmm, didn’t Bowles draft Jamal Adams with the Jets???
I wonder if he’s interested in coming down to Tampa???
March 5th, 2024 at 2:41 pm
@ Tony
“I see nothing fishy”
Neither do I – yet…
If a deal doesn’t get done by week’s end then I might change my mind but all the news re: Baker seems positive at the moment.
March 5th, 2024 at 2:48 pm
I agree with the above point about Mahomes stats v. Baker’s stats: if Mahomes is considered Elite status, so should Baker.
Mahomes is running around the backfield on half of the plays, and those are “blown plays.” Baker accomplished a great year with a decimated interior O-line, took the hits and still made the plays.
March 5th, 2024 at 2:53 pm
Good but so fare Bucs are treading water. Need to get Bettah.
March 5th, 2024 at 2:59 pm
I agree that a Baker deal better be announced very soon prior to Monday!
It’s great that we have Winfield somewhat locked up and he will be back!
March 5th, 2024 at 2:59 pm
Time to get Cousins!
March 5th, 2024 at 3:37 pm
This made me laugh today.
Thank you.
March 5th, 2024 at 3:38 pm
Mike Monday
Tony Tuesday
Fingers crossed for Baker Wednesday
March 5th, 2024 at 3:57 pm
Free agency is so fun to get new guys, but it’s really a terrible part of modern sports when you lose guys or have to do things like the franchise tag.
I’m not sure why the NFLPA agrees to it. They make a lot of dumb moves for a union.
March 5th, 2024 at 4:05 pm
Why in the hell should Baker get a 26 million dollar raise, for only a couple
of months work. When he was needed to lead the team, he fell apart like a cheap suit.
March 5th, 2024 at 4:14 pm
Doc Says:
March 5th, 2024 at 4:05 pm
Why? Because that is what QBs cost, unfortunately. We will pay him a bunch more money because if we don’t, someone else will. That’s basic market economics, for better or worse. If we can get him for 30 million a year, that would be a win, given the current skyrocketing QB salaries. If he has another year like this past one, and we had to sign him next year, you can bet the price would be north of 40 million per season.
March 5th, 2024 at 4:17 pm
realistic-optimistic…be careful BucBen61 gets triggered like a little girl.
Slight Baker a little bit and…
March 5th, 2024 at 4:20 pm
All I care about is keeping David and the kicker…
Baker can’t go else where for all I care…
He doesn’t pass the eye test
March 5th, 2024 at 4:23 pm
And still the blowtards use a thread about Antoine to exfoliate their scabs complaining about Mayfield.
Can’t fix stupid.
March 5th, 2024 at 4:23 pm
Glad they tagged him so he is here next year but would have rather signed him long term.
March 5th, 2024 at 4:29 pm
Another day of good news. So happy about Winfield. Hopefully, Baker by the end of the week.
March 5th, 2024 at 4:31 pm
Bravo, Jason Licht…
As it should be.
I would rather have Russel Wilson or Kirk Cousins, if healthy than Baker, if the option is to overpay Baker.
There is no way on this earth that we should pay Baker more than TB 12
March 5th, 2024 at 4:35 pm
CleanHouse …The Baker Cult can’t understand why all these different posters weren’t impressed with Baker like they are.
You obviously just keep changing your screen name to bash Baker.(sarcasm)
March 5th, 2024 at 4:38 pm
There is a reason the Buccaneers have made the playoffs four years in a row–soon to be 15. His name is Licht. Always has a plan.Right way more than he is wrong and learns from his mistakes. Glad we have him.
March 5th, 2024 at 4:47 pm
Nothing to see…move along…just the traskateers letting their presence be known
March 5th, 2024 at 4:49 pm
The “Baker Cult”’ consists of a vast majority of NFL professionals and knowledgeable fans. That’s a super-majority of the most credible opinions all endorsing Mayfield. The Blowtards are cute as they show their arses though, kind of like a baboon does at the zoo.
Can’t fix stupid.
March 5th, 2024 at 4:54 pm
Congrats Antoine!… we love ya man!!!
@ Pat Mahomes Vs Baker Mayfield…oooh, get real!
Mahomes 4 Super Bowl appearances and 3 wins – oops, he lost one to some team in Tampa, Florida.
Mayfield 0 Super Bowls, ever.
March 5th, 2024 at 4:55 pm
Former Bucs locker room legend LeSean Mccoy doesn’t believe the Baker hype either
March 5th, 2024 at 5:02 pm
Dave Pear Says : “a vast majority of NFL professionals”.
