More Belief In Baker Mayfield
August 25th, 2023
Another former quarterback analyst has joined those singing the tune of Baker Mayfield being very capable of reviving his career in a big way.
Retired Bucs quarterbacks Chris Simms (NBC) and Shaun King (VSiN) have said Mayfield has the skills and they wouldn’t be surprised if he thrives in Tampa.
Now throw in another former Bucs QB, Dan Orlovsky, who explained on BSPN this week why Mayfield absolutely can be this year’s Geno Smith, who made the Pro Bowl and completed 70 percent of his passes last season.
“This how [Mayfield] would have to do it. No. 1, and this is what Geno did great last year; take the free and easy completions that this offense is going to build in,” Orlovsky said. “That’s different than play-action. The bootleg game, to his right and to his left, getting his hips fipped. And No. 3, he’s got to own the play-action game. … That is a foundational aspect of this offense. You gotta be great with the easy ones, own the movement game and master play-action.”
Regarding play-action, the BSPN feature focused on the Bucs having the NFL’s lowest percentage of play-action plays last season — while Seattle has led the league in play-action over the past 10 years. Seattle, of course, is where new Bucs offensive coordinator Dave Canales spent the past 14 years.
Also chatting about Mayfield was former NFL defensive back and personnel executive Louis Riddick. He is dialed in on Mayfield’s inconsistency. If that’s not fixed, per Riddick, Tampa heads are sure to roll.
“Flash players get you fired,” said Riddick, explaining that’s something Bill Belicheat taught him.
August 25th, 2023 at 9:25 am
Roll-outs and sprint-outs will be a welcome sight after watching the last guy become a scared statue.
August 25th, 2023 at 9:37 am
Preseason ends Saturday; too late to dismount at this point. Gotta let it play out, hope for the best & see what happens. If we’re 2-2 after the Saints game, Baker will have earned another 4 games or so. If we’re 0-4 or maybe even 1-3, wouldn’t be at all surprised to see us hop on the Trask train, at least for awhile. Hey, Wolford might even have a shot at being the 2023 Brock Purdy.
August 25th, 2023 at 9:39 am
You mean defenders won’t be able to target the quarterback in the same exact spot in the pocket ever single play? What a groundbreaking concept! Gee whiz defenders will have to actually think now!
August 25th, 2023 at 9:40 am
Check the stats… Mayfield’s career trajectory… actually a little ahead of a guy that was drafted by the Chargers and went on to have a Hall of Fame career with the Saints. Mayfield has actually had more success throwing the ball in his first five seasons than Brees did in his first five. Look it up. Better numbers for Mayfield, fairly similar players… except Mayfield is a little taller, has a much stronger arm, and was a higher draft pick.
August 25th, 2023 at 9:49 am
You can measure all of the immeasurable stuff you want; I accept Duh Baker as the conditional starter.
Beyond that will be a pleasant surprise to me, if he succeeds. Until then he will have to prove it to me. His last two teams let him go because they let their dreams and aspirations lead them and were let down.
Trask will also have to prove it, but I’d give him more rope, enough to cover a learning curve.
I do hope for the best, but I live in the real world.
August 25th, 2023 at 10:08 am
I’m before the Trask peasants come up in here crying victim. Life isn’t fair, wahhhh, my ginger hero wasn’t gifted a starting job even though he couldn’t even dress on game days and beat out Blaine Gabbert, wahhh I’m a virgin, wahhh I’m a moron, I’m a Gator fan longing for the Aaron Hernandez glory days
August 25th, 2023 at 10:16 am
Can we get an endorsement from a former successful QB then it might have a little credence!
August 25th, 2023 at 10:18 am
Shaun King … That’s the moron who said “Trask stinks” … Joe had a big article on that … Now he’s presented to us as a “quarterback analyst” whose opinion on Mayfield we are to respect … Where’s the accountability? … LMAO … No thanks.
August 25th, 2023 at 10:37 am
Nick Foles was a super bowl MVP/ All pro quarterback in Chip Kelly’s system. Since then you don’t even hear his name, everybody has to be in the right system
August 25th, 2023 at 10:54 am
I’m glad to see that Brandon agrees with me.
August 25th, 2023 at 11:03 am
Great! An endorsement from Moe, Larry and Curly.
