Does Jadeveon Clowney Have Anything Left?
March 31st, 2023
Back in his prime.
Joe isn’t out of line suggesting it may be time for Joe Tryon-Shoyinka to demonstrate why the Bucs drafted him in the first round.
Bucs sacks king Shaq Barrett is coming off a blown Achilles at 30. That’s not a good combo. As a result, Joe is not expecting much from one of the best Bucs’ warriors in recent years.
After that, the Bucs have nothing coming off the edge unless JTS has the light bulb above his head light up. JTS had the same results in his second season as he did in his first: four sacks. That’s not enough, not even close.
How badly are the Bucs in need of sacks from their outside linebackers? Matt Lombardo of Heavy.com thinks the Bucs need to scrape the barrel for a guy who is about finished, free agent pass rusher Jadeveon Clowney.
Best fits: Seattle Seahawks, Chicago Bears, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
If Jadeveon Clowney could stay on the field, there’s little doubt that he would be one of the game’s most disruptive and productive front-seven defenders. He just hasn’t played a full season since 2017.
In 2022, Clowney produced 2.0 sacks in 12 games for the Cleveland Browns, one year removed from 9.0 sacks during the 2021 campaign.
Clowney brings a unique blend of explosive speed, strength and power that makes him difficult to keep out of the backfield, and out of the quarterback’s face. Because Clowney is still available this late into free agency, combined with his lengthy injury history, he might be able to be had for a team-friendly deal, especially for a defense looking to add a rotational edge rusher with upside.
You know if the Bucs bring in a guy who can’t stay on the field, they are desperate. And yeah, Joe thinks the Bucs may be that desperate for sack production from the outside linebacker position. Bowles told the Ira Kaufman Podcast that he needs 8 sacks from an edge rusher.
Clowney, 30, has only played in more than 10 games in a season once in the past three years. That was also the only time since 2018 that Clowney had close to 10 sacks in a season (he had nine in 14 games playing opposite Myles Garrett in 2020).
So the only time Clowney had a decent season in the past four years was when he played on the same line as perhaps the best pass rusher in the game.
The Bucs don’t have a bookend for him like that.
March 31st, 2023 at 11:10 am
As much as we need some help at Edge……I just don’t like signing these older players……..unless he’s really cheap….let’s pass.
March 31st, 2023 at 11:11 am
Worth a flyer…Keep Tryon and Slogan Hall are more likely to emerge as the next Milli Vanilli/boy band duet.
March 31st, 2023 at 11:14 am
Even if he could be signed for vet minimum, do we really want to keep a roster spot for someone who may only be available half the games?
March 31st, 2023 at 11:20 am
he had his greatest play at ray jay
March 31st, 2023 at 11:20 am
Have we learned anything from bringing in oft-injured veteran players?!
…”But, when he is in the game”…ENOUGH already!
Best ability=availability! I’d rather have a journeyman that can stay on the field. It’s not like you need that much to be an improvement over JTS.
That said, JTS you sir are on the clock! Produce now!
March 31st, 2023 at 11:22 am
Carl Nassib > J. Clown…
March 31st, 2023 at 11:25 am
No, he’s like the Diva White of d-line. All potential, underachiever.
March 31st, 2023 at 11:28 am
Cam Gill is gonna blow up!
March 31st, 2023 at 11:30 am
I really like cam gill as well.
March 31st, 2023 at 11:32 am
Please God No. He’s lazy and he always talking about wanting 20 mil a year. We good, we don’t need him.
March 31st, 2023 at 11:34 am
Perhaps, as a rotational back up, the lower snap count might help him to last a few more games into the season. If he’ll accept a back up position, at back up pay scales, it might be worth considering.
March 31st, 2023 at 11:35 am
Nope, this would be like repeating the Akiem Hicks/Julio Jones signing to the effect that often injured over a long enough time means occasionally available. I’d prefer drafting a prospect to add to the rotation, but if a guy like Leonard Floyd is still having looking for work post-draft I’d consider him over Clowney all day.
