Top Conference Streak Is On The Line
June 12th, 2023
Bucs QB Kyle Trask.
This blew Joe away yesterday. Joe thought maybe it was due to polishing off one too many cans of Bromosa.
Perhaps Joe is still afflicted with PTSD from all the nut-kicks this Bucs franchise has given fans prior to Tom Brady showing up on Jason Licht’s front door. Maybe that’s why this stat blew Joe’s mind.
Would you believe the Bucs currently hold the NFC standard for active consecutive playoff appearances? That’s right. The Bucs have made the playoffs the last three seasons.
That best-in-the conference streak is really hard for Joe to wrap his head around but it is true.
Can the Bucs extend it? Like anything else in the NFL, it’s up to the quarterback.
Joe has a hunch after seeing Baker Mayfield join Tristan Wirfs and Ko Kieft at a Rays game (and drinking macro mass-produced beers with Rays fans) that Kyle Trask better start upping his game.
Maybe Trask needs to use whatever pull he has with Tom Brady to score sweet tickets to treat Wirfs and other teammates to one of Dana White’s Las Vegas human cockfighting events (Brady is a business associate of White).
Trask also could hire a local pitmaster and treat offensive linemen to a Texas-style barbeque. It seems this works wonders for offensive linemen.
Baker Mayfield is the starting QB for your Tampa Bay Buccaneers #GoBucs
— Christopher Mathis š (@thechrismathis) June 10, 2023
June 12th, 2023 at 8:17 am
Or he could just out preform Baker in camp, and win the QB job. It’s a QB competition Joe, not a popularity contest. The QB who doesn’t turn the ball over, and makes the right play will probably start. Being the most popular is not the same as being the best. I’m sure there are plenty of great QB’s who were S.O.B.’s, and not very well liked by teammates. Baker can take them to ball games, buy them dinners, but if he turns the ball over, and plays to level he has in the NFL so far, he’ll be looking for a new team instead of leading the Bucs.
June 12th, 2023 at 8:20 am
We had Brady the last 3 seasons to overcome Bowles Blundering.
June 12th, 2023 at 9:11 am
Nothing wrong with going to a Rays game and supporting the local team, but this was a bit too public and had the feel and smell of an agent arranged event ,( as does many of the āresistance is futile Kyle Trask!ā, articles we are seeing) . Agent propaganda is expected but it needs to be released after the job is won ,youāve done a good job and you āre looking to be compensated properly , but this had the feel of desperation, right now Baker would have been better off and made a better impression showing heās serious about wanting to lead the team,(remember all those hokey commercials Baker made in Cleveland during the regular season while his team was losing?not a good look), by staying home and memorizing the playbook ,( thatās probably where Kyle was), that would have made a better impression, He needs to remember that the competition has just begun and he hasnāt won anything yet.
June 12th, 2023 at 9:19 am
Wow. That is an insane stat.
June 12th, 2023 at 9:32 am
Well, the UF fans have made their opinions known already. If Mayfield beats out Trask it will be a “stolen” QB competition.
June 12th, 2023 at 9:37 am
Mayfield graciously taking selfies with Rays fans………
June 12th, 2023 at 9:41 am
Hope some of that Rays magic can rub off on the Buccaneers. Win seven games at home and you are in the playoffs. Who picked Texas? Who picked the Rays? Who thought the Yankees and the Red Sox would be mediocre?
June 12th, 2023 at 9:51 am
LOL If you are implying Joe has some handshake deal with Mayfield’s agent — Joe has no clue who his agent even is!
Joe doesn’t deal with agents. On purpose. They are far more likely to use you than to offer up candid, reliable information.
Outside of crossing paths with Drew Rosenhaus at the Shrine Game practices in St. Petersburg a couple of years ago for a Shaq Barrett story, the last time Joe spoke with a player’s agent was LeGarrette Blount’s agent when a local old lady tried to fleece him for cash after a fender bender.
Blount hasn’t played for the Bucs in, what, 11 years?
June 12th, 2023 at 10:00 am
When youāre short, fat, on your 4th team in 7 years, and sport a 24.5 QBR each of the last two seasons despite being a āmobileā quarterback, yup, you better buy a round of beers.
