NFC Suit: Baker Mayfield And Dave Canales “Solid Match”
March 24th, 2023
Front office type reacts.
Joe is trying to look at the Bucs’ new quarterback through a glass-half-full prism.
No, Baker Mayfield is not Tom Brady. Never will be. But at least Mayfield has shown he can play solid football on the NFL level. Consistency is the big issue.
So which Mayfield are the Bucs getting? The guy who looked like his career was toast with Carolina? Or the guy who demonstrated he ought to be starting in the league the way he played (briefly) in Los Angeles?
One NFC suit told NFL columnist Matt Lombardo of Heavy.com that the Bucs, with Dave Canales as offensive coordinator, are more likely getting the Mayfield that shined for the Rams.
… Mayfield showed in four starts with the Los Angeles Rams last season that with competent weapons around him, he can be a competent passer.
“I think it’s a really good fit for Baker,” an NFC personnel executive told Heavy. “Especially working with Dave Canales. Those two are a solid match.”
Mayfield completed 63.8% of his passes in a Rams uniform for 850 yards with 4 touchdowns to 2 interceptions. Landing in an offense with Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and emerging running back Rachaad White, Mayfield has the opportunity to audition to be a part of Tampa’s or 31 other teams’ future.
For those who missed the following, the reason for optimism about Mayfield working with Canales is the Sean McVay connection.
Mayfield looked like he belonged playing for McVay in Los Angeles. Canales, last season in Seattle, worked alongside Seahawks offensive coordinator Shane Waldron. From 2018-2020, Waldron was McVay’s passing game coordinator with the Rams.
So if Canales brings that McVay influence with him to One Buc Palace, this may be the perfect landing spot for Mayfield.
As Joe has typed, if Mayfield flames out, eh. The Bucs will just draft a quarterback next year.
Mayfield is very much a low-risk investment.
March 24th, 2023 at 3:53 am
Good point,.. and I’d have to say I’m comfortable with Baker Mayfield at QB.
March 24th, 2023 at 4:01 am
GIVE IT A REST!
Mayfield has a pathetic career QB rating.
March 24th, 2023 at 4:03 am
Oh and Mayfield isn’t going to “flame out” because he’s not even going to play.
March 24th, 2023 at 6:21 am
Trask Hugger, are you drinking already or is your post a leftover from an all nighter? Sober up. Your friends will appreciate it.
March 24th, 2023 at 6:22 am
Can y’all stop with all of this Mayfield nonsense and write columns about good players instead! 🙄
March 24th, 2023 at 7:29 am
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo is distressed……gone are the days of Heff Garcia….now Pablo’s Bucs have names like Baker, Blaine, Kyle, Cade, Cam…..where is Pablo’s hombre, Nacho?”
March 24th, 2023 at 7:39 am
Mark my words. If it’s a “honest” competition Trask will beat our mayfield
March 24th, 2023 at 7:57 am
“If it were a fair competition, Trask would beat out Mayfield.”
I think Gator/Trask fans were born with some sort of fetal alcohol syndrome. Or worse.
Mayfield was drafted number one for a reason, if we’re gnna base it on how someone looks in shorts and slinging the ball around then Mayfield wins 100 times out of 100. He is also 100 times more magnetic, guys will gravitate towards him. Nationally there will atleast be mild interest in Tampa as he moves the needle a lot more. Trask couldn’t even win a backup job. Stop the madeneas losers, and if or WHEN Tampa drafts a Herndon Hooker or Will Levis then it’s lights out. Time to let go
March 24th, 2023 at 8:03 am
If Mayfield tanks & Bowles is gone next year, Mayfield will be the MVP!
March 24th, 2023 at 8:05 am
Nobody knows how this year’s quarterback competition will play out, just as nobody knows the long term trajectory of any player will be at the beginning.
Mayfield just signed up for his sixth NFL season. At that very same point in his career, Tom Brady had never finished with more than a passer rating of greater 92.6. Mayfield surpassed that performance in two of his first five seasons.
It wasn’t until his 8th season in the league that TB-12 broke 100 in PR – where he hit his career peek of 117. But just the season before that, his seventh in the league, Brady threw at a PR of only 87.
It’s easy to look back at the totality of TB-12’s career and declare him the GOAT, but I can absolutely guarantee that nobody considered him the GOAT after his first five seasons in the league. What he was was lucky to be on extremely good Patriots teams with extremely strong defenses, a very strong running game, and an excellent offensive line that protected his immobile butt.
Ditto with Trask – anybody who claims to know how Trask will turn out is simply blowing smoke out his a*s.
March 24th, 2023 at 8:09 am
Same thing with Drew Brees. He was considered a failure during his first five years in the league with San Diego, who cut him. Then in his sixth season he went to the Saints and on to a first ballot Hall of Fame career, and the nemesis of our Bucs.
March 24th, 2023 at 8:09 am
LOL Mayfield performed well 1-3 with the Rams by the way it was really no pressure to perform the Rams season was over, I’m not hopeful!
March 24th, 2023 at 8:19 am
Mayfield 2-8 last season as a starter enough said.
March 24th, 2023 at 8:24 am
2-8 let me do the math 2-8 translates in a full season to 3.4-13.6 lets give Baker the benefit of the doubt and round up to 4-13.