August 25th, 2023 at 11:05 am
Mayfield is in the perfect system here. I believe he’s going to thrive IF we can get a consistent run game and reliable 3rd receiver.
August 25th, 2023 at 11:22 am
I haven’t seen Shaun king at derby lane in a while. I wonder what’s up with that?
August 25th, 2023 at 11:24 am
About time someone like Brandon, obviously one of the more elite Buc’s fans, chimes in with facts. Baker had to learn a little. Got good. Got hurt. He’s healthy again. He’ll get it done even better than Brees. I don’t really knock other Buc fans too much, because, ANYONE can be dead wrong. Even a College HOF coach like the Alabama Jack Ass gets it wrong. While at Miami, said Brees was finished. You guys just poked this bear too much. He’ll make you all eat a great big dish of cold crow. You can line it up in advance for your play-pff parties.
August 25th, 2023 at 11:26 am
Kind of tough (if not pointless) to hit up Derby Lane on a consistent basis when you work and live in Vegas and your office is located at Circa.
August 25th, 2023 at 11:31 am
BAKER BAKER BAKER … Deal with it! Very good things are coming.
August 25th, 2023 at 12:03 pm
I do believe when Baker is on he is really good and electrifying but when he is off he is terrible, Baker Mayfield has definitely been a flash player.
August 25th, 2023 at 12:12 pm
No surprise that failure/subpar NFL QBs turned analyst think another faliure/subpar NFL QB is good. Tell us something we don’t know Joe.
August 25th, 2023 at 12:15 pm
You guys get so lost in the sauce. When bullets start flying this offensive line is going to be an issue. I’ll remind you that I told you so after 3-4 games
August 25th, 2023 at 12:42 pm
Mayfield will be league MVP, 35 TDs, 9 Ints, 5000 yards. He will be the best QB the Bucs ever had. Lol.
August 25th, 2023 at 1:27 pm
And, just like that….. Baker has turned his career around, and in the Pro-Bowl.
All it took, was a couple podcasts.
August 25th, 2023 at 2:02 pm
Seeing is believing and in a few short weeks we will. 1’s against the 1’s. Toe to toe for at least 60 minutes.
We will see for ourselves and be able to make our own assessments. Some may be right or some may be wrong in their early judgements or bias’. Perhaps like any argument there is some truth and we end up meeting in the middle.
As far as for right now we have been dependent on good folks like Joe to share what they have seen with their own eyes. I like to think that Joe called it right down the middle without bias. Thank You.
Others might tend to word things to make it look like something totally different.
For example I read an article with the heading ‘Baker Torches Defense’. It was referring to the last practice. Way down buried in the article in the second to last paragraph was some information about the 11 on 11’s. 1st team offense practiced against 2nd team defense and 2nd team offense practiced against 1st team defense. I can understand why they would do it. To see who stands out against the best we have to offer. Glad to hear that the 1’st level offense Torched because Minnesota will be trotting out their best and hearing that gives me a little more optimism.
August 25th, 2023 at 2:30 pm
Brandon Says: Check the stats… Mayfield’s career trajectory
Done. In the first 5 yrs for both. Brees 40-34 (with a stinker 2-9), Mayfield 31-38 (with a stinker 2-8). I concede they are similar.
Mayfield will have be able to stay in the league long enough to play as long as Brees and have a record of 141-76 going forward. That is one heck of a trajectory to win 65% of his games starting now. Bucs should win 10 or 11 games in 2023. Awesome.
August 25th, 2023 at 3:24 pm
Who would you rather have Blaine Gabbert or Baker because apparently they are both better than Trask. Stop blaming the Bucs for him not being good enough. He put in the work and got much better but don’t blame anyone for his failures.
August 25th, 2023 at 4:11 pm
Dwayne .. there is no way in hell that this team wins 10 games.
That is all.
August 25th, 2023 at 9:29 pm
Buc1987 Says
Buc1987 Says
Not even with Drew Brees at his best.
You really have to look back to what I was replying to.
If Baker is to follow Drew Bress Trajectory he would have to win 2 out of every 3 games each year for many years. That would mean 10 games this year. Not that I agree.
That is all.
August 26th, 2023 at 1:59 pm
Are we really comparing Baker Mayfield to Drew Brees? I hope not