June 12th, 2023 at 10:08 am
yeah but does last season’s playoff appearance REALLY count?
June 12th, 2023 at 10:09 am
Trask needs to do his own thing and not look like he is sucking up to Mayfly.
If he stays the course he has been trying to attain for the last couple of seasons he has a chance to beat Mayfly, though I don’t think it will help him be the day 1 starter.
A good showing will make the decision to bench Mayfly after he falls apart easier.
Trask will probably be the starter after the bye.
June 12th, 2023 at 10:20 am
bucsfaninOregon Says:
June 12th, 2023 at 9:32 am
Well, the UF fans have made their opinions known already. If Mayfield beats out Trask it will be a āstolenā QB competition.
Yep. And afterward, if Mayfield is the starter, the’ll be hoping for Mayfield to fall on his face, so their hero can get the job they feel he should have been gifted all along.
June 12th, 2023 at 10:36 am
Players like to win more than anything and this feel good social gathering is meaningless. Look for which QB not only performs better , but which QB will deliver the ball on target and on time knowing he is going to take one in the chops. Also look for which QB will willingly stick his nose in there to get the hard yards at the goal line. My money is on Trask to be willing to do whatever it takes to win and Mayfield not so much.
June 12th, 2023 at 11:16 am
Couldn’t care less who wins the “competition”.
Just perform and perform well. However I can’t imagine how Trask sitting and studying Tom Bradys every move for 2 yrs then not win the starting job when his number is finally called. If he can’t win the job then the 2nd rd draft pick was a complete wasted pick.
He should be dominating after studying behind Brady.
June 12th, 2023 at 11:21 am
To Joe Says: Why Joe! I am shocked! Shocked I tell you! That you would think I would think there is anā I love Bakerā propaganda campaign going on! Thou protesteth too much! I mentioned no names nor any particular articles, just that it had all the trappings of a media generated event , I mean Mayfield and two Bucs veterans show up at a high profile game , are seated with a great view of the field as a backdrop , the Bucs veterans quickly disappear from the video, ( strange that no one asks them for autographs,no?), then the camera that is taking the video just happens to be placed perfectly for great pictures , (how fortunate! Who woulda thunk it!), and then the kiddos coming up single file to get the autograph of their future hero! ( too bad they couldnāt get any pictures of Baker hugging puppies or kittens ) but I am sure it was all just one big coincidence after another , nothing staged there , no sir!
June 12th, 2023 at 11:25 am
LOL this is reaching comedic levels of cope and desperation.
Trask must be dominating the QB battle so far for Bake and his agent to try to work a PR campaign.
June 12th, 2023 at 11:30 am
Stormy if Baker wins the battle and balls out we’ll shut up. It’s all about winning.
If he struggles you’re damn right we’ll be calling for his benching LOUDLY.
Be prepared to eat crow like the rest of the blind homers wanting a 24.5 QBR and 170 YPG QB to be the guy.
Why have a cheap vet be in there if you’re going to lose games anyway? Might as well get your draftee reps and build for the future. We’re confident Trask will outplay Baker before it’s all said and done.
June 12th, 2023 at 11:37 am
That video is so STAGED. The camera is clearly on a tripod, zooming in and out and moving perfectly left and right, but without any of the “shake” you would get on a hand-held camera. It must have been quite the production getting that tripod past security and into the seats.
June 12th, 2023 at 11:47 am
Shankasorus:
Mayfield QBR for every season in the NFL:
51.2
54.4
65.5
40.9
24.5
Getting things right counts.
More important stat is passer rating than the made-up ESPN QBR that favors quarterbacks that run a very lot:
93.7
78.8
95.9
83.1
79.0
My guess is that Kyle Trask’s QBR will be lower than most quarterbacks because QBR over rates guys who run. It will be much for fair to look at Kyle Trask’s passer rating.
I haven’t seen enough of Trask as a pro to have an opinion on him either way. Did not want Baker necessarily here but if he is actually the better of two at moving the team down the field and the new OC feels that way, then the job should be his.