Name some.
March 5th, 2024 at 5:09 pm
Buc1987 Says:
March 5th, 2024 at 4:35 pm
CleanHouse …The Baker Cult can’t understand why all these different posters weren’t impressed with Baker like they are.
No we can’t understand or more accurately very well could understand why multiples times now a new name shows up trashing Baker and YOU the same person are the first post underneath it sayng the exact same thing.
Last time someone was that clumsy – He ws unmasked as our Beloved Trakite David with multiple accounts.
haven’t seen him for ahiwle but dubious due to his obsession he isnt still here under multiple other names.
March 5th, 2024 at 5:16 pm
Still waiting Dave….
Tony you make yourself look foolish when you make the claim it’s the same poster just under a different name. CleanHouse and SteveK have been posting on this site for years. Just as I have…and Joe watches out for screen name changes.
March 5th, 2024 at 5:17 pm
You’re right Dave…you really can’t fix stupid.
March 5th, 2024 at 5:29 pm
This surprises me, but I think it’s just to buy time in order to negotiate a long-term deal later
while they focus on Baker, LVD, the kicker, extending Tristan, etc.
March 5th, 2024 at 5:34 pm
“CleanHouse and SteveK have been posting on this site for years. Just as I have…and Joe watches out for screen name changes.”
Yawn….rubbish. this site has no login functionality for commenters. There is even a legit David that uses the same name David so its entirely possible to use someone else name. Baker haters have been proven to be using multiple names on this site – caught and then essentially admitted. Its not up for debate.
March 5th, 2024 at 5:34 pm
I can’t believe there are morons out there who don’t think they should re-sign Baker at this point. They clearly don’t know a damn thing about football. All the best organizations have one thing in common… Stability. The GM, the head coach, the QB.
Baker has had a different OC or HC every year he’s been in the league. The fact that he played so well and consistently improved throughout the year when dealing with that is remarkable. Keeping him here with the same players, and hopefully an offensive coordinator for a few years, should prove that he is a top 10 quarterback, year in and year out.
I’ll take a hard pass on Russell Wilson
If they don’t sign him, I just assume trade up and get the QB you want in the draft. But after signing Evans, that is not happening. They are going to be signing Baker this week so if you don’t like it… Go root for Carolina.
March 5th, 2024 at 5:38 pm
Let Devin go to NO with Jameis on his horse. Then when Jameis decides to steal more crablegs Devin can be waiting right outside Publix or any other store on his horse & he can be the getaway for Jameis.
March 5th, 2024 at 5:39 pm
Tony Marks…you’re way too paranoid man…smoke another one and put on your tinfoil hat.
March 5th, 2024 at 5:44 pm
If Baker can’t come back THEN THAT MEANS WE’RE BRINGING TOM BACK. There’s a reason he took this year off anyway.
HE’D BEEN TRAINING WITH DERRICK BROOKS RAY LEWIS BRIAN URLACHER MICHAEL VICK & LAMAR JACKSON & HE’S BEEN LEARNING HOW TO BECOME A RUNNING QB & PART TIME LB, TOO!
He’s adding another weapon to his game. He’s gonna be a two way player, too! He’s gonna fill in at LB at times to replace Devin, too!
So it might ACTUALLY WORK OUT because we could bring in TURBO BOOSTER TOM then.
March 5th, 2024 at 5:44 pm
Joe will actually tell the poster to stick to one screen name.
You actually believe that people would go out of there way and create a different screen name so that it looks like more peeps don’t like Baker? Nonsense!
@Dave…still waiting on the vast majority of the NFL. Okay name 3 people outside of the Bucs org.
March 5th, 2024 at 5:48 pm
Buc1987 Says:
March 5th, 2024 at 5:02 pm
Name some.
Shaun Mcvay, Our new OC Coen, the head coach of atlanta who brought him up by name in his press conference, Jason Licht, the entire locker room of the bucs. Wirfs in particular. Several receivers with the rams
Just to name a few
Now you will demonstrate why Peers didn’t bother answering you because your next reply will be deflection, hand waving and or denial to avoid being wrong
It is your destiny
Meanwhie what does this baker bashing have to do with antoine?
March 5th, 2024 at 5:54 pm
Ed McSherry Says:
March 5th, 2024 at 2:48 pm
I agree with the above point about Mahomes stats v. Baker’s stats: if Mahomes is considered Elite status, so should Baker.
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LOL! As I’ve always said, they’re literally retarded.
