The Kyle Trask Era
February 27th, 2023
Bucs QB Kyle Trask.
It seems a bit odd that the Bucs would turn to a guy who in two years has a grand total of three completions to his resume. Alas, it seems that’s what the Bucs will do.
Welcome to the Kyle Trask Era.
Joe’s good friend Mike Tanier of Football Outsiders is trying to piece together what this means.
Frankly, good for them. General manager Jason Licht fired all the Glazer cannons, won a Super Bowl, competed for another, watched the Brady mini-era roll to a stop, and now looks ready to unapologetically start over. The Bucs might as well kick the tires on Trask and some other youngster while they eat money. And Trask will at least get the benefit of a solid supporting cast.
This is true. Rarely does a young quarterback get to play with guys like Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Ryan Jensen, Tristan Wirfs and possibly Playoff Lenny. That’s a good supporting cast. If Trask demonstrated progress, then he ought to continue it playing with those guys.
And now the discouraging news: Trask is 72-of-122 for 769 yards, two touchdowns, four interceptions, 13 sacks, a 59.0% completion rate, 6.3 yards per attempt, and a 9.6% sack rate over two preseasons of extensive action. Preseason stats are essentially gibberish, but there’s nothing in that stat line to inspire much hope, and the sack rate (as well as the fact that Trask could not supplant Blaine Gabbert on a cap-tight team in 2022) are worrisome.
There is certainly that. Last year at the start of training camp, Blaine Gabbert was maybe a step ahead of Trask. After the first week, Gabbert began to pull away. After the third week, the question was not if Trask could be the No. 2 backup, it was if he could beat out Ryan Griffin for No. 3.
Now there is speculation the Bucs might bring in scatterbrain Drew Lock.
“That sounds a little tea-leafy—why would Canales want to work with someone who lost a quarterback competition on his watch last year?” Tanier asked.
Exactly. Off the top of Joe’s head, Joe can only think of one quarterback who lost two quarterback battles with two different teams and did anything with his third team. That was Rich Gannon.
If the Bucs bring in Lock, that’s like when lousy Lovie Smith turned to Stewart McClown. This dude couldn’t beat out Jason Campbell with the Bears and Lovie thought he was the guy to lead the Bucs to the Super Bowl? (Lovie was as clueless about player evaluation as Joe has ever seen an NFL head coach be.)
Lock lost a preseason battle in Seattle to Geno Smith. In Denver, Lock lost his starting gig to Jeff Driskel. C’mon now.
If Trask takes the bull by the horns and shows he’s an NFL quarterback, great. If not, as Ryan Clark of BSPN said, #CollaspeForCaleb is on!
(FYI, Joe is more confident that Canales can help Trask than failed offensive coordinator Byron Leftwich.)
February 27th, 2023 at 8:04 am
It’s Kyle Trask time bebe!!!!!!!
February 27th, 2023 at 8:05 am
Era?
February 27th, 2023 at 8:06 am
All Bucs fans should realize the Glazers boys ain’t gonna spend $$$$ during these rebuilding years.
Now comes the “ERA” of the lost years again for this Franchise.
Get your beer and alcohol ready cause it’s gonna be a long season of losing.
February 27th, 2023 at 8:14 am
3-14
February 27th, 2023 at 8:18 am
This is great, pulling for Trask.
I sit back and read a lot of comments on here. It’s funny as hell to hear the Jameis Apologists be the biggest doubters. Kind of ironic that they still slobber all over themselves for that failed experiment, but they can’t even be objective to see that Trask can get a shot.
I believe that Trask could be our answer at QB if he takes care of the ball. Jameis did not take care of the ball, hence why he’s not a starter in this league.
And, if Trask doesn’t earn the spot moving forward, that’s ok, because we got our heads out of our collective asses in time to sign Tom Brady and try to draft a young QB. Go Bucs! So thrilled for the last three years- a story
Book ending- and we had no future with Jameis turning it over like “Halloween candy” as Joe rightfully points out.
February 27th, 2023 at 8:21 am
Trask it is and add a couple late draft picks. Sounds good. If Canales can avoid The Bowles Curse they might even win more than 4 games.
February 27th, 2023 at 8:24 am
Anthem, nothing lost dude- we added a trophy to the case and had TB12 tie a bow on his beautiful Jordan-esque career.
I would do anything for another super bowl ring. It was so hard to win it with our historic defense in 2002. We had the goat in 2020.
The goat won a super bowl in less than 365 days after signing, and now we retool again.
Better to go for it and get it then to sit back and “hope”.
February 27th, 2023 at 8:25 am
bring on Trask!
with they way they are building this run 1st dink and dunk offense it should be a good place for him to get his feet wet. might even make me watch and see what the young guy can do….cause I sure aint tuning in to see what bowls is doing!
February 27th, 2023 at 8:27 am
Anthem,
What kind of “hope” did you instill for Jameis or Freeman? They both were 1st round busts. Not leaders and unable to develop franchise QBs. Both had talent, but couldn’t put it all Together.
The point is, did you put your faith into previous QBs more so than Trask? And if so, on what merit? Draft status? FSU alumnus? Just curious in all honesty to see what you see when you doubt Trask, but potentially had “hope/positive” thoughts on others. Ok what measurable metric do you define this? Thanks!
February 27th, 2023 at 8:31 am
The proof is in the pudding! Maybe just maybe KT adds a special ingredient to this coming season.. hope!! Can KT rise and compete playing with the ones?? To be continued.
February 27th, 2023 at 8:39 am
@ SteveK
Listen, I…like any Bucs fan, did pull for Winston and Freeman…………..
But Kyle Trask has shown us NOTHING!!!! since he’s been drafted….that’s pretty bad.
He maybe the worst draftee from Gainesville this Franchise has ever made!!!!
February 27th, 2023 at 8:39 am
Info,
Exactly, stand-by, more to come. Excited to see who our QB is this year, and it is pretty cool to see the Bucs draft a QB two years ago to put in an incubator with BA and TB12.
Rodgers got to sit for three years before getting his shot and not looking back. Mahomes say a season behind smith. Maybe Trask has continued his development and got better the past two years. Based on his track record that is a good Possibility and worth a shot.
I don’t understand why some fans were blindly devoted to loser QBs and won’t even give another QB a chance. It’s “NDog logic” at it’s finest.
February 27th, 2023 at 8:41 am
Steve K, I’m not so sure Freeman was a bust. I mean he ended up being that way. I think he was sacked and hit so many times that he couldn’t remember his way home. Prior to the concussion protocol era we’re in now. Kinda like where Miami’s guy Tua is heading.
