Bucs Almost Made A Move For A Running Back
November 16th, 2023
Swing and miss.
You know how sad and depressed Joe is about the Bucs’ garbage running backs? Joe is ready to uncork a bottle of Big Storm Distillery’s Coyote Ugly bourbon to celebrate a failed acquisition.
To “fail” on an acquisition means you tried to acquire a player. The attempt is the first sign that the Bucs admit they have a very deep problem at running back.
Per Field Yates of BSPN, the Bucs put in a waiver claim on recently released Jets running back Michael Carter.
The first step into addressing a problem is to admit you have a problem.
At the trade deadline, Joe was screaming — screaming! — for the Bucs to get a running back. In response, the Bucs stood pat.
Joe wishes the team would have had this epiphany some two weeks ago that they needed a running back. It’s better to come to grips you have a running back problem than to never admit there is a problem.
It’s awfully hard to upgrade your roster after the trade deadline. Dudes walking the streets are unemployed for a reason.
The fact the Bucs have faced reality and tried to address their pathetic running backs room is nearly a reason to offer a toast.
Carter was “awarded” to the Cardinals, who have a worse record than the Bucs, so they were first in line among the teams that put in a claim on Carter.
November 16th, 2023 at 10:12 am
I feel like they didn’t want to waste draft capital on someone who might have been a 10-game rental.
November 16th, 2023 at 10:12 am
Agreed,
But they were not giving up draft pick. That’s when the skid started.
November 16th, 2023 at 10:13 am
I’m ok that the Bucs didn’t trade draft capital for a potentially temp RB fix. I don’t believe we have the team to make a run and win the SB. But we can win the division for the 3rd yr in a row and perhaps compete in the wild card round.
But YaYa, Wirfs, Winfield, Kancey, etc. shows that Licht can get some good quality players in the draft. Those draft hits are valuable long term for us vs a temp RB fix. Not sure I’d trade any of our quality players or vet leaders for a temp RB fix either.
November 16th, 2023 at 10:24 am
White does make a fine receiver. We have some other UDFA running back who looked ok in preseason. I don’t remember his name. (yeah, not a great sign.). Why not call him up for a game or two. How much worse than Sneak could he possibly be?
November 16th, 2023 at 10:25 am
So after many many months of it being clear the Bucs have running back issues (dating back to the off-season), literally the only move that Jason Licht tries to make is a lousey wavier claim on a below average 3rd down back.
I’d say it’s more of a “bunt and a miss”….just pathetic stuff from the GM.
November 16th, 2023 at 10:25 am
And yeah … I didn’t want to cough up a pick either.
November 16th, 2023 at 10:33 am
To me it is a major problem with the Bucs, the GM and coach. Once the season starts they stand pat. Last year screamed for help on the OL. Result =No=lost season for Tom Brady!
This year the same. JTS’s performance screams for a benching =NO= no rush. Need a new running back = No = at bottom of league in running.
Sounds familiar??
November 16th, 2023 at 10:42 am
Keep White as the long term 2nd head of the 2 headed monster and draft another Legarrette Blount rock pounder. Problem solved.
November 16th, 2023 at 11:09 am
F Arizona…
November 16th, 2023 at 11:28 am
play calling would do a LOT for the running game.
When someone watching from home can call a run play pre snap and be 90% accurate….well WTF do you think.
of course the professionals on the field and in the booth know exactly what is coming.
BM has done a great job making canales not look like lefty….but the playcalling still sucks.
November 16th, 2023 at 11:30 am
Running back wouldn’t help right now until this offense makes a defense fear the pass. 250 yards passing isn’t scaring anybody.
November 16th, 2023 at 11:51 am
Anyone that believes ROJO is not significantly better at running the ball than anything on our roster is an idiot. Blame your GM Jason Licht for the last 2 years in season lack of moves to improve your team.
November 16th, 2023 at 12:03 pm
At least they tried to get Carter. I don’t think it made sense to try and get a guy like Carter by giving up draft capitol.
November 16th, 2023 at 12:04 pm
And three stories lower on JBF “Abysmal Running Numbers”
November 16th, 2023 at 1:00 pm
Teams don’t usually give up future draft picks if the HC is on the hot seat. Save those picks for the next guy.
November 16th, 2023 at 1:10 pm
“didn’t want to give up a pick.” – you guys treat 3rd, 4th and 5 round draft picks like theyre worth more than f’ing antimatter. This weird, bizarre assumption that you should desperately hold on to picks for the 20/80 chance that your precious pick would turn out to be better than a Javonte Williams ( lol they wont) is moronic. Just simply moronic.