March 5th, 2024 at 5:55 pm
Why is everybody so amazed that Winfield got the tag been talked about for a while joe even did article on it not long ago because safety has lowest tag number I think around 17 mil. You can’t tie up 38 mil on Baker that would take most of our cap room this year.
March 5th, 2024 at 5:55 pm
You actually believe that people would go out of there way and create a different screen name so that it looks like more peeps don’t like Baker? Nonsense!
like I said we have caught them. its not up for debate.
Your vast ignorance doesn’t change the fact.
March 5th, 2024 at 6:03 pm
@ BucaneroJim
You are correct, comparing Bakers career to Mahomes is a fools errand. That said, I thought I would explore something being a stats geek.
I took the top 50 QBs in yards from ESPN and added 8 additional that are relevant if only based on their past (Rodgers) or prospects of being a starter next year (Brisett). Next I broke the group into three sets.
Set 1 – SB winners, of which there are just 5 currently playing.
Mahomes – reasonable to assume he can win more
Flacco – unlikely he wins another
Rodgers – unlikely he wins another (feel free to disagree)
Wilson – unlikely he wins another
Stafford – might win another but his body is breaking down
Set 2 – QBs than have won a playoff game. Getting there and going 1 and out is only marginally better that not getting there at all. There are only 17 current QB’s (other than the 5 above) that ever won a playoff game.
Of those 17, 7 have one just 1. Some because they are relatively new to the league, some just couldn’t get it done. Those are: Cousins, Watson, Jones, Keenum, Lawrence, Stroud & Love. That leaves just 10 that have won more than 1 playoff game, but not a SB: Goff (5), Allen (5), Burrow (5), Purdy (4), Garoppolo (3) and 5 with 2 playoff wins (listed by winning % in the playoffs): Mayfield (50%), Tannehill & Hurts (40%), Jackson (33%) & Prescott (29%).
Set 3 – QBs that have never won a playoff game. There are 36 here, and only 9 of them have ever made the postseason. Some notable names in this group: Carr, Wentz, Dalton, Murray, Winston, Trubisky, Herbert, Fields.
The final thing I did was calculate the cost per playoff win based on total salary through 2023 using number from OverTheCap.com. Lots of interesting stuff here too but this post is long enough. Happy to share if anyone is interested.
March 5th, 2024 at 6:09 pm
Ed McSherry Says:
March 5th, 2024 at 2:48 pm
I agree with the above point about Mahomes stats v. Baker’s stats: if Mahomes is considered Elite status, so should Baker.
As one of the most vocal supporters of Baker here I have to say this is waaaay over the top. I never rule out the future with no working crystal ball but right now – Baker is nowhere near elite as Mahomes is.
This is where stats alone without context , rings and playoff heroics misses the mark.
March 5th, 2024 at 6:13 pm
Another entirely unrelated post, hijacked by 3 frychefs, each with 10 poster names.
Go to Raymond James stadium. Listen 65,00 people who love Baker Mayfield!
He didnt get booed one time all year. The Real fan base loves Mayfield.
And they would go insane if the Bucs let him slip away.
They are the butts in the Seats. Not the nerds trolling at their computer.
After Week 6, Ive never heard that crowd support at QB like Baker.
Not even Brady or Jeff Garcia(Peeing in towels? Really?).
And why not. Baker Mayfield has the HIGHEST QB PLAYOFF RATING of any Buc QB EVER!
Better than Brady,Johnson,Garcia,Williams, King.
The Real fans,and the City of Tampa, love BAKER MAYFIELD. Thats all that matters. Not the trolls on websites.
March 5th, 2024 at 6:13 pm
Tony Marks isn’t this your first year posting?
How are YOU talking about people changing names?
You act like you OWN this site!!!
People are just noticing that they no longer have the tag IN THEIR BACK POCKET for Mayfield anymore like some said.
Then people said it was out of respect they signed Mike first.
Now it’s Winfield. Wouldn’t be at all surprised if Wirfs is next.
Use the word fishy or interesting or whatever adjective you like better.
It’s the Baker fans freaking out, not the other way around.
Im in the group that won’t lose sleep if Baker walks.
Doesn’t mean Im at all a Trask fan. I think he probably sucks too.
Please tell us where you are HEARING the deal is done?
March 5th, 2024 at 6:16 pm
I can hear Tony in a debate when someone brings up a good point. Well F you and everyone gets silent and you think you won!!
