Until Further Notice, BSPN Believes Bucs Will Be Really Bad
February 14th, 2023
Bucs GM Jason Licht.
Two weeks before the combine, the Bucs find themselves in a pinch.
They don’t know who their quarterback is.
They don’t know who their quarterback coach will be.
They don’t know who their offensive coordinator will be.
So when ESPN decided to sit down and rank all 32 NFL teams in a post-Super Bowl calendar, they found no reason to suggest the Bucs would be a good team.
So the four-letter slapped the Bucs with a No. 25 ranking. Jenna Laine had to do the dirty work and make the Bucs look good, despite missing so many pieces to the puzzle and likely to lose a bunch of starters as salary cap casualties.
It’s an impossible task, replacing a seven-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback, not only in terms of play but leadership. But to keep their window for contention open and maximize the time they have receivers Mike Evans and Chris Godwin and linebackers Lavonte David and Devin White all together, the Bucs will need to find a veteran replacement or strike gold in the draft at No. 19.
Right now as painful as it may seem, Joe isn’t confident David returns. If he does, he would likely have to take a paycut.
Joe saw a graphic on social media — Joe has no clue of the source — that predicted the Bucs to be 3-14 this fall.
Yes, the Bucs could find a veteran quarterback. But paying the guy might really put a pinch on the rest of the team unless you backload his salary.
February 14th, 2023 at 3:53 am
Yep, rebuild year….expecting a 2 win season…is what it is.
February 14th, 2023 at 4:00 am
Without Brady the Bucs would have been 4-13 this past season. Bowels of Toad are quite capable of producing 3 wins or less. As long as this clown is head coich, Bucs are doomed.
February 14th, 2023 at 4:39 am
Said it right at the end of the season, Glazers should have done the right thing and fired Bowles. Total waste of a season incoming. At least if u make a move at head coach you could hire a guy like Monken and put a good staff around a young QB. Hopefully they don’t let Bowles draft one…yikes.
February 14th, 2023 at 4:47 am
Fans would celebrate an 8-9 record in 2023.
Hire any old OC. Pick up a journeyman QB. Stack the D in the draft and a starting tackle along with a day 3 TE and RB. You will have a top 5 or 10 pick next year for a QB and other offensive picks.
Combine this with the need to get the salary cap in line (low cost depth FAs only) and I can’t disagree with BSPN. Two to five wins looks about right. The only reason I go as high as 5 is because I don’t believe our division will be significantly better so we will get 2-3 wins there and we do play the Texans, Colts and Bears who also will struggle. That should be at least one more along with one surprise win somewhere (not SF, Buffalo or Philly — maybe Titans or Vikings).
February 14th, 2023 at 6:11 am
it’s becoming abundantly clear that no worthy guy wants to be penciled in as the new OC to ride with HC bowles…
it’s a real problem…
the glazers and licht needed to nip this one in the bud after the cowboys debacle…
now the team could be plummeting into a mudslide…
unless they’ve done it on purpose…you know create the mess that no one wants to latch onto…then do a vet purge…could be a calculated plan to rip it to shreds for one season…
then invest in a rebuild which often doesn’t even go right, or as planned (see jameis)…
then before you know it, it’s another lost decade with no decadence…
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i personally would have gone for a season or so of mediocrity with a chance at the division – as the south winner is most likely mediocre at best again…10-7 should grab it…
crashing and burning puts the bucs at rock bottom again – as cam jordan stated in that interview at the pro bowl…
and defines the bucs as a little nothing without brady…
the bucs leveled up last time i checked…or at least i thought they did
February 14th, 2023 at 6:12 am
Bucs Guy, you are correct in that the problem is the Saints will be bad too (and also have a way below average coach like TB) as will the ATL and Carolina. I think this can impact any chance of the Bucs getting the numero uno pick even with Bowels as coach as it could get them to 2-4 or 3-3 in division as you surmised.
