“They Probably Have The Most Talented Team In The Division”
November 13th, 2023
Roster talent is a main reason Joe can’t give head coach Todd Bowles any kind of pass for this Buccaneers season.
“They probably have the most talented team in the division,” former All-Pro cornerback Richard Sherman said on his podcast last night.
Sherman played for Bowles and the Bucs in 2021, and he maintains ties to current Bucs and has all the respect in the world for Bowles.
Sherman is sort of in Joe’s camp. Just, win, Coach. Your team is as good or better than the rest of the NFC South. Live up to it!
The Falcons are being victimized by poor coaching decisions, Sherman explained, and while Sherman thinks the Saints roster is talented, he can’t say it’s better than Tampa Bay’s.
Bowles also has the benefit of a rather healthy team with a healthy quarterback.
Sherman isn’t worrried about the Bucs defense. He’s focused in on the offense.
“They have to find a way to run the football,” Sherman said with a tinge of disbelief in his voice. “As long as you have [Mike Evans and Chris Godwin], you have a chance.”
November 13th, 2023 at 10:49 am
More passes to White in the flat!
November 13th, 2023 at 10:58 am
This game feels like a good example of the offense ‘coming together’ and closer to a final 0roduct than not. Key was White running that ball and the occasional split out. Those plays you had 1&13/14 with 3 guys on them. Helps free up that offense. Go Bucs
November 13th, 2023 at 11:00 am
Hopefully Canales calls plays like he has nothing to lose against the 49ers cause the Bucs are not winning with a conservative approach….
Open up the offense time to get Godwin involved and no more than 15 carries to the running backs….
These are not your 2016 49ers.
November 13th, 2023 at 11:08 am
Talent ? more like an overrated Talent……. hahahahaha LOL!!!!
November 13th, 2023 at 11:09 am
Talent ? more like an overrated Talent… LOL!!!!
November 13th, 2023 at 11:18 am
Jack Sparrow Says:
November 13th, 2023 at 11:09 am
Talent ? more like an overrated Talent… LOL!!!!
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Are you saying what former All-Pro cornerback Richard Sherman said about us having the most talent in our division is false? You do know the Chiefs, Bills, 49ers, and Eagles are not in our division right? We have (LT) Tristan Wirfs, (RB) Rachaad White, (QB) Baker Mayfield, (WR) Mike Evans, (WR) Godwin, (FS) Antonine Winfield Jr., (LB) Lavonte David, (LB) Devin White, (DT) Vita Vea, (DE) Shaq Barret, (P) Jake Camarda, (CB) Carlton Davis, (CB) Jamel Dean. Who do the Saints, Falcons, or Panthers have that’s better in than the players we have?
November 13th, 2023 at 11:19 am
More talent than any team in our division the worse division in the NFL.
November 13th, 2023 at 11:22 am
@Jack Clark
I agree with your idea , but I wouldn´t put Devin White Carlton Davis and Jamel Dean on the talent list…..
November 13th, 2023 at 11:22 am
This win felt good. I record each game and watch again on Monday, however, I haven’t re watch a game in 3 week but today I will Either this will be good or bad for Bowles. Good if you look at it as, looks like his players still believe in him and pulled this team together at least for now. The bad is, what happened the pass 3 game if the Bucs at least played decent ball Sunday. Was it Bowles just being stubborn and don’t want change his philosophy to get better play out of his team. Mayfield still over or under throwing open players and getting passes batted, no run game but the team showed life yesterday and to me that’s a good sign for now
November 13th, 2023 at 11:31 am
Damn if rachaad white can only rush the ball well he could be the next Faulk or edgerin James but instead he is just a passing down back
November 13th, 2023 at 11:42 am
zzbucs Says:
November 13th, 2023 at 11:22 am
I agree with your idea , but I wouldn´t put Devin White Carlton Davis and Jamel Dean on the talent list…..
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I understand your argument but what two cornerbacks and middle linebacker do the Saints, Panthers, or Falcons have that’s better than Davis, Dean, and White?
November 13th, 2023 at 11:44 am
Lots of talent + bad coaching = underachieving Bucs
Still need a QB who can throw more than 2 TD a game to have any actual success in this league tho.
November 13th, 2023 at 11:46 am
Bucsalltheway Says:
November 13th, 2023 at 11:31 am
Damn if rachaad white can only rush the ball well he could be the next Faulk or edgerin James but instead he is just a passing down back
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He probably could be if he had as good of run blocking and hall of fame quarterback performance as Edgerin James and Marshall Faulk did. I’m 99% sure James and Faulk weren’t getting hit before they could even cross the line of scrimmage like Rachaad White and we all know Baker Mayfield isn’t making it to the hall of fame like Peyton Manning and Kurt Warner.