February 27th, 2023 at 8:43 am
Anthem,
We had the Goat for three years and he wanted a. Experienced backup. Of course Trask showed nothing. He wasn’t asked too and he stayed in his lane tk develop.
He may still show us nothing, but why is your glass “half empty”
For Trask, and “overflowing” for other prior QBs?
I was all for Freeman and Jameis until the started sucking and not getting My better. They both lacked maturity. I hope we find a good QB, Trask or whomever, and, as a fan, I will apply equality of “fanship” for whoever the QB is. I think its silly to be unbalanced in one’s evaluation of a Qb prospect.
February 27th, 2023 at 8:46 am
Freeman sold out the team for partying. His heart was not on football he was super talented, but didn’t care enough to apply himself for
It. Freeman missed the bus to the first game agains the Jets in 2014. By the end of the year he was inactive and crying to ESPN about being benched. He was not the answer. However, his 2010
Season gave me rightful hope to which He went down a path of
Being a bust.
February 27th, 2023 at 8:46 am
@ SteveK
Trask arm strength and thowing motion reminds me too much of Brad Johnson……….. 🙁
February 27th, 2023 at 8:48 am
I understand prospects, draft
Status, and all the other fancy applications to slobbering over QBs, but why can’t a later round guy do better? Maybe not, but we don’t know. And our last two 1st round QBs were not the answer. So glad we are continuing to try and develop a QB.
February 27th, 2023 at 8:49 am
Anthem,
Very fair. But Brad Johnson was a winner and I’d take that.
He was solid in MN and DC before coming to Tampa. Not ever going to be Elway or Favre, but w big guy with some talent who could find a way. I know it wasn’t sexy, but it was effective and I like trophies in our case.
February 27th, 2023 at 8:50 am
@ SteveK
…..and I don’t see any franchish QBs this year either.
Caleb whatever his name is does not impress me at all…..looks average to a bust to me.
February 27th, 2023 at 8:50 am
Man, just get another QB in here that Trask can compete with where the prize isn’t just being the back up and dressing on Sundays.
February 27th, 2023 at 8:52 am
I just saw where Johnson didnt play much until he was 26 in MN. And didn’t start until he was 31 in DC. Maybe Trask can be solid like Brad Johnson? I would honestly be ok with that bc I think that wins.
February 27th, 2023 at 8:53 am
Everyone talks about how hard Arians O is then expects bottom of the roster skill guys to master it and execute it. If you like a player in the offseason and pre season then you let him roll with the ones in practice and pre season games not 5th 6th stringers in the 4th quarter. Give the kid an opp with the 1’s with hopefully a playbook and players that gives the O easier throws and completions. I think thats what Bowles wants. He knows its a pass first league he understands what opposing offenses are doing and saw Our O was a dinosaur.
February 27th, 2023 at 8:53 am
Anthem,
I need to watch more of Caleb before I weigh in, but in my opinion mobile QBs break my heart. They’re great until their broken. Give me a pocket guy who can distribute, deliver, and decide on time.
February 27th, 2023 at 8:55 am
Watching some of Trask, I was impressed with his touch and accuracy on passes. Hopefully he has lighter feet and quicker release and he could really be something.
February 27th, 2023 at 8:56 am
Also,
Which JBFers would be “ok” with using our second round pick on QB Hendon Hooker? Why? He’s old for a prospect and has a tore knee. Trask is close to the same age with a good knee and two years of NFL development.
February 27th, 2023 at 9:03 am
SteveK,
Are you on your 4th or 5th Red Bull?
Good stuff though!
February 27th, 2023 at 9:06 am
I don’t remember Trask having the benefit of playing with any 1st stringers in those preseason games
February 27th, 2023 at 9:06 am
I hope he does very well, but it’s way too early to tell what is going to happen. Obviously we will sign 2-3 more qbs and then see who and what will happen.
February 27th, 2023 at 9:09 am
Kyle Trask?: Bucs fans should shake, then shudder
February 27th, 2023 at 9:10 am
Uh oh Joe, you mentioned Ryan Griffin. How long til we hear from the Griffin gang about giving him a real chance?
February 27th, 2023 at 9:15 am
Come on now, Jack, lol.
Was Griffin drafted to be developed? He lasted a long time and mad respect to him.
Did you support Freeman or Winston? If so, why not Trask?
February 27th, 2023 at 9:16 am
Thomas,
What makes you shake, then shudder from Trask?
February 27th, 2023 at 9:17 am
do u buy season tkts again if Trask is the qb?
February 27th, 2023 at 9:18 am
@ TheBucsAnthem
“Kyle Trask has shown us NOTHING!!!!”
You are correct…
Trask has not started a single NFL game yet. Maybe he will be horrible – maybe he will be a decent QB.
How do we know anything about him – the only game film we have of him is playing with 3rd and 4th stringers in preseason or the couple of minutes he played against Atlanta with half of the offensive starters on the bench?
Again – I’m not saying you are wrong… But you could be.
We will all know soon but not until he is given a fair chance.
February 27th, 2023 at 9:18 am
Not saying Trask will be the answer, but not saying he won’t either.
Why do some fans feel that Trask is not worth of a shot, and if you feel that way, why did you also feel we should “stick with” Jameis and or Freeman longer? IMHO, a lot of fans wanted to ride it out with those busts, rather than try to see what another QB can do? If Trask sucks, draft another, if he’s good- hell yeah!
Why can some fans not even find an opening in their minds to seeing Trask play? It’s weird to me and I don’t get it. Draft status be damned, can the dude play?
February 27th, 2023 at 9:19 am
So if we are to believe that Trask is not the guy before not having watched him start a single game in the NFL is it not fair to hold the person who spent a 2nd round pick on him responsible?
Then you have to ask if you want Licht to be the one to draft yet another quarterback instead? I don’t trust this guy and cannot see how any of you do either. His success rate in the draft is quite low with only a handful of good players to show for it.
February 27th, 2023 at 9:19 am
Ben,
People will buy tickets if the Bucs win, but he’s not a fancy first round QB so I can see how the casual fan isn’t excited.
February 27th, 2023 at 9:22 am
Raging,
Dude, what?
Licht dug is out from Dumb ass Dominik, and his proud drifting ways of “I don’t draft o-line, rather see them play in NFL first) among other stupid stuff.
Licht put together a roster that won “Brady “ over. And the rest is history. I’ll take that every time and most sane Buc fans would too.
Only poser and bandwagon fans hold the team to a standard of “how” they win. I could care less, just beat the opponent, win the game, and get me a championship.
Why do fans care too much about shiny paint job on a car, and not a solid, well-built engine?
