Growing Pains, Frustration… In New Orleans
October 26th, 2023
Tough days in the Big Easy.
Bucs fans can relate.
Almost as much as Joe enjoys a Bucs victory, Joe loves turmoil in slimy Saints camp. Call it “schadenfreude.”
But there is also irony that Bucs fans can relate to.
Bucs offensive coordinator Dave Canales says it takes time for his players to learn his offense. Just this week Canales added there is no quick fix.
Meanwhile, the Bucs are struggling terribly on offense. Enough that the Bucs may scrap their run-first desires.
Fans are getting impatient. And with a head coach some thought to be on the hot seat to begin the season, one has to wonder whether Todd Bowles is running out of patience as well. He has much more to lose.
Across the Gulf are the slimy Saints. Same issues. They have a defensive-minded coach in Dennis Allen, who is overseeing a woeful offense led by a seasoned veteran quarterback. Like Bowles, Allen’s collar may be getting tight.
While the slimy Saints have veteran offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael, like the Bucs they have a brand new quarterback trying to fit in. Unlike the Bucs where cohesion and unity with Baker Mayfield seems to rule the locker room, slimy Saints offensive players seem to be melting down if not openly hostile to Derek Carr in game situations.
Allen told his team’s website, by way of John DeShazier, that the growing pains of his offense should be in the rear view mirror.
“I think it’s time for those to be done with,” he said.
So here is the New Orleans coach saying he doesn’t want to hear about growing pains for an offense with a veteran quarterback in late October.
So what’s going through Bowles’ mind watching his team’s offense score 13 points or less in three of the past four games?
October 26th, 2023 at 10:20 am
Two offensively futile teams.
Almost mirror reflections.
Compared to BowlesCanalesBall, I miss RiskitBiskit.
I feel badly for the D. Great efforts, but after an impotent O keeps them on the field, they get ground into the turf.
October 26th, 2023 at 10:24 am
“So what’s going through Bowles’ mind watching his team’s offense score 13 points or less in three of the past four games?”
Thats easy – thank God we are not paying a starting QB salary like the Saints.
October 26th, 2023 at 10:26 am
Excited to see the offense ball out tonight. Bc if they don’t, we will get smoked. The defense has been tough. Time for Baker to take it to the next level. Hoping he doesn’t have any balls batted down that are surefire completions/TDs.
I will tolerate you until I can replace you, youngry MFers. Race to 10! -Raheem probably
Go Bucs!
October 26th, 2023 at 10:29 am
We’re 3-3 and lost to two good teams and one crap team but YAAAAAAY we’re winning the turnover battle. This is the crap you get with a defensive head coach. SMH
October 26th, 2023 at 10:36 am
JOE you said it perfectly in an article. Why feed white more than your star players in ME13 CG14 ? Canales says there’s no quick fix um I think that is total BS. Feed your star players. It’s not rocket science here. Feed our stud WRs that’s why they get paid the big bucks. Use white more in the passing game instead of the running game.
October 26th, 2023 at 10:46 am
In today’s NFL…. It’s all about the QB. New England without Brady; Buccaneers without the Superbowl winning Brady; Saints without Brees…etc etc…Draft a QB (and if not get RB help)
October 26th, 2023 at 10:46 am
Teams are both poorly coached……
October 26th, 2023 at 10:47 am
New Orleans’ issues have less to do with Derek Carr and more to do with his receivers doing the wrong things out there. I’m not talking about the Foster Moreau drop either.
October 26th, 2023 at 10:49 am
I think the Bucs have to throw the football more, and live with the results.
Who knows, maybe they are successful, and it helps open up the run.
October 26th, 2023 at 11:03 am
Eff the Saints. Couldn’t happen to a better franchise and fan base. Whoever dat is, dey ain’t it.
October 26th, 2023 at 11:12 am
Exactly the same thing happened in N.O. that happened here – the Saints went from a successful offensive minded coach to promoting from within a very conservative defensive minded coach who has tried to makeover the team in his own image.
Both teams had offenses stocked and designed to throw the ball down the field but the new coach wanted to run the ball to run the clock, shorten the game and keep their defense off of the field. And in both cities it has failed badly.
Now both coaches are on the hot seat deservedly so.
Both fan bases are disgusted and running out of patience as both were very bad hires from the start.
N.O. we feel your pain. Don’t really like you guys at all so I hope Bucs get straightened out before you guys do.
However, our coach is Todd Bowles, so…………….
October 26th, 2023 at 11:42 am
When will the Buc fan base tire of Dungy Lite?
But the bigger question is when will the Glazers tire of Dungy Lite?
October 26th, 2023 at 11:44 am
Now we know why Joe hates Trask – FSU fanboys still dreaming of Jameis.
Give it up boys that ship has sailed.
October 26th, 2023 at 11:44 am
the problem is Hainsey has no push and White sucks and cannot create. what is wrong with schemeing so they run around the edge? the push up the middle is not happening thx to Hainsey and Cody mauch and whoever the other the other guard is now (forgot — good thing!) It just is not good enough-cannot imagine Licht thought Hainsey was good enough as he must of known Jensen was never going to be reliable. We ALL knew that Jensen was never going to play–he blew up his knee and did nothing about it–that never works. So now we will see if Chase Edmonds is better–Bills run defense is bad.
October 26th, 2023 at 11:54 am
Carr has stunk so bad at the Saints, I actually feel sorry for him.
He’s a really good dude. I used to watch the Raiders a lot.
When the tv zooms in on him, I see fear, confusion, and no confidence, in his eyes. That’s bad when you are the teams QB.
October 26th, 2023 at 1:20 pm
I certainly welcome the return of Chase Edmunds. He’s not going to be our bellcow, but he had the best production of anybody in the RB room. At least by my eye.
As for Carr, he wasn’t anything to write home about with the Raiders and I didn’t think he was worth signing at all. He is certainly no better than Baker. If you’re going to get mediocre ya might as well get it cheap.
October 26th, 2023 at 1:57 pm
I’m sick of all the crap about how no one wants to see Baker throw the ball 40+ times a game. The ONLY reason he didn’t do it very much in Cleveland is because he had Nick Chubb. If the Bucs had Chubb they’d be 5-1. Oh, and every QB is a game manager- every one of them. And few (if any in this league) can carry a team on his back.
October 26th, 2023 at 5:00 pm
Both head coaches are retreads after a disastrous first go around…panic hired once their offensive minded head coach bolted. The Sewer City Saints are saddled with a Used Carr QB at a high “sticker price”. It’ll be interesting how long they stick with him…while Winny waits in the wings in hopes of eating his next W and/or D.
October 26th, 2023 at 7:04 pm
WyomingJoe no one cares what you’re tired of, you need to go back to the Browns boards and leave ours alone. You should go marry Mayfield since you feel so strongly about him.