Bucs Training Camp 2023 Practice Notes Day 6
August 2nd, 2023
Bucs practiced indoors last night. (File photo)
Better late than never.
Joe is typing these here notes after retrieving Joe’s notebook from the media workroom at One Buc Palace — where Joe got run out by the cheerleaders because they allegedly booked the media workroom and Joe’s desk was being commandeered by some makeup person. đ Joe was lucky to find the backpack with the notebooks.
Joys of being a sportswriter.
So Joe is typing from the beautiful, friendly, comfortable Big Storm Brewing cafe at Bill Currie Ford to try to get these notes uploaded quickly before heading to Hooters for lunch.
One-on-One wide receiver/defense back drills
* Zyon McCollum tries to cover Mike Evans and as Dick Vitale would say, “It’s an M&Mer, baby. A mismatch.” Evans gets separation down the right sideline and scores.
* Ronnie Brown gets past Ulysses Gilbert down the right seam.
* David Moore grabs a ball while being defended by K.J. Britt.
* David Moore outmuscles Kenny Britt for a ball as Moore came in from the right side.
* Rachaad White does a stop-and-start on SirVocea Dennis for a catch.
* Schiano Man cornerback/safety Christian Izien (Rutgers) sure looked like he held Kade Warner.
* Evans on McCollum again and Joe is feeling sorry for the second-year man from Sam Houston State.
* Chris Godwin goes against Jamel Dean and while Dean had good coverage on Godwin, the Bucs’ Pro Bowl receiver made a beautiful catch over the shoulder for a touchdown. Kyle Trask threw the pass.
* Dee Delaney got worked over by Deven Thompkins over the left seam.
* Speed kills: Trey Palmer blows past Anthony Chesley (Coastal Carolina) to bring in a touchdown pass from Trask.
* Cade Otton smokes Kaevon Merriweather (Iowa) but Otton drops a sure touchdown pass.
* Otton redeems himself catching a pass later along the right sideline.
11-on-11
* Rachaad White runs right, cuts left for a nice gain.
* Kaylon Geiger pulls in a pass from Baker Mayfield along the right sideline for a first down and more.
* Coverage sack. Mayfield waits and waits and finally pulls it down and bolts to the left.
* Godwin catches a pass from Trask over the middle for about 15 yards.
* Trask tries to connect with Ryan Miller to the right and the ball is overthrown.
* Mayfield pumps and then sails a pass over Rakim Jarrett’s head as the Maryland product came back for the ball along the right sideline.
* PICK! Keenan Isaac got an interception while covering Moore. Mayfield was the quarterback. This is not looking like a good night for Mayfield.
* John Wolford throws a rope to Taye Barber (TCU) down the left side.
Seven-on-seven
* Trask aims for Godwin under the goal post and looks to have a touchdown but Antoine Winfield races in and swats the ball away.
* Trask tries to connect with Otton down the right sideline but it’s incomplete. Britt had coverage.
* Trask tries for Jarrett down the left sideline but too long. Trask isn’t particularly sharp tonight but he’s not throwing picks.
* Mayfield hooks up with Chase Edmonds down the right side.
* Mayfield connects with Miller.
* Mayfield throws for David Wells on a post route and Don Gardner blows up the play.
* Mayfield throws to rookie tight end Payne Durham over the middle at the goal line for six.
* Baber catches a Mayfield pass in the far left corner of the end zone.
* Mayfield fires to Palmer for a touchdown but in a real game, Mayfield would have been sacked.
Red zone
* Mayfield tries to hit Evans in the left area of the end zone but Josh Hayes won’t have it. He skies and knocks the ball away from Evans.
* Warner catches a pass from Trask along the left sideline and is immediately hit by Hayes. The rookie sixth-round pick from Kansas State is finally flashing.
* Trask rolls right and hits Sneak Vaughn for a touchdown. Bbbuuuttt… if this were real football Joe Tryon-Shoyinka would have planted Trask.
* Mayfield for Geiger in the back of the end zone and Dennis prevents a touchdown by getting a paw on the ball. Should Britt be concerned? Joe thinks so.
* Mayfield tries for Wells and it sure looks like Merriweather interfered with Wells.
* Mayfield for Jarrett in the far left corner and here comes a flag on Izien.
* Mayfield to Jarrett for a nice gain as Izien had coverage.
Two-minute drill
* Godwin gets a big gain to the left on a bubble screen, catching the rock from Trask.
* White runs left, cuts right and is stopped at the line.
