Career Day
November 5th, 2023
Before kickoff today, Buccaneers No. 1 cornerback Carlton Davis was talking about “being a lockdown corner” and focusing on “impact” through the season’s final 10 games.
Joe listened to Davis on the Buccaneers Radio Network pregame show and was ready to see Davis thrive against the Texans’ no-name receiving corps this afternoon.
Instead, Davis was roated and toasted, and then put back in the oven on high broil just to get a little more crispy.
Joe will call it the worst game of Davis’ six-year career. It was even worse than when Patrick Mahomes and Tyreek Hill roasted him badly in November of 2020. At least that was a legendary receiver and quarterback, and David recovered in the second half of that game.
Davis talked before today’s game about how “teams’ identities are set” by this point in the season and players must focus on “technique and body maintenance” to execute consistently and finish a season strong.
And then he dropped a Texas deuce.
Joe knows Davis is a good player, but he hasn’t been the cornerback this season that earned a fat free agent deal from Tampa Bay after the 2021 season.
The demise of Davis, combined with Jamel Dean’s struggles, has been striking.
Joe wonders if either will be back next season.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:26 pm
Told y’all the d would falter.
Their tired!
November 5th, 2023 at 6:27 pm
How about you play your expensive man-press corner in man-press coverage, instead of telling him to stand around in zone? He’s being wasted just like White and Dean is being wasted in this defense. Licht gave these guys big deals, only to see Bowles play 4D chess and outsmart everyone by changing the scheme.
Just an idea.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:27 pm
Carlton Davis looks like he ran a 5.2 40 yard dash. Yet another Bucs player who Jason Licht re signs then checks out.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:30 pm
Dude should be locking down the next opening at Publix bagging some groceries. Doesn’t even deserve to be in the NFL after today.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:33 pm
Davis is a man to man lockdown corner.
Today Bowles had his defense playing more Tampa 2 zone and matchup zone than he has yet this year and his secondary got diced up for 470 yards by a rookie QB.
Before you blame the DBs look at the man that had them in those schemes.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:35 pm
I’ve never been a fan and to think they gave him a monster bag for this ?? He honestly should walk TF home and his feet must hurt from getting toasted !!! Can’t stand this Auburn Alum wanna be
November 5th, 2023 at 6:35 pm
Most overrated player on Bucs roster by miles!
I usually agree with your views Joe, but not on this one….This guy made a player from time to time and everybody got hyped, even you Joe, similar on what happen with Dean…..seriously….throwing the ball to Bucs corners is a easy as taking candy from a 2 year olds kid….
They are bad, and always been bad……No mystery here
November 5th, 2023 at 6:36 pm
Bowles will protect him.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:36 pm
Davis could not cover a tight end for 5 yards. Guy came off the line with no pressure and caught an easy TD. He quit just like the rest of them.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:36 pm
They have a combined 32 million in dead money if they are both gone next year since they are both paid in the top 14 corners per year in the nfl
November 5th, 2023 at 6:38 pm
There are many here among us who said to burn it down and hit the reset before this disater began….we was right.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:39 pm
They used to put missing people on the back of milk cartons…..
November 5th, 2023 at 6:40 pm
Brianbucs agreed. We didn’t get much pressure on stroud around the 2nd half and with all the time he had plus us playing way to much zone and these are the type of results you get. How many times does a WR gotta be wide azz open in zone to switch it up.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:41 pm
Carlton was terrible today, he got beat by a tight end and routinely looked like he just didn’t even care
November 5th, 2023 at 6:42 pm
Carlton Davis III wrecked some sh!t today
November 5th, 2023 at 6:43 pm
ONLY ONE RECORD MATTERS
Evans hitting 1K. He’s on pace for 1200.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:43 pm
he makes Rod Jones look all-pro
November 5th, 2023 at 6:43 pm
Tired of hearing our CBs can’t be blamed because they’re being asked to play zone. Zone doesn’t mean you just let the WRs run wide open. It means you cover the WR while they are in your zone of the field. I get it may not be his specialty, but for $16M a year, Carlton should at least be able to play zone defense better than a JV high
School freshman.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:43 pm
Sometimes you pay guys and they give up
November 5th, 2023 at 6:44 pm
I knew it was a waste to blow that money on cornerbacks. Of course Bowles wanted them because he himself was a DB. Stupid move.
