Will Tom Brady Influence The Bucs’ Quarterback Decision?
February 1st, 2023For the past three years, Bucs officials openly said they sought input from Tom Brady when it came to many personnel decisions.
“Why wouldn’t you?” would be a typical reaction from a Bucs official when asked about it.
Brady likely made some great calls in that area, as well as some clunkers. But this has Joe thinking that the Bucs would/should(?) turn to Brady again for his thoughts on their next move at quarterback.
Brady has spent two years around Kyle Trask. Certainly he has a thoughtful and educated opinion on his potential. And then there are available veterans around the NFL.
Considering multiple reports now claim Brady was either playing for the Bucs this season or retiring, as in no other teams were in play, it’s somewhat obvious that Brady left on great terms with the Bucs and cared deeply for the organization. So Joe would trust Brady when it comes to his take on what QBs around the league are a potential mesh with the Bucs’ top weapons like Chris Godwin, Mike Evans and Leonard Fournette, among other players.
It is said The Brady Effect will linger for years at One Buc Palace. That could be taken to a new level if Licht leans on Brady for his QB evaluation.
February 1st, 2023 at 12:08 pm
No, Brady has limited time to watch college ball as a pro QB so Licht should keep trusting the scouting department and the people in the front office who are expert decision makers on personnel matters.
February 1st, 2023 at 12:12 pm
I’d be more curious about what our defensive guys think, like if they look at who’s available, who do they say “That guy scares me”.
(crickets??)
February 1st, 2023 at 12:14 pm
We don’t need Tom Brady’s opinion on what QB’s we should get because that’s the OC’s job to select the best QB to fit his scheme. We need a complete rebuild, get rid of everyone for draft picks and salary cap space. Todd Bowels is a dead man walking
February 1st, 2023 at 12:14 pm
Bucs haven’t signed an OC yet…Would think the OC input may be more valuable than Tom’s at this point.
February 1st, 2023 at 12:17 pm
Brady is GONE, he has retired. He probably is going to concentrate on his new Broadcasting Career.
We have a scouting department to make these decisions, plus we have a Quarterback we need to see play in games.
February 1st, 2023 at 12:19 pm
I think Brady truly loved his time In TB. I wouldn’t be surprised to see us become a juggernaut with a new franchise QB
February 1st, 2023 at 12:21 pm
Brady could give advise on Kyle Trask and other NFL Quarterbacks. He does care for the players on the Bucs and if the Bucs call he would probably give his opinion. Also, I sure the Glazers will put him in the ring of honor next year.
February 1st, 2023 at 12:22 pm
Brady for OC!
February 1st, 2023 at 12:22 pm
Well it was a great ride. Back to being one of those miserable teams without a QB.
February 1st, 2023 at 12:22 pm
I think if Jason Licht confides in him he will use Brady’s knowledge of his position to craft a plan concerning our QB’s going forward. After all he does possess first hand knowledge of Trask and his potential going forward. Throwing the Gator vs. Nole BS out the window it would be interesting to see what Trask has learned sitting behind Brady for 3 seasons. Wasn’t that supposed to be the plan? I just hope if the Bucs do give Trask his shot they treat it as if Brady will continue to play and not throw him to wolves with a weak supporting cast.
February 1st, 2023 at 12:22 pm
Why do you continue to think that Licht knows what he is doing? Did you read the Yahoo Sports article regarding the gold standard on drafting and what running a successful and strategic minded team looks like – aka Kansas City. How many picks did we waste on kickers? When was the last good draft class from Licht? 2020? How about before that? Kansas City and even San Fran are built for the long haul. Look where we are now! Get off the Licht love fest and start asking the tough questions.
February 1st, 2023 at 12:24 pm
Influence?
If you mean watching the type of QB’s in the post season and their profiles and the type of offense they they all play,
Yes Tommy Pocketpasser is YA Title generation
Mobile strong arm QB’s are what the game, it’s rules and fantasy football is interested
February 1st, 2023 at 12:26 pm
I mean, why even have a General Manager and coaches and scouts? Just ask Brady. I’m not sure why they haven’t asked Brady to have a talk with Vlad Putin about ending this mess between Russia and Ukraine.
I’m sure if the ask him he’ll give his opinion, but there are people on staff who’s job it is to make these decisions. Brady’s opinion should not influence the final decision.
Deep breathe, Joe. You’re over thinking this.
February 1st, 2023 at 12:29 pm
“It is said The Brady Effect will linger for years at One Buc Palace.”