June 12th, 2023 at 12:07 pm
They say Mayfield has a knack for making bad decisions. Well, joining the Buccaneers is his grand masterpiece! Move over, Picasso, we’ve got a new artist of destruction.
Bowles and Baker, Baker and Bowles:
“Baker and Bowles, a B&B delight,
But their game plan? Oh, what a sight!
Baker throws interceptions with all his might,
While Bowles’ defense takes an early flight.”
June 12th, 2023 at 12:08 pm
Friday Night out with the boys or an Evening with a Hot Little Blonde?
Could there Trouble in Paradise?
Hope Baker makes better decisions on the field or his personal life doesn’t become a distraction for him. He may not mind relocating to 3 States in just over year but Bae may not. An Army Wife moves less.
June 12th, 2023 at 12:19 pm
Great article.
Just a quick bit of news.
It has been announced that the BUCS will finally wear the Creamsickles vs. the Detroit Lions.
First time since 2012.
June 12th, 2023 at 12:28 pm
Itās good to remember where We came from sometime!
June 12th, 2023 at 12:51 pm
Tampabaybucfan Says:
“Mayfield graciously taking selfies with Rays fans…”
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Silly fans. I would have gone straight to Wirfs, the possible Hall of Famer.
June 12th, 2023 at 1:11 pm
@geno711
You’re wrong. You keep mixing up Mayfield’s RTG with his QBR. ESPN shows Mayfield’s QBR (which benefits “mobile” quarterbacks) as being 24.5 in 2022 with the Panthers, and 24.5 again in 2023 with the Rams. Look it up … 24.5 and 24.5.
June 12th, 2023 at 1:26 pm
“Yes, Baker, it’s true, Aaron Rodgers is also going to public events in New York and meeting with fans. But Baker, I know Aaron Rodgers, and you’re no Aaron Rodgers.”
June 12th, 2023 at 1:30 pm
Just Leave Trask Alone Says:
June 12th, 2023 at 11:30 am
Stormy if Baker wins the battle and balls out weāll shut up. Itās all about winning.
If he struggles youāre damn right weāll be calling for his benching LOUDLY.
Be prepared to eat crow like the rest of the blind homers wanting a 24.5 QBR and 170 YPG QB to be the guy.
If Mayfield wins the job and stinks it up, I’ll be right there with you, calling for a change.
If Trask wins the job and stinks it up, would you honestly say the same thing? Or will you be making excuses and claiming (as some have) that he needs the whole year?
Whoever the starter is week 1, should be benched during the bye if they stink it up. Hold them to the same standard.
I honestly do not care who wins and I’ll support whoever. I don’t think some of the Cult of Kyle groupies can say the same.
Personally, I don’t have much hope that either one is the answer, and the Bucs long term starting QB isn’t on the team yet.
June 12th, 2023 at 1:30 pm
geno: QBR is for running QBs
Well except for Tom Brady who never ran and played half his career with a bad knee and had a career avg QBR 6 points higher than Baker’s best season.
June 12th, 2023 at 1:42 pm
After spending one day with the Rams, Mayfield entered the game and scored more TDās than Trask has scored in his entire NFL career. BTW Trask has a QBR of 1.6
For some reason the Trask Fanboyz always fail to mention his numbers.
June 12th, 2023 at 1:44 pm
Geno111 – QBR doesnāt overemphasize the ground game, it properly includes it. Remember that every play that doesnāt result in a pass attempt is still considered in QBR. For instance, sacks are counted with yards lost; also quarterback fumbles figure in, regardless of whether itās a quarterback run or a handoff to another runner.
Passer rating takes none of that into consideration.
Given that about 40-45 percent of all plays in the NFL on average are scored as running plays, and even more are scored as sacks, ignoring that much of the offense and the game is a very poor representation of what offenses actually do. The quarterback, or whoever takes the snap, is the only player who touches the ball on every play. Every play counts.
June 12th, 2023 at 2:22 pm
It’s chemistry-building. I’m in favor of it. Becoming friends with the guys assigned to protect you is smart.
For Baker, it won’t matter.