I am not convinced Jason Licht can craft a winner without lucking into Tom Brady.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:44 pm
My grandmother passed away in 1981. She is buried in Puerto Rico 15 minutes outside of the capital San Juan. I can physically fly down there exum her body, prop her up in a wheel chair and she could cover unknown Houston wide-recievers better than Carlton Davis.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:47 pm
We have always had a lot of players who talk a good talk. Very rarely do we have the one’s who perform when needed.
November 5th, 2023 at 6:49 pm
Davis gettin’ beat, has shown 0 hustle for the better part of 2 years now… and then getting press coverage and mentioned for his awesome performance?
The blockheaded coaching is an apparent problem to every fan that has to suffer through a radio game.. and now they are opening a coaching academy?
R. White playing like a half decent receiver while running into walls on handoffs.. but is on the morning news for how much he’s doing for the RB game and position?
Am I missing something everyone else sees? Its starting to feel like these stories got wrote before the season started, and nobody cares enough to amend them as the train completely goes off the tracks…
Can we have a LV kinda Wednesday? Or did they not prewrite that story, gotta stick with whats in the can?
November 5th, 2023 at 6:56 pm
Carlton was out there looking Tim Jennings.
Cut him ASAP, He’s not worth the money!
November 5th, 2023 at 7:03 pm
Remember when Davis talked trash about Tom Brady?
Never talk trash about Tom Brady.
Let this be a lesson.
November 5th, 2023 at 7:03 pm
Davis and Dean will both be on the team next year. Their dead cap hits are huge if they are released.
Rather get a coach in here that wants to challenge his players and see if these two can actually play.
November 5th, 2023 at 7:08 pm
They are not the problem. They are man press corners who are put in to run zone scheme.
Could you imagine if cowher tried to have Jerome bettis be a 3rd down receiving back? Or if Sean Payton used jimmy graham to be a pass pro blocking tight end? THEY WOULD HAVE DONE TERRIBLE.
I am not trying to say the corners are great. Ok saying they have an inept coach who does nothing to play to their strengths
November 5th, 2023 at 7:14 pm
The defense is gonna turn against their coach. Buckle up, it’s just starting
November 5th, 2023 at 7:16 pm
Joe you called it as you saw it, and sir, your vision is accurate. 20-20 I’d say. Carlton Davis was all hat, and no cowboy today in Houston. Talk the talk and that’s it. Pure cockiepoo.
And yes, he dropped a texas sized deuce today, and he kept dropping them, Mudded up the whole field. Good thing it wasn’t at rayjay, cause that stench would be hard to clean up. Too bad for all his teammates too I’d say. He let them all down. Perhaps he should zip the lip and let his play do his talking for him from now on.
November 5th, 2023 at 7:20 pm
30 million dollar defensive backs and can’t cover any better than rookies so why are they paying them oh because Toilet Bowles says they are good PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
November 5th, 2023 at 7:21 pm
Davis used to be good? I don’t remember that
November 5th, 2023 at 7:28 pm
I would wager if Davis played like he did today in front of his old head coach,
He’d be walking the unemployment line just as hargreaves did moons ago.
November 5th, 2023 at 7:32 pm
Lockdown corner, lock down corner? The only thing Davis will be locking down is those pines he’s gonna be riding in the future.
November 5th, 2023 at 7:34 pm
This defense is carrying on where the offense left off last year.
November 5th, 2023 at 7:38 pm
never a shutdown corner
November 5th, 2023 at 7:40 pm
“Joe knows Davis is a good player.”
Joe. Good God. Do you have to promote false statements in order to have access to the team? He has not been good.
November 5th, 2023 at 7:43 pm
Both corners play off man. Neither are fast enough to cover receivers who have an 8 yard head start. I never understood why we don’t jam at the line and use their length to our advantage….
November 5th, 2023 at 7:47 pm
The worst part is that , they play zone and they can’t tackle, it was like having Conte again. anyone who says they gave up is right. It must be exasperating to play with these corners because they don’t care. Baker is not TB12 but he is better than most QB in the league . If Mayfield was not using his legs and improvising the first few games, the Bucs won’t be winning because the CB can’t defend!! Ok, it’s finally out of my system…
November 5th, 2023 at 7:51 pm
Hey Bruce Come back!!! Glazers should bring Bruce back. He’s not going to put up with this defense nonsense!!
November 5th, 2023 at 7:57 pm
He hasn’t made a play in 2 years. He got his payday and cashed it in. When our corners are overpaid and haven’t got an interception he’ll when’s the last time either just broke up a pass play. In 2 games when the bucs are 3-7 put Trask in so we can tank the rest of the season
November 5th, 2023 at 8:00 pm
Davis shouldn’t be around next week, forget about next year.