* Trask tries for Miller on the left side and Merriweather gestures with his hands that he was a victim of a pushoff.
* Somehow Deven Thompkins finds space on the left side some 20 yards downfield and Trask ropes a pass to him. Joe will state again someone has kidnapped Trask and the imposter is wearing his jersey. This is not the same quarterback.
* Trask rolls right and finds an open Trey Palmer. This is Palmer’s best practice as a Bucs player.
* Edmonds runs right for a decent gain.
* TRICKERY! Edmonds catches a short pass from Trask. Edmonds then flips the ball back to Trask who fires down across the field for Jarrett who is wide-ass open.
* FIGHT! White runs to the left side and as he goes out of bounds, camp meat outside linebacker Brandon Bouyer-Randle (UCONN) flies in and blasts White with a forearm shiver to the grill. White then punches Bouyer-Randle and a baseball brawl breaks out. Joe saw Vita Vea, Robert Hainsey and Luke Goedeke in the middle of the scrum and so too was Trask trying to pull bodies apart.
* Trask hits Durham over the middle on a crossing pattern for a score.
* Mayfield throws the ball away under pressure.
* Trask connects with Thompkins on the right side.
* Vaughn is caught behind the line for a loss of a run.
* Anthony Nelson bats down a Mayfield pass at the line.
* Izien jumps a route on Mayfield and nearly picks off the pass.
* Mayfield, under pressure from YaYa’s Flame Broiled Chicken Diaby, launches a pass way down the right side and Thompkins skies for the ball above Isaac for a monster gain. Diaby bumped Mayfield after putting his giant arms down, sort of hugging himself to avoid contact.
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August 2nd, 2023 at 2:40 pm
That was a punt thrown by Mayfield.
August 2nd, 2023 at 2:42 pm
Another pick and near-pick by Mayfield. Jameis 2.0.
August 2nd, 2023 at 2:43 pm
Great Joe!!! as usual…..
August 2nd, 2023 at 2:43 pm
“YaYaâs “Flame Broiled Chicken Diaby” already over seeing this after just a few times haha. That’s gonna get old fast!
August 2nd, 2023 at 2:48 pm
Thanks Joe!!
August 2nd, 2023 at 2:49 pm
No way we can let Mayfield start
August 2nd, 2023 at 2:51 pm
Sounds like a great practice! Everybody aggressive , everybody making everybody all they can be!
August 2nd, 2023 at 3:00 pm
Joe keeps mentioning that the QBs are not being hit. This means they are throwing under less pressure. OK, so why all the picks and near-picks by Mayfield? What does that say about what he will do under game pressure?
August 2nd, 2023 at 3:04 pm
Thx Joe, very good, as usual.
By the way, what’s going on with Warner’s kid, ho’s he doing?
Thx
August 2nd, 2023 at 3:05 pm
Thompkins and Palmer turning it on is a good sign even with vets Gage and Moore on the roster. Bucs WR depth chart is going to be very deep.
David Wells and Tanner Taula have been catching every pass thrown their way or it seems like. So it was good to read that Durham is flashing finally.
And Josh Hayes right now is really turning it up because it looked like Dee Delaney would win NCB by default. Now? Not a given at all.
August 2nd, 2023 at 3:06 pm
Hearing good things about Trey Palmer. Of course we’ve had other rookie training camp heroes who flamed out by the end of preseason, but so far so good.
August 2nd, 2023 at 3:11 pm
Sounds good, glad to hear so many of our depth guys in the secondary are getting a good amount of reps.
I’m liking the idea of McCollum, Gardner, and probably Keenan Isaac potentially being boundary CB depth.
That Devin Thompkins catch sure as hell looks like it belongs on his Utah State highlight reel. The hops, the body control mid-jump while tracking the pass, and hauling it in to finish the play.*Chefs kiss*
Good job Joe, you’re doing good.
August 2nd, 2023 at 3:13 pm
Gotta chance to make the club.
August 2nd, 2023 at 3:18 pm
Duane says hearing good things about Trey Palmer.
Not on this site your not.
August 2nd, 2023 at 3:20 pm
Thanks for the notes, Joe. It was great to hear that Jofh Hayes is finally making plays. Thompkins? He has got to see some action in games. Dennis too.it was good to hear that Palmer had a good night. He’d been sounding Shakey lately. You make JTS and Diaby sound pretty good too…and Nelson. There’s your edge rush.
August 2nd, 2023 at 3:21 pm
Thanks Joe!! I like that the defense seems to be honing in on the running game. The quarterback competition seems to be playing out nicely. But it seems like the competition has shifted to Mayfield and Wooford for the backup position.
