Odd Statement On Pass Rush By Kacy Rodgers
August 1st, 2023
Bucs DL coach Kacy Rodgers.
There very well may be a logical reason for this. But on face value, Joe can’t think of one.
Bucs defensive line coach Kacy Rodgers was one of two assistant coaches who spoke with the local pen and mic club at One Buc Palace this afternoon. There, Rodgers stated something Joe has a hard time squaring.
Think about it: What is the one element that the Bucs greatly lack on defense that could be the difference between a top-shelf defense and one that might be just OK? No, Joe isn’t buying what Bucs coach Todd Bowles squawks about: takeaways. This is bigger. And unlike takeaways, putting the quarterback on his ass isn’t rooted in blind luck.
Joe’s talking about pass rush. More specifically an edge rush.
So Rodgers said today was the team’s first meeting dealing specifically with the pass rush. Today. August 1. A week after training camp began.
The lone area of the defense that is lacking and the team thinks so much of this it waits a full week before meeting to discuss, gameplan and/or brainstorm.
The Bucs ought to have two meetings a day on this matter! Having a pass rush could mean the difference between a playoff team and picking in the top-10 in the draft and maybe hiring a new head coach.
Again, Joe admits a logical reason may exist. But on face value, it smells.
Does the team wait a week to have a quarterbacks meeting? A linebackers meeting? An run blocking meeting? But the most important element of the defense the Bucs have such a high priority about pass rushing they wait a week to focus on it?
#Sad
August 1st, 2023 at 6:45 pm
I’ll let the guys who are paid to coach decide how to coach while Jo3 blows smoke out of his arse.
August 1st, 2023 at 7:02 pm
The discussion probably lasted all of one sentence. It just needs to be better.
August 1st, 2023 at 7:03 pm
Maybe you’re reading a little too much into this Joe? According to your words, Rodgers said this was the ‘team’s first meeting dealing SPECIFICALLY with the pass rush’.
Given our problems stopping the run last season, maybe they decided to START by focusing on that, then transition to focusing on the pass rush. Todd Bowles has said many times (in so many words) that stopping the run is Job 1.
August 1st, 2023 at 7:04 pm
I get where you’re coming from Joe, but I’m sure they know the score, and how important the pass rush here. I’m liking the rotation we will be able to use between the D line and LB. Getting Barret back will be a huge boost, and I
really think(hope) JTS takes the next step.
August 1st, 2023 at 7:07 pm
Sasquatch have you personally seen Joe performed this smoke act or do you think it requires some meetings?
August 1st, 2023 at 7:08 pm
what
August 1st, 2023 at 7:09 pm
It may be a timing thing to coincide with putting the pads on and being able to practice like their going to play
August 1st, 2023 at 7:15 pm
I think you’re reading too much into this Joe.
August 1st, 2023 at 7:26 pm
Coaches HAD to have had countless pass-rush discussions so far. I mean, this is the NFL, yes? I’m sure they’ve been discussing it for months, just like every other team.
August 1st, 2023 at 7:26 pm
Kacy Rodgers is a Solid Coach, he fully understands schemes and how to use his personnel. Having to step in front of a mic and a group of reporters, knowing they are going to dissect every word that comes out of his mouth… That’s not his strong suit (yet), bet your a$$ he puts Cousin in the turf 4 times week 1.
I have full confidence he knows all about pass rush.
August 1st, 2023 at 7:35 pm
I guess he figured there was no rush.
August 1st, 2023 at 7:37 pm
You can meet as many times as you want, without the right players- it’s pointless- I’d rather have JPP and Suh two years removed than some of these young project guys- Vita Vea was coming on very strong- Anthony Nelson is good. Shaq if he’s healthy and dialed in is amazing White causes a ton of disruption- we need a few more marquee players that we just do t have on the roster. Maybe a rookie will surprise- let’s hope
August 1st, 2023 at 7:37 pm
*don’t
August 1st, 2023 at 7:38 pm
All talk until the pads go on. Not faulting Rodgers as there is no way to judge anyone during under-ware football.
August 1st, 2023 at 7:40 pm
Kacy Rodgers is the defensive line coach.
George Edwards is the OLB/Edge rusher coach.
That’s two different rooms and then meeting together to talk about the pass rush, after absorbing weeks of training and probably film on their relative job assignments.
It’s really not that hard to grasp Joe, but I’ll attribute this to sack lust and honing in on just sack production is really just asking about 1 of the many job duties football players have. Everything isn’t as simple as it seems from the outside looking in, that’s why this is the greatest team sport on the planet.