November 5th, 2023 at 8:49 pm
Davis needs to exchange those gold teeth for some gold balls.
November 5th, 2023 at 8:51 pm
Our secondary was absolutely embarrassing, no other way to say it. Got beat from every angle by a child quarterback and no name receivers. I’m still in freaking shock.
November 5th, 2023 at 8:55 pm
All the flack I caught talking a out Dean and Davis, especially as far back as march 2021. J Licht was hornswaggled by the idea there was nobody else to sign when he inked C Davis and then scarredy cat Dean getting a contract. is just sad look on your resume Jason.
November 5th, 2023 at 8:56 pm
We don’t need him or Dean if we are just going to sit back in our zone all game. Bowles acts like these guys were Kansas City or something. Yes Davis was terrible but the defenses Bowles put us in were almost criminal. The only person who thought the game was in the bag was Mayfield. I think everyone sitting at home knew 45 seconds were way two much when we had been consistently giving up 23 and 24 yard catches before any YAC, all game. Bowles should have been canned when he cost us the playoff win against the Rams, instead we reward him and make him Head Coach. All week we get this oh but we are a top scoring defense. Makes we want to puke.
November 5th, 2023 at 9:41 pm
Velveeta. That’s what this guy is. Oozing soft fake cheese that occasionally seems like the real thing, but is really nothing but garbage
November 5th, 2023 at 9:45 pm
I Licht had an ounce of courage or introspection he would’ve traded several players including Davis. This team is going nowhere expect to the bottom of the league.
November 5th, 2023 at 9:49 pm
Davis a Fing bum. Always has been, always will be. His claim to fame is disgracing the already disgraced and POS receiver Michael Thomas A.K.A Slant Boy. Not exactly the best claim to fame.
He has no place as a No. 1 or 2 corner on ANY team in the NFL and deserves every bit of criticism coming his way.
November 5th, 2023 at 10:13 pm
Omg.
Like how many wide open crossing routes in a single game are possible?
Brutal game.
How does the team come back from that abomination?
November 5th, 2023 at 10:33 pm
Todd Bowles…You’re Fired
November 5th, 2023 at 10:34 pm
Joe, what makes you say Davis is a good player? Please back that statement up. Seriously. I want to see what you see.
November 5th, 2023 at 10:40 pm
I hope they aren’t. Waisting a boat load of Salary cap on these bums.
November 6th, 2023 at 3:39 am
BrianBucs … ‘Before you blame the DBs look at the man that had them in those schemes.’
Exactly. When I relooked at the play-by-play, 22-of-30 completions by Stroud went for 10 yards or more (some MUCH more). Our pass rush put very little CONSISTENT pressure on Stroud, and so the rookie was able to sit back there, wait for guys to get open 10 or more yards down the field, then play pitch-and-catch with them … usually with no defenders with 5 or more yards. I can’t ever seeing a display as bad as that for a full game. No adjustments, no anything. THAT’S SCHEME when every one of the DBs in the Secondary are doing the same thing.
November 6th, 2023 at 3:49 am
And for those who say ‘Blow it up’ you might want to hesitate a bit on that. Bucs already have another horrendous salary CAP situation on their hands as it is; ‘blow it up’ and that just got immeasurably worse.
Bucs have some talent (not as much as some would like us to believe, but some nonetheless). Atlanta & Carolina are rebuilding for the future; Bucs are circling the drain. ‘Blowing it up’ would only make it whirl faster.
November 6th, 2023 at 5:57 am
Don’t have to blow it up, coaches, and players doing it on their own. Don’t know what Dean, and Davis salaries would count towards the cap next year if they’re cut, or stay. At this point whatever it is, they should be cut. Can’t keep players that continuely underperform, same with coahes no matter if it sets you back a bit, or not. Blow it up, we’re at that point.
November 6th, 2023 at 7:42 am
It’s over too bad we had a early bye or we would’ve been sellers
November 6th, 2023 at 8:23 am
Daaaannggg! My man Dewey brought the”Toast” to my breakfast this morning!
November 6th, 2023 at 12:05 pm
That is called eating your words
November 6th, 2023 at 7:23 pm
DR, nobody is circling the drain here. You go back and watch the second half of the Houston joke. Go see all the fake DHolding calls always on the Bucs when it was 4th down for Houston. Then get back to me with your honest opinion. I am still snorting mad. I’ve followed Tampa for 40-plus years, and I know when they’ve been cheated out of a win.