June 12th, 2023 at 2:22 pm
Baker went to a ton of Indians & Cavs games. He doesn’t need an agent to be Baker. Danny
June 12th, 2023 at 2:25 pm
If Mayfield is as good as he thinks he is, the Bucs should well this year.
June 12th, 2023 at 2:29 pm
*Bucs should do well this year*
My editor called in sick today.
June 12th, 2023 at 2:39 pm
Stormy Baker has had sufficient burn in time in the NFL, Trask has not – so the standard which they are both judged should be different.
4-6 games you should know what you’re going to get with Baker.
4-6 games with Trask you should expect to see your ROI begin to materialize on upward trending. Although you might see it earlier that that.
Really it’s the eye test. What do you see? A guy struggling or a guy building?
New OC, new QB we need to temper our expectations.
The problem I see is the Tampa fanbase is already salty over yet expectations in 2022. Now they went out and signed a guy who is a reclamation project now matter how you slice it. So it’s more than Trask/Gator fans being mad. It’s about how the team makes personnel decisions amid adversity. We have not seen Trask play outside 9 passes in the reg season, but
June 12th, 2023 at 2:45 pm
(Continued)
but we’re going to throw him in the dumpster even though we saw good things last preseason?
It’s frustrating. What’s worse is we know why – is a desperation move that scraps patience for mediocrity in order to try to save some coaching jobs.
I don’t want this org to plan for mediocrity. Take the chance with Trask. The ceiling is much higher. He’s a prototype. Let him cook out there.
Baker is a brash guy who talks a good game, but it hasn’t materialized into Ws in the NFL. This is his track record and thinking somehow Canales is going to change that fortune with scheme is aspirational. I keep feeling it’s a screwjob that we’re getting the hard sell on because men in that building don’t have the stones to take a chance on a younger QB.
June 12th, 2023 at 2:55 pm
Going to the Rays game with team-mates is cool, a nice gesture. But, I don’t think that means a starting position, with the Bucs.
I’m pretty sure, the Bucs coaches aren’t highly concerned about the Rays, when their own jobs are on the line.
June 12th, 2023 at 3:00 pm
I will admit: I liked all of Baker’s commercials. I think he’s a good actor.
Has he been acting like a good QB, all this time?
June 12th, 2023 at 3:03 pm
Great find, Joe. It kinda blew me away, too. I can hardly wait for Aug. 11 to see if anything has improved! GO BUCS!
June 12th, 2023 at 3:47 pm
Really rain? Stats on a guy who played 2 series of downs.
You know maybe the Chargers should have had a QB competition with Tyrod Taylor after Herbert was drafted – you know only in name only?
June 12th, 2023 at 4:02 pm
@Donāt tell me itās raining
You do know Trask was given only 2 series at the end of the last regular season game playing with not one offensive starter, right? Oh, you don’t? Didn’t think so.
June 12th, 2023 at 4:03 pm
Was it free ticket night at the Trop? Maybe the people thought the Lightning were playing there again like it was 1995, or hell a Tampa Bay Storm game. I can’t believe they have that many people there.
June 12th, 2023 at 4:34 pm
Fun fact: Rick Stroud lied about Trask’s ability to pickup the playbook.
June 12th, 2023 at 5:03 pm
I agree you canāt compare Traskās NFL numbers to Mayfieldās. So what would be a āfairā comparison? College career? Surely thatās a more fair comparison.
Mayfield played three years at OU and Trask played three years at Florida. Trask didnāt play a full season his first year, so weāll compare their Jr and Sr years.
Trask (Jr. Year)
Att: 354 Cmp: 237 Pct: 66.9
Rating: 156.1
Mayfield (Jr. Year)
Att: 358 Cmp: 254 Pct: 70.79
Rating: 196.4
Trask (Sr. Year)
Att: 437 Cmp: 301 Pct: 68.9
Rating: 180.0
Mayfield (Sr. Year)
Att: 404 Cmp: 285 Pct: 70.5
Rating: 198.9
So letās look at their career highlights and awards.
