Ira Kaufman Talks Liam Coen Hire, Godfather Situation, Restoring Tristan Wirfs, Defensive Head Coaches, And More
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February 4th, 2024 at 1:41 pm
A ridiculous call from Ira. The whole team benefits from maintaining a similar offensive scheme…smart move. Why try to make it sound cheap, sleazy, and weak? I will agree the Bucs want Mayfield to be happy with the coordinator…but to suggest that he’s calling the shots is without merit. It’s was clear by Mayfield’s comments that he like several of the coaches the Bucs interviewed.
February 4th, 2024 at 2:51 pm
I think that I lost some brain cells listening to this podcast, lol.
So, it was discussed that if the Bucs sign Baker, they should also draft a QB in the First Round “just in case” Baker flops? But if Baker plays well, then they could always trade that First Round pick to someone else?
That strategy seems strange to me.
Do these Joe’s and Ira think that they’ll get another First Round pick when they try to trade this young QB who couldn’t beat out Baker? Maybe more like a 3 or 4 if they’re lucky!
Even though I’m a Baker fan, this is just throwing a valuable pick away when we have SEVERE needs in the O-Line to fix. Not to mention the disharmony this may create within the team.
Baker will sign with the Bucs and will give them a team-friendly price that works for all parties.
And please stop alluding to the “facts” that Baker’s career has been chaotic because of his talent. There was no stability early in his career and it was his INJURY in 2021 that caused his career to spiral down.
February 4th, 2024 at 3:07 pm
If BM, ME AW and LD resign, then go…OL, Pass Pusher, LB and WR in this years draft. Go Bucs!!
February 4th, 2024 at 3:15 pm
I tried. I must not be a Sage. I did not understand any of it.
February 4th, 2024 at 3:53 pm
Wyoming Joe is on it.. The only path to success next season for the Bucs, imo, is to do what it takes to bring back Baker, Mike, Lavonte, Antoine and Chase. Spend early draft capital on the OL and edge rush room. Fill out the draft with BPA.
All those guys could be replaced but not easily. I’d take Baker back before any other options. There aren’t any $8 million FA agents who can replace Lavonte in my mind. Evans would be a huge blow, Higgins.. prolly couple others could sign in FA but it’s a downgrade. Winfield isn’t going anywhere.
February 4th, 2024 at 4:10 pm
Ira’s take on Mayfield is dumb. Finding an OC who can work well with Mayfield was just a smart move, but doesn’t mean Mayfield was pulling the strings. Even if Mayfield doesn’t stay, this is still a quality OC hire.
February 4th, 2024 at 4:27 pm
Those O line coaches were A minus in teaching pass protecting.
They were D in teaching run blocking.
February 4th, 2024 at 5:01 pm
The O line was not solid on pass protection. Certainly not like Brady time who could stand in pocket for it seemed like 5 seconds. Goff had great time behind a great Detroit O line. Have to spend off-season solidifying both O and D lines. That is why Detroit finally became successful. Penei Sewell best OT in football. He will be perennial All Pro next 12 years at Right Tackle.
February 4th, 2024 at 6:32 pm
Lol.
The clueless, wasting my time, and costing me brain cells.
Joe thanks you for your patronage, Capt. Tim. It’s been a lot of years. The Sage is a treasure. Not everyone appreciates his wisdom. –Joe
That was some of the most ridiculous nonsense I’ve ever heard.
Wont ever waste my time on that guy again.
February 4th, 2024 at 6:46 pm
Gipper
I like the Detroit Lions line better than the Bucs. To me, the Lions are the strongest run blocking line.
They are not and have not been as good as Tampa Bay in pass protection.
Last year in pressure rate, the Bucs offensive line rated 7th best for the season. That is with a shitty Hainsey, a rookie guard in Mauch, and the first full season of Wirfs at Left Tackle and 1st season of Goedeke at any tackle position.
If anything, give me sh** for too high a rating of the Bucs offensive line on run blocking.
If you watched Detroit all year and your eyeballs tell you that Detroit’s offensive line excelled at pass blocking so, be it. Underlying stats do not support that position. Detroit was 20th last year.
The stat I used was “percentage of times” that a quarterback was pressured on “dropbacks”. Tampa was 7th best at 17.6% of the time. Detroit was 20th best at 22% of the time. League best was 15%. League worst was 27%.
The year before, 2022, the Bucs were the league’s best pass protecting OL. Allowing only 13.1%. The Brady effect as you noted. No other team beat 16% in 2022.
The year before, 2021, the Bucs were the leagues best OL for pass protection again. The Brady effect as well. Allowing only 11.1% pressure rate. No other team was below 16% in 2021 either.
So, your eyeballs are correct in saying that the Bucs allowed more pressure last year. But in comparison to other teams, they were still excellent.
If you think it is all the talent of the offensive lineman and Baker Mayfield last year to be that good, so be it.
However, my opinion is that those coaches were very good at coaching pass protection techniques.
February 4th, 2024 at 6:49 pm
Post apparently got lost in the Joe archives.
But the short post in reply to Gipper.
Is that there is an underlying stat about pressures that OL allow.
In 2023, the Bucs were 7th and Detroit was 20th.
In 2022 and 2021, the Bucs were 1st, partially because of the Brady effect.
I give credit to the Bucs OL coaches of being very good at teaching pass protection techniques.
If others want to give credit to Haines, Mauch, Goedeke, and Baker and not the OL coaches for last year, that is fine with me. I tend to think the coaches had a large part of that success.
February 5th, 2024 at 1:41 pm
If Mayfield signs…and I think he will in a fairly team-friendly dealio…I will be highly pi$$ed of they draft a QB before the 6th round.
This team needs 2 IOL, some edge fear, and ILB.
No fancy-pants speedos, but OL/DLedge/interior beef.
Big Uglies, please.
February 5th, 2024 at 4:17 pm
Sorry Joe and Ira.
That was uncalled for.
I was haing a really bad day.
Apologies fellas.
February 9th, 2024 at 9:24 pm
Ira’s podcasts are unlistenable as I realize one needs to drive revenue between the ad nauseam promos with such so little information sparsed in I am done after two minutes! Waste of energy and time! It is an insult to those trying to glean information!