Tnaking may not be possible in such a bad division. Remember that Carolina and the ATL were both at one point of last season predicted to tank for the number 1. They failed and ended up with 7-10 records that will get them picking at 8 and 9, better than the Bucs but probably where the best players on their board will be missing. The Bucs will probably end up bad, 5-12 like bad but that is probably just enough wins to have them miss out on the marque qbs coming out. Also remember how the Bucs upset the Saints week 17 a few years back? That one win turned drafting Quenton Nelson into getting part time player Vita Vea and a pair of 2nd rounders. In the 2000s the 4-12 Gruden led Bucs beat the 4-12 Browns late in the year to slip from 2 to 4 in the draft order. The guys taken at 2 and 3: Calvin Johnson and Joe Thomas, both with gold jackets. The Bucs got Gaines Adams. That is just how the draft breaks for the Bucs, kind of like Lovie Smith winning his final game for the Texans just to lose the number one overall pick….. Even if they do get in the top 3, Licht will probably get cute and select a bust or trade down for extra picks and watch the generational players all go off the baord before he picks. Its a Bucs’ Life again. Barday helped make that go away for a couple of seasons….
February 14th, 2023 at 6:14 am
Wasn’t Chucky fired after back to back 9-7 seasons? 8-9 wins for Todd would be his ultimate goal.
February 14th, 2023 at 6:17 am
at least ride with baker mayfied…he has one last shot at nfl success before he is relegated to career backup duty…
give him a shot…he can be sort of like a jeff garcia…
sure we’re not winning a superbowl with him, but we could win the division — possibly….
make a few funny commercials – maybe ———do something
February 14th, 2023 at 6:22 am
Bowles is a joke….he was handed a job that he likely would never have been in position for if the normal hiring process took place. I’ve lost all respect for Arians, he’s left the organization in one jam after another.
February 14th, 2023 at 6:22 am
so wait………
we’re like the ugly kid at the prom with body oder who keeps getting turned down every time he asks a girl to dance ???
#NoOcToBeHad
February 14th, 2023 at 6:23 am
As bad as NFC South was last season, when it came down to effort level by players during the whole season, I’d rank Bucs the last. If Bucs plays with the same intensity next season, they’ll have no problem tanking all the way through. Saints are tough. Panthers are tough. Falcons are tough. Against Bucs… People already forget all our rivals ALMOST SWEPT US LAST SEASON!!!
Go Bucs!
February 14th, 2023 at 6:45 am
Why have we not had a State of the Buccaneers address from the “leadership “
Not a peep since they walked off the field in the Wildcard humiliation
February 14th, 2023 at 6:46 am
All of you Brady haters should really enjoy the next couple of years. This is what you asked for. By just being here, he attracted quality players. Now that he’s gone, what’s the attraction? It sure isn’t the coaching staff. And get rid of the loafers and strokers. I don’t care who they are. We need people who want to win more than just collect a huge paycheck for lousy effort.
February 14th, 2023 at 6:52 am
This is all Lichts fault, poor vision for post Brady and poor drafting with the premium picks led this team to be without any depth.
Look at the Chiefs, Eagles, Bills, Ravens and heck Bengals rosters and there is good depth at every position…us, we invested in players that had trouble staying on the field,and poor planning at the coaching level.
This will doom Lichts tenure as GM, he will NOT get to pick the next coach.
He rode Arians and Brady’s coat tail and now the chickens will come home to roost.
February 14th, 2023 at 7:03 am
There’s no chance for dissapointment next season as far as I’m concerned. I expect them to suck and suck convincingly. Todd Bowles is the worst HC in the entire league. His teams preparation and intensity last season was in a word DISGUSTING.
February 14th, 2023 at 7:03 am
The Bucs will clean house
We will suck AGAIN
Bucs will collect their money
And run a team with a CRAP HC and second rate OC because no one wants that job under Lovie, I mean Raheem ,,, I mean Bowles
So many crap HC
February 14th, 2023 at 7:14 am
It’s time to take our medicine….at least we won our SB….some teams suck badly and didn’t win the prize….
No sense in complaining about it….it is what it is….
Go with Trask, get younger……get under the cap….suck it up….quit kicking the can.
Look at the bright side….we’ve got a good punter.