February 27th, 2023 at 9:24 am
Raging,
Hey trust Licht because he got us a ring. He built the roster that Tom wanted to join freely, that speaks volumes.
Now, we retool, I am proud as hell that we went “all-in” for the great GOTSBE (greatest of the super bowl era). It was a once in a lifetime opportunity and he nailed it!
February 27th, 2023 at 9:26 am
I am compelled for the anti-Trask crowd to please enlighten me “why”? And, back it up with “why” you preferred Jameis or Freeman?
And to that same crowd- were you also against singing the Goat? Bc if you were, it makes me that much more confident in Trask’s potential. Lol!
February 27th, 2023 at 9:29 am
GMF really talking up Anthony Richardson this morning
February 27th, 2023 at 9:35 am
Trask gets a lot of comments.
Joe baits them with Trask.
For all we know he won’t even be on the team this year, traded or cut to make room for geno smith, who knows
February 27th, 2023 at 9:35 am
Richardson looks very talented! If we draft him, awesome!
Not sure he lasts to 19.
February 27th, 2023 at 9:36 am
Matthew veal,
Trask, cut? Lol no chance.
February 27th, 2023 at 9:37 am
I’m OK with this.
It was a great three…well, two…years with Brady. And BA. Going all-in was the right thing to do.
Now the “right thing to do” is fix the cap and retool.
Losing with a goal in mind while fixing the cap > losing with high SB/Brady expectations.
Now, if the team can fix the HC situation…
February 27th, 2023 at 9:39 am
I suspect the Joes are among the few who care what Dominic has to say. “Rock Star” was the architect of those dismal, lost seasons…
February 27th, 2023 at 9:40 am
Cobra,
We should all be “ok” with one championship, and Babe Ruth, or Michael Jordan, or Wayne Gretzky, or Tom Brady on our team. Lol we could all be so lucky as to land a living legend.
Last year was a sad ending, but TB12 overcame divorce and an all new interior OL to still win the division and set records. I was sad we didn’t do more around him, but even watching 2022 it was still a higher quality football than with Jameis or Freeman or other recent multi-year starters.
February 27th, 2023 at 9:43 am
Anthem, the owners have spent plenty on this team almost every year they’ve owned them. The only time they went cheap was during the housing crisis when they and all the other owners with a lot of holdings in real estate lost their shirt. They went cheap with Morris and for a couple of years after. Before that and after that they’ve spent as much as any other ownership group. Conjecture about Trask all you want as that’s a relevant conversation. But we do not have cheap owners.
February 27th, 2023 at 9:44 am
Trust Licht?? Really?? You better take a sober look at last years draft-best player was a freaking punter-PREESH
February 27th, 2023 at 9:44 am
Further to my previous comment, any appearance of cheap this year will be because we’re 50 plus million in the whole. Simple math.
February 27th, 2023 at 9:48 am
Trask might have been playing more if Brady had not insisted on the more experienced Gabbert be number 2 assisting him on the sidelines. You never know if Trask can be an able QB after waiting for his chance. After all he has a history of waiting for his turn and being surprisingly decent. Give him a chance!
Go Bucs!
February 27th, 2023 at 9:54 am
Let’s go Trask but okay if we bring in another cheap vet and perhaps another young QB to have at the ready. Trask when given the opportunity excelled and I think he will do same here. We have a new OC who can coach up young QBs and he will build an offense around him to support him.
February 27th, 2023 at 9:55 am
“The only time they went cheap was during the housing crisis when they and all the other owners with a lot of holdings in real estate lost their shirt. They went cheap with Morris and for a couple of years after.”
Had more to do with paying off Gruden & Allens’ salaries in 2009 which was a combined $25Mil the Glazers were on the hook for as long as neither were employed by another team. Morris & Dominick were put in position as inexpensive placeholders while Gruden went to ESPN and collected 2 checks for 3 years until 2012, but agreed the Glazers spend money, maybe not wisely all the time, but they’re only “cheap” when it comes to overpaying.
February 27th, 2023 at 10:07 am
Do any of you f#$@%$g experts on this site think an overpriced retread is going to lead the BUCS to the promise land? Trask won’t either but comes a lot cheaper and can prove one way or the other this year if any good. Inexpensive back ups while the Bucs payoff the superbowl, save some money, balance the checkbook and help the cap pinch. Be ready going forward. GO BUCS
February 27th, 2023 at 10:10 am
in layman’s terms:
it’s mentally very difficult to digest going from tommy b to kyle t
February 27th, 2023 at 10:16 am
Better to have loved (signed old man Brady), and lost (retirement), then to have never loved at all.
Same with Gruden- we went bold and made a big trade to pay the man. Got us our first trophy.
Malcolm and kids each got us a ring. I have belly aches about their use of the cap before, but god bless the CBA and the “salary cap floor” to eliminate those “youngry” shenanigans.
February 27th, 2023 at 10:20 am
Those preseason numbers are against third string defense!!!!!
February 27th, 2023 at 10:21 am
And with 3-4th string teammates?
Did Trask play with the 1’s yet, did I miss that?
February 27th, 2023 at 10:26 am
Let us not forget Tom Brady’s first two years as a NE starter. 46 TD’s and 26 picks. Many of you instant gratification types would’ve been running the guy out of town if that happened here.
Not everyone lights the league on fire ala Patrick Mahomes. In fact, nobody has had that level of early success but him. It took two years for Josh Allen to mature.
Give the kid a break. If he sucks, so be it. At least he comes cheap and will give the Bucs a year to get out of salary cap hell.
Even retired, according to Jenna Lane of ESPN, Brady will have a cap hit of 35 million this year. She also claims the Bucs are currently 55 million over the cap and will need to make cuts in the near future.
So … all of you who are begging for a F.A. signing, please tell me where the money will come from to pay him.
February 27th, 2023 at 10:28 am
I guess that’s what they drafted him for because the front office knew they kicked a big can down the road ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯.
There are two possible outcomes:
1. Trask shines – everyone (outside of the inevitable haters) is happy
2. Trask stinks – we draft high enough to grab another ‘QB of the future’ – everyone (outside of ‘Camp Trask’) is happy.
It’s impossible that Trask shines? Who knows? A QB drafted 199 overall seemed to be quite good and Mr. Irrelevant just took his team to the NFCCG.
February 27th, 2023 at 10:29 am
I’m convinced that none of us have any idea how well Trask will do this year. I do believe however that 2 preseason ‘opportunities to excel with Walmart greeters’ don’t tell me a danged thing. Does the fact that he had a 59.0% completion rate tell us more about Trask or about his camp meat receivers? Does his 9.6% sack rate tell us that he’s slow processing & lacks mobility or that his 4th string OLine didn’t know how to pass block?
