“Talent Doesn’t Mean Anything If You Don’t Do Your Job”
November 5th, 2023
With the Bucs offense breaking out for 37 points today, despite often being out of rhythm and struggling to convert on third down (3-for-13), Joe wonders to whom Baker Mayfield was referring after the game.
In Mayfield’s somber postgame news conference, he responded to a question with the following line of frustration.
“Talent doesn’t mean anything if you don’t do your job and execute,” he said.
Of course, Mayfield is correct. But Joe wonders what Bucs were in Mayfield’s head when he said it.
The Bucs scored on 7 of 11 offensive drives, but still the offense shot itself in the foot with penalties and too many negative plays. And there was was the colossal breakdowns of the Tampa Bay defense.
The Bucs are a talented group and Mayfield knows it. That’s why they won in Minnesota (the Vikings are now 5-4) and in New Orleans (also 5-4).
And that’s why Joe is so frustrated.
Relatively speaking, the Bucs are healthy, talented and led by seasoned coaches, and they’re getting very solid quarterback play and superior kicking and punting, yet they still stink.
In between the white lines, talented defensive backs and pass rushers let the Bucs down today. It’s starting to feel like a new group every week.
November 5th, 2023 at 5:58 pm
Fire the defensive coordinator ……. oh wait….
November 5th, 2023 at 6:02 pm
Inexcusable defensive play calling. Soft Zone all game? Hilarious
We need a reboot.
As someone brilliantly posted: CTRL+ALT+BUCS
November 5th, 2023 at 6:02 pm
#1. Bowles has lost this team
#2. Players do not believe in this team anymore, look at their body language on the field
#3. Can someone please tell Canales that he must adjust to the other teams defense?
November 5th, 2023 at 6:03 pm
too many penalties!!! Wouldnt it be exciting to get a new quarterback in next yeaars draft like Caleb Williams or Michael Penix or Bo Nix? unfortunately jason Licht will cheap out and will get a deal on an old has been that is no longer competetive. I have no faith in this staff. We must get a new coach and a new quarterback.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:05 pm
F this team and organization
November 5th, 2023 at 6:06 pm
Bowels ‘GIFTED’ THEM That Last-Play… Clock Would’ve Read 0000, INSTEAD Of (:10) TENNNNN Fricking SECONDS Left, & ‘That Play’ NEVERRRR Evennnn, HAPPENS!!!! You DON’T WASTE Your LAST ‘Time-out’ THERE, just to save 10-SECONDS… The ‘Time-out’ Is Farrrrrrrr MORE VALUABLE THERE (39 to 49 seconds remaining), DOWN-3!!!! ANOTHER ‘Time-Management’ Debacle, BY BOWLES!!!! 💯
November 5th, 2023 at 6:07 pm
There is no worse in game coach than Bowels. Ever.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:07 pm
Talent doesn’t mean anything if you don’t do your job and execute,” he said. so he was referring to mike Evans–who does what he always does and gets yet another pass interference penalty
November 5th, 2023 at 6:07 pm
Joe it’s the same freaking thing for all 8 games this year. Big plays called back because of penalties. Mayfield was decent but still over threw open receivers a bunch. You can just see the defense is just frustrated they were all lofting except Winfield. Please, all I want for Xmas is a HC who can bring some discipline to this team. Hell I’ll take Parcells from the nursing home
November 5th, 2023 at 6:08 pm
At least we have the Lightning and Rays. 😁
November 5th, 2023 at 6:09 pm
Fire tod bowles ,quit sugar coating his coaching it sucks !
November 5th, 2023 at 6:09 pm
Just checking to see if Bowles has been fired yet???
November 5th, 2023 at 6:09 pm
Talent doesn’t mean anything if your head coach is a clueless diversity hire.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:10 pm
His train started going off the track in Cleveland when he started criticizing other players. You do your job, Baker and hit open receivers and stop making stupid throws. Just because you threw a couple of touchdowns doesn’t mean that you played a good game. So stop talking about other players and play, before we replace you with Trask!!
November 5th, 2023 at 6:10 pm
There is talent on this team but I think it’s just the wrong collection of talent.
The roster is lacking talent in crucial areas and the coaching isn’t helping offset the holes.
This team isn’t building anything here, they’re just trying to hold on from the Brady Arians years.
A total rebuild needs to happen and you know Licht and Bowels aren’t going to be able to do it.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:12 pm
3-13 on 3rd down. Damn. Checkdown Charlie threw behind the LOS on a lot of those 3rd downs. This team is cooked. Oh well…just gotta wait for the draft now.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:16 pm
Convinced this is low key tanking
November 5th, 2023 at 6:16 pm
I can’t understand when Joe says the Bucs are talented. Talent & hope are meaningless phrases. The talent was on display, in this game, & their record proves all their talent continues to show. They have a couple of very good players, unfortunately it takes a team to win. That was proved today..i am sick of the word talent.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:18 pm
To AtlBuc: if everyone played as hard as Baker we’d be 5-3
November 5th, 2023 at 6:21 pm
Didn’t care for this answer from Baker. Offense did nothing in the third quarter. He’s been accountable for the most part, but didn’t like this answer
November 5th, 2023 at 6:25 pm
^^^Same Texasbucfan. Joe keeps making this blanket statement how talented this team is. Guess what? Every team has good players. Relatively speaking, this team isn’t all that talented – that’s why Vegas penciled us in for 6 wins.