March 5th, 2024 at 6:23 pm
BillyBucco Says:
March 5th, 2024 at 6:16 pm
I can hear Tony in a debate when someone brings up a good point. Well F you and everyone gets silent and you think you won!!
NO I pretty much know I have won when someone doesn’t actually make the good point but just comes in with meaningless yabber. I am thinking of someone right now
Tony 49 Bucco 0
March 5th, 2024 at 6:29 pm
That sounds interesting. If you can post it, please do.
March 5th, 2024 at 6:43 pm
Capt Tim – logic and facts cannot fix stupid, unfortunately. Someone asked who thinks highly of Mayfield. That question is so stupid it should t be dignified with a response. One name matters more than any.
Jason Licht.
And anyone else not affiliated with the train wreck Browns (who he lifted out of the abyss) and the forever garbage Panthers.
Seriously, these clowns must be shocked they’re not calling the personnel moves and contracts. Good to ing too. Playoffs are kind of cool.
March 5th, 2024 at 6:43 pm
Tony Marks,
Love your post, but gotta disagree.
Mayfield is absolutely Elite. He took the worst franchise in the NFL to the playoffs, for the first time in Decades. Just 3 years after having the worst record in Football, the Wretched Browns were in the playoffs. No wonder the America Sports Writers voted Mayfield Rookie of the year. Trophy looked good next to his Heisman.
Then Mayfield made his one big mistake. He tore the Labrum in his Shoulder. But instead of going on I.R., he tried to play. He went 6-8, and the Genuises in Cleveland, thought they’d be better with the deeply perverted Deshaun Watson.
Mayfield took the team with the worst record in Football,and the longest Playoff drought- to the playoffs. Left them with a 30-30 record, after they were 2-14 the year they drafted him number 1.
No one can help Carolina. Good luck Dave Canales.
Mayfield won 3 of 4 with the struggling Rams, after only being there 2 days before his first start.
Then the Bucs. Predicted to finish last in the division.4-12 was the most frequent prediction I saw.
We were the NFC CHAMPIONS. Despite having a bottom 3 rushing game and TE production. First team to win a playoff game with bottom 3 rushing and TE production. That means Baker Mayfield was our sole source of offense, yet we beat the defending NFC Champions.
Mayfield was voted to the ProBowl.won MVP and the accuracy Competition.
Finished the season with over 4,000 yards. Top ten in QB completion rate. Top ten completion rate over 20 yards. All time NFL record for arm strength- threw a pass 78 yards in the air.
Mayfield accomplish all of this, with no running game, bottom of the league TE production. 29th ranked Pass Defense, the 34th ranked center,and 79th ranked guard(Stennie).
Baby,if that aint Elite- I dont know what is
March 5th, 2024 at 6:54 pm
Capt.Tim Says:
March 5th, 2024 at 6:13 pm
The Real fans,and the City of Tampa, love BAKER MAYFIELD. Thats all that matters. Not the trolls on websites.
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How do you know? Have you taken a survey. Your words are not true because I booed him during the first Eagles game and I heard other people booing him, too. I think there are less than 100 Baker fans and you all came to the Bucs when he did. I have NEVER met a Baker Boi in person.
March 5th, 2024 at 6:57 pm
LOL ATLBuc and Simple Jack must be twins. Who should we trust? Simple Jack, or Jason Licht?
March 5th, 2024 at 7:06 pm
bucaneRIC = RICk Stroud?
March 5th, 2024 at 7:11 pm
Capt.Tim Says:
March 5th, 2024 at 6:43 pm
Tony Marks,
Love your post, but gotta disagree.
Mayfield is absolutely Elite. He took the worst franchise in the NFL to the playoffs, for the first time in Decades
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He quarterbacked that “worst franchise” for two years before they went to the playoffs and that was because of the running game and defense. He averaged only 7.3 YPC that year
March 5th, 2024 at 7:14 pm
Buc1987 Says:
March 5th, 2024 at 5:44 pm
“Joe will actually tell the poster to stick to one screen name.
You actually believe that people would go out of there way and create a different screen name so that it looks like more peeps don’t like Baker? Nonsense! ”
Come on, buddy…you’ve been around about as long as I have…you must have noticed some people here using multiple usernames before.
I noticed some posting the same exact paragraph in three different names just a few days ago.
I can’t speak to their reasons, but it happens a lot here. Guys like you and me stick with the same names for a decade because we don’t mind being held accountable for the things we say…but others lack the absence lity to admit when they are wrong.
Heck, I doubt Tony has only had the one name.
