“I Don’t Expect An Overly Difficult Learning Curve”
February 6th, 2024
New playcaller Liam Coen.
Expect the Bucs offense to hit the ground running.
That was the message today from new Bucs offensive coordinator Liam Coen.
Speaking at One Buc Palace, Coen said his new Bucs offense will be “very similar in terms of the terminology” to that of departed offensive coordinator Dave Canales, the new Carolina Panthers head coach.
Coen also said run game calls and protections will be similar. “I don’t expect an overly difficult learning curve,” he said with confidence.
Of course, Coen is from the Rams’ Sean McVay tree, as was a mentor of Canales, Shane Waldron, the Seahawks offensive coordinator.
Fans can expect lots of presnap motion from the new Tampa Bay offense and unpredictability, Coen said.
“The illusion of complexity for us was something that we strived for. ‘Man, let’s do the same things that we like to do, that we’re good at doing, but change the picture with pre-motion, shift, tempo change, tempo-out-of-the-huddle change. Go no-huddle,” Coen said.
“That’s something that we really worked on and believed in in L.A. You watch those films of Cooper Kupp and Puka [Nacua] and all those wideouts, man, they run a lot during presnap. Now it’ll be a balance [in Tampa], right? A balance between some of those things. But we definitely believe in trying to make the picture look a little bit different for the defense.
“Man, these coordinators and defensive players are so good in the National Football League. You’ve got to be able to do some different things to be able to change the picture so you’re not stagnant coming out of the huddle with the same tempo every time so they can get a bead on you.”
Joe’s not expecting a huge learning curve, either, starting with Coen knowing Baker Mayfield and working with him in Los Angeles.
Joe is sure Todd Bowles isn’t a slow start, either. He didn’t sign Coen to be a guy to gently settle in or to take the Bucs offense — ranked 20th in points scored — backwards during a season of adjustment.
February 6th, 2024 at 12:42 pm
Ahhh Dunno. Not too promising. NFCS is gonna be a stretch. Outlook….not so good.
February 6th, 2024 at 12:43 pm
Like what I am hearing, let’s see if that is true or just words. I think Bucs were too predictable on 1st and 2nd downs last year.
February 6th, 2024 at 12:46 pm
Glad it’s done. He’s got an opportunity for greatness. Now Licht needs to re-sign Evans and Mayfield and find a Center and a Guard and upgrade RB and TE.
February 6th, 2024 at 12:51 pm
Everything that comes from Sean McVay’s tree seems golden. Glad we got him.
February 6th, 2024 at 12:57 pm
@ HC Grover
“Ahhh Dunno. ” Exactly, you don’t know, you’re just pulling stuff out of your as*.
February 6th, 2024 at 1:02 pm
Hopefully it’s not TOO similar….we play those guys twice a year
February 6th, 2024 at 1:04 pm
So that means the Bucs could possibly score a touchdown on their opening drive in 2024
February 6th, 2024 at 1:15 pm
Here’s my question. How long is his contract for here in Tampa? Another one year BLUNDER or is there meat on the proverbial Contract bone? HOW LONG???
February 6th, 2024 at 1:23 pm
I like his interview more than Dave Canales because he said “It’s not about what I like, not play I want to run, it’s about getting the ball into our best players hands”. So hopefully that means he won’t waste first and second down running between the tackles.
February 6th, 2024 at 1:28 pm
kinda looks like Gene Wilder (RIP)
February 6th, 2024 at 1:50 pm
@elite bucs – he looks more like a mouse lemur
February 6th, 2024 at 3:05 pm
He looks goofy lol 🤣🤣 but let’s see what how good he will be to especially when Baker Mayfield is your quarterback. I just hope he don’t become the scapegoat when Baker has bad games .
February 6th, 2024 at 3:06 pm
But this guy can’t be any good. He thinks Baker is a QB instead of trash. The real smart ones know better.
February 6th, 2024 at 3:07 pm
Let’s see how good he be especially when Baker Mayfield is your quarterback
February 6th, 2024 at 3:09 pm
I don’t give a crap how he looks or who he looks like as long as the man can score points! and have a exciting offense to watch
February 6th, 2024 at 3:13 pm
Reminds me a little of Gruden’s crazy complex schemes that often culminated in a simple 3 rd passing play. But who knows. An open question/concern is whether the guys on the field will be ready for all the fancy dilly dallying before the snap. Could be an uptick in procedural penalties. We already weren’t great in that department.
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February 6th, 2024 at 3:23 pm
Pre-snap motion? Holy crap! What a concept.
We will see if this is some hyperbole or an actual concept utilized in actual games.
How long do we have to wait? A mere 7 months or so.
February 6th, 2024 at 3:34 pm
Is is me, or does our OC look like a long lost member of the Glazer family?
Just kidding. Things are looking up for the Bucs!
February 6th, 2024 at 3:48 pm
Layla. Can he play guitar.
February 6th, 2024 at 4:36 pm
1 yard and a cloud of dust?
Let’s hope he can figure out how to design a run game that is effective
February 6th, 2024 at 4:49 pm
Thank god, Bucs won’t have to learn a radically new Offensive scheme. This team needs some stability. NFCS will be interesting next season, for sure. Now Licht can focus on. his main goal: signing as many good vets as possible, draft, and UDFAs.
February 6th, 2024 at 4:49 pm
OneillBuc
“I just hope he don’t become the scapegoat when Baker has bad games .”
With #teamnegative here he’ll be the scapegoat for wins that are not impressive enough. There is a solid cadre of people here who look for the bad in everything.