I remember Ronnie Reagan’s ‘Trust but verify’ position, and I go along with that 100%. Trask deserves a REAL shot to run with the big dogs (Brady & BA were never gonna promote him to #2). But while he gets that to see IF he can EARN the starting QB position, let’s make sure that we have TWO other QBs waiting in the wings … just in case the baby bird can’t fly or even possibly gets injured. WE NEED DEPTH, at QB & in all position groups.
February 27th, 2023 at 10:36 am
Dooley, correct. I was actually also going to use that situation to augment my stance. You don’t first buy a coach for millions in cash and valuable draft picks, and then jettison that same coach, paying him the balance of the contract if you are cheap. Smart? Perhaps not, but certainly not cheap. They did what they felt they had to do at that point in time.
February 27th, 2023 at 10:45 am
Lock knows the offense and was beaten out by the Comeback Player of the Year and Pro Bowler. That’s hardly a knock.
February 27th, 2023 at 10:47 am
I remember once upon a time there was a contingent of Blue Eyes White Dragon fanboys. We repetitively said Glennon wasn’t the answer but we were told to pipe down because the organization’s messiah had come.
So yeah Trask has only played 2 series of offense and we don’t know what we have, but seriously is he worse a prospect than Glennon who was gifted the starting job and then played the Bucs into the first overall pick?
Come on. I’m also old enough to remember that even though Bucs went 2-14 and Glennon couldn’t beat out 35 year old Josh McCown there were still delusional hacks telling everyone Glennon was the guy.
But 3 years of Brady and now everyone has seen the light? PLEASE.
I think we all know by no ow Arians is a “pay your dues” guy who rewards loyalty and takes care of his guys. He took care of Bowles. He took care of Leftwich. He took care of Gabbert. The backup QB role was to have eyes and ears. Tom Brady was the guy written in stone. Trask hadn’t paid his dues. He wasn’t a vet. Arians and company weren’t going to make him Tom Brady’s eyes and ears guy. It is what it is.
We don’t know what we’re going to get in 2023. Its an unknown. But it’s safe to say this is a cap reset rebuild year. There are still some good players here so we’ll see. .The division is attainable. If Trask stinks up the field as Ryan Clark said there are options. As a fan I’m looking for the Bucs to trend upward second half of the season. Reasonably set expectations would be there are growing pains, but we see good indicators and progressive improvement and maybe be a dangerous football team at the end of the year.
February 27th, 2023 at 10:48 am
Joe mentions training camp hiccups but conveniently forgets to mention the preseason games, where Trask looked good in 2 of the 3 games (playing with bartenders, of course). See his quarterback ratings below.
KYLE TRASK PRESEASON 2022 QUARTERBACK RTGs
Bucs v Dolphins: 95.3
Bucs v Colts: 99.6
February 27th, 2023 at 10:54 am
All the geniuses trashing Trask now were bigly on Justin Fields (same 2021 draft class as Trask) and whose 79.7 RTG has the Bears looking him to dump the bust and draft a new quarterback.
February 27th, 2023 at 10:58 am
@BucBoy
Trask to Jerreth Sterns for the TD against Miami was a beautiful play. Getting more looks like that from Trask this offseason would be ideal, but I still won’t him to compete against at least 1 or 2 more QBs for the job. That’s all I’m against in terms of finding our new QB, is just giving the job to somebody who has no regular season resume or limited experience. Let them all fight it out
February 27th, 2023 at 11:03 am
“In Denver, Lock lost his starting gig to Jeff Driskel.”
Gators QB Jeff Dirskel is still in the NFL? LMAO. He had a gun but was, shall we say, not great?
February 27th, 2023 at 11:09 am
@Dooley
Absolutely. Everyone has to earn their job. However, these haters here – whether they are FSU fanbois, wokers, just plain dumb, or all three (most are all three) – don’t want to see the kid on the field with the starters. They’re afraid he’s going to make them look like the keyboard fools they are.
February 27th, 2023 at 11:11 am
Yes, BucBoy, exactly. Some won’t give the kid a chance and I am calling out their obtuse perception of buccaneer fandom. Thanks l!
February 27th, 2023 at 11:25 am
Hopefully Canales is a great QB whisperer and can get top production out of Trask
IN SPITE OF being stifled by a bobo HC!
February 27th, 2023 at 11:30 am
How many more articles are we going to be bored with, writing about the QB situation? Good Lord, we want something else. All this hand wringing is geeting old.
February 27th, 2023 at 11:30 am
Trask had a better College Career in only 20 games than Jameis had in his 24!
February 27th, 2023 at 11:45 am
If we are going to start Trask, I hate to say this but, we better have a short leash if he is a stinker.
We have a capable team that can produce on Offense, so tanking, hopefully isn’t an option. Have a good back-up, probably Blaine Gabbert, he loves playing here. Sign a third stringer, maybe a draft pick and run with it. But at least if Trask stinks up Raymond James, the second stringer could win some games with our new coordinator. I am not in favor of tanking for a rookie quarterback without good players around him. It is very difficult to win in this league consistently year in and year out.
February 27th, 2023 at 11:48 am
SB Says: “Trask had a better College Career in only 20 games than Jameis had in his 24!”
And Trask faced SEC opponents; Jameis played in the weakling ACC.
February 27th, 2023 at 11:55 am
PewterStiffArm Says: “If we are going to start Trask, we better have a short leash if he is a stinker.”
Why? Given the fact that the GOAT went 8-9 last season with this supposed great team you describe, the team is likely 4-13 last season with a journeyman quarterback. So, how many games do you reasonably expect Trask to win with this team in his first season? Give us a number.
February 27th, 2023 at 12:00 pm
No information in this, just speculation.
February 27th, 2023 at 12:23 pm
Good Ols…ck…maybe issue on LT
Draft more TE and Rb
3great Wrs ( if Gage still with us)
Run with White and Vaugh
KT2 might be fine..( He had to learn a thing or two from the Goat himself.
February 27th, 2023 at 12:24 pm
At some point as a team, you have to pull the trigger on a young QB to see what they got. There is no better time than now for the Bucs to do that with Trask, as the next few years we’ll be rebuilding. If Trask fails, oh well, higher draft pick. If he succeeds, then we got a franchise QB and don’t have to worry about drafting another one.
February 27th, 2023 at 12:25 pm
LOL LOL LOL
I love all the attempted “Stat Analysis” on Kyle Trask and his pre-season and regular season play so far.