March 31st, 2023 at 11:37 am
No
March 31st, 2023 at 11:41 am
JPP is available, forget Clowney, I don’t believe he has ever been able to stay healthy for an entire season. bring JPP back. JPP still an awesome player, he could still rush the QB. JPP gets hurt too but JPP is tough and plays through injuries. Unlike Clowney, who constantly has knees injuries and doesn’t play enough games during season. Plus the defense could use JPP’s leadership and locker room presence right and he knows the system and much of the players on team. A USF Alumni as well. Come Jason L bring JPP back.
March 31st, 2023 at 11:45 am
Clowney has always been a player with tremendous talent but for whatever the reason, wasn’t unable to reach his true potential. Maybe that has something to with his work ethic. If the price is right Bucs should definitely sign him.
March 31st, 2023 at 11:51 am
would be a bad sign, the dude loves the yayo. He’s in love with the coco.
March 31st, 2023 at 11:55 am
YucBall, he would fit right in with that south Tampa diet fad then
March 31st, 2023 at 11:56 am
Locker room cancer.
March 31st, 2023 at 12:07 pm
Clowney = Hicks
March 31st, 2023 at 12:12 pm
Most of his hype was because of one massive hit in college against Michigan, little above average player back then and not much more in the NFL.
March 31st, 2023 at 12:24 pm
Only if we can get him on the cheap. He is quite long in the tooth. Not sure what he’s got left if anything. Better to draft a DE.
March 31st, 2023 at 12:32 pm
Absolute waste of a roster spot
March 31st, 2023 at 12:36 pm
Goatfarmer Says:
March 31st, 2023 at 11:25 am
No, he’s like the Diva White of d-line. All potential, underachiever.
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White has literally been an ALL-PRO already. Unlike the pro-bowl, being an ALL-PRO literally means you’re the best of the best.
Wow, you anti-White cupcakes are mentally ill when it comes to home.
March 31st, 2023 at 12:36 pm
JTS is just another in a long line of Jason Leitht busts. JL has to go.
March 31st, 2023 at 12:38 pm
The guy had mico fracture knee surgery, what his rookie year? Something like that. Hard pass. I think he’s a dog too. The last thing this D needs is a guy who plays when he wants to. He was drafted so high because of one college highlight. These GMs need to look more at motor and drive, as opposed to pure athletic ability.
March 31st, 2023 at 12:46 pm
Pass.
College stud. Never did much in the NFL. Too injury prone.
March 31st, 2023 at 12:51 pm
Trade Devin White.
And no to Clowney
March 31st, 2023 at 1:13 pm
Likely better to see what the draft yields before kicking the tires. If they were one piece away on defense, it would be worth looking into, but ultimately he would be taking snaps away from they players they are looking to develop while also eating the little cap space we need. Still expecting a Mike Evans extension/restructure for more cap relief after the draft.
March 31st, 2023 at 1:25 pm
Rod – Diva has never been all pro. He made a Pro bowl – big difference. He’s got all the talent to be all pro but neither the brain nor the coaching to do it.
March 31st, 2023 at 1:31 pm
Not worth the roster spot. He doesn’t play special teams, he’s never healthy, and even when healthy he has never played close to his potential. That a big fat NO.
BTW… Joe, you know nothing about Achilles injuries, Terrell Suggs and Brent Grimes both tore theirs into their 30’s and both were back in six months and as good as ever. I had mine cut and reattached in Dec 2019. I was determined to be cleared for sports in six months like Suggs, Grimes, and Bowers… I was cleared in five months. At six months I was 100+%. If a person has a work ethic and trains smart, an Achilles injury isn’t the end anymore. Barrett will be back and as good as ever… how good he has ever been is the bigger mystery. Is he more of a 19.5 sack guy we once saw or the 9 sack guy he has been most of his career? The injury won’t be a factor. Who he really is as a player will be.