March 5th, 2024 at 7:16 pm
“lack the absence lity ”
“Lack the ability”
March 5th, 2024 at 7:24 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
March 5th, 2024 at 7:14 pm
Heck, I doubt Tony has only had the one name.
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You’re right! His aliases are Michigan Joe and Captain Tim!! LOL!!
March 5th, 2024 at 7:31 pm
@ realistic-optimistic – Happy to share.
Not surprising, Purdy has the lowest cost/playoff ($/PW) win given he has been paid just $1.6MM so far in his career.
#2 is also not surprising, Mahomes, given the number of playoff games he has won. His $/PW is $11.3MM. Add the SB wins and this is the bargain of all time.
#3 Hurts ($14.4MM) & #5 Love ($19.8MM) both on the low side because they are basically on rookie deals. Yes Hurts has signed an extension, but it has not really kicked in yet.
#4 is Burrow ($15.2MM) because he does have a nice # of wins and just one year on this extension contract.
Then there are four more between $22-26MM. Allen ($22.6MM) based on multiple wins, Stroud ($24.1MM) on his rookie deal, Flacco ($25.2MM) highest earner in the top 10 to date but 7 playoff wins, and then Baker ($26.2MM).
Next is where it gets interesting. In the $30MM range are 4 QB: Lawrence ($31.1MM) for his 1 win, Rodgers ($31.2MM) for his 11 wins, Goff ($32.2MM) with 5 wins and Wilson ($38.0MM) with 7 wins.
Only 2 in the $50MM range: Keenum ($48.2MM) for his 1 win and Garoppolo ($49.6MM) with 3 wins.
The last 7 were all paid more per playoff win than Baker has made in his career., and these numbers get BIG, quick. Jackson ($56.2MM) with his 2 MVPs and just 2 wins, Jones ($72.1MM) for 1 win, Prescott ($80.7MM) with 2 wins, Tannehill ($97.5MM) with 2 wins, Stafford ($109.3MM) for just 3 wins but that includes a SB, Watson ($142.8MM) BIG number for just 1 win and the most expensive, Cousins ($231.5MM) for his 1 playoff win.
So do you really think Cousins is better than Baker? Dak wins a lot of regular season games, just can’t get it done in the playoffs, and he has an almost $60MM cap hit in 2024. Watson is really expensive, even if he wins a game next year given his $64MM cap hit in 2024, and 2025 and 2026.
I found this interesting, and I hope others do as well.
March 5th, 2024 at 7:32 pm
We shouldn’t get so worked up about 3 little turds that are the traskateers.im almost positive it 3 little pimple faced boys using multiple user names….has to be kids….adults just aren’t that ignorant
March 5th, 2024 at 8:30 pm
Not sure why people are complaining about him getting the tag, they are still gonna give Winfield a long term deal soon just trust Licht. Just be glad we are gonna have him in 2024 at the minimum
March 5th, 2024 at 8:51 pm
@ Critmark
Thanks for the very interesting and comprehensive stats.
As stated before… I have always liked Baker and support him as a Buc, but nitpicking stats to call him “elite” and comparing him to Brady and Mahomes is Orwell’s 1984 doublespeak.
If Baker resigns as a Buc and takes us to the Super Bowl a couple times, then start talking “elite”. Winning the pitiful NFC South last year does not make a QB great.
March 5th, 2024 at 8:59 pm
Capt.Tim Says:
March 5th, 2024 at 6:43 pm
Tony Marks,
Love your post, but gotta disagree.
Mayfield is absolutely Elite.
I hear you cap but elite wasn’t really my focus as much as comparison to Mahomes.
I got to give some added respect to a back to back SB winner and the career he has had. So Baker elite I can iive with (everybody swears it has one meaning but it does not)
Same level as Mahomes – nuh-huh. Win at least one ring before he can be even considered.
March 5th, 2024 at 8:59 pm
Lol. You guys that say Mayfield is elite……..do elite QBs ever see free agency. I’m waiting. When was the last elite free agent in his prime let afloat in free agency. Baker supporters please tell me. If it has happened it wasn’t often. But I can’t remember one of hand. Is Baker the first.
March 5th, 2024 at 9:07 pm
Critmark – applause for that analysis. And you did it factually and concisely, unlike a resident pontificator wholoves to run up the word count on his posts because he likes to read his own posts and thinks that the more words he writes the more impressed others will be.
March 5th, 2024 at 9:14 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
Heck, I doubt Tony has only had the one name.
