BSPN: All Todd Bowles Needs To Do Is Get Bucs To Win
November 9th, 2023
Bucs coach Todd Bowles.
Since the Bucs got basted, broiled and roasted by rookie quarterback C.J. Stroud and the Texans on Sunday, Bucs fans are beyond irate.
The constant cry and howling Joe hears and reads is that coach Todd Bowles must not return for 2024.
(Yes, Joe reads daily how folks want Bowles gone this minute. That simply is unreasonable.)
But the screaming for Bowles’ head on a platter has been picked up by folks up in Bristol, Conn. working for BSPN. Mainly Dan Graziano.
In sort of a notebook format looking at coaches whose seats are growing warmer, Bowles’ name was invoked but not dwelled upon. Graziano believes, yes, Bowles’ seat is warm but he can save his job thanks to the rotten NFC South.
Graziano is correct. The Bucs are still only 1.5 games out of first place in the awful NFC South. The Bucs can still win this division.
So the best thing Bowles can do for his job security is win. No more complex than that.
Per John Breech of CBS Sports, a CBS computer model gives the Bucs a 29 percent chance of making the playoffs. If it comes down to a wild card berth, the CBS software has the Bucs in a three-team dead-heat with the Vikings and Dixie Chicks.
As for Bowles’ job security, a Bucs fan twittered Joe yesterday saying it is ridiculous not to remove a coach who loses five straight. The Bucs are currently on a four-game losing streak.
Joe reminded the reader that Raheem Morris lost nine games in a row and not until he lost his 10th game, the finale of the 2011 regular season, was Morris relieved from his job.
No, Team Glazer has never kicked a coach to the curb during the regular season. And Joe is not inclined to gamble against never.
November 9th, 2023 at 5:13 am
Who is going to continue watching Bowles lousy product on the field at this point?
Unless you’re a masochist people have tuned out this garbage they see on the field every week. The guy literally doesn’t know what to say at this point except we got to coach it better and they got to play better. F him and F this garbage product he’s in charge of.
I want the entire Bowles staff fired. Until then you can take this product and shove it Glazers.
November 9th, 2023 at 5:25 am
Mayfield’s overall EPA when under pressure in 2023 is +0.9, which doesn’t sound particularly impressive until it is noted that the next quarterback on the list, Buffalo’s Josh Allen, is at -7.1. After that it’s the Cowboys’ Dak Prescott, at -8.7. Kansas City’s Patrick Mahomes, a certified wizard when plays break down, is at -54.3.
November 9th, 2023 at 5:40 am
All he has to do is win? Really? As opposed to what other goal?
November 9th, 2023 at 5:42 am
Glazers might surprise us and pull the plug on Bowles if he does not win Sunday.
November 9th, 2023 at 5:53 am
He has 100% lost the team. Just watch/listen to yesterdays Carlton Davis interview. He is, internally laughing, all the way to the bank. Urkel has got to go.
November 9th, 2023 at 6:01 am
Firing Todd Bowles mid-season makes little sense since we’d be losing a head coach AND a defensive coordinator. Replacing 1 mid-season is challenging; replacing both and expecting an improvement (the reason for firing someone?) is asking for a LOT.
I have a hard time caring any longer what our 2023 record is, since we’re not going anywhere in the playoffs anyways (talent doesn’t just magically appear mid-season, and ours is lacking). Licht has shown me that when he drafts in the Top-10 he does OK (not fantastic, but OK). When he drafts outside the Top-10, our top picks are spotty at best (Hall, JTS, Howard, VHIII don’t thrill me, but Wirfs, Kancey, Vea are quite good).
November 9th, 2023 at 6:04 am
The biggest loser, defeatist, mentality is accepting being terrible in the NFC South- with the goal of sucking just a tiny bit less than the other teams to make the playoffs.
I will die on this hill.
ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL
November 9th, 2023 at 6:12 am
If one looks at coach Bowles’ stint as Jets head coach and his current tenure as Bucs head coach, one would see the same coach. Passive, keep everything in front of you (until someone blows by you), poor game management etc. He is not an NFL head coach. Never has been. Just stop already Glazers.
November 9th, 2023 at 6:46 am
I like Todd Bowles he seems like a good man a great family man but that of course is from the outside looking in. When it comes to being a head coach you get graded by your win/loss record. Last year really wasn’t on Bowles after getting the job later than he should have. But make no mistake about it, this team is Todd Bowles team. Long losing streaks, playing not to lose but not really playing (at least) defensively playing not to lose rather than playing to win is a huge red flag. Against Houston Bowles coached the second half like he was not playing to win but playing not to lose. If he had kept the defense as active as he was in the first half where he was mixing up coverages and blitzing I think we win that game hands down. Is this the guy we want leading our team again next year?