February 14th, 2023 at 7:28 am
SS76
Brady would not be a difference maker
Brady played too long
Brady needs EVERYTHING to be perfect
Brady doesn’t fit the modern NFL
Brady is the GOAT and is out of the conversation now
February 14th, 2023 at 7:35 am
Does anyone really believe this team will be better than the Bears next year? They have the number 1 pick in the draft this year. And were able to somehow squeak past the 49ers in a deluge last year. I don’t know about 3-14. But at this point, an 8-9 season looks almost like a miracle.
February 14th, 2023 at 7:37 am
SB, I’m talking about going forward and only pointing out to the haters that, now that he’s gone, we will see how much of a draw the Brady-less Bucs are. Which, apparently, isn’t much. Don’t forget we kicked ass the two years prior with an immobile QB.
February 14th, 2023 at 7:38 am
Adam from NY … ‘At least ride with baker mayfied…he has one last shot at nfl success before he is relegated to career backup duty’.
Mayfield has already shown, with several teams, that he’s not a franchise QB. Why spend the $$$ on a QB who, with a decent team around him, will get you to 7-10 or 8-9? That wins you nothing except a bad draft position.
All in favor of letting Trask, Gabbert & another inexpensive FA QB duking it out for the starting role, then seeing what we’ve got. If one falters, roll with #2. If he drops the ball (figuratively), then #3’s up. Not unlike what San Fran ended up doing this year? Fix as many of our other problems as we can this year (personnel-wise), and clean up as much of the CAP mess as we can (it’ll still be horrendous next year however no matter what we do this year).
IOW use 2023 as a ‘Neighborhood Cleanup Day’. It’s always essential to play-to-win IMO so that you can see what you’ve got for talent that you can build around moving forward, and especially regarding team leaders. You never know when you’ll find those diamonds-in-the-rough. Like Ryan Jensen; 6th Rnd pick who took several years to truly develop but who now sets the attitude for our OLine & is a true team leader.
February 14th, 2023 at 7:41 am
Adam…what amazes me is that it took a couple weeks for some fans to figure out where we really were. They seemed to look at last season, ignoring the bad record, and focusing on the Division championship in a 4 team division of all weak teams. All those I sparred with months ago and I are basically on the same page…. Rebuild with a capital R. I think if we all agree on this topic, we probably are right. Seems somewhat obvious. But we are strategically acting like a team that thinks we are one player away from a SB run. Sheesh….
February 14th, 2023 at 7:43 am
Some sportswriter/announcer said last August the Bucs were going to be the biggest disappointment in the 2022 season. So if its the same guy prepare for a very bad year in 2023.
February 14th, 2023 at 7:45 am
I think Ryan is a warrior. Hopefully that big knee injury is fine. But who knows if it will hold up, without surgery which was his choice, for an entire season next year.
February 14th, 2023 at 7:57 am
Wake Up folks!
This franchise is a joke!
Sell the team Glazer’s!
February 14th, 2023 at 8:03 am
At 3-14 would Bowles get another year so he can get the right players for his outdated philosophy? Or would the Glazers realize the error of their ways and get rid of “No risk it, don’t want no biscuit”?
February 14th, 2023 at 8:09 am
it’s a bucs life
February 14th, 2023 at 8:20 am
“impossible task”
Oh! JOE!
Got a new nickname!
‘Impossible Trask’
Whether he’s good or not, it fits!
February 14th, 2023 at 8:21 am
They bet the Ranch on the Head Clown last year and lost. Now as all losers do they are double down mode to do it again. They could go all the way to Zero wins again.
February 14th, 2023 at 8:28 am
3-14 with a clean cap could be key to a high-pick 2024 draft.
Who will be worse?
February 14th, 2023 at 8:30 am
3-14 seems optimistic.
February 14th, 2023 at 8:32 am
Bucs fire Bowels and name Eric Bieniemy head coach.
February 14th, 2023 at 8:32 am
Bowles stupid doesn’t he see they are setting him up for the fall
February 14th, 2023 at 8:38 am
Based upon the commentary here, it won’t be difficult for the Bucs to beat expectations in 2023. Maybe that at least partially compensates for the Bucs not meeting expectations in 2022.