November 13th, 2023 at 11:54 am
@Jack Clark – isn’t it amazing that the same people who can see how Derek henry was completely shut down because the Bucs were living in the backfield yesterday, can’t seem to figure out why the Bucs running backs can’t do squat when their opponents are also living in our backfield?
November 13th, 2023 at 12:02 pm
A win over a bad team and right back ti irrational optimism.
November 13th, 2023 at 12:02 pm
unbelievable Says:
November 13th, 2023 at 11:54 am
@Jack Clark – isn’t it amazing that the same people who can see how Derek henry was completely shut down because the Bucs were living in the backfield yesterday, can’t seem to figure out why the Bucs running backs can’t do squat when their opponents are also living in our backfield?
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HAHA! You are what they call “woke” or “aware of the truth” my friend. We must continue spreading the gospel and convert more believers!
November 13th, 2023 at 12:03 pm
I Not expecting us to cross the country and beat down the niners
What I am and we should be expecting is what we saw yesterday, a team that showed up and played very close to their max ability
Yes, They left points and plays on the field BUT the issue wasn’t effort as it has been several times in past month
Give me a team that plays their heart out all day and I will root for them no matter who the coach is
Effort and heart earn victories when applied consistently
November 13th, 2023 at 12:22 pm
Yes, the Buccaneers have a lot of talent but they have some glaring weaknesses as well, more than most Super Bowl contenders. The outsider rushers have been poor. The guards are a rookie (who will get better) and a second tier player. The center would not be starting on virtually any other team and the starting running back doesn’t break tackles and is really a third-down back. Safety is a complete liability. No depth in the secondary. Also, their slot receiver is a rookie. He will improve but his production is not there. This makes them overall a competitive but second tier team. Expectations were too high (on this site) this year. This is a rebuilding year. The draft was good. Kancey looks like a dominant player if he can stay healthy. Ya Ya is a freak athlete. Then is there is a schedule. Buccaneers had to play the Eagles, and also the Bills and 49ers on the road. The other teams in the division didn’t play any of these teams. So going into the last seven games only one game out of the division lead is really a plus. They can win the diviision if they finish 5-2. 4-3 may or may not do it.
November 13th, 2023 at 12:37 pm
Keep dogging Baker, there are 12 teams that would send a plane for him this afternoon.
November 13th, 2023 at 12:57 pm
The Bucs were running the ball fine yesterday when they ran it – and no, you can’t go by average, because the Bucs just kept running into the middle of the line once you got to the fourth quarter, on plays that were literally just meant to run the clock, there was no attempt to move the ball. That’s what Todd Bowles is, a loser, who is first and foremost worried about not losing. There’s never ever a thought that hey, this offense is a mess, and we’re having a semi-decent day by our low standards, let’s use this as a chance to sharpen our skills and stay aggressive. Nope, Todd just runs the ball up the gut, to run the clock out with 14 mins left in the game.
November 13th, 2023 at 1:13 pm
@Jack Clark..
That our divison sucks that doesn´t mean CD III Devin White or Dean are talented…..Because they are not…… Maybe you can say they make plays from time to time, or even you can say Devin White is a great athlete……But talented???? No bro….. sorry but they are not……
November 13th, 2023 at 1:36 pm
Davis has 1 INT in his last 34 games.
Dean has 0 INTs in his last 23 games.
That’s just pathetic output.
November 13th, 2023 at 1:36 pm
Keep underestimating Baker because he hasn’t played at his best yet. I watched him for four years with the Browns and he never had problems with the deep pass or with touch (once again, lol at home YouTube). All that crap PR came during his injured 2021 season and when he was traded to the worst team in the league, Carolina.
November 13th, 2023 at 1:37 pm
When Dean picked off Rodgers and housed it back in 2020, I was super excited. Thought he turned a corner and would be a playmaker. Very little production since.
November 13th, 2023 at 1:39 pm
wouldnt bowles and his staff get some credit for the talent. they certainly contribute to drafting and developing the players.
i echo buddha’s arguments above; if you dont believe in the gameday coaching, at least let them have another year to infuse talent in the weakest areas, then you can survey the landscape for the guy to do like gruden and get them to the top again.
November 13th, 2023 at 1:44 pm
Wyomingjoe, If Baker was so great in Cleveland, why did they run him out of town?
