Bucs Bring In Zach Charbonnet
April 20th, 2023
UCLA RB Zach Charbonnet.
Just say “no.”
That’s the way Joe feels about any Chip Kelly offensive player. The UCLA coach has had fantastic success on the college level both at Oregon and UCLA.
But quick: Name a decent offensive player that Kelly coached in college that did jack in the NFL? Dennis Dixon? LaMichael James? Marcus Mariota? LOL
To be fair, Kelly did have a couple of running backs who enjoyed success in the NFL. Guys like former Bucs back LeGarrette Blount and former Stinking Panthers running back Jonathan Stewart.
But for all the stud offensive players Kelly has coached, they have been massive busts on the NFL level.
Could Zach Charbonnet be one of the rare exceptions to make a mark in the NFL? The UCLA running back was a guest at One Buc Palace yesterday for an official 30 visit.
Here’s what the Czar of the Playbook, Emory Hunt of CBS had to type about Charbonnet in his 2023 Football Gameplan Draft Guide.
Love the footwork for a bigger back. He always has them moving and it’s a big reason why he’s always falling forward. Rarely do you see him take a loss. Nice lateral agility and combined with his foot quickness, he’s able to negotiate himself down the field well. Trustworthy in all facets of offense. Doesn’t mind blocking for a runner or in pass pro. Really good in the latter aspect. Good natural running ability & inside runner. Will keep his shoulders square and burrow through an open gap.
Doesn’t sound like a guy who can attack the edge that well. Seems like he’s more of a power runner. Hey, a fullback!
Still, Joe is not sold on this Charbonnet. His running seems just OK. And given his coach’s rich history of producing NFL busts, Joe wouldn’t be itching to draft Charbonnet.
Dane Brugler of The Athletic believes Charbonnet is a second-day draft pick.
1⃣9⃣8⃣ Rush Yds
6⃣1⃣ Receiving Yds
3⃣ TDsZach Charbonnet led No. 12 @UCLAFootball to a 38-13 win vs. Stanford! Game highlights 🎥⤵️#Pac12FB | @Vegas pic.twitter.com/2ws0PuJOAy
— Pac-12 Conference (@pac12) October 30, 2022
April 20th, 2023 at 12:06 am
[ENOUGH! You keep throwing rocks at the dog, pretty soon the dog bites back! Come at Joe like that once more and it’s your last comment. Your decision! Joe has no issue giving people latitude and rope but even Joe has his limits. — Joe]
April 20th, 2023 at 12:33 am
I was going to ask a similar question, Joe. Name the last prominent ucla offensive player. Last one I can think of is Aikman and I was a wee lad back then. Maybe a flyer, but I don’t think he’ll buck the trend of Chip Kelly offensive players.
April 20th, 2023 at 12:35 am
“no”
April 20th, 2023 at 12:35 am
I’m just wondering what Chip Kelly has to do with the kid’s tape… I think that’s reasonable. If he has NFL measurables and the performance on tape to project to the NFL, isn’t that what matters? I’m not being unreasonable.
April 20th, 2023 at 12:40 am
Thank you Sasquatch.
That’s the way GMs should think. But it does make one wonder why a good coach like Chip Kelly has never developed any NFL players (except two running backs). It’s weird. Is his offense that foreign to the NFL.
April 20th, 2023 at 12:41 am
Caleb Benenoch. 🙂
(Or Ryan Nece. 🙂 )
April 20th, 2023 at 12:46 am
Here is what Bard told Joe:
April 20th, 2023 at 12:47 am
Luv this kid!
Zach Charbonnet is a beast
April 20th, 2023 at 12:53 am
If we opt for an offensive lineman in the 1st round, it’s highly likely that we’ll select another offensive player in the 2nd round. Especially considering our pressing needs in the defensive front and safety positions.
April 20th, 2023 at 1:19 am
Actually Zach Charbonnet’s running style, is very similar to that of LeGarrette Blount in its explosive and bruising nature.
However, where Charbonnet sets himself apart is with his exceptional ability as a receiver out of the backfield.
April 20th, 2023 at 1:20 am
He’s the exact same height/weight as White, but is slower and not as quick. Not sure why they’d want a guy like that, and the limited highlights above don’t show me much. If he was huge, like Derrick Henry I’d get it, but he’s not.