2 things are at play, the Bucs sat on their hands and stubbornly had their heads in the sand or they know EXACTLY what they are and that there is zero upside to doing anything right now because they are simply an average to below average team in almost every phase and they plan on stripping this thing completely down to build back up this offseason, and frankly I would understand the latter
November 16th, 2023 at 1:11 pm
Where the Bucs are with the cap and how close they are to a super bowl are the deciding factors. We can’t trade for just anyone, it has to still fit within the current cap and the future cap. If we decide we are rebuilding next year, then we need all the draft capital we can get – especially if we try to trade up. We would be mad if we chased a back and then they left for a year. Did you see how easily we bottled up Derrick Henry? That was really the only good back to get. You don’t see any of those free agent backs doing anything on the teams they landed with. So, I don’t blame them for not making a move in free agency or the trade deadline. I do blame them for not drafting a back – they should have done that.
November 16th, 2023 at 1:20 pm
Picks in rounds 3,4,5 are used to move up the board in rounds 1 and 2. It’s like you have never watched a draft.
November 16th, 2023 at 1:22 pm
“where the Bucs are with the cap and how close they are to the superbowl are the deciding factors” – GREAT comment. Agree.
Dont agree about Derrick Henry comment. 8 out of 10 times Henry runs for 100+ on us. Bucs likely gave the Titans looks they didnt expect, played press man for the first time in 800 years, stacked the line, and made Will Levis work for it. And Henry wasn’t the play anyway. Henry likely built up enough equity with Tennessee to have a say in where he wants to go, that wouldnt have involved Tampa. Now Javonte Williams, whom is much MUCH better than Michael Carter and a perfect fit for Canales Scheme may have been had. But to your point that I agree with, thats a move a make if you’re close. We are close to NOTHING. They likely know what we are, and we arent a player away
November 16th, 2023 at 1:28 pm
Realistic optimistic, youre so cute – I bet you love the modern draft that’s catered to women and children that spans 34 days now, with god awful cliche “growing up poor, on welfare, mama working 8 jobs sob stories in between each pick, with each pick being sponsored by some cornball corporate entity. Ya I know how the draft works sweetheart, still doesnt mean they turn out to be better than a known Quantity. But hey, theres always another kicker we can draft in the second round! *crossing fingers*
November 16th, 2023 at 1:38 pm
It depends on the draft whether you use 3rd, 4th and 5th rounders to move up.
Really, there are not big-time draft hits typically in the 2nd round either. So, not sure of that strategy.
The 2nd rounders typically you hope are starters but there are not a lot of difference makers in the 2nd round. We got one with Winfield.
But you can’t name 10 other 2nd rounders in the last three years that are better than Winfield.
In fact, the 2017 3rd round draft had more big-time players drafted in it than any 2nd round of draft from 2017 to the present draft.
November 16th, 2023 at 1:42 pm
Hmm, there’s this pretty good WR named Chris Godwin. He was a 3rd round pick. But that defeats your narrative. I gave you a valid reply and you gave me a rant about society that had nothing to do with my post. Thanks.
November 16th, 2023 at 1:52 pm
We could have traded a 7th round pick for Carter and that would have done the trick. However, the Bucs were just listening and nobody was talking.
November 16th, 2023 at 2:24 pm
He would have been a 3rd string runningback, just replacing Vaughn. He’s nothing special, but better than Vaughn.
Now go sign Ronnie Brown already. I don’t know what he did to p/o Bowles, but get over it.
November 16th, 2023 at 2:40 pm
MarineBuc, that made me laugh. And I agree.
November 16th, 2023 at 7:50 pm
Drafting an offensive lineman in the first or second every year would produce a running game. Its pretty simple stuff There ars skill playes everywhere. Just give them room to run and catch
November 16th, 2023 at 9:08 pm
What happened with Sean Tucker? He splashed during TC, is he hurt?
November 16th, 2023 at 11:41 pm
Mike Says:
November 16th, 2023 at 9:08 pm
What happened with Sean Tucker? He splashed during TC, is he hurt?
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I don’t know if anyone knows for sure, but if I had to guess, I’d say that he has had issues with pass blocking. When he got runs early in the season, he didn’t look like anything special, but some people pointed out that almost every time he was in the game, it was a run – and teams were picking up on that.
If he can’t pass block, then teams know if he’s in the game, it’s a run – and some thought is that is why he’s been completely sidelined while he learns how to pass block.
Of course you could just make him run routes in the passing game and not block, not sure why that hasn’t occurred to anyone if that is really why he isn’t playing.
However, I’d just go back to the fact when he was in the game, and he got a decent number of carries early on, he just didn’t look impressive. Plus he must have blown some assignments since he’s in the dog house.
But it’s all speculation, but probably there is something to some of it.
November 17th, 2023 at 4:37 am
Joe I love your spirit but come on man.
8 carries this year and averaged 3.5 last season?
No thanks. Hard to believe that we put in a claim at all. Unless Jason wanted him as some draft pick trading material.
Go Bucs!