August 1st, 2023 at 7:46 pm
It’s called “installation,” Joe.
The entire playbook is not installed on Day One.
August 1st, 2023 at 8:01 pm
Problem number one is JTS. Time to move him to a backup role.
August 1st, 2023 at 8:03 pm
Maybe they could set up an ad hoc committee?
August 1st, 2023 at 8:10 pm
Ummmmm, Joe, in the opinion of this layman, and I’m sure you’d agree, pass rush/pressure = turnovers.
August 1st, 2023 at 8:14 pm
Most often Brady was throwing as fast as he could get rid of the ball. Fear of getting hit? No confidence in the o line? Dink and dunk became his style most of the time. He hated to get hit!
August 1st, 2023 at 8:31 pm
I would think this is the first time they could really evaluate what they have because of not being in pads. Now they know what they’ve got and need to form the defense around their strengths. Just my thoughts.
August 1st, 2023 at 8:54 pm
Same defensive scheme, same coaches, expected the same starters. Don’t have to start from scratch, I would think specific areas would be worked on starting about Day 2. Head scratcher for sure. Well, it’s Bowles’ ass in the hot seat, and he needs the defense to perform at a consistantly high level if he’s going to keep his job.
August 1st, 2023 at 8:59 pm
Dude – take always derive from the pass rush. Turnovers are far more important than sacks, everybody but JBF knows this. The Bucs were fourth in the lead in sacks, but only middle of the pack in points allowed. Sacks are useful but we saw far too often last season that a sack that put the opponent behind the chains still resulted in a third down conversion, or worse, a score.
Turnovers, however, ALWAYS result in preventing a conversion or a score.
Sacks are important, but turnovers change game outcomes.
August 1st, 2023 at 9:01 pm
So they are prioritizing against the run. Old school.
August 1st, 2023 at 9:37 pm
Based on reports from practice, there hasn’t been much of a pass rush. The QBs have been dominating. I’m in total agreement with Joe. A good pass rush helps the secondary tremendously
August 1st, 2023 at 9:40 pm
Pass rush is pretty simple. You get passed or knock over the guy in front of you and go for the guy standing in the backfield with the ball.
Right now they might as well practice on technique to get passed the guy because there is no hitting. Even when you get to the QB there ain’t no hitting him.
Concentrate on the the schemes and know where to go and when. Learn the plays.
I’m sure once they get film of the first couple preseason games there will be plenty of meetings.
August 1st, 2023 at 9:53 pm
Pass rushers don’t have much to do during underwear football, just point out a few things.
Then it takes everyone a day or two to get used to pads.
Their playbook is also not real extensive, so not a lot to hammer into pass rushers until hitting starts to happen.
August 1st, 2023 at 10:38 pm
Not really worried if Bowles doesn’t have this team ready he will be in the unemployment line. Pretty sure he knows what’s at stake.
August 2nd, 2023 at 12:08 am
If JTS cannot perform then he needs to be moved to the bench, his first round pick status means nothing. So if we see Nelson is better or YaYa is coming on then JTS is benched–he has already had his chance and was not effective enough.
August 2nd, 2023 at 4:44 am
I would be very surprised if they have not at least gotten together as a staff and spread the word before now. I’m also sure that all the Vets are aware of needing to do a better job. Coaching up Diaby and the rest is paramount though.
I am really hoping that they give Nelson more snaps this season. Not really expecting any miracles from the new guys this year.
Go Bucs!
August 2nd, 2023 at 6:01 am
Not trying to devalue the any part of the pass rush. But pressures and hurries
are also effective at rushing the QB’s decision and playmaking abilities. But good QB’s still have fighting chance after a sack, I don’t think our super bowls season would have happened if we didn’t have turnovers to set up scores for the offense.
August 2nd, 2023 at 1:28 pm
EVERY DL & LB JOE’S INTERVIEWED THIS YEAR HAS TOLD YOU WHY …
Devin White, Vita Vea, LVD are all quoted in Joe’s articles on their immediate focus.
This shouldn’t be a secret to any regular reader.
The defense wants to get back to stopping the run. They were terrible at stopping the run at the end of last year. Once they get that fixed, they’ll start on pass rush.
The short-term memory loss on this site is troubling.
August 2nd, 2023 at 2:01 pm
i doubt they have simply ignored pass rush this offseason. more likely that they have focused on formations, keys, and snap-to-snap roles all week and they now have enough practice tape on the position groups to talk about what they need to see from various guys or how they will build off of the basics individually and collectively