It will linger for decades here because Joe can’t let go of Tom.
February 1st, 2023 at 12:29 pm
A few teams out there without a top 12 passer that have been consistently good/decent over the past few years Steelers, 49ers, Titans & Ravens.
These teams all have great coaching and amazing run games. Can the Bucs change to something similar?
Thats the only way I see them being competitive the next year or 2 tbh….
February 1st, 2023 at 12:36 pm
3-13
February 1st, 2023 at 12:36 pm
Beano, name a more influential member of the Bucs, in their history, than Tom Brady. That’s why he continues to be written about.
February 1st, 2023 at 12:37 pm
I am still hopeful he buys into the Team. That would ensure his input. The return is probably decent, and it’s more safe than crypto.
February 1st, 2023 at 12:42 pm
Destinjohnny – so are you assuming the players all go on strike for 1 game?
February 1st, 2023 at 12:44 pm
The Brady effect is already in the past. Toad’s flat, uninspired and confused team is a joke and depending on who the new OC is, wins no more than 5 games in 2023.
Led by another historically awful defense that will make Mike Smith and Lovie Smith look good.
Brady was only a Buc for three years. Cultures aren’t built on that. Cultures are built on sustained success over periods of continuity. The Steelers have a culture. The Chiefs have a culture. The Bucs culture is one of losing and quitting. Even Brady can’t deodorize all the stank.
February 1st, 2023 at 12:44 pm
The help we need from Brady is delaying $24M of the $35M we owe him in dead cap space dollars until next season… That will cut our over the cap money to @ $30M.
Bringing back LVD will cut it down to @ $22M…
A few restructures (5-6) and we are open for business.
February 1st, 2023 at 12:49 pm
Let the Blane Gabbert era begin, super bowl here we come
February 1st, 2023 at 12:50 pm
Let the Blane Gabbert era begin, super bowl here we come, yes I am being sarcastic
February 1st, 2023 at 12:51 pm
Only hope is by some miracle, Toad is fired and the new staff and OC give Tom enough of a lift that he unretires again.
Trashk , if it’s really him, will make this fan base pine for Trent Dilfer. Wish for Mike Rae. Crave Chris Chandler. Kyle Trashk together with Toad the Bowels will only be good for dark comedy as we enter the new decades long dark era.
February 1st, 2023 at 12:52 pm
At this point they have to know who trask is, he is going to be a backup in this league we have to be honest that seems likely so keep him, draft a quarterback then go trade for carr or someone like that. Toilet Bowles can’t afford to have another season like last year
February 1st, 2023 at 12:54 pm
Man, the negativity on this site has swelled to an unbelievable volume! Yeah, we had Brady and I loved every minute of it… even in a “failed year” we went to the playoffs, which for those who are only here since 2020, is not an annual tradition.
So yeah, now we DON’T have brady, and I will continue to love every minute of being a lifelong buc fan! Why wish doom and gloom?? WE HAVE NO IDEA what is going to happen, Bowles or no Bowles… yeah we have to get a QB, so do other teams. Yeah we have to restructure contracts, sign players, cut players, etc… THAT IS THE BUSINESS!
Maybe it’s just me, but man the negative nancy syndrome is old.
February 1st, 2023 at 12:54 pm
This team wasn’t going anywhere with or without him next year anyway why delay the enviable blow it up get young
February 1st, 2023 at 12:57 pm
Brady is ready to start collecting those paychecks from FOX
February 1st, 2023 at 12:57 pm
With today’s announcement are we officially back to the Den of Depression? Or wait and see if Bowles makes it worse?
February 1st, 2023 at 1:04 pm
Many of the greats are bad talent evaluator’s. Look at Jordan. Nope, we’re in a world of hurt anyway.
February 1st, 2023 at 1:05 pm
Coach Stuck in the Past will want a guy who can hand off a lot, and throw 5 yard passes with accuracy. It’s the return of the Run, Run, Pass, Punt era.
February 1st, 2023 at 1:10 pm
Kaepernick is still unsigned
February 1st, 2023 at 1:10 pm
Cut, restructure, or trade some of the high end contracts on this team (smith, barrett, Evans, Gage, etc… and rebuild. The OL and DL need to be rebuilt.
February 1st, 2023 at 1:14 pm
Arn, it should be renamed to Palace Despair. There’s little reason for optimism IMO. Go draft a QB in every round. They’re bound to hit on one, lol
February 1st, 2023 at 1:15 pm
If this question has already been answered, forgive me. Missed it.
