Vita Vea Blows Up Matt Feiler
August 2nd, 2023Tis’ the season to overblow individual plays and drills and drops.
And why not, that’s part of what being a fan of a team is all about. With only 20 or so games per year, hyper-analyzing practice and offseason moves are critical to mental health.
Last night at the Glazer Shed, the Bucs had a practice in pads and the always-fun drills with defensive linemen going 1-on-1 against offensive linemen was on display in one area.
Bascially, the O-line sets up normally but there’s only one D-lineman on the other side of the ball. His job is to beat one specific offensive lineman and get to the quarterback (aka a Bucs assistant coach).
Joe was able to see four matchups clearly:
Vita Vita blew up left guard Matt Feiler with a bull rush that made Feiler look like a cartoon character backpedalling into the quarterback.
Anthony Nelson easily beat Luke Goedeke (right tackle) off the edge. Nelson’s hands were quick.
Cody Mauch (left guard) did a nice job holding up Will Gholston.
And rookie YaYa Diaby off the left edge couldn’t get past Tristan Wirfs, who was fired up after his win. YaYa reminds Joe of a young Jason Pierre-Paul. There’s mad respect around One Buc Palace for his overall athleticism. He is a specimen.
Joe’s view got blocked, but it also appeared that Robert Hainsey scored a win at center. Starting center Ryan Jensen was not practicing yesterday, a common happening through the first six practices of training camp.
August 2nd, 2023 at 9:13 am
Starting center Ryan Jensen was not practicing yesterday.
My concern will be how he will play through the season.
Just surmising that since he did not have surgery on the ACL, he will not make it through the season.
August 2nd, 2023 at 9:30 am
Geno711, Ryan Jensen had gotten stem cell therapy opposed to surgery although it’s only been popular for a few years it’s been proven that its technology is far more superior and successful than traditional surgery. I believe that more athletes are going to trend this in the future.
August 2nd, 2023 at 9:31 am
This is why I don’t understand Feiler being anointed starter right off the bat.
August 2nd, 2023 at 9:31 am
Same with Goedeke.
August 2nd, 2023 at 9:35 am
I dunno whether to be more excited about the D-line or more worried about the O-line lol
So stoked for preseason compared to prior years haha
August 2nd, 2023 at 9:43 am
Good thing we have both Nick Leverett and R. Hainsey to play Center if Jenson has issues with that knee.
They both have ample experience…
August 2nd, 2023 at 9:46 am
Geno… the ACL was fine. It was everything else that was injured.
August 2nd, 2023 at 9:47 am
Logan Mankins played full seasons on a torn ACL and MCL and still made the pro bowl. It has been done and if anyone was gonna do it today it would be big red. No doubt.
August 2nd, 2023 at 9:50 am
Vea blows up a LOT of OLmen. This is more a VV + that Feiler -.
August 2nd, 2023 at 9:57 am
Read that Hainsey & Mauch double teamed Logan Hall on a rushing rep and my heart fluttered. I don’t think people understand how we’re moving from a system that asked OLmen to make that block and win 1v1 compared to zone blocking being about sending blockers into space to simply carve out a running lane.
August 2nd, 2023 at 10:01 am
I like that Diaby reminds Joe of JPP!
As far as Vita Vea trucking an OL, he does that a lot. Remember the playoff game at Green Bay when he threw a Pro Bowl Center like he was throwing a little kid?
If Nelson is beating Goedeke on the edge, count me in as being concerned about RT.
August 2nd, 2023 at 10:15 am
Luke Goedeke Getting beat by Anthony Nelson bothers me but it was probably Matt’s first time facing vea one on one or in a real game, he’ll catch anyone like that.
August 2nd, 2023 at 10:22 am
The O-line will get beat for the majority of the season, get used to it.
August 2nd, 2023 at 10:26 am
We’ll have a better feel how the o-line and d-line look once they line up against other teams!