I had another name and email address I first posted awhile back but haven’t used it since early training camp in favor this name and email combination but yeah on this site with the rampant nature of that going on Its totally fair to be suspicious of anyone.
March 5th, 2024 at 9:18 pm
Dude single handily saved Bowles job
March 5th, 2024 at 9:20 pm
Since76 Says:
March 5th, 2024 at 8:59 pm
Lol. You guys that say Mayfield is elite……..do elite QBs ever see free agency. I’m waiting.
The beautiful thing about your post is you have absolutely no idea how much you are embarrassing yourself.
March 5th, 2024 at 9:39 pm
Bonzi,
“Do you seriously believe people would make up more names . . .”
Hell Bonzi, they work at the Krystals you manage! Walk over and ask the lil pimple faced trolls! The rest of us are busy, getting ready to celebrate Bakers New Contract tomorrow!
You guys are gonna have alot of time on your hands now. Might wanna go be Bronco posters. Alot to hate on at their websites!
March 5th, 2024 at 10:04 pm
Captain Tim
What would it mean if Baker did not sign a contract tomorrow?
March 5th, 2024 at 10:54 pm
AtlBuc,
Two things
Ill raise hell with my source or making me look bad.
It means we have to wait a few more days for the Mayfield signing.
But the Bucs will sign Baker Mayfield. The fans here LOVE him. Everytime he runs into a defender, or talks smack to someone on the other team, he just futher endears himself to the fans.
No way the Bucs can let this Kid get away. The fan base would never forgive them.
Everybody loves an Underdog. Everybody loves a comeback story.
The Bucs will sign Mayfield
March 5th, 2024 at 11:07 pm
There’s no more money for Baker – not unless he wants to sign for 15 mil per.
Someone will give him 25+
Baker is as good as gone.
March 5th, 2024 at 11:32 pm
If the Bucs do indeed sign Mayfield, it better be a cap friendly contract with a way out in case he resorts back to his play in the first three quarters of the season and his previous experience as a pro with multiple franchises.
March 5th, 2024 at 11:45 pm
If Mayfield signed with the Falcons, I’d be happy as a Buc defensive coordinator to game plan against him twice a year. There is not one defensive coordinator in the NFL that will lose sleep game planning against Mayfield.
March 6th, 2024 at 12:15 am
@ Dave Pear
Thank you sir. As I said, I am a big stats geek. I do run a bunch of detailed (aka weird) stats. Sometimes they tell me things, sometime not so much.
What prompted this latest query was all the talk about how much Baker should be paid. For the record, I have no idea. My guess is, what the two sides agree on.
Everyone will agree that you get paid to win. But my thought was, not all wins are equal. Personally, I would prefer my team got wins in the postseason and not just the regular season. That has always been my criticism of Dak. Most people would say Dak is better than Baker, but a winning % of .286 in the postseason is a far cry from Baker’s .500. I know not everyone agrees.
March 6th, 2024 at 12:23 am
1976 Says:
March 5th, 2024 at 8:47 pm
All the Baker Bois said Evans was waiting for Mayfield to sign because Evans viewed Mayfield as “elite” and Evans didn’t want to sign and be stuck with Trask. But then Evans signed before Mayfield, when only Trask was under contract. Based on Baker Boi logic, that means it is Trask who Evans views as “elite”. Where am I wrong?
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That is a very correct and true point – and I appreciate the fact the lead Baker Boi response to you was, ‘ur stoopid’. Pretty much sums up their movement.
March 6th, 2024 at 8:10 am
RGA Says:
March 5th, 2024 at 11:32 pm
If the Bucs do indeed sign Mayfield, it better be a cap friendly contract with a way out in case he resorts back to his play in the first three quarters of the season
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…….plus the Carolina game and the Detroit playoff game
March 6th, 2024 at 11:13 am
Capt.Tim Says:
March 5th, 2024 at 9:39 pm
Bonzi,
“Do you seriously believe people would make up more names . . .”
Hell Bonzi, they work at the Krystals you manage!”
That’s just mean.
I’m more of a Burger King guy.
March 6th, 2024 at 11:23 am
“Same level as Mahomes – nuh-huh. Win at least one ring before he can be even considered.”
Thanks for letting me know that Mahomes has won Super Bowls, but I’ve heard, already.
It isn’t about Super Bowl wins (“elite” isn’t dependent on Super Bowl wins; it’s a “straw man” argument in your case), it’s about each individual quarterback’s accomplishments, and whether they reached “elite status” this year.
I believe Baker did that. And, pointed out that his stats were even as good or better than Mahomes this year.