Trask
-Earl Campbell Tyler Rose Award (2020)
-Second Team All-SEC (2020)
-FBS Passing TD Leader (2020)
Mayfield
-Heisman Trophy (2017)
-Manning Award (2017)
-Maxwell Award (2017)
-Walter Camp Award (2017)
-Davie Oābrien Award (2017)
-Chic Harley Award (2017)
-AP College Player of the Year (2017)
-Sugar Bowl MVP (2017)
-Big 12 Offensive Player of the Year (2017)
-First Team All American (2017)
Thereās more but Iām tired of typing.
All Iām saying is letās compare apples to apples and quit saying Mayfield sucks and Trask is our future, when Trask hasnāt shown anything better than Mayfield. Iām not saying Mayfield is our savior but Iām hoping he will give us a winning season. And I see no reason to talk trash about him.
June 12th, 2023 at 5:07 pm
The streak will remain intact. Noone in our division got better, and it could be argued that every team has a quarterback question. If its all a push this season, I will go with Evans and Godwin as the difference. This season is for spite. Bowles isnt the only coach on the hot seat in the division, and his seat may not even be the hottest. Nawlins is likely in for a rebuild while paying the piper, I dont even know what is going on in Hotlanta, and Carolina’s new QB seems a bit to sleight to me. LFG!
June 12th, 2023 at 6:22 pm
Baker trying to win popularity coz no way in h%&L he win vrs Trask in the long run of a season! Bank that
June 12th, 2023 at 9:02 pm
Donāt tell me itās raining Says:
“No reason to talk trash about Baker. Trask hasn’t how anything and hope Baker give us winning season.”
Well, why not Baker is trash. You are the one trashing Trask without seeing him playing a meaningful game while hoping see the good version of Baker in his 6th year.
June 12th, 2023 at 10:57 pm
Don’t tell me. Baker Mayfield played in a conference that don’t play defense. Trask played in the SEC which means he played against waay harder competition. How did Baker Mayfield play against Georgia vs Kyle Trask against Alabama? How about Trask against Georgia vs Baker Mayfield against Georgia. This is Baker Mayfield 4th team in 6 years and y’all acting like Baker Mayfield has been good in the NFL. Baker Mayfield will start the season and I think everyone knew it when they snig him. The Glazers are trying to sale tickets as well. So I’m not surprised at all because I don’t believe the bucs will ever developed a quarterback they have failed every quarterback they drafted and that’s a fact. Love my bucs but the truth is the truth!!
June 12th, 2023 at 11:36 pm
shankasorous Says:
June 12th, 2023 at 1:11 pm
@geno711
Youāre wrong. You keep mixing up Mayfieldās RTG with his QBR. ESPN shows Mayfieldās QBR (which benefits āmobileā quarterbacks) as being 24.5 in 2022 with the Panthers, and 24.5 again in 2023 with the Rams. Look it up ā¦ 24.5 and 24.5.
You are such an idiot. Mayfield played 2022 with the Panthers and the Rams.
He did not play 2023 yet. There has been no 2023 season.
June 13th, 2023 at 12:01 am
Bucs with Brady as qb made the playoffs 3 straight year.
Bucs with a qb not named Brady have not won a playoff game in 17 years.
June 13th, 2023 at 1:07 am
Ok guys here is the plan…I feed you guys as much free BBQ as you want and you block great for me and not for Trask…OK?….Sweet!
June 13th, 2023 at 7:47 am
@Cian O’Malley
It’s called a typo. Mayfield had a 24.5 QBR in both 2021 and 2022. Look it up. Pointing out online typos is for those who lack intellect.
June 13th, 2023 at 4:25 pm
Oneilbuc, I agree the SEC is tough conference but I know OU played Auburn in the 2017 Sugar Bowl, when Mayfield was a Sr. And he led them to a 35-19 win against that SEC team. I know OU played Florida in the 2020 Cotton Bowl and spanked them 55-20. 20 points doesnāt seem like very much against a team that doesnāt play defense vs the greatest QB in the league. Iām pretty sure Trask was the QB that year. So thatās a head to head matchup between the team Mayfield played on, from a conference that doesnāt play defense and Kyle Trask and the Florida Gators. You would think a record setting QB in the best conference would bust 50 on a team from a no defense conference. But somehow it didnāt happen that way.