August 2nd, 2023 at 10:28 am
JL has shown he can evaluate talent on the O-line and has a strong track record in this regard. But building a great O-line isn’t something that happens overnight, especially when you’ve got so many players playing together for the first time, some of whom are switching positions as they are. I wouldn’t judge the O-line based on how it looked yesterday, one week into training camp. They’re going to be much better on Sept 10th when we play our first regular season game, and they’ll continue to get better throughout the season.
August 2nd, 2023 at 10:42 am
Da Bucs Guy Says:
August 2nd, 2023 at 10:22 am
The O-line will get beat for the majority of the season, get used to it.
^^^^^^^^
Thank you, Little Miss Sunshine! You sound like a Saints fan, why don’t you go to their sites?
August 2nd, 2023 at 10:49 am
Goedeke gonna be a huge liability. Hope there’s a Plan B.
August 2nd, 2023 at 10:52 am
” hyper-analyzing practice and offseason moves are critical to mental health.” Joe’s deserve a beer for that observation.
August 2nd, 2023 at 10:57 am
Hilarious to watch people draw snap conclusions based on one instance of individual matchups.
August 2nd, 2023 at 11:00 am
It’s just a couple reps Joe caught, so I’m not reading into it too much. I’m naturally concerned with Goedeke and that doesn’t help. But yeah, I’m pretty sure Vita has and can bowl over just about any lineman in the league! Just wish it led to a few more sacks on occasion.
August 2nd, 2023 at 11:11 am
All but one have either changed position or are brand new to the squad. And that one, isn’t even practicing yet. Not to mention all the changes to the offensive scheme.
We may not see a cohesive unit until several games into the regular season. We certainly won’t be able to judge what the rest of the season will be like till then.
August 2nd, 2023 at 11:19 am
Hopefully Luke pulls it together. I read Yaya and JTS beat him in some reps too. I wonder how good Jensen will do after taking so many days off missing a lot of reps
August 2nd, 2023 at 11:20 am
WORST DAY AT THE OFFICE …
The day you draw VV on the 1-1. You know you’re just a speed bump.
Goedeke needs to step up. Make or break year for him.
August 2nd, 2023 at 11:28 am
Is this how they are getting around the CBAs ban on …certain drills these days?
LOL cool to see some fun hitting competition. Hard to imagine Fieler getting blown up by anyone…Even Vea. Wow!
BTW folks one on one drills always have one winner and one loser and it varies snap to snap who that is. Don’t take this drill too seriously.
Give Nelson more snaps! I think he looks bigger and he is a better player than most think. Showed it late last year.
Mauch at left guard? umm wow one bad play and they put the rookie in your spot? LOL
Jensen’s knee and stem cell therapy. I have a good friend here who had it for a very bad knee worked like a charm…for six months…they can only do it once per year he was told. He aggravated it I think by overdoing some cycling. Limiting Jensen’s reps right now sounds like a good idea.
Go Bucs!
August 2nd, 2023 at 11:31 am
Every rep is important this time of season. Both lines could really benefit from the work. Excited about the zone scheme, and I think this defense gets better by working against a different look in practice.
August 2nd, 2023 at 11:34 am
The good news for Feiler is there aren’t too many other players in the league like Vita Vea. Goedeke getting beat by Nelson is the most concerning comment. Seems we may need to use a TE on his side to chip to help keep the QB upright.
August 2nd, 2023 at 11:39 am
SlyPirate Says:
August 2nd, 2023 at 11:20 am
“WORST DAY AT THE OFFICE …
The day you draw VV on the 1-1. You know you’re just a speed bump.”
And that was when i realized I #$%ed up. LOL
Go Bucs!
August 2nd, 2023 at 12:07 pm
so, same as last year. good friggin luck if the OL does not shape up. no more Brady to get the ball out.
August 2nd, 2023 at 12:19 pm
Sample size of 1, but kinda confirms some of our concerns and doubts about the lesser talents on that line.
Very very good to see Wirfs nailing it at the new position though!