Does anyone know the cap hit implications of Tom retiring? Is it helpful to us?
February 1st, 2023 at 1:17 pm
Thanks Todd Bowles and Byron Leftwich, you idiots were so bad at your job, you forced the greatest of all-time, who still had plenty left in his tank, to retire. Good job, losers.
February 1st, 2023 at 1:18 pm
Found the answer to my question above:
Tom Brady’s Wednesday morning retirement announcement means the Buccaneers will definitely be searching for a new starting quarterback in 2023. That retirement also could give the Bucs some more room to maneuver in that effort and any other attempts to sign or re-sign free agents.
Due to the automatically voiding seasons on the end of Brady’s contract, the Buccaneers were due to absorb a roughly $35 million “dead cap” hit on their salary cap in 2023 had he continued playing this season, whether in Tampa or elsewhere. The Bucs still must account for that hit, but if he is designated as a post-June 1 retirement it can be spread out over the 2023 and 2024 seasons. Brady’s dead cap hit in that scenario would be roughly $11 million this year and roughly $24 million in 2024.
According to Spotrac, the Buccaneers are currently projected at nearly $56 million over the cap in 2023. They must become compliant with the recently-finalized cap figure of $224.8 million by March 15.
February 1st, 2023 at 1:19 pm
I bet Brady will do the bucs a solid if they want. He could sign a one year deal, then be cut post June one. That would spread the cap hit. Please don’t file the retirement paperwork Tom.
February 1st, 2023 at 1:19 pm
I would think, Bucs need to land their next OC to know what kind of QB might be desired.
Just my thought, on the strategic order of things.
February 1st, 2023 at 1:19 pm
Den of Depression is too cheerful of a name for the Yucs home stadium.
And darengibo — not sure how long you’ve been a Yucs fan. The Yucs have been in the league 47 years. In that time, there have been 15 winning seasons. Fifteen. FIFTEEN. Out of FORTY SEVEN. Not even 33%. 31.9%, actually.
1979. 1981, 1982, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2016, 2020, 2021.
So when you wonder about negativity from the fan base, look no further than the stank that this team has been since its inception. And now we haszn Toad’s Bowels, who is perfect for a team like the Yucs, as he has one winning season in five tries for a big 20% success rate.
It’s cute to be Mr. Happy and all.
Reality isn’t pretty.
February 1st, 2023 at 1:22 pm
Bucs should just Tank with Trask and take the full hit on the cap this year, that way it’s done with. No reason to spread out the dead cap over multiple years when we know the team is going to be awful. Short of trading for Rodgers, there isn’t much the Bucs can do to be competitive this year. Getting a loser QB like Derek Carr and pairing him with a loser coach like Todd Bowles would be a complete disaster. So just start the tear down and give the new coach in 2024 as much of a clean cap as possible to work with.
February 1st, 2023 at 1:22 pm
“Maybe it’s just me, but man the negative nancy syndrome is old.” No darengib, I agree. Sadly it has always been what garners clicks and posts.
February 1st, 2023 at 1:23 pm
The best talent evaluators were not great players. Some did not even play in the NFL, such as greats Bobby Beathard, Ron Wolf, etc.
February 1st, 2023 at 1:27 pm
GF, would you like a tranquilizer, lol. Yep, back to the bad old days. Many here are probably jumping for joy today. I can’t believe how some hated Brady so much, when he gave REAL BUCS FANS so much joy. I’m talking to you Oneilbuc and your ilk.
February 1st, 2023 at 1:27 pm
Goatfarmer Says:
So when you wonder about negativity from the fan base, look no further than the stank that this team has been since its inception.
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Well, until the 2021 season, the Bucs were the most losing franchise in ALL of professional sports.
“With 987 wins and 1,524 losses in their franchise history, the Wolves’ winning percentage sits at .39307, just behind the team who previously held the record, the Super Bowl champion Tampa Bay Buccaneers (.3932).”
There’s a reason long-time Bucs fans always expect the worst.
February 1st, 2023 at 1:28 pm
SufferingSince76,
Teams need to move on from their past. The Cowboys moved on from Staubach. The Packers moved on from Favre. The Patriots moved on from Brady. Etc.
Plus, Brady was a paid mercenary for 3 seasons. He was not a lifelong Buc.
February 1st, 2023 at 1:29 pm
Maybe it’s just me, but man the negative nancy syndrome is old.
Or maybe we have seen this show play out a dozen times before. Trust me…after seeing us talk about the next great HC, next great OC, next great QB, and next great turnaround season, over a dozen times, it does get old.