Again they’d gripe about the cost of the hotel room if Tom B’s ex decided to rendevous with them. They’d whine about Ashley Graham’s weight if they got “lucky” with the hit supermodel!
February 6th, 2024 at 5:00 pm
NO LEARNING CURVE
Remember Canales’ “complex scheme” would take a year or two to learn? A year or two for professional football players.
Joe, totally bought that hook, line, sinker! Canales was such a con.
I already like this guy better.
February 6th, 2024 at 5:10 pm
I especially like the “illusion of complexity”. Pre-snap motion, shifts, tempo changes, etc all lead to that “unpredictability” that we’ve lacked the past 2 years, less so this past season but still not nearly enough.
There’s something different in how it sounds coming from him as opposed to what Canales talked about. Maybe because he cites examples (Rams O) or that he comes with actual experience?
McVay called the offensive plays but Coen actually came up with the game plans and schemes with heavy input I’m sure from the HC. Hopefully we get a few more good coaching hires to fix our ground game.
Lefty < Canales < Coen in my opinion. Fix the run game and retain our top weapons and we could (should) have a top 10 offense.
February 6th, 2024 at 5:11 pm
Did the HC approve this hire & attend the news conference? Pre-snap motion, getting balls to playmakers, up-tempo, keep defense guessing…. If Liam means this, than maybe Todd is growing. Wow. Hope.
February 6th, 2024 at 5:27 pm
I think Coen will be an upgrade just for the fact that he has a bit more exprience playcalling. It is music to my ears to hear that we will find even more ways to get ME13 the ball should he resign. Canales may have been the right guy to get this young team prepared, but I think Coen could be the right guy to take it to the next level. Baker did not start the season slinging the rock like he finished it- there is also reason to believe this offense can be better in 2024.
February 6th, 2024 at 5:44 pm
I remember Canales saying something very similar last offseason… that they can run the same plays / route concepts from a variety of different looks and formations to confuse defenses…
February 6th, 2024 at 6:19 pm
Good look’n and well dressed 😉
February 6th, 2024 at 6:25 pm
Man watching replay of his news conference is exciting. Comes off as a real dude that’s working on his craft. His wife definitely dressed him but has not come to the realization he’s more fishing attire than metro.
All the pre-snap stuff is what separates the Tom Brady’s from Jameis Winston. Winston had all the physical skills and advantages. But never could figure out where to throw the ball based on natural advantages that are there when you can get read the defense and get them to tilt their hand. I am looking forward to the potential offensive alchemy. The biggest winner may be our running game. Who ever is the QB is going to need to put our running backs in the right spot to keep it third and short.
February 6th, 2024 at 6:39 pm
I like what the man had to say.
Look forward to seeing it on Sundays!!
Go Bucs!!!
February 6th, 2024 at 6:49 pm
Oneilbuc, did Baker beat your arse when you were in high school or something? Professional football people — his teammates, coaches, former coaches, and management — all love the guy and his QB play. His value in free agency will speak loudly but it won’t matter, after he gave you a wedgie in front of your 9th grade biology class you’ll just continue to hate on him irrationally.
You’d probably rather have Trask or Winston. LOL, they can’t even get on the field. Jason Licht would probably appreciate your player personnel advice.
February 6th, 2024 at 6:59 pm
So far so good! He sounds competent!! Shore up the LG and C of the Oline and things can blossom from there! Time will tell!
February 6th, 2024 at 7:06 pm
Coen mentioned talking to RW1 in the weight room. It would be nice for RW1 to add about 10 lbs of muscle.
February 6th, 2024 at 7:43 pm
infomeplease Says:
“So far so good! He sounds competent!! Shore up the LG and C of the Oline and things can blossom from there! Time will tell!”
“Coen mentioned talking to RW1 in the weight room. It would be nice for RW1 to add about 10 lbs of muscle.”
Yeah a guard and replace the center. The interior line can get pricey on the market. I am guessing at our draft position, it’s going to be interior line, LB or WR in the first three rounds. Hope we wait a year before taking a QB. We got John Wolford to hold the fort. I expect Trask will be traded or FA next year to let him grow somewhere else. Probably one of our NFC South copycat offenses. Wait at least 1 year after Baker resigns before taking a flier on a QB.
We probably won’t be able to afford it, but I’d really like to see us get Joe Mixon. The Zac Taylor Bengal’s offense is a bit like the one we will be running. Mixon has had 3 years experience in it. If the Bengals cut him to save $6M on cap space, I hope we swoop him up. RW done good this year. But in today’s NFL, I think we need two good tires for RB not a good one and a spare. Especially at current RB rates.
February 6th, 2024 at 8:40 pm
Ok damn it Dave Pear>>>> Are you THE Dave Pear of the Bucs past If so I had you autograph from 77s first win
February 6th, 2024 at 8:44 pm
Man If so I also had Leroy and Dewey and House and Cotney And Ricky Bells graph too I actually stood on Mckays caddy and dented in the trunk during his post speech I was 12 years old
February 6th, 2024 at 10:51 pm
Donald G – after Leroy Selmon, Dave Pear was the next Bucs “star.” I honor him with this screen name. And from what I read, the real Dave struggles with CTE. God bless him.
February 7th, 2024 at 6:33 am
The offense had better come out of the gates running. Their schedule is absolutely brutal this upcoming season.
February 7th, 2024 at 5:09 pm
” I don’t expect and overly difficult learning curve” . You give the article that title with that image capture. Bruh, lol