August 2nd, 2023 at 3:26 pm
That highlight from Thompkins is giving me a little hope.
Awesome to see young players like him and Trask developing nicely.
That is what this team needs. We have a slew of young players who all need to step up and show they belong in the NFL.
Guys like:
– Thompkins
– L. Hall
– JTS
– Luke Goedeke
– Mauch
– Dennis
– YaYa
– Durham
– Kancey
– Palmer
Are all going to have to step up and ball if this team is to have a snowball’s chance in he11…
August 2nd, 2023 at 3:26 pm
BucU, according to Joe, Palmer had been screwing up a lot since camp started. Last night he apparently rebounded. Joe gave him glowing reports during OTAs.
August 2nd, 2023 at 3:50 pm
Better late than never and the best Bucs notes there is imo
I would say if you have the notebook on you while observing practice, just take a quick screen shot of pages before putting the notebook up for the day/evening and you could just as easily transcribe from that. But mostly just thanks for the notes as always!
August 2nd, 2023 at 3:50 pm
Anyone keeping track of Mayfields batted passes ?
August 2nd, 2023 at 3:59 pm
If Trask goes out there in the preseason and continues what he’s doing in practice, the haters are still gonna hate on him. Is crazy. I hate the Gators but don’t let bias get in the way like everyone else apparently. Like seriously people.
August 2nd, 2023 at 4:06 pm
It might take Palmer and Durham a bit to get going, but it sounds like they both are starting to pick it up.
August 2nd, 2023 at 4:13 pm
Like what Iâm hearing about trask. Time to see him in some real game action.
August 2nd, 2023 at 4:14 pm
Marine Buc: I agree with your list, and if half of those guys âstep upâ this year, the Bucs will do fine. I donât expect the Bucs to hit on all of them, or even 3/4 of them.
August 2nd, 2023 at 4:18 pm
Nice work Joe! Better late than never! We don’t mind if you ducked out for a few beers after practice last night. All good. Keep em coming! Thank you! YaYa!
August 2nd, 2023 at 4:22 pm
@Scott
Itâs been at least 2-3 of them so far and the picks donât help. Again, if youâre struggling with ball security, scoring points takes a back seat as far priorities go.
August 2nd, 2023 at 4:24 pm
Buddy of mine – who has already purchased a Mayfield Jersey (formerly a Browns fan now a season tix holder) – is going to be at practice tomorrow.
We are in the same FF league.
If everything goes according to plan – Trask win the job and plays well – I will draft Trask as my 2nd QB and start him against my friend in the head-to-head matchup.
August 2nd, 2023 at 4:30 pm
Bucsfan94: I donât hate Trask, or any other player on the team. I wish the best for all of them. I donât have any loyalty to any college team, although I did become a Bucs fan as a kid because of all of the Southern Cal players on Tampa Bay in the 70âs.
August 2nd, 2023 at 4:40 pm
#43 RB has great hands, maybe more WR than RB or a hybrid ST – RB- WR utility player
August 2nd, 2023 at 4:53 pm
Only one interception by Baker slows hid chances of beating the club record.
5 in three practices makes it look like a tie at 30.
August 2nd, 2023 at 4:56 pm
Good stuff! Thx for bringing us into the shed, Joe. WRs seem to be completely overshadowing the TEs
August 2nd, 2023 at 5:00 pm
‘So Joe is typing from the beautiful, friendly, comfortable Big Storm Brewing cafe at Bill Currie Ford to try to get these notes uploaded quickly before heading to Hooters for lunch.’
I’m impressed Joe … THREE sponsors in a single sentence (I assume that David Wenk, MD wasn’t there sharing a brewsky with you). Not sure I’d be telling the world though that you quote ‘got run out by the cheerleaders’ unquote (that’s an image buster).
Excellent notes BTW. Sounds like the offense got the better of the defense. I’m starting to be concerned about our nickel CBs. McCollum sounds like easy prey, and Delaney didn’t step up either. Rooting for Hayes to snatch it away from both of them (OK, really rooting for us to re-sign Logan Ryan).
August 2nd, 2023 at 5:02 pm
NO BEERS at the Big Storm Brewing cafe inside Bill Currie Ford. Coffee, sandwiches and pastries, only.
August 2nd, 2023 at 5:03 pm
Thomkins reminds me of Lance Alworth ,( also known as Bambi) from the old San Diego Chargers , He seemed to make circus catches like that in every game.