November 9th, 2023 at 6:47 am
9 games left. Gotta keep fighting. Regardless of the odds, I have faith that the Bucs can still pull this off and make the playoffs. And I don’t care what the NFL Suits say about us or the pathetic “fans” on this site who have already given up. Without faith you aren’t really a fan folks!
November 9th, 2023 at 6:59 am
Comical how everyone thinks it’s unreasonable to fire Bowles right now, because they’re only 1.5 out of first…but never say anything about being just 2 games ahead of the last place panthers. On the subject of pass rush, which is pathetic. Anyone know the reason why Markees Watts hasn’t seen a snap yet? Not one play as a pass rusher or special teamer. Definitely a bucs life.
November 9th, 2023 at 7:23 am
Joe, is this crazy, or could Bowles remain next year as D Coordinator? I think he isn’t a good head coach, but he loves defense.
November 9th, 2023 at 7:28 am
We’re eating $75 million this season, there was zero expectations on Bowles to do anything magical. If he manages 8-9 wins, the Glazers will be happy
November 9th, 2023 at 7:34 am
Jason Lichts’ team roster is woefully inadequate due to many poor decisions Licht has made and the decisions he has not made. Anxiously awaiting Joes’ MidSeason Jason Licht Confidence poll………………………
November 9th, 2023 at 8:13 am
The worst thing the Glazers can do is allow Bowles to win 7 or 8 games and keep him around. He has proven time and again he is not capable of the top job.
What good is making the playoffs when you don’t stand a chance of winning a game when you get there?
Just another #19 pick is the answer. And Licht would probably pick the next OJ Howard and then tell everyone how much he was hoping a player he could get in the 2nd rd would fall that far.
History!
November 9th, 2023 at 8:17 am
America’s HC, Mr three and out, Swiss cheese defense, Todd Bowles.
When you fight for your limitations, that is all you’re left with.
At this point 3-15 is a distinct possibility.
Just lose baby.
November 9th, 2023 at 8:26 am
Im with you Bucs U. Not watching and wishing anymore. This is a farce and B.S product. Bowles is completely lost.
November 9th, 2023 at 8:43 am
Being in a bad nfc division but still winning the division was already used last year
The team got demolished in the first round. Who cares to see that happen again?
November 9th, 2023 at 8:45 am
“The Bucs can still win this division.”
So can Carolina. They just need to win every remaining game. Which is about as likely as the Bucs winning it.
Good Lord, Joe get your head out of your . . . uhhh, the clouds!
You may not accept it, but the Bucs will finish out of the playoffs, Bowles will get fired, a new QB will be drafted, Mayfield or Trask, but not both, will be retained to transition, White will be gone. Tryon. Gone. Dean and Davis, gone. The coach will not be some neophyte who might be good a la Raheem the Idiot. It will be a second chance guy like Jim Schwartz or Harbaugh. (Does Harbaugh like golf and water?)
It will be a brand new start next year.
November 9th, 2023 at 9:03 am
am i the only one who didnt realize we had to win? like thats f crazy, i never even thought of it
November 9th, 2023 at 9:17 am
Lose. The point of Graziano’s take (which apparently went by you) is that Bowles is not (yet) a dead man walking.
November 9th, 2023 at 9:19 am
Only people that need to get their heads out of their (fill in the blank) are the folks who believe Bowles is a dead man walking and will get fired in the coming days.
And there seems to be a helluva lot of people out there thinking the Glazers will do just that. They may, but Joe’s not betting against never.
November 9th, 2023 at 9:21 am
The Glazers. Maybe you forgot or are just unaware but the NFL is a business and a home playoff game is quite lucrative.
November 9th, 2023 at 9:22 am
Crazy.
November 9th, 2023 at 9:24 am
Gonna guess like Kyle Trask, he hasn’t shown enough to be given the keys to a starting job.
Only panicked coaches in a last-grasp effort to save their hides are inclined to start dudes in the NFL who haven’t earned the starts.
November 9th, 2023 at 9:26 am
Win the turnover battle!
November 9th, 2023 at 9:33 am
Just because they never have before does not mean it wouldn’t be the right move. The Glazers only get to make this call because they are rich kids, they are not geniuses who’ve earned it, they bought their way into that position.