March 24th, 2023 at 8:24 am
Duane, solid job giving real world scenarios with modern quarterback examples that we all know. I was thinking Brees too when reading your first post. As a closet dolphins fan, they are number two on my list behind our team of course, I remember well when Saban tried to get Brees from the chargers but the dolphins doctors deemed Culpeper a lesser injury risk. Brees was coming off a shoulder injury and Culpeper had a knee. Obviously it ended up being a franchise changing decision when the dolphins passed on Brees and the Saints grabbed him. Clearly we have no way to know how the two quarterbacks on our roster will write their stories moving forward.
March 24th, 2023 at 8:57 am
Last season, the Rams were as big a pile of suck as our Bucs were. No one under center was winning with either team. It’s a new year people. A lot of great things can happen if we nail this draft.
March 24th, 2023 at 9:00 am
Canales ha recent #1 and #2 draft picks at QB. 2 top recievers and a top draft pic RB to work with. A good veteran center and Wirfs to anchor the OL. His problem will be Bowles Game Planning and practice sessions. Add in Bowles blunders in game managing decisions mix it all up and out comes a loser.
March 24th, 2023 at 9:13 am
Steven007 Says:
March 24th, 2023 at 8:24 am
Clearly, we have no way to know how the two quarterbacks on our roster will write their stories moving forward.
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^^^^^^THIS!
There are so many factors that determine whether or not a QB will be successful or not. Even the top evaluators of talent in the NFL get it wrong resulting in disastrous picks in the draft.
And not all factors are even within the control of the QB. Neither Trask nor Mayfield can exert significant control over the quality of the Bucs running game. They can’t choose the o-linemen who will be protecting them or the targets they’ll have to throw to or the play-caller that will be calling plays for them. Just a single one of those factors can dramatically affect the ability of the QB to be successful.
This is the ultimate team sport. Regardless of whether Mayfield or Trask becomes the starter the odds of either of them having a successful season go way down if the Bucs can’t quickly rebuild the o-line to an acceptable level and establish a halfway decent running game.
March 24th, 2023 at 9:48 am
mAyFiElD wAz 2-8 HeR dErRrR. Such a weird stance considering the many other tangible variables around wins and losses, ESPECIALLY when trask literally can’t even present a cogent argument because he can’t even when a backup job of *checks notes* BLAINE GABBERT
March 24th, 2023 at 10:43 am
Btw. Tracks senior stats are identical to mayfield. Trask runner up for heisman
Led the league in tds( in the sec) and yet you people feel he can’t play😂😂😂
You probably were happy with JW also😂😂😬
March 24th, 2023 at 11:12 am
LMAO here. Me and my ex-wife were the solid match when the birds were chirping, and cupid was shooting his arrows. Then when I got to court, I had to hide behind my attys shield.
March 24th, 2023 at 11:51 am
Two weeks ago Canales and Trask were a perfect match.
Making adjustments for the QB is what a real OC should do, but the team has a couple of flat spots that might make the start of the season a better fit for Trask or Mayfield.
I don’t know enough about Canales game to say who, what, or where anything will be.
March 24th, 2023 at 12:13 pm
The fanbois are screaming “We know Trask is better, because we fanbois haven’t seen him on the field with ‘the ones’ yet. So our blind faith is the perfect basis to know that Trask is better.”
But alas, fanbois, the Trask Suppression Conspiracy is thick at One Buc Place, they hate Trask who is and will a.ways be treated unfairly. Seeing him every day for two years is no way to evaluate a quarterback. Now the excuse will be “new offense to learn,” and the conspiracy holds that Trask learns at the speed of smell, NOT TRUE! He has college stats! And that guarantees his greatness.
Really and truly.
March 24th, 2023 at 12:21 pm
As I have stated before…
Baker played 5 games for the Rams.
850 / 5 = 170 for those of you who have a difficult time with math.
Look at the game vs the Chargers lol – he completed 11 passes for 111 yards. Rams did run for 166 yards for a total of 277 yards of offense, but they lost 31-10.
Popgun check down charlie QB. This will be the Bucs offense next year.
March 24th, 2023 at 12:27 pm
I want to be BAKERIZED!!!
March 24th, 2023 at 2:59 pm
Popgun scheme. Popgun QB.
Perfect match.
March 24th, 2023 at 3:27 pm
Trask will beat out Mayfield for the starting job. Keep in mind that Mayfield has to be considerably better than Trask to start.
March 25th, 2023 at 4:00 pm
Goatformer. You say college stats don’t mean nothing but the truth of the matter is they do . Every quarterback that’s coming out of the draft came from college and the only thing teams are looking at mostly is their stats because that’s the only thing you have to go by . I don’t think people are saying Kyle Trask is great because we really don’t know if he’s good or not. But you talk as if it’s a guarantee he’s going to be bad . All you have is your opinion your opinion is not a fact. Just like some one can say he’s going to be great that’s their opinion they can’t guarantee that either. No one knows what Trask is going to be because know one even Joe has seen him with the starters. But what do know and have seen with Baker Mayfield is that he sucks . But Trask no one knows just like we know if Caleb Williams or Drake May are going to be good . It’s about waiting and see what they can do just like the quarterbacks that’s coming out in this draft. I remember when Sam Donald and Josh Rosen and Baker Mayfield were can’t misses in the draft. But Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson were going to be busts in the NFL. They were actually saying Lamar Jackson should be a receiver and he later became the MVP of the league. So what if Trask is good?? But now I really believe you hope he fail and that’s the true definition of haten!! You call me a Brady hater because I didn’t make excuses for him or I gave credit to the team and not just Brady. But I get it you trying really hard to impress Joe so you agree with everything he says. I get where you come from now.