August 2nd, 2023 at 12:24 pm
Either the pass rush will be great or the OL sucks. Trade Devin White to Bengals for Jonah Williams. I trust Sirvocea more than Goedeke, so far!
August 2nd, 2023 at 1:08 pm
One rep confirms nothing.
What if Joe had, instead, reported the reps where Goedeke stonewalls our best rushers. Feiler, I’m sure has had good reps against Vea and others too. This is selective reporting and it creates a narrative. Now some of you boobs think those individual reps are representative… Maybe they are, maybe they aren’t, but you just don’t know without the bigger picture.
What’s consistently lacking in commenters reacting to stuff like this is perspective. Try it sometime.
August 2nd, 2023 at 1:31 pm
“Da Bucs Guy Says:
The O-line will get beat for the majority of the season, get used to it.”
Really. You sure about that? “Da Bucs Guy?” Highly doubt it. Go back to the team you really cheer for and do your circle jerk there.
August 2nd, 2023 at 2:15 pm
Anybody else remember Caleb Benenoch?
The draft pick who was gifted a starting position at RG?
Goedeke was gifted a starting role last year.
He has been gifted another starting role this year.
I want to see Mauch at RT.
Let Goedeke, Leverette, and Stinnie compete for RG.
Mauch is insanely athletic. (But has short arms)
Mauch is 6-6 and 300 pounds. A former LT.
I want to see Mauch at RT.
August 2nd, 2023 at 2:34 pm
Feiler is going to do just fine. Veta is a load for anybody. Dude is a Powerhouser.
August 2nd, 2023 at 4:05 pm
Let there be no question as to why sports pundits rate the O-line so low. With a rookie at RG and Goedeke at RT this is a disaster waiting to happen. LG is a bust.
August 2nd, 2023 at 4:18 pm
Proudbucsfan Says:
August 2nd, 2023 at 9:30 am
Geno711, Ryan Jensen had gotten stem cell therapy opposed to surgery although it’s only been popular for a few years it’s been proven that its technology is far more superior and successful than traditional surgery. I believe that more athletes are going to trend this in the future.
I try to keep up with all things medicine. I support stem cell therapy as opposed to surgery in lots of instances. I also believe that there can be medical miracles of healing in individuals. If Jensen suffered a partial tear, then stem cell could have been an alternative treatment to surgery. I do not think it was a partial tear. It was a full tear. Jensen, I also understand had the PCL and MCL tears.
I have not heard of any successful cases though of stem cell therapy on full ACL tears – whether pro athlete or anyone else where the person did not have surgery first.
If you could point me to any examples of ACL full tears being healed by stem cell therapy (with no initial surgery), that would be appreciated.
If you believe as I do, that it was all three ligaments, my concern is that he won’t ever return to elite athletic ability with only therapy as compared to something that gives him the stabilization one might more likely get from surgery. Again, what I like to call the current gold standard.
Just my opinion.
August 2nd, 2023 at 4:46 pm
Our below average d line is smashing our awful offensive line, what could go wrong?
August 2nd, 2023 at 5:25 pm
nice! i love this article joe!
August 2nd, 2023 at 6:26 pm
Vea is 350 lbs
August 2nd, 2023 at 7:03 pm
YaYa reminds Joe of a young Jason Pierre-Paul.
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That’s high praise, would be amazing if it turns out that way.
August 2nd, 2023 at 7:03 pm
Mike S Says:
August 2nd, 2023 at 6:26 pm
Vea is 350 lbs
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Vita was 350 when he was in the best shape of his life at the combine. There’s no way he’s not at least 380 now.
August 2nd, 2023 at 8:24 pm
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August 3rd, 2023 at 1:13 am
Wrong matchup . Should be VV Vs Wirfs
August 3rd, 2023 at 6:54 am
Vita Vea has had quite a few blockers back peddling from his bull rushes. It is pretty impressive, but just think what he could do if he threw the blocker off, or developed a spin move. He might add 3-4 more sacks per season.