March 31st, 2023 at 2:09 pm
Clowney….perfect for Bowles Show.
March 31st, 2023 at 2:27 pm
We need someone able to play, not to be on IR. An ineffective player can lead to injuries to others. We need a healthy team to win.
March 31st, 2023 at 2:40 pm
Best ability = availAbility per Parcells
We don’t need another Whirlpool Warrior like Julio, Akeem Hicks
March 31st, 2023 at 2:56 pm
I saw the article posted and thought “Jadeveon Clowney? You gotta be kidding me”… after reading, I’m like, well maybe, but ONLY if he’ll play for the veteran minimum.
He doesn’t make us younger, his availability is an issue, so he doesn’t really fit the direction we’re going. His roster spot would better be spent on a younger player with a future, or a dependable veteran who gives you a little better ROI.
March 31st, 2023 at 2:59 pm
Earnest Graham says hi.
March 31st, 2023 at 3:44 pm
i’m not a big fan of this guy…he was always a little overrated…pretty good player, but i’d pass at this point…
we are going to somehow have to get a couple d-linemen in here that overachieve this year…
we generally have a couple underachievers…but this is the year to somehow someway get a couple guys to overachieve…
not saying you need a 19 sack shaq type season, but if nelson can get 8, and joe sho blows up and gets 12, while shaq bounces back with say 8, and you pencil in white and vita for 10 between them, and a surprise guy like cam gill or a rook gets 4-5 we’d be good…but right there, that’s a lot of overachievement imho…
#OverAchievementGoals
March 31st, 2023 at 3:46 pm
there are degrees to achilles tear, that’s why it has a rangy return scenario
March 31st, 2023 at 3:47 pm
think high ankle sprain vs. reg ankle sprain
March 31st, 2023 at 5:38 pm
The guy has a knee issue since he was drafted if I recall. Guy literally has had no motivation since he was picked 1st overall. I believe he was a combine freak and had a hyped strip sack in the outback bowl after his team got shafted by the refs. Guys a bust. I say not worth it.
March 31st, 2023 at 6:22 pm
If healthy and hungry I would kick the tires
March 31st, 2023 at 6:23 pm
Goatfarmer Says:
March 31st, 2023 at 1:25 pm
Rod – Diva has never been all pro.
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2020 ALL PRO team, from NFL.com
Linebackers: Devin White, Tampa Bay; Demario Davis, New Orleans; Lavonte David, Tampa Bay, and Roquan Smith, Chicago
March 31st, 2023 at 6:35 pm
Vet minimum with a prove it contract. Still needs Hicks back.
March 31st, 2023 at 6:42 pm
Draft an Edge. Clowney is a known quitter.
March 31st, 2023 at 6:45 pm
I remember they had to drill holes in his kneecaps and they injected stem cells. I don’t recall the name of the procedure. He was never the same after that.
March 31st, 2023 at 9:40 pm
Sure! It’s not my money
March 31st, 2023 at 9:49 pm
If it works, I’m all in favor of it. 🙂
March 31st, 2023 at 11:28 pm
OK Rod- 2nd team all pro by some. In 2020. This is 2023. I’ve acknowledged his 2020 finish was what we want. That guy has disappeared in favor of a headless chicken for the last two years .
Regression in Bloweszo ball. Best thing for him is to get a coach who knows how to get through to him.
March 31st, 2023 at 11:29 pm
Josh Freeman had a good season in 2010.
April 1st, 2023 at 11:18 pm
Trent Dilfer had kind of a good season in 1997.
Broderick Thomas had a good season in 1991.
April 2nd, 2023 at 10:18 pm
I’d rather have JPP back than clown e .. At least JPP gives it his all for 60 minutes and plays through injuries. Go Bucs
April 3rd, 2023 at 2:34 am
Bring him in! What do we have to lose? Bonus if JTS finally has that light bulb moment.