Joe has some weird obsession with propping up Jason Licht’s prowess at assembling talent. We have a ton of overpaid, past-their-prime divas. Jason Licht hasn’t drafted a difference-maker in 3 years.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:27 pm
Let Bowles continue to torpedo the team and he’ll give us the gift that his twin Lovie gave us
November 5th, 2023 at 6:28 pm
This loss was on Bowles & Canales
November 5th, 2023 at 6:42 pm
The Glazers keeping Bowles around is just postponing the inevitable.
They need to make a move now.
Bowles needs to immediately relieved of his head coaching position.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:46 pm
Maybe he was talking about Carlton Davis?
November 5th, 2023 at 7:07 pm
Hey joes, ask them how they will out coach the refs and the opposing team?
November 5th, 2023 at 7:30 pm
The offense played well enough. Should have won that game. Two things: 1. The Texans made adjustments at halftime and our defense had no answers. 2. This defense is not very good.
Carlton Davis and Jamal Dean are simply not as good as they think they are and even the media thinks they are. They are not and never were lock down corners. They looked better in the past because the pass rush was doing much better than they are now.
As for Canales, I don’t think you hire this guy if you aren’t going to be patient. I think he is doing well. Didn’t provide him a real RB1. And even at that, the running game showed it is getting better. I think Arians influence on the offense was being able to check Leftwich and Brady. I think Canales needs an offensive coach to give some finer points or other view points.
Defensively. Vea shows up from time to time, but is he consistent, or just splash from time to time? To be fair, he may not be 100%. The corners are not pulling their weight. The pass rush is also not being consistent. Lavonte David and Winfield are the only consistent players.
November 5th, 2023 at 10:27 pm
D backs not named Winfield are NOT talented. Not so sure about pass rushers. Under achievers to be sure.
November 5th, 2023 at 10:44 pm
Get a new quarterback ? did you remember the last debacle with Jameis Winston, some Bucs fans never learn a lesson. Another QB does not mean success because QB is the least of the problem. You want a Russell Wilson? Another Bryce Young?, Matt Jones or Justin Fields. Oh you want Caleb, hello , football is not ping pong. It’s a team sport. TB 12 did not do well because a few members of this team are und
November 5th, 2023 at 10:51 pm
Get a new quarterback ? did you remember the last debacle with Jameis Winston, some Bucs fans never learn a lesson. Another QB does not mean success because QB is the least of the problem. You want a Russell Wilson? Another Bryce Young?, Matt Jones or Justin Fields. Oh you want Caleb, hello , football is not ping pong. It’s a team sport that needs coaches who can relate or teach. Maybe that the reason why he just takes this vetTodd Bowles is not one of them. Bring back Bruce Arians, he’ll get rid of these underachieving cornerbacks.
November 5th, 2023 at 11:10 pm
Get a new quarterback ? did you remember the last debacle with Jameis Winston, some Bucs fans never learn a lesson. Another QB does not mean success because QB is the least of the problem. The coaches are underachievers, some players are underachievers and are scared of contacts that’s why they are always out of position and misses their tackling, Bring back Bruce Arians, he’ll get rid of these underachieving cornerbacks. Defensive ends , RB.
Bring back Bruce to Go Tam(pa)!!
November 5th, 2023 at 11:46 pm
Gonna guess you think Mike Brown should slit his wrists for drafting Joe Burrow. Or the Pugula’s should jump into Niagara Falls for drafting Josh Allen. Or Biscotti in Baltimore should jump in Chesapeake Bay for drafting Lamar Jackson. Or how dumb it was for Houston to draft C.J. Stroud. Or how awful it was for 20 years that the Packers suffered with Aaron Rodgers. Or the Rams are so dumb for trading for Matt Stafford. Maybe Clark Hunt should sacrifice his daughter Gracie to a volcano god because the Chiefs drafted Mahomes in the first round.
This nonsense that first round pick quarterbacks are automatic busts has to be the stupidest argument in sports.
Are you still p!ssed off the Bucs drafted Tristan Wirfs? The last time the Bucs drafted a right tackle in the first round he was a colossal bust. By your (non) logic, the Bucs should never have drafted Wirfs.
The only people who don’t want the Bucs to draft a quarterback in the first round are 1970s running backs who scream “team” or folks who want this year’s Bucs to be the standard for the next 15 years until Joe Burrow is no longer wanted by Cincinnati and maybe the Bucs can squeeze two years of juice from him.
November 5th, 2023 at 11:47 pm
Admit it. You’d take Jameis right now over Mayfield in a heartbeat.
November 6th, 2023 at 12:28 am
If you get a new QB, better be ready to blow it all up. Including Jason Licht!
I think it’s time for Licht to be considered for replacement too. He has had a lot of misses with these picks. He’s hit on some but he’s got some pivotal misses with OLB, DT, CB, and RB!
November 6th, 2023 at 6:54 am
Baker was talking about himself. He has always been hardest on himself. His third quarter sucked and he knowz it. Browns fans were always frustrated that he accepted responsibility for poor performance but nothing changed. Lazt 3 games he has been saying he needs to get better. Baker did get better. But Stroud raised the Bar so now Bakes has to get even better. This is a guy who accepts challenges and meets them. Forever a walkon.