February 14th, 2023 at 8:43 am
LVMYBUCS Says:
February 14th, 2023 at 8:32 am
‘Bowles stupid doesn’t he see they are setting him up for the fall’
Maybe he’ll retire!
February 14th, 2023 at 8:48 am
With our luck the Bucs will win 6 games next year beating Carolina, New Orleans and Atlanta twice each… Win the NFC South with a 6-11 record then get beaten to a bloody pulp again in the playoffs.
Next years draft position? Lucky #19…
LOL!
Go Bucs!
February 14th, 2023 at 8:49 am
A 1 or 2 win season would be just what the doctor ordered. A new coach and a new QB. I would not complain.
February 14th, 2023 at 9:01 am
BB..with that fat salary? He is better off riding it out. No one knows how many big paydays they have, and why walk away, when all you have to do is control your emotions on the sidelines.
February 14th, 2023 at 9:03 am
Buc50. The Bucs usually don’t roll that way. They will win just enough games to miss guys like Joe Thomas, and Suh.. and draft Gaines Adams and Gerald McCoy. And when they do have a top draft choice take a Caddy Williams over an Aaron Rodgers. It is a Bucs life, as someone said. Marine is probably right,…winning just enough games to cement a decade of futility.
February 14th, 2023 at 9:11 am
I love this narrative. It is going to put a lot of cash in my pocket. Just like last year when everyone pegged the Buccaneers to be a Superbowl contender despite losing a pro bowl left guard and center and a Hall of Fame tight end. Always bet against Group Think! If Vegas posts a win number under 7, bet the house on Over. Last year’s number was 11 and that was a gift. So was the 11 on the Packers.
February 14th, 2023 at 9:35 am
Buddha…sometimes. But they were pretty much on the money regarding KC.
February 14th, 2023 at 9:38 am
All these entitled fans about to be humbled again 🤣🤣🤣🤣
February 14th, 2023 at 9:42 am
After watching the SB, it is apparent that the Bucs are slow, very slow. Old and slow without a mobile QB is not a winning combo anymore. The game has changed and the Bucs better change ASAP.
February 14th, 2023 at 9:47 am
Our Bucs deserve what they will gave coming. We fire an OC even though he had 2 outstanding seasons. And we refuse to admit, the reason for that firing is because Brady really stunk it up this past season. So lets roll out the sacrificial lamb folks. Now you break up what little continuity your offense had and bring in a new guy who might not even have NFL OC experience? If you were gonna fire Leftwich, then you should have cleaned house and fired your HC as well. Grab some wood Buc fans, you’re gonna need plenty of it this season.
February 14th, 2023 at 10:04 am
Agree
February 14th, 2023 at 10:11 am
I foresee 4 to 6 wins and rank 28 to 32 no matter what because bad coaching pollutes a good roster. And bowels is among 1 of the worst HCs…. Bowles makesnany team rotten and sinks their chance of winning!
February 14th, 2023 at 10:12 am
We will be bad. Sacrificial season
February 14th, 2023 at 10:17 am
Joe’s, we here at JBF.com will let you know when the Bucs no longer stink. Some schmuck at BSPN doesn’t harbor half the knowledge of this team than those that post here. Hell, they prolly come over here to check the pulse.
Go Bucs!
February 14th, 2023 at 10:18 am
Bucs… I think among other things, we will greatly miss Brady’s quick release and reads. You put a QB back there that takes an extra second to get the ball off, and it spells big trouble with our O line.
February 14th, 2023 at 10:19 am
BTW…Carr does have a quick release. And I’d bet that is one thing that Licht likes about him, with his knowledge of what this line isn’t capable of doing…Like protecting the QB for longer periods of time.
February 14th, 2023 at 10:24 am
To everybody b!tching about how the roster is assembled and that there isn’t enough depth and yada, yada, yada….. We signed a 43 year old QB with what turned out to be a three year window on his career. There was no building for the future going on. It was win now.
Everybody kissed Licht’s a$$ for bringing everybody back the year after the Super Bowl for another run. There was a price involved in that. Contracts were fudged and kicked down the road. You can’t have it both ways when the window is that small.