The guy hasn’t been in with all starters yet. Anyone that watched him play in pre-season saw how bad his 3rd string Bucs O-Line let him down and how the protection collapsed on him immediately on almost every play. Even Bowles commented that it wasn’t his fault.
Give the guy a chance to play with the starters and then and only then judge the guy as an NFL QB.
February 27th, 2023 at 12:25 pm
Trask put up big numbers with Pitts, Toney, and a limited Run Game @ Florida. Hard to believe that Evans and Godwin are not an upgrade. He will be fine.
February 27th, 2023 at 12:33 pm
ButtBoy apparently is clueless that teams have 53 players on the active regular season roster. None of them wants a tank job, nor does their head coich who has already logged four losing seasons in a row. If Trashk plays to the top of his potential, he probably will still suck. As he has so far for the Bucs, whether in practice, in preseason, or against the Fowlclowns, and all the coaches have seen this and have evaluated him accordingly. Barely able to beat out Ryan Griffin for QB3. ButtBoy really must think there’s an evil conspiracy to hold back his poster child for late night fantasy activity.
Bowels makes no change and accepts a big losing season, good luck going for 6 losers in a row as HC. Blowes is fired. Unlikely Blowes wants to be fired, as much as we’d love him to be. No way there isn’t a veteran and another youngster, at least, in camp to compete for the job. No way Blowes just anoints the Trashkan without ButtBoy’s fantasy earning it.
Hard to imagine who can’t beat out Trashk on the depth chart if Ryan Griffin almost did.
But ButtBoy keeps hoping and smearing Joe’s dialogue boxes with single player love. It’s cute in an embarrassing sort of way.
February 27th, 2023 at 12:40 pm
Goat,
How is Trask playing “tanking”?
You say, “if trash plays to the top of his potential, he will probably still suck”.
Define your personal assessment and outcome of “will probably still suck”? And, have you ever had another JBF.com username before? I don’t see your name around more than 8-9+ years?
Go Bucs!
February 27th, 2023 at 12:42 pm
Let Trask compete and I have no problem with him being the starter if he earned it against other competition.
February 27th, 2023 at 12:43 pm
Joe, please stop with the Bull spit narrative that there is something wrong with turning to a guy with three career completions. Teams draft and immediately start rookies all of the time. Jameis winston had zero career completions before the Bucs drafted him and made him the starter. You didn’t have a problem with that now did ya ?
February 27th, 2023 at 12:44 pm
Goat,
And the reason I asked the username change question is bc I truly believe some commenters change names bc their tales are too tired and they can’t proudly own being “wrong”.
IMHO, I wish Joe would include some form of coding “IP Commentor #1234”, where it wouldn’t show the IP, but creates a transactional code. I think some people troll extra hard, and then can’t own it, so they change their username and continue to be wrong lol.
February 27th, 2023 at 12:46 pm
Buc1987,
What’s up dude? I remember our spirited debates on jOsh Freeman. And then Jameis. Cheers to you and yours, and may we continue to chime in on the best Bucs site in all the land.
February 27th, 2023 at 12:48 pm
@Buc1987 If we drafted a QB in the first round , Would you want him to have to compete for a Job, or would you just assume that because he was drafted in the first round, that he is the bona fide starter ? Teams draft and start rookie QBs all
of the time without them having to compete for the starting Job. What’s the problem going ahead and appointing Trask the starter after sitting behind Brady for two years.
February 27th, 2023 at 12:59 pm
Me thinks…Kyle Trask is a winner, BUCS are lucky…he can get the job done
February 27th, 2023 at 12:59 pm
SteveK…some of those debates were epic.
Jameis especially. smh
February 27th, 2023 at 1:03 pm
@SteveK
I like the IP address code idea. I’m still of the belief that NDog is still lurking around in here.
February 27th, 2023 at 1:07 pm
Steve K… absolutely 💯
February 27th, 2023 at 1:07 pm
Smooth…I’m actually 50-50 on him starting anyways because I think this season is going to suck either way and we’ll have a whole new coaching staff.
We don’t call the shots perhaps Trask is ready.
I’m glad I don’t have season tickets anymore though….
I watched Glennon during his rookie year and that’s about where I see Trask a hair better than Mike Glennon!
February 27th, 2023 at 1:12 pm
Nice to see so many informed, rational Bucs fans come out of the woodwork lately. This place has been a cesspool of ignorant Trask haters until recently.
Speaking of which, where is Rod Munch? He’s been a yuge Trask hater this past year, and I haven’t seen him posting since things seemingly turned toward Trask. Did he change his moniker?
February 27th, 2023 at 1:13 pm
Buc1987 a hair better? The college stats are worlds apart. We haven’t gotten a real look at Trask under center during meaningful games yet so there isn’t a comparison to make.
February 27th, 2023 at 1:13 pm
I do not understand the idea of Drew Lock even being in the conversation. Who is for this?
I’ve heard Drew Lock described as Jameis Winston, just without the production and good qualities.
February 27th, 2023 at 1:14 pm
Welp, im reading we’re going after baker mayfield….dont know if i want that since im sure hes gonna cost more than i want to see us spend…
February 27th, 2023 at 1:16 pm
Buc1987 Says: “I watched Glennon during his rookie year and that’s about where I see Trask a hair better than Mike Glennon!”
FACT: Glennon played 13 games his rookie season with the first team.
FACT: Trask has taken precisely 0 snaps with the first team.
So, having established that you have no factual basis whatsoever for your negative opinion of Trask, are you an FSU fanboi, a woker, or just plain dumb?
P.S. Feel free to select all three!
February 27th, 2023 at 1:19 pm
BucBoy Noles fanboys got their Jameis and we all rallied despite the crablegs (and other) Tomfoolery that suggested he wasn’t the best decision maker.
Now a Gator is ready to take the helm and the peeps are so salty. Its comical.
February 27th, 2023 at 1:21 pm
Mike S – I have nothing against Trask personally, and I hope he gets the starting job and the Bucs go into full tank mode… but college production? That doesn’t mean much when you’re throwing low velocity rainbow passes. That’s Trask top issue – while he can throw deep, he doesn’t naturally drive the ball. In college you can get away with that, in the NFL, there’s no QB who has ever been successful doing that. With that said Trask improved, a little, in terms of velocity, and clearly has the arm to throw with velocity, but in his limited snaps, you can see it’s not natural for him to whip the ball into places. In the preseason, he’d start out the games fine, driving the ball, but the second he got into trouble, it was back to softball cupcake passes, and in real games, those are going to be turnovers, really bad ones.