April 20th, 2023 at 1:55 am
His highlight tape is impressive.
April 20th, 2023 at 2:10 am
Ahh yes, Benenoch. Probably would have been good, but didn’t develop properly. I just remembered Kolton Miller for duh Raidahs. I guess there are some… Nece doesn’t count since he was a linebacker, but thanks for the answers Joe.
April 20th, 2023 at 2:21 am
Depends on the round. At the right price could be good but methinks the Bucs have more pressing needs at other positions this year. Also the team really needs to find out what they have in R. White, Vaughn and Edmunds who could collectively turn out to be just fine.
April 20th, 2023 at 2:29 am
This roster does not need another slow-footed, takes-forever-to-gather-speed, non-explosive, non-quick non-beast who is big but isn’t really a power back. It does need another Lenny or another Rachaad.
No.
But I wouldn’t be surprised if they target the least impressive backs, and reach for them too high.
April 20th, 2023 at 3:23 am
Joe – I asked ChatGPT the same question about why Chip Kelly can’t develop quality NFL players, but asked it to explain it to me in the form of a 1980s rap song.
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Yo, listen up, let me tell you ’bout a coach named Chip,
He had a big dream, but couldn’t quite make the trip.
He coached in Philly, then in San Fran town,
But when it came to developing players, he just couldn’t hold it down.
His offense was fast-paced, like a turbocharged machine,
But for developing players, it was like a nightmare dream.
He valued speed and athleticism, but overlooked other traits,
Like leadership, work ethic, and mental states.
His reliance on free agents and trades was also a factor,
As he struggled to develop players like an overburdened tractor.
He’d bring in new faces, but they’d struggle to adapt,
To his system and style, and they’d soon be trapped.
So in the end, Chip Kelly’s legacy was mixed,
He had some successes, but his flaws couldn’t be fixed.
Maybe he needed to slow down and take it in stride,
Or maybe he just wasn’t cut out for the NFL ride.
April 20th, 2023 at 3:56 am
Zach Charbonnet – Height: 6’0” | Weight: 214 | 40 Time: 4.53 seconds
Mohamed Ibrahim – Height: 5’10 | Weight: 210 | 40 Time: 4.52 seconds
Comparable Height | Weight | 40 time’s
1. Nick Chubb -Height: 5’11” | Weight: 227 lbs. | 4.52 seconds
2. Derrick Henry – Height: 6’3” | Weight: 247 | 40 Time: 4.54 seconds
3. DeAngelo Williams – Height: 5’9” | Weight: 215 | 40 Time: 4.53 seconds
4. Duce Staley – Height: 5’11 | Weight: 242 | 40 Time: 4.53 seconds
5. Alvin Kamara – Height: 5’10 | Weight: 215 | 40 Time: 4.56 seconds
6. Ricky Williams – Height: 5’10” | Weight:2 30 | 40 Time: 4.56 seconds
7. Ahmad Bradshaw -Height: 5’10” | Weight: 203 | 40 Time: 4.55 seconds
8. Brandon Jacobs – Height: 6’4” | Weight: 264 | 40 Time: 4.56 seconds
9. Brian Westbrook – Height: 5’10 | Weight: 203 | 40 Time: 4.57 seconds
10. Le’Veon Bell – Height: 6’1” | Weight: 225 | 40 Time: 4.60 seconds
12. LeSean McCoy – Height: 5’11” | Weight: 210 | 40 Time: 4.50 seconds
13. Arian Foster – Height: 6’1” | Weight: 227 | 40 Time: 4.68 seconds
14. Mike Anderson – Height: 6’0” | Weight: 235 | 40 Time: 4.63 seconds
April 20th, 2023 at 3:58 am
Mohamed Ibrahim – Height: 5’9
April 20th, 2023 at 4:08 am
The Seattle Seahawks and the UCLA Bruins both utilize a wide zone scheme.
A wide zone scheme is a type of offensive scheme that emphasizes creating space for the running back to make cuts and find open lanes.
Because both Seattle and UCLA use this system, it would be beneficial to pick up a running back that has had success in this type of offense.