How were they better off sticking it out to the end of the season with Raheem or Lovie or Schiano or whomever?
If nothing else an interim coach gives the fans something to be interested in, to see how he does, like a test drive.
November 9th, 2023 at 9:33 am
Defense held Lions and Eagle to at least a Touchdown less than they had been scoring. Gave up 20 and 25 points respectively. All other teams were held to less than 20. One game they give up a ton of points and now the problem is the Defense. Cleveland gave up almost 40 to the Colts. It happens.
Bucs have an offense that can’t score points. Take what the defense gives them, put up nice stats, and can not close the deal. Might as well take shots at the end zone from the 30 because once inside the twenty they can’t get it done.
Week 9 was not a sign of things to come. It was a one off just like the defensive. Look for things to go back to normal this week.
Getting close to week 11 and 66% of the snaps. Expect QB play to become even more conservative with less risky runs. Half a million pay day is approaching and getting benched or injured will kill it for a second year in a row.
November 9th, 2023 at 9:40 am
Again, Joe has typed repeatedly “Joe is not inclined to bet against never.” Oh, guess it’s possible Glazers could remove Bowles before January. Sure don’t expect it. At all. There is no evidence they will. There is plenty of evidence they won’t.
The sh!t show run by Raheem Morris (all kinds of really, really rotten stuff going on behind the scenes) and him losing nine in a row didn’t motivate the Glazers to make a move. Why would they for Bowles? And yes, this angers people, but the Bucs can still make the playoffs.
Joe just can’t look in the clouds and say, “That cloud looks like Ed Glazer. That must mean Bowles is canned next week.”
November 9th, 2023 at 9:47 am
Bowles will remain for the season which is what you want if you want the Bucs to land a top 3 pick. It is the defense that will be their demise. They have become easy to game plan now that their vulnerabilities have been exposed.
November 9th, 2023 at 10:10 am
And all I need to do is grow 15 inches to play basketball
November 9th, 2023 at 10:32 am
Sure the Bucs have a outside chance of capturing a playoff spot. When pigs fly. Not too upset about it as Buc fans have seen it all at this point.
November 9th, 2023 at 11:08 am
How far down does the % go should we lose to Tenn?
At that point, we need to see Trask. Maybe he shows out, maybe not.
I am not a Trask fanboi either.
It is just common sense at that point. Baker is going to get PAID by some desperate team. Doesn’t he lead the league in tipped balls and RAINBOW passes?
Freaking midget.
November 9th, 2023 at 11:10 am
Re-assign Arians to emergency interim coach, like Indy did back in the day. Let him show Canales how it’s done with a fearless quarterback, a big slot receiver, and a great outside receiver.
I am sure the linebackers coach or someone could call defensive plays as well as Bowles has been calling them since about the time of the Rams playoff loss fiasco two years ago.
November 9th, 2023 at 2:37 pm
When Joe says,
“The sh!t show run by Raheem Morris (all kinds of really, really rotten stuff going on behind the scenes) and him losing nine in a row didn’t motivate the Glazers to make a move. Why would they for Bowles?”
Joe, have you ever heard of learning from past mistakes? I’m not being sarcastic or satirical at all – serious question.
Pathetic > Bowles. Your polls have clearly demonstrated that.
November 9th, 2023 at 5:46 pm
If we drafted a first rd QB who has Bakers stats thus far and no running game and Bowles defense blowing the kids would be come back score agaisnt the Texans fans would be ecstatic!! And blaming Todd soley for any erratic play, but since it’s Baker, who was the first overall pick BTW, people on this site want to Lynch him!! Stupidity at its finest
November 10th, 2023 at 6:30 am
I don’t think Bowles is ever gonna be the answer here in Tampa. But for all those clamoring for his being fired, think about the consequences short term and long term.
First is the market for head coaches is slim to none right now. The good ones are all working or are weighing better options. I don’t think we are on the top of anyone’s list of places to coach right now. We are a dumpster fire in the eyes of most. Think the Canalles situation recently.
Long term we are in rebuild mode for the forseeablle future despite the company line of soft reboot. Who is gonna sign up for that? Harbaugh? I think he’s smarter than that and would want a team that has a better/younger core of players. He is in the drivers seat as to where he winds up.
Looking at the list of possible replacements I just do not see any sure fire fits. Maybe Rich Bisaccia would like to call Tampa home again after all these years?
I really do not look forward to trying to find a quality HC. We have all been through the wringer with regime changes here in Tampa and I for one do not look forward to another.
Go Bucs!