Again, nothing against Trask, I hope he can make that leap he needs to make and to prove the Bucs didn’t waste a key draft pick on him when they could have taken another weapon for Brady, or another offensive lineman, etc.
But there’s absolutely nothing I’ve seen from Trask that makes me think he’s going to be successful. However, I’m totally for giving him every chance this year and seeing what we got.
February 27th, 2023 at 1:21 pm
I have to prepare myself mentally if we’re going to take on Baker. the Skip Haynes baggage alone will be rough to deal with.
February 27th, 2023 at 1:24 pm
Why are all the Kyle Trask fans so opposed to bringing in competition? If he’s as good as you all think, it shouldn’t be an issue. He should be able to handle some competition from Mayfield, Gabbert or Brissett. Drew Lock is not legit competition.
As for teams starting Rookie QBs drafted high – they’re usually in year one of a multiyear rebuild, with rookies and journeymen everywhere. High tolerance for growing pains. That is not the current state of the Bucs. There’s solid pieces everywhere – oline, receivers, defense. Add in a coach who is most definitely on the hot seat, and I can guarantee you no QB is getting a long leash. There’s no way Bowles is gonna let Trask throw away games ‘figuring things out’.
February 27th, 2023 at 1:25 pm
@Mike S
Spot on. Some here have called Bucs fans the dumbest in the NFL and I have a hard time disagreeing. 😛
February 27th, 2023 at 1:30 pm
BucBoy…I watched both of them play in college too. Glennon and Trask.
Hilarious take from a guy who wanted to bench Brady the goat in favor of Trask at near midseason…..talk about a fanboy.
February 27th, 2023 at 1:30 pm
Stormy Says:
February 27th, 2023 at 1:24 pm
Why are all the Kyle Trask fans so opposed to bringing in competition?
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I’m not a Trask fan, and I’m against bringing in outsiders. The entire point of going with Trask this year is that he’s a super cheap option and you need to clean up the cap. If you bring in some garbage vet like Baker, or God forbid, Brissett, all you’re doing is screwing up the cap in 2024 since any of those guys are going to make over $10m, and the Bucs will have to use void years or some other trick to push that money into next year.
Nah, just let Trask sink or swim on his own. Lets see what we have, and if he’s a disaster (which I assume he will be) then that’s OK. At the end of the year you fire all the coaches, and you got a top draft pick where you can take a real QB, and your cap issues are gone.
The worst thing is to give some loser like Baker $15m (which is what he’ll likely get), all against next years cap, and him and Trask spilt starts, so you still don’t know what you have in Trask, and the team is 6-11 and you miss out on the good QBs next year. That would be awful.
February 27th, 2023 at 1:32 pm
Stormy Says: “Why are all the Kyle Trask fans so opposed to bringing in competition?”
Have never hear that.
Although, quarterbacks are all the time selected as the starter without competition. When Brett Favre left the Packers, Aaron Rodgers was anointed the starter. Ther was no open competition held.
The better question is why don’t the haters want Trask to be given his first snap with the first team? Why don’t you ask that question? Better yet, why don’t you answer it?
February 27th, 2023 at 1:35 pm
Stormy they aren’t going with one QB on the roster so they are going to bring in QBs and if they are doing their jobs they are going to bring in the best guys they can (at their budget). Brissett hasn’t been a world beater. Baker is somewhat intriguing, but if he doesn’t start he’ll get disruptive. Gabbert is like Brissett except his advantage was he knew BA’s offense and that no longer applies.
I think the Bucs are thinking fiscal responsibility here and cap. The money they have for the QB room isn’t there in 2023.
February 27th, 2023 at 1:35 pm
My opinion doesn’t have to matter to anyone. Especially on JBF.
It is just that… an opinion….that ain’t never going to change either.
February 27th, 2023 at 1:37 pm
Rod Munch or you get a franchise QB at a controlled price. Win-win.
February 27th, 2023 at 1:37 pm
Munch,
Totally agree with you on letting our QB situation play out, and draft some competition if need be.
I am it for purgatory with a mid-range QB, eating up around 10% of our cap, when we could home grow our own QB and only pay them if they’re the truth.
February 27th, 2023 at 1:38 pm
Buc1987 – You can’t really take anything away from Trask’s college tape as all he did was throw rainbow cupcake passes. He’s had to completely relearn how to drive the ball. Meanwhile Glennon had a much more NFL-ready arm. Not that Glennon had a good arm, but it was good enough.
Trask, meanwhile, throws those lovely college rainbow passes like another Florida QB, Danny Wuerffel. When I was younger, and I was a Florida/Spurrier fan, I thought for sure Wuerffel would be successful in the NFL because he was so ridiculously accurate. He’s the one that taught me the NFL isn’t about accuracy, not if you can’t drive the ball. Trask has to show he can drive the ball, with accuracy, under pressure. That’s what we haven’t seen at all from him.
February 27th, 2023 at 1:39 pm
Glennon was not anointed, Freeman imploded for the world to see. It was freeman that let himself and the Bucs down.
Glennon was a third round backup QB, thrust in there bc the starter was so damn bad.
February 27th, 2023 at 1:44 pm
SteveK Says:
February 27th, 2023 at 1:39 pm
Glennon was not anointed, Freeman imploded for the world to see. It was freeman that let himself and the Bucs down.
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I disagree. Fat Freeman was a great young QB. Then the Bucs made a huge mistake in drafting that Jersey Trash Schiano, who just came in an ruined him. Remember that Freeman was a huge, mobile QB, made a lot of Big Ben like plays running the ball in big situations, and what did Schiano do, literally made him year knee braces to reduce his mobility and make him stand in the pocket, when he was at his best moving and making plays. Then you had Schiano leaking his medical records, etc. Schiano was such a piece of trash. Had he not drove Freeman to drugs, Freeman would still be playing today (he’s still just 35).
February 27th, 2023 at 1:44 pm
BucBoy the people that unironically posted “Blue Eyes White Dragon” in a supportive manner on any message board at any time need to sit this conversation out.
February 27th, 2023 at 1:46 pm
Buc1987 Says: “Hilarious take from a guy who wanted to bench Brady the goat in favor of Trask at near midseason”
Complete, absolute lie from a complete, absolute liar.
I never thought Brady should be “benched” in favor of Trask. You obviously don’t even know what the word “benched” means in football.
What I did think was that given the obvious (to me) fact that last season was going to be an utter waste and we were going to win zilch, Trask should be given some playing time in a few games with the first team, so we wouldn’t end the season knowing nothing about him. Once again, I was right, and geniuses like you were wrong. We ended the season 8-10, knowing nothing about Trask as he never took a snap with the first team, and we are going into the draft having no idea whatsoever whether the quarterback position is even a priority! That’s insane!