February 1st, 2023 at 1:30 pm
Redeemer — tranquilizer? I’m in need, brother!
Along with some good booze to wash it down. Can’t get drunk enough.
February 1st, 2023 at 1:35 pm
Hey Goatfarmer, I bet you are a wonderful party guest. I have been a Buccaneer fan since 1975 when we moved to St. Pete. I have seen it all, watched many games in the old sombrero been to every NFC South stadium except NO Multiple times. But there is always one thing that has never wavered, my optimism of the Buccaneers being a great team, year after year, decade after decade, win lose or draw I look for the positives. Yes in many seasons they were few and far between. But if you do not have positive thoughts about your team why again are you a fan? Because you’re a realist? That banter is held high. And realistically you could always choose a more successful team to support. Don’t let the Cannon door hit ya, on the way off the ship.
February 1st, 2023 at 1:37 pm
Rod Munch Says: “Bucs should just Tank with Trask”
There you go again. No factual basis whatsoever for you to say that. No, your admission earlier this season that you “hate all Gators” is not a factual basis. Nor is your silly oft-repeated comment that Trask throws “rainbows” a factual basis. It in fact goes entirely against what NFL.Com says in its scouting report on Trask:
“Trask clearly has the arm strength … and can deliver deep throws with outstanding touch.”
Stop being such an FSU homer. It’s embarrassing.
February 1st, 2023 at 1:38 pm
Tom is simply telling you simple “fans” hey this wasn’t just on Byron or Todd. I sucked this year too. I’m the goat but I’m old. He sees it now and let’s just be thankful! Lesson from pops. You’re welcome.
February 1st, 2023 at 1:40 pm
I’m a pessimist by nature. But, I have so much confidence in the Bucs, I’ve signed a 1 year extension for my “arm-chair expertise” from the comfort of my sofa.
I only have one clause, “I ain’t getting up early”
February 1st, 2023 at 1:53 pm
I don’t know what you ladies are arguing about as I only read my own posts, but if you’re a real Bucs fan, there is no way you’re NOT pessimistic by nature. You always EXPECT the worst, but hope for the best, and are shocked by success. Being doubtful doesn’t mean you’re hoping for bad things. Even, if like myself, you’re wanting a full rebuild and hoping the Bucs lose next year, it’s not done in a negative way, I’m hoping the Bucs lose in order to rebuild faster and be competitive sooner.
You women out there who are ruled by your emotions, who think positive thoughts mean anything, you’re idiots. Also, no one here is the GM so it literally doesn’t matter what anyone here thinks.
With that said, most of the negative Nancies on this site are not Bucs fans, they’re just trolls, real POS who will hopefully get a painful and fatal case of ebola.
February 1st, 2023 at 2:02 pm
I hope brady influences the bucs to trade d smith for a second or third and use that to trade up in the draft to pick a new right tackle. Put Wirfs at left. Draft a guard in second or third. Give trask a fighting shot at QB. Meanwhile you are getting rod of some of that cap overspending.
February 1st, 2023 at 2:05 pm
Rusty… nobody I know thinks this team is destined for oblivion or a string of never-ending losing seasons. We are talking about the next few years. And the choices being made. When Gruden arrived, I was positive about the next few years. When Arians came, I was positive about then next few years. I knew we had good talent in our prime, that was capable of being an exceptional team with a few breaks. Nobody is saying that it is impossible for this team to turn it around and rebuild. We are saying we have seen what happens with a poor HC, a desperate OC hire with the hopes they are a diamond in the rough, and trying to retread a QB or thinking a guy totally unproven will be the next great QB, and an aging core of stars. Some of us think doing what other teams have done and that it best to make some moves now to start a solid rebuild. It isn’t about being a fan or not. It is about the team’s direction in the short term and the effects of it over the next few years. Sooner or later, we will likely rebuild. The question is, do we want to see the fruits of the rebuild in 2025, or do we want to see them in 2028 to 2030?
February 1st, 2023 at 2:17 pm
GF, don’t bother brother. As much as they won’t admit it, these fake bucs fans lamented evey single win, including the superbowl. Why is another question. I suggest problems in childhood. You Brady haters should be ashamed to call yourselves bucs fans. If it’s 6-11 you want, it’s coming soon.
February 1st, 2023 at 2:31 pm
Redeemer Says:
February 1st, 2023 at 2:17 pm
GF, don’t bother brother. As much as they won’t admit it, these fake bucs fans lamented evey single win, including the superbowl. Why is another question. I suggest problems in childhood. You Brady haters should be ashamed to call yourselves bucs fans. If it’s 6-11 you want, it’s coming soon.