Quit your crying, bite the pillow, and get ready to pay the price for signing Brady in the twilight of his career. Set expectations low for the next couple years and catch up on some yard work on your Sunday afternoons.
February 14th, 2023 at 11:00 am
3-4 wins sounds about right for 2023.
February 14th, 2023 at 11:05 am
I would say closer to 30
February 14th, 2023 at 11:13 am
And with the 1st pick of the 2024 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select QB Caleb Williams USC.
February 14th, 2023 at 11:20 am
BSPN should be aware it’s two days after the Super Bowl. LFG BUCS!!!
February 14th, 2023 at 11:22 am
Mark 2001 KC again qS good contrarian narrative. Their total was set at 10.5 because they traded their all pro wide receiver and the AFC West was expected to be highly competitive which turned out to be not at all the case. Gift
February 14th, 2023 at 12:10 pm
BSPN is right.
February 14th, 2023 at 12:27 pm
Todd Monken just got hired by the Ravens as OC. Albert Breer is reporting Todd Monken turned down the Bucs. He went with his preferred destination and the better OC job opening with the Ravens.
February 14th, 2023 at 12:33 pm
I’m sorry if I’m not in league with a lot of you nay sayers who say Kyle Trask will stink up the joint. If Licht puts a good team around Kyle and continue adding good depth he may surprise us all and have an outstanding rookie season. If Mr. Irrelevant Brock Purdy, Jalen Hurts, Minshew etccc. can then why not Kyle Trask?
February 14th, 2023 at 12:36 pm
This is the most unattractive OC job available this year because everyone and their mother knows Bowles is toast next year, and there is no QB, no OL, and the team is $55 mil over the cap. You basically take the job knowing it’s a one year stop-gap gig.
February 14th, 2023 at 12:57 pm
Duh
We lose the Brady effect of free agents
Now we have to rely on lichts drafting
1st pick in draft the next 3 drafts
February 14th, 2023 at 2:16 pm
Bucs are in deep trouble.. No OC , No QB , No O-line , $50 mil over cap , and a pathetic, arrogant HC who knows it all !!!
Any good Buc FA will leave , & don’t be surprised if a few under contract retire(Jensen) ,or ask to be traded
February 14th, 2023 at 3:34 pm
Nah.
The line has had a season together. We still have talented offensive weapons.
There are some good QBs out of work. Worst case Gabbert can win a few.
Gotta decide on a QB quick, to get An O.C.
What really hurt was our rookie D lineman being as bad as I thought they’d be.
Gotta fix the defense. Problems on every level, and losing Shaq wont help.
I called the 8-9 last year. My early call is 6-11.
Anyone going to the Guardians first home game?
February 14th, 2023 at 3:37 pm
We wont have a winning record, until we get a new head coach. Team will have to win in spite of him this year.
February 14th, 2023 at 3:41 pm
captivajim Says:
February 14th, 2023 at 2:16 pm
I don’t know how anyone gets “arrogant” or “knows it all” from Todd Bowles. Making reasonable criticisms is certainly fair, but accusing him of things that are completely inaccurate is just piling on. Todd Bowles is a good and decent man. It’s his job to have opinions and beliefs. The fact that you don’t agree with him doesn’t mean he’s arrogant. He’s NOT Lovie Smith — that was an arrogant man who was condescending to anyone who questioned him.
February 14th, 2023 at 4:08 pm
Every year they are wrong on almost every team. Last year they had the Bucs as one of the top 2 teams and lauded the roster the best in the league. They also had the Rams as a juggernaut.
February 14th, 2023 at 4:46 pm
It was sad watching Brady so obviously no longer more than average at qb. Then all the injuries kept piling up. The defense was good enough to keep a lot of the games close for awhile. But to put it bluntly the product on the field was a dumpster fire. By the half way point of the season it was increasingly hard to watch. Don’t remember ever watching a team fall so low so quickly. Tweedledee and tweedledum coached, the GM was silent,, and the Glazers were nowhere to be seen or heard. Total collapse of the franchise. Clean house and rebuild from the top down.
February 14th, 2023 at 8:48 pm
Keep 31, 78 and 14. Everyone else is expendable.