It’s stupid comments like yours that lead many to call Bucs fans the dumbest in the NFL.
February 27th, 2023 at 1:52 pm
I was the one who called most Bucs fans stupid and said so on this site TEN years ago. BucBoy you qualify as one of those fans.
Change your name to something else after Trask sucks it up.
February 27th, 2023 at 1:53 pm
Rod,
Fat freeman was an absolute boss! The 25-6 TD-INT ratio. And imho, he was a touch bigger/more athletic than Ben.
I am not sure how Schiano could have ruined him, and feel that Freeman should have done more to succeed, even in spite of Schiano.
I can say Schiano was lot a good fit and he may have not jived with players’ mentality, but he didn’t force Freeman’s fall
From grace.
I was pretty sad when we needed to bench freeman bc, I agree with you, he was Big Ben-like.
February 27th, 2023 at 1:55 pm
What I like about Trask:
– had to wait to be called on every time and always did well when called upon.
-calm demeanor
-touch on the ball.
-being able to put up points
Wha to dislike;
-not a mobile QB
-better footwork
-hopefully better use of body for zip on ball
I am excited to see him get his shot. I think, after two years, he will see the game and hopefully be on time with the ball.
February 27th, 2023 at 1:57 pm
Long winded posts about nothing but love for Kyle Trask…..yikes!
February 27th, 2023 at 1:59 pm
Rod Munch really Schiano drove Freeman to drugs? That’s quite the hot take. Seriously, Schiano did many unorthodox (stupid) things but he wasn’t responsible for Freeman’s implosion. Dude got caught up in the Trampa Bay night life and wrecked himself. It happens and no need to wring your hands about it years (and a super bowl title) later.
If anything embrace that we’re going to have a younger team and a new generation of players incoming. Hopefully the front office manages the transition properly and we get a competitive football team.
February 27th, 2023 at 2:01 pm
1987,
Do you not want to see Trask get a shot?
And, if not, can you please explain why?
February 27th, 2023 at 2:01 pm
I cheered for Glennon too!
February 27th, 2023 at 2:02 pm
Buc1987 (Macho Man Randy Savage Voice) “You don’t have to like it, but accept it”
The Kyle Trask era has begun.
February 27th, 2023 at 2:02 pm
Buc1987 BLUE EYES WHITE DRAGON!!
February 27th, 2023 at 2:04 pm
SteveK…I want to see competition. If not then I suppose I’d have to be stuck cheering for this kid too.
February 27th, 2023 at 2:05 pm
Hilarious Mike S.
February 27th, 2023 at 2:20 pm
There goes Rod Munch again, babbling about Trask throwing “rainbow” passes.
First, Rod, you may not know this, but Trask played in the SEC, the fastest conference by far in college football. Trask would not have had 43 TDs to 8 INTs in 2020 if there was even a scintilla of truth in what you say.
Second, Rod, apparently you don’t understand that just as there are different pitches in baseball, there are different throws in football. The football throw required depends on many factors, including the distance to the receiver, the directional movement of the receiver, the coverage the receiver is under, etc. A receiver deep down field covered like a blanket is going to see a high arching ball timed to drop in his hands. Yes, a “rainbow”. Tom Brady threw many beautiful arching “rainbows”. Even the ol’ gunslinger himself, Brett “67 mph” Favre, threw beautiful arching rainbows. Search “Brett Favre’s 50 Longest Touchdown Passes” on YouTube and check out that first throw: a beautiful arching “rainbow” for a 55 yard TD.
Third, to the extent you are implying Trask lacks velocity (you are), the NFL (and the Bucs coaches) completely disagree with you. Trask’s scouting profile on NFL.Com states:
“TRASK CLEARLY HAS THE ARM STRENGTH. CAN DELIVER DEEP THROWS WITH OUTSTANDING TOUCH. PROTOTYPICAL SIZE TO STAND TALL AND FIRE FROM THE POCKET. ARM STRENGTH TO WHIP FIELD-SIDE DEEP OUTS WITH NO ISSUES. CAN ATTACK ONE-ON-ONES AND PLACE DEEP THROW WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO. ACCURATE EVEN WHEN FEET ARE NOT SET. FIRST FBS QUARTERBACK IN 15 YEARS TO POST 3 OR MORE TD PASSES IN 9 CONSECUTIVE GAMES.”
Tell us, Rod. You never played football, did you?
February 27th, 2023 at 2:29 pm
@Buc1987
I took you to the cleaners above responding to your inane comparison of Glennon and Trask. Why don’t you reply with something other than calling me names? Is that all you got? What are you? A fifth grade dropout?
February 27th, 2023 at 2:31 pm
come on
Trask is probably an amazing person
this team is getting a FA QB and drafting another one to back up the vet
Trask is not the answer
February 27th, 2023 at 2:33 pm
Son of Trask having his daily melt down. If they want him to start he will. If he succeeds fine. If not on to the next QB. Anything anyone says on this site says means nothing Beany Surfer Boy. They do not control the Bucs management. And neither do you. They will make the final decisions and if nobody likes it to bad.
February 27th, 2023 at 2:39 pm
EEK,
How do you know Trask is not the answer?
February 27th, 2023 at 2:40 pm
Did you see the Ex-Raiders linebacker that quit and made more money selling Pokemon cards? Trask might make more money (off of BucsBoy and Rand, anyway) quitting and starting an Onlyf@ns deal.
Hahaha, just kidding.
February 27th, 2023 at 2:47 pm
Let Trask get snaps with the first team in preseason as part of a legitimate competition. That is what I am saying.
What little we have seen of Trask hasn’t been exactly awe inspiring. And yes, limited sample size but still…
For the record, I hope he does win a battle for the job., but it should be a battle. I just don’t think it should be handed to him, nor do I think the competition should be nothing but schlubs like Drew Lock, either. That proves nothing. At least one of the veteran signings should be someone with a decent amount of starting experience.
I’m not a fan of conceding a season before it starts, either. Too much talent on this roster for that.
Personally, if the Bucs were just gonna throw the year away by anointing Trask, they should have just canned Bowles, too, and let a new coaching staff – one that isn’t on the hot seat – experiment. Bowles won’t. Any QB he starts will be on a short leash, be it Gabbert, Trask, Mayfield or “Door Number 99”.
February 27th, 2023 at 2:56 pm
Oh and one question- define ‘get his shot’.
To me, that means an honest chance in training camp and preseason to prove he’s ready. Heck, he has a head start now if he’s working with Canales before they bring in anyone else.
