Statheads Very Down On Bucs Quarterbacks
July 11th, 2023
Last Chance U.
Joe sees analysts all over the interwebs that are down on Bucs quarterback Baker Mayfield.
Joe doesn’t know when Mayfield p!ssed in their cornflakes, but man, folks sure seem keen to dance on the guy’s grave.
But no group of NFL types is down on Mayfield quite like the statheads. They absolutely revile him. In fact, Rich Hribar of Sharp Football Analysis thinks so little of Mayfield, he believes Trey Lance is a better option.
33. Baker Mayfield: The Buccaneers seem to have one foot still in on putting up a fight in 2023 and not going all-in on a rebuild. With that, I give Mayfield the best odds to win any potential battle versus Kyle Trask, who could not even get on the field ahead of Blaine Gabbert in Week 18 last season. In 2022 with the Panthers and Rams, Mayfield was 31st among 33 qualifying passers in expected points added per dropback (-0.16), 30th in success rate (35.6%), and 29th in yards per pass attempt (6.5 Y/A). If looking for a silver lining, at least Mayfield will be throwing to multiple viable wide receivers when all that he had in 2022 was D.J. Moore for his stint with the Panthers before taking over a Los Angeles offense down Cooper Kupp.
Again, Joe thinks Mayfield is a low-risk, high-reward gamble by the Bucs. They didn’t have cash to splurge for a quarterback.
Mayfield showed signs of life with Sean McVay last year. Now he’s playing in a McVay-like offense with Dave Canales. If Canales is a good coordinator, then he could resurrect Mayfield’s career.
If not, and Mayfield stinks, eh. Joe will then start pimping brittle Michael Penix for next year’s draft. No big deal.
Oh, where was Kyle Trask listed in Hribar’s rankings? He wasn’t.
July 11th, 2023 at 5:11 am
Yawn…..
Enough please.
Surely there is some other Bucs related thing going through somones head.
Go Bucs!
July 11th, 2023 at 5:51 am
Hribar … ‘I give Mayfield the best odds to win any potential battle versus Kyle Trask, who could not even get on the field ahead of Blaine Gabbert in Week 18 last season.’
Another talking head who believes that Kyle Trask ever had a real chance of beating out Blaine Gabbert for the #2 spot while Tom Brady, BL & BA were here. Really hoping now that he gets the starting nod … and kicks ass.
July 11th, 2023 at 6:38 am
I have nothing at all against Kyle Trask. However if he can’t beat out BM after studying everything from Tom Brady for 2 years then I’ll say it.
He sucks. And so does Jason Licht for picking him in the 2nd round.
July 11th, 2023 at 6:50 am
I wonder where Brady was listed? He was probably worse. And before EVERYONE rushes to defend Brady about his line, lack of weapons, etc, Mayfield dealt with far far worse last year AND in Cleveland. Baker’s coach was canned mid-season in Carolina and he took over for injured Matt Stafford who was having his worst ever year statically… and got a rare win (after being picked up less than a week earlier) for a team that couldn’t win.
I’m no Mayfield fan nor Brady hater, but replacing last year’s version of Brady won’t be difficult. He was awful.
July 11th, 2023 at 6:53 am
Even if we had money to spend on a QB the best one if the bunch was Carr. Yeah the QB who got benched by the Raiders. The QB who’s never won a playoff game. I really don’t see much difference between him, and Baker. As far as Trask goes at some point he’ll be starting a real game for the Bucs. Let’s face it, he was the last pick of the second round, not the first over all pick. People shouldn’t expect much, but you never know. That’s not wasting a pick where he was taken. If he becomes a solid backup it’s a great pick. Look what the 49ers gave up for Lance. Teams are always looking to hit on a QB, Licht did just that, and should be applauded for doing so.
July 11th, 2023 at 7:26 am
5 win season.
July 11th, 2023 at 7:53 am
John Wolford will probably end up being the starter. Lol. Should at least sign Ryan or Wentz if they want any chance of winning. What a bad gamble, Jason doubled down on two horrible QBs. This season will be the race to the bottom.
July 11th, 2023 at 7:56 am
The new Offensive Line will be the most important success factor, regardless of who is starting QB.
July 11th, 2023 at 8:02 am
Joe … ‘If Canales is a good coordinator, he could resurrect Mayfield’s career.’
Let’s ASSUME that Canales is a good coordinator and does in fact ‘resurrect Mayfield’s career’ this season with say a 10-7 record. That may (or may not) get us into the playoffs. And let’s say that Mayfield gets to start all 17 games & escapes the season injury-free. Where do the Bucs go from there?
1 – We’ll be drafting around #20 or so … again. So no drafting a top-tier QB next season.
2 – Baker Mayfield is gonna want in the vicinity of $25 – $30 mil per year (at least) for probably 4 years (with at least half guaranteed) to re-sign with the Bucs. With very limited salary CAP $$$ and quite a few FA mouths to feed (Wirfs, Winfield, White, Gaines, LVD (?), Neal, plus a number of others) can the Bucs afford to sign Mayfield to an extended contract like that based on a 1-year 10-7 resurrection?
3 – Kyle Trask will have sat on the bench for a 3rd straight year & will certainly move on after year 4 assuming that Baker is re-signed.
And those are the easy ones. What happens then in 2024 IF Mayfield reverts to his old self?
July 11th, 2023 at 8:23 am
Brady was a 6th rounder, Brock Purdy was the last pick in the draft. You don’t need a high pick to hit on a QB. Just ask Jameis, and Baker.
July 11th, 2023 at 9:03 am
As soon as I see “expected” in statistics, I quit paying attention.
You can make statistics come out any way you want when you start playing these stupid games.
July 11th, 2023 at 9:11 am
“Should at least sign Ryan or Wentz if they want any chance of winning.”
No football exec on planet earth his muttering this to himself
July 11th, 2023 at 2:35 pm
If Trask can’t out play a QB that has worse stats than any current starter in the league. I would say that is a 2nd round bust for Licht. From what I’m reading on this here site it’s not a QB battle so much as a given who the Starter is. So licht seems to have another high round bust I guess.
July 11th, 2023 at 4:39 pm
Totally agree with you Since76. We should have just brought in a serviceable vet or If we think Trask can play then give him a go. I got zero confidence in Baker. The man had had several chances in this NFl. And has yet to show us he is even a 500 QB. We shall see. I’m just not one of these up i the sky with hopes for this team this year.
July 11th, 2023 at 8:17 pm
I’m sure most of us will start drinking away our sorrows by the first half of the first game. It’s going to be a rough year.