August 2nd, 2023 at 5:05 pm
Great catch by a guy trying to get a job, but DBs shouldâve been able to at least deflect that.
August 2nd, 2023 at 5:08 pm
No, that wasn’t it. In fact, when Joe got home (he was looking forward to a glass of Bulleit bourbon) and realized his notebook was back at One Buc Palace, well, so much for the bourbon. đ
August 2nd, 2023 at 5:10 pm
Baker has also had three intâs dropped by defensive players. Ryan Neal, Chris Izien & LVD have all dropped Baker passes that have hit them in their hands. So heâs had 5 actual intâs and 3 dropped interceptions. That is factored in as well and doesnât include the cluster of passes batted down at the line of scrimmage.
I think Trask is clearly ahead right now.
Canât wait to see Trask throw dimes to ME13 and CG14 on Sauce Gardner all next week.
August 2nd, 2023 at 5:14 pm
Sounds like a lot of batted down passes by Mayfield.
August 2nd, 2023 at 5:40 pm
Thx Joe! YaYa does have giant arms, he must have an enormous wingspan
August 2nd, 2023 at 5:56 pm
Is Tucker not doing anything?
August 2nd, 2023 at 5:57 pm
So hold up trask is about to be the starter? Iâm going to that Aug 11game (my day) I expect both qbs should get a lot of reps I wanna see this first hand
August 2nd, 2023 at 6:25 pm
Anyone see Colin’s take on Baker this morning?
He nuked him from orbit.
Said he’d be his agent to get him a 7 figure TV deal, but if Baker overstays in the NFL his marketability will drop and it will cost him on an analyst contract.
August 2nd, 2023 at 6:43 pm
Thompkins may be the third WR, if Gage doesnât get his act together.
August 2nd, 2023 at 6:51 pm
Buc4evr Says:
August 2nd, 2023 at 6:43 pm
Thompkins may be the third WR, if Gage doesnât get his act together.
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I was the only person here on the Thompkins bandwagon last year, when everyone else was talking about slow dullard from Western Kentucky that ran like a 4.8, but had a ton of college catches, and people told me he’d be a star in the NFL, despite not getting drafted.
However, even with how much I like Thompkins, I would not want him as a #3 WR, he’s just way too small. He’s tiny. I’ve always said he reminds me of a small D-Jax, and if you remember, D-Jax was already a small guy.
In my mind, Thompkins should be a dedicated returner, and a gadget player, who can line up at WR from time to time. He’s an electric player, remarkable stop/start ability, good speed, and he can catch. But at like 150lbs, he’s going to get knocked around at the line.
August 2nd, 2023 at 6:52 pm
I want to give props to defense rules. I’ve been reading his posts quite often and feel he is the voice of reason and intelligence on JBF. Hated when I went against his wait and see with Trask because 2 different ex Bucs players told me Trask wasn’t doing well at all. Now here we are in training camp and Trask is at least competing maybe way more. If Trask really is doing great then we all win so here’s to Defense Rules being right! CHEERS
August 2nd, 2023 at 6:54 pm
* Dee Delaney got worked over by Deven Thompkins over the left seam.
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Ugh… how is Dee Delaney still on this team. He really seems to know what he’s doing, and I’m sure the coaches love that, but he’s always a step or two behind because he’s just not fast enough. He’s like the exact opposite of Ryan Smith who had the speed, but somehow always managed to be in the wrong place.
August 2nd, 2023 at 6:58 pm
Speaking of being too slow for the NFL, I see Kenny Britt mentioned a few times. He should be a special teams ace, but should never see the field unless it’s a guaranteed run down. He’s just way too slow to be anything but a liability.
August 2nd, 2023 at 7:17 pm
@rod
I agree about Thompkins. Definitely feel he will be WR3 or 4
August 2nd, 2023 at 7:18 pm
And for real about Delaney. Never liked him on the team. Made only a few decent plays ever
August 2nd, 2023 at 7:34 pm
I will not take preseason with a grain of salt and that’s with both quarterbacks because if the starters not playing then how would we know who’s better? The joint practices will tell you who should start at quarterback because the starters will be on the field more!!
August 2nd, 2023 at 7:43 pm
Rooting for Trask
August 2nd, 2023 at 7:49 pm
YaYa Flame Broiled Chicken Diaby is just as stupid as Americaâs quarterback Winston. Why you say it is irrelevant, I would expect you to do better than that.
August 2nd, 2023 at 7:53 pm
Oneilbuc. I 100% agree. Notice how last year the preseason practices were used to criticize Trask but now that Mayfield is crashing and Trask is shining in the practices, they don’t mean anything? Talk about a double system of justice!