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6-11?!? If this idiot Bowles can only win 8 games with Brady, 6 wins is quite a stretch. Nah, with Carr it’s like 5-12, and Trask it’s 4-13.
February 1st, 2023 at 3:17 pm
I’d be fine with hiring him as offensive coordinator.
February 1st, 2023 at 3:39 pm
Tom will be our new OC.
February 1st, 2023 at 3:48 pm
Chris apple roof cleaning our scouting department hasn’t as far as I know has yet to come up the a good young QB ever.
February 1st, 2023 at 5:38 pm
Ah, Rod, The resident JBF merchant of death and suicidal ideation is back in form. Listen, Even though you apparently don’t read other comments, I assume you’re being sarcastic, with your proposal above regarding tanking, that really only happens with a green light by the glazers. The current coach and GM certainly aren’t hoping for that. The coach in particular as he’s basically a dead man walking if he doesn’t win next season. GM not so much as he’s done enough to get a reprieve during a rebuild year if that’s what it comes to be. But anyways, the pipe dream of tanking which apparently Joe joins you in, probably won’t come to be in the form you hope unless the owners are fully behind it.
February 1st, 2023 at 5:50 pm
Rod Munch is a blowhard jerk or a troll. He sure isn’t a longtime Bucs fan. Plus, some of the yahoos on here need to do some reading up on Bucs history. Bucs were the NFL record holders in cellar dwelling until M. Glazer bought them and Tony Dungy was hired. That was back in the 1990s.
February 1st, 2023 at 7:05 pm
Ooh, Rhinot, you’re so bold! Congratulations on being optimistic regardless of the circumstances. Which is another term for ignorance, bordering on stupidity. But, you go! You and your rusty horn cheer like crazy at the 34-3 blowouts coming our way.
To me, one of the roles the fans need to play is to make sure ownership knows they are held accountable for the product on the field. People like you enable people like the Glazers to milk a horrible team for cash and not care. The ignorant ninnies will still shout our praises!
The one whose hind end needs to be hit by the door on the way out are the blind PollyAnnas like yourself.
Maybe you should change your handle to “Snowflake.” More fitting.
February 1st, 2023 at 8:09 pm
Goathumper- you have zero good points. Congratulations! Did you ever think that maybe just maybe Trask will be better than Brady, at a fraction of the cost. Trask was big time in college and got to learn from the GOAT for 2 years. Bowles is an awesome defensive coach and has the respect of his players. With the right OC this team could win the division again. Brady wasn’t that good anymore. Trask may be better.
February 1st, 2023 at 8:16 pm
Newsflash. Tom doesn’t want to be an Offensive Coordinator. He doesn’t want to be tied down to that job. At most, he would be a consultant.
February 1st, 2023 at 10:19 pm
The tragedy of Todd Bowles’ head coaching fiasco, the gross team mismanagement that continues, is that it tarnished the legacy of the greatest QB. It was Brady’s own fault that he didn’t retire as he was hoisting the Lombardi two years ago. That would have been perfection. But he just had to play, because he loves a game that he is addicted to, and especially his addiction to the challenge. Hanging it up after nearly singlehandedly beating the Rams would have been a good exit as well, but still, he couldn’t stay away.
Leave it to Bowles and the host of problems left unaddressed for 2 seasons, and new ones that fielded a subpar team, for leaving Brady without the all-in that his final season deserved.
I still believe that Brady would still have had a shot, in the right situation. Going back to the San Francisco to mentor Brock Purdy, and be part of a legit Super Bowl contender again, would have been a nice bookend. Once again, it sounds like Shanahan didn’t want it,and they are banking on Purdy to heal miraculously.
If the Bucs were the only alternative to retirement, I’d have picked retirement and a nice Fox TV job too.
Adios, GOAT.
February 1st, 2023 at 10:57 pm
Bucscuz –
!!!!!!!!
BwaaaaahahaaaaahahahahhHHAAAA !
You must not know what your looking at when an oblong spheroid is being tossed around. Trashk is a slow learner, but at least he makes up for that by staring his primary receivers down with Glennonesque pocket awareness, and having similar mobility to Brady – at the age of 24.
Better than Brady!
Own that one putz. You just wrote that for the world to see.
February 2nd, 2023 at 4:10 am
It’s becoming very clear, no one wants to work for/with Bowles. Clear the deck and hire a new staff. He’s a pariah.