Bucs Eager To See When Logan Hall’s “Skill Set Comes Out”
November 25th, 2023
Defensive lineman Logan Hall.
Logan Hall is a project defensive lineman after 1 1/2 seasons.
That was the slightly sobering message from a Bucs coach this week.
Hall was the No. 33 overall pick in last year’s NFL Draft. He was slightly undersized for a defensive tackle, and he wasn’t an edge rusher worthy of that draft status.
Hall played sparingly as a rookie as the Bucs figured out his strengths. Bucs coaches said he needed to add some man weight and this past offseason. And Hall got that done, but it hasn’t translated into special play in 2023.
Tampa Bay defensive line coach Kacy Rodgers told the Buccaneers Radio Network this week that Hall is well respected and one day fans will see him emerge as a standout player.
“The biggest compliment I can say about Logan comes from the other players in the room when they’ve seen the jump and the growth that he’s made from [his 2022 rookie season] to assume the role that Will [Gholston] was kind of holding down,” Rodgers began.
“Now he came in and kind of passed Will and they kind of flipped seats, sort of speak. With Logan, with the skill set, his ceiling is very high. He’s athletic. His strength level is improving, his knowledge of the game. Year 1 he was a high-mental-error guy; now he don’t make none. So just the growth … the guy wants to be good.
“And he has a skill set that once it really comes out, everbody is going to say, ‘Wow, where has this guy been?’ because it’s there.”
Much like Joe Tryon-Shoyinka, Hall has been super durable. So he’s gotten plenty of work. Roughly 750 snaps are on his NFL resume, including the playoffs. It’s time for him to step up his game.
At 23 years old, Hall is a developing player. But in the right-now, unfair world of NFL fans and media, he looks like a bust of a draft pick.
If he wants to be the next Will Gholston (a Bucs fourth-round pick in 2013), then his production must pick up in a hurry.
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November 25th, 2023 at 3:45 pm
Another banger by Jason Licht.
November 25th, 2023 at 3:46 pm
Give me a break the guy is a total bust just like JTS. O linemen on opposing teams just laugh at these two guys.
November 25th, 2023 at 3:47 pm
Hall and JTS strike fear in the hearts of QB’s. lol.
November 25th, 2023 at 4:03 pm
Not a single memorable play between these two bums.
November 25th, 2023 at 4:07 pm
“Not a single memorable play between these two bums.”
Ryan Jensen is sure to disagree.
November 25th, 2023 at 4:14 pm
Still think this guy can play but don’t got none , ain’t helping ,, Oh boyyy 🤔😔🧐……….
November 25th, 2023 at 4:22 pm
Interesting if you go back & relook at the 2022 draft & how the 1st & 2nd Rnd DEs/OLBs are doing thus far since they were drafted …
1 – Walker (Jax) … 7.5 sacks
2 – Hutchinson (Lions) … 15 sacks
5 – Thibodeaux (Giants) … 14.5 sacks
30 – Karlaftis (Chiefs) … 13 sacks
33 – Hall (Bucs) … 3 sacks
38 – Ebiketie (Falcons) … 6 sacks
40 – Mafe (Seahawks) … 10 sacks
46 – Paschal (Lions) … 2 sacks
56 – Williams (Cowboys) … 8 sacks
61 – Jackson (49ers) … 6 sacks
64 – Bonito (Broncos) … 7 sacks
Hall was probably a reach at the top of the 2nd Rnd, but gut feel is that he’s being used differently than most of those DE/OLBs drafted in his same year (much more inside?). Hopefully Rodgers is right and he’s on the upswing.
November 25th, 2023 at 5:14 pm
I didn’t realize you were writing comedy now, Joe. Good one.
November 25th, 2023 at 5:35 pm
trash juice
November 25th, 2023 at 5:37 pm
JTS and Hall are giant, athletic guys, and neither look like they belong in this system. You go for the athlete with those picks, and I cant fault Licht for picking a lineman. I do start to wonder who the last pass rusher Bowles has developed here was.
November 25th, 2023 at 6:48 pm
Maybe move him to guard or tackle??
Guard the water bucket??
Tackle anyone who gets close?
November 25th, 2023 at 7:41 pm
What are the odds an all-pro lineman blows up in his 3rd/4th year?
November 25th, 2023 at 7:56 pm
Both are invisible.
November 25th, 2023 at 7:56 pm
Was really unimpressed with his college highlights. Don’t know what the scouts we’re looking at. Picking athletes instead of football players, looking at you JTS, has hurt us.
November 25th, 2023 at 8:50 pm
More JTS howling. Hall will get a few touches tomorrow with LVD out. Hope Devon White shows up.
November 25th, 2023 at 9:13 pm
Is hall the one that knocked Jensen out of football?
November 25th, 2023 at 9:50 pm
He’s a bum, under performing, plain and simple. He’s a body on the d-line.
November 25th, 2023 at 9:53 pm
Joe Troyon is in the same boat, high draft picks who have dissapointed. It happens.
November 25th, 2023 at 10:06 pm
Off-season moves should involve cost cutting to the roster with under performing players that are not detrimental to the salary cap.
November 25th, 2023 at 11:14 pm
“Year 1 he was a high-mental-error guy; now he don’t make none.”
Our coaches talk about ‘mental errors’ but have yet to master the English language. How can you expect to teach when you can’t even speak? It just really speaks to the metal acumen of our teachers and might help explain why no one on this team seems to be getting better.
November 25th, 2023 at 11:17 pm
Jts is about 5x worse than hall. I know not saying much but hall can at least still become a will ghost on type guy which is his ceiling not great… but it’s better then the nothing burger that Jts will get you.
November 26th, 2023 at 1:00 am
Bring back the lawn chairs, yes Hall is the one that injured and ruined Jensen’s career. He will never be able to make up for that.
November 26th, 2023 at 5:38 am
He is the elephant in the room. Licht had to spend two more high draft picks to make up for busts JTS and Hall. That’s two high draft picks the could have been used on a QB or RB. Next year when we need to spend picks on a QB or RB Licht has to use more high draft pix to recover the lack of production in the pass rush. Licht is the problem. Fire Bowels and Licht. Because one guy can’t coach the ones the Licht shouldn’t have picked
November 26th, 2023 at 5:42 am
They drafted JTS without him even playing the year before! It was a total reach, and the Buc scouts would do better sticking closer to home looking for talent then the far Northwest! Don’t know what Licht was thinking on JTS. What’s really shocking is they’re starting the bust! Doesn’t matter how bad JTS gets slapped around by NFL tackles the Bucs keep putting him out there for more. Like all of a sudden he’s going to start balling. G.M., and coaching failure with both players.
November 26th, 2023 at 7:05 am
UNFAIR world of NFL Fans and MEDIA?????????? Sorry Joe , but you are what your stats say you are , and in the case of Hall , that is well below average. Especially when you SHOULD have stayed where you were and drafted Devin Lloyd instead of gifting him to the Jags. You then groom him to replace Lavonte. Why were the Jags eager to move up? Jags knew that Lloyd was going to be ready to start year 1 on a PLAYOFF team. Lack of vision and understanding draft value by Jason Licht. Thanks Jason.
November 26th, 2023 at 10:50 am
You don’t take projects in the 1st or 2nd round…
But that’s exactly what Hall and JTS are.
Hoping to one day reach Will Gholston status (a 4th round pick who is just a slightly above average run stopper), is a pretty low goal for the 33rd pick in the draft.