August 2nd, 2023 at 7:53 pm
Bucs had the biggest name in sports for 3 years.
Tom Brady.
Names sell tickets. Names sell commercials. Names sell jerseys. Names sell ad space. Names sell concessions.
Tom Brady retired and it’s not like Bucs don’t have other names, because they do – Mike Evans – but they no longer had a name at QB.
As much as Gator fans love Kyle Trask – he’s not a name. He’s barely on the name radar.
So Bucs sign Baker Mayfield who has a name. Business side of football embraced that immediately. Baker Mayfield is the guy day 1 of signing.
The stat junkies, degenerate gamblers, prognosticators, and the win-loss die hard fans rejected that immediately – as evidenced by the 6.5 o/u number.
Now I’m not saying there aren’t Mayfield true believers out there, but the consensus is the name doesn’t translate to wins. Most everyone says Mayfield keeps the gig and the ‘competition’ is nothing more than a courtesy to maintain a sense of fairness in the locker room. So this year was a year of the Bucs riding the Mayfield name until they can get into what many believe will be a banner year in the draft for QBs.
Then TC starts and it seems apparent Kyle Trask didn’t get that memo. Things can change, but as of right now he’s winning the QB competition pretty convincingly. When Ira says Trask has to be that much better than Mayfield to get the gig, what he’s saying is not only does he have to beat Mayfield out, but he’s got to sell ownership on himself being better than QBs in the class of 24 too – which I would think is the harder sell.
Does anyone believe Trask can be a top 10 QB in this league? No? Why not? He’s got all the tools. Despite only attempting 9 passes in the NFL he’s outperforming a veteran experienced in this offense with 69 career starts under his belt. If course we need to see more, but eyes have already been opened.
Are any of the QBs in 24 a lock to be better than what we are seeing from Trask right now? It’s well documented that top 10 drafted QBs are very hit or miss.
This is why the NFL is great. These are big time decisions not for the tender of heart. It takes stones.
August 2nd, 2023 at 7:59 pm
Joe, in your first sentence you mentioned Ryan McCollum. Did you mean Zyon? Or is there someone I don’t know, hanging around?
I was glad to see Trask being a leader when that fight broke out. The video shows him seeming to break it up and players were following him as he walked away. Good stuff.
August 2nd, 2023 at 9:10 pm
Is Wolford getting enough reps to make a case for the #2 job?
August 2nd, 2023 at 9:20 pm
All this camp has proved to me is that the previous offensive coaching staff ( Byron, Clyde specifically) stunted Kyles growth.
August 2nd, 2023 at 9:30 pm
Sounds like both Mayfield and Trask are unimpressive. Still getting balls batted, still throwing picks and near picks despite no actual sacking. What are they like with real pressure in real games? This is the season, folks. These two. Unless Wolford outplays them both at some point.
August 2nd, 2023 at 9:33 pm
LOL Of course not. đ
August 2nd, 2023 at 9:34 pm
Yes, Zyon. Must have been autocorrect and Joe missed it.
August 2nd, 2023 at 10:26 pm
Thanks for the notes Joe. Highlight of my day after long day of work.
August 2nd, 2023 at 10:44 pm
Thank you JBBucs!
August 3rd, 2023 at 2:15 am
Thanks Joe! Good shĂŽt
Really seems like Trask is making this decision hard on the coaching staff. Love that! After all the talk about him being a bust and not winning the #2 job under Br*dy itâs nice to see the young man show up (as he has done in the past) and perform close to the level he needs to. Sounds like he needs to get more consistent though.
August 3rd, 2023 at 3:05 am
Thanks Joe.
What the hell is Brandon Bouyer-Randle thinking! That hit would have got him tossed in a real game. For a guy on the fringe not cool.
Anything on the O line? I keep hearing that would have been a sack but not who let him by. How are Mauch and Goedeke looking so far?
Go Bucs!
August 3rd, 2023 at 6:37 am
steele Says: “Sounds like both Mayfield and Trask are unimpressive. Still getting balls batted, still throwing picks and near picks despite no actual sacking.”
It’s Mayfield throwing picks, near picks, and batted balls. Nice try pinning your boy Mayfield’s miscues on Trask.
August 3rd, 2023 at 9:29 pm
Defense Rules Says:
“Not sure Iâd be telling the world though that you quote âgot run out by the cheerleadersâ.”
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I would have put up a struggle and forced the cheerleaders to kick my arse.