November 13th, 2023 at 1:45 pm
This is why I think finishing 3rd or worse would mean we need a new head coach. The talent is there
November 13th, 2023 at 1:47 pm
Obviously didn’t need Carlton yesterday.
November 13th, 2023 at 2:17 pm
unbelievable Says:
November 13th, 2023 at 11:44 am
Lots of talent + bad coaching = underachieving Bucs
Still need a QB who can throw more than 2 TD a game to have any actual success in this league tho.
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I mean Baker did technically throw 3 touchdown passes. Evans just happened to drop one of them, even though it was on the money, uncontested and hit him right in the hands.
November 13th, 2023 at 3:08 pm
westernbuc
IDK…
IOL isn’t good the C is bad, RBs and TEs leave a lot to be desired. LBs outside of LVD aren’t exactly stellar and he’s 100 years old. The secondary.. ouch, and DL still needs work.
Got a great punter though
November 13th, 2023 at 3:13 pm
RGA Says:
November 13th, 2023 at 1:44 pm
Wyomingjoe, If Baker was so great in Cleveland, why did they run him out of town?
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Thats easy because they did NOT run him out of Cleveland Thats just something Baker Haters loooove to propagate online. I take it the blog does not allow links but feel free to go to cleveland.com and look it up. Actual FACTS
Cleveland inquired into Deshaun Watson because they thought he was Mahomes level talent – lolol now considered the worst move in franchise history by most Browns fans.
Deshaun indicated he was not interested but Baker didn’t care. He had played the year injured and took it as an insult. He went on social media and told the fans goodbye and that HE wanted a trade
Brown’s organization begged him to stay, he declined and somewhere along the way The brown’s upped the ante and offered the worse guaranteed contract to Deshaun in NFL history and got Deshaun to change his mind.
Due to the suspension Baker could and the Brown’s wanted him to play that year as starter but he held out of training camp until he was traded.
But feel free to ignore the fact and propagate that demonstrable false claim. Thats why social media as a source of news is for kids.
November 13th, 2023 at 3:33 pm
I would bet there are a bunch of guys on the other 31 teams practice squads who know how to run the ball who are willing to take a pounding and give a pounding and get average more than 3 yards of carry…
November 13th, 2023 at 3:40 pm
The lack of running is not on Chaad, the o line simply are unable to open any holes.
November 13th, 2023 at 3:44 pm
Dean quietly shut down D Hopkins but the haters that say he can’t play wee silent. Of course.
November 13th, 2023 at 3:52 pm
Every team in the division has the talent to win it. It’ll come down to which of the bone headed coaches in the division make the fewest mistakes. Worst division of coaches in the league. My money will never follow bowles that for sure.
November 13th, 2023 at 3:55 pm
Never has one head coach done so little with so much.
November 13th, 2023 at 4:14 pm
Usual garbage on here but it makes Joe $$$$$. Bucs win in Santa Clara against 49ers/refs, I can’t wait to see the blog reaction.
November 13th, 2023 at 5:21 pm
I thought Dean had crazy good production yesterday.
There are guys that jump on him for bad games fine.
But his game was probably top 10 cornerbacks in the NFL yesterday.
What did Hopkins do against him?
November 13th, 2023 at 5:25 pm
@Uggo – that’s a fair point actually, lol
November 13th, 2023 at 5:27 pm
Dean had his best game of the season yesterday, for sure.
I’ve been high on him since his first start, but he definitely has not looked the same this season, compared to past years. Hopefully there was an injury or something else going on in the beginning, and we get more play like yesterday for the rest of the season.
Gonna need all hands on deck to handle the niners this week.
November 13th, 2023 at 5:28 pm
I agree Joe. Baker is nothing but a back up but I take him over all these other trash qb’s in this post inferior division in NFL..
November 13th, 2023 at 8:12 pm
That was obvious from June, and the reason I stayed high on the Bucs this season. If they had a better HC, they would be 5-4 right now forsure. Saints D is old, Carr is a bum, OL is fading. Falcons FA signings panned out, so they are probably number 2 as far as talent in the division but losing Jarrett really hurts, if Calais or Onyemata go down that line is sunk. Should beat the Panthers twice. If Davis or Dean can’t lock down old man Thielen, rip their contract in half immediately.
November 13th, 2023 at 8:41 pm
I agree with Sherman but after 9 weeks the defense can’t carry the offense and frankly the defense sucked last week and got caught with pants down. R. White does better as a receiver too especially last 2 games. It’s just late in the season for it going into week 11.
November 14th, 2023 at 6:46 am
I have noticed Baker seems to relax more on the road against top teams. Bucs are supposed to lose so just play all out and have fun.