Running backs that have had success in a wide zone scheme often have good vision, patience, and agility, which are all necessary traits to properly navigate the scheme.
By selecting a running back that has excelled in this system, the Bucs can ensure that they have a player that is already familiar with the scheme and can help maximize the system’s potential.
April 20th, 2023 at 4:26 am
Rod
Don’t worry… those meds will kick in in a couple of weeks.
🙂
April 20th, 2023 at 4:53 am
You said it Garro
April 20th, 2023 at 5:05 am
Zach Charbonnet (22yrs)
2 Year Career Totals @UCLA
• Rushing Attempts: 398
• Rushing Yards: 2,511
• Rushing Touch Downs: 27
• Receptions: 61
• Receiving Yards: 518
• Rumbles: 1 <—??
• Yards After Contact: 1520
• Forced Missed Tackles: 122
April 20th, 2023 at 6:04 am
Oh no, one of my least favorite RB’s…
Izzy Akanibanda is the sleeper
April 20th, 2023 at 7:43 am
Someone will take him in the 2nd or 3rd round. He won’t be there for a late pick. Bucs have bigger needs for day 2. Deep running back class with good players available on day 3.
Pass due to greater needs.
April 20th, 2023 at 7:47 am
Pass!
April 20th, 2023 at 8:22 am
Mo. Day 3 or USFA.
April 20th, 2023 at 8:23 am
UDFA
April 20th, 2023 at 8:40 am
I’m fairly certain but not 100 he did have Lagarette Blount?
April 20th, 2023 at 9:13 am
“I’m fairly certain but not 100 he did have Lagarette Blount?”
In 2009 iirc, Chip Kelly had Blount, LeMichael James, & Kenjon Barner all at once at Oregon. That Oregon team was really fun to watch and that was the year Blount punched the kid from Boise State in the face post-game.
April 20th, 2023 at 9:59 am
Has JL ever drafted a skill player from any of the Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, South/North Carolina schools. Only Kyle Trask & Jameis and OJ Howard, For some reason, probably because he is a Midwest guy, he always reaches for west coast, some northern schools or Midwest guys.
April 20th, 2023 at 10:25 am
Bucs are turning over every stone. Nothing wrong with that.
April 20th, 2023 at 10:46 am
Absolute stud. I watch a lot of Pac 12 football. This is Jonathan Stewart 2.0. Grab him in a heartbeat.
April 20th, 2023 at 11:34 am
I thought he looked decent in the tape, he did fumble once… he looked like a cross between Earnest Graham and Blount. Obviously Blount is much bigger than him… but he has that same plodding low stepping style like Graham, has more power than his size would dictate, and catches the ball… while Blount had more straight ahead speed and ran with less body lean… when he was with the Bucs, anyways.
April 20th, 2023 at 12:30 pm
Probably a bigger fan of Charbonnet the athlete than I am Charbonnet the future Bucs RB. I’d rather a more explosive back with a little more wiggle, but I could see him being a plausible pick for us especially if it means a quicker pro transition playing in a run game that’d be an extension of what our offense will do.
April 20th, 2023 at 12:38 pm
Trenches.
April 20th, 2023 at 1:38 pm
Sky, if you like him I guess I’ll give him another look. Even the overrated Kelly is bound to cough up a good player by accident
April 20th, 2023 at 1:47 pm
Rod Munch, that was hilarious, but I thought it was set to mimic Gilligan’s Isle theme. Maybe that was the rappers goal.
April 20th, 2023 at 1:50 pm
The only rap song I’d ever heard mimic Gilligan’s Isle was Weird Al Yankivitch’s refrain in Omish Paradice.
April 21st, 2023 at 12:14 am
Way to go @Joe ! Finally putting the smackdown on these guys who think they know better than you and front office NFL personnel ! That was award winning 👏. Go Bucs and go Joe
April 21st, 2023 at 7:15 am
Obviously the Bucs are just trying to cover their bases and it will depend on how high they value a player and if they are still around when they feel like they could take that player off the board. They bring in several players every year but they can’t draft or wouldn’t draft every guy they bring in. Not real sure about the quality of off ball linebackers this year but if the Bucs take one in the first couple of rounds don’t be surprised. It will also tell you what they think about Devin “I’m bored” White, even if they don’t trade him this year.