February 27th, 2023 at 3:07 pm
These comments are entertaining. Look how bored we all are.
Bottom line unless there is a dramatic change of heart by the Bucs FO Kyle Trask is going to get his shot. The hedge against that is a high draft pick in 2024 and a new coach – which many people want. Its a total no-brainer.
The only person it sucks for is Todd Bowles, but he coached his way into this mess so now he gets to pin his HC career on the arm of a young QB with no regular season game NFL experience. Its kind of what he deserves for being the coach that knocked Tom Brady into retirement.
Meanwhile what does it mean for Kyle Trask? Well it’s a not great situation because what happens if/when this team flops? Won’t be good for him either through little fault of his own. Whether or not this team is good Trask has to make a statement in 2023. No pressure kid. Then again this is the NFL and you have to perform to stay. The table is set so it’s time to make it happen. Getting a showcase season is more than many can say.
February 27th, 2023 at 3:23 pm
Whatever Trask might have shown or not shown could have been more about an incompetent OC.
This season will be different. We appear to have an OC who can cater the scheme to accentuate what Trask does well. It might be the first time that he will be working with someone with his interests at heart.
His college coach, Mullen, was horrid and the offense was built for a mobile QB.
His first pro OC couldn’t scheme enough to get his receivers open, or get his linemen to support a run game.
This should be a good show, one way or the other.
I’ll hold onto the hope that it will work, until proven otherwise.
February 27th, 2023 at 3:27 pm
Is it safe to say, No superbowl in our upcoming near future? I think so. Just have a few Libations before every game Buc fans. You are gonna need’em.
February 27th, 2023 at 3:33 pm
Yes – barring a miracle, I’m pretty sure all Buc fans are gonna need liquid painkillers this season.
February 27th, 2023 at 4:12 pm
The only throws I saw Kyle Trask make were not NFL quality. Would do better to get a cheap professional backup type than waste everyone’s time with someone who cannot make professional throws.
February 27th, 2023 at 4:14 pm
Carson Wentz was just cut from the Redskins…
I wonder if he would work for the league minimum salary plus incentives?
Let him and Trask compete for the gig. Then add Stetson Bennett in the 5th round…
I know I’m going to get heat for this but beggars can’t be choosers.
February 27th, 2023 at 4:15 pm
Joe, time to stop twisting stories around to dump on Trask. He has done everything asked of him. You always leave out the most important details when analyzing Trask. You say he couldn’t do better than competing for third string but we all know that was exactly the role the team wanted for him the past two years. No matter how good he was they were always going to have Brady as the starter with a veteran that Brady felt comfortable working with as the backup. Period! You throw his less than stellar preseason stats around but leave out the important fact that he was playing along side players who soon after were on the unemployment line. Still don’t understand your continued hating on him.
February 27th, 2023 at 4:17 pm
Get ready for blackouts. (If we’re lucky) No one wants to see the Tampa Bay Traskaneers! The new Trent Dilfer!
February 27th, 2023 at 4:33 pm
James Patrick Reilly Says: “The only throws I saw Kyle Trask make were not NFL quality.”
Riiight. That’s why in the Dolphins and Colts preseason games he had very good quarterback ratings:
KYLE TRASK PRESEASON 2022 QUARTERBACK RTG
Bucs v Dolphins: 95.3
Bucs v Colts: 99.6
That last RTG in the Colts game – 99.6 – was significantly higher than the RTGs of both Gabbert AND Brady.
You wouldn’t happen to be an FSU fanboi, would you?
February 27th, 2023 at 5:10 pm
Rod Munch,
Posting that Trask “can’t drive the ball” 1,000 times still doesn’t make it true. You keep posting this unsubstantiated claim. You either saw some inaccurate pre-draft pundit write this or you yourself just have formed that opinion.
Either way, it’s 100% UNTRUE. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers scouting department and office brass isn’t using a 2nd round pick to draft a QB prospect that “can’t drive the ball.” Don’t be ridiculous.
In the limited action Trask had in the pre-season, he threw several mid-range strikes. So this “can’t drive the ball” fallacy is completely UNTRUE.
You obviously didn’t watch him play at Florida.
Go to YouTube and search for “Kyle Trask highlights” and watch the “Kyle Trask | 2020 Highlights” video.
While he does throw many soft, deep, accurate passes (because the routes were designed that way) you can see he throws many “hard, driving passes” as well.
For example, watch the pass to Toney at 3:55 of the video. That’s a high velocity pass that travels almost 40 yards in the air that’s thrown hard and on a fast, low trajectory. That’s a solid NFL-route quality pass.
That video shows plenty of “driving” passes that aren’t just “rainbow” throws. So stop the NONSENSE of your 100% inaccurate claims about his arm.
February 27th, 2023 at 5:16 pm
CONTINUED…
By contrast, look up Brady’s top Buccaneer Highlights video on YouTube. Many of his mid-range to deep passes ARE rainbow, soft touch, accurate passes. Similar to the ones Trask also threw a lot of at Florida; along with harder, lower driving throws seen in the Trask highlight video.
Trask has a lot stronger arm strength than you give him credit for.
February 27th, 2023 at 5:53 pm
Kyle stares his target down. It’s not always but it happens. It happens because at times, he cannot process the game fast enough. Now , Canales did mention that they would dumb the game down for Trask so he doesn’t have to process the read option into an already overloaded brain. Fine, but don’t just give the job to Kyle. The BUCS are going to to bring in at least two more qb’s for the roster and I’m really looking forward to all three getting a shot at qb1 position. If that happens, our starter will not be Kyke Trask. We will see
February 27th, 2023 at 5:56 pm
Dang!…this endless Trask speculation has led me to divination, as an answer. Working on various anagrams for the name “Kyle Trask”, the name “Star Lekky” appeared. Lekky is Aussie slang for an electrician. Does this mean Kyle will be a Star and light up the stadium in 2023 with glorious rainbow passes?… or just blow an fuse?
Hmmm… thought I was on to something, but maybe not. Perhaps, one of you guys could try numerology (other than stats). Maybe some of SteveK’s Red Bull and the I Ching can divine, if Trask will succeed or not.
Kyle, if you read this… come down to Sarasota for dinner one night – my femme fatale is pretty good diviner with the Tarot and could let you know your future. For example, she doesn’t know anything about football, but could divine the Bucs would run it up the middle or left on first down in 2022. Oh wait, guess everyone could.
February 27th, 2023 at 6:13 pm
Don’t understand why anyone would think Trask would be #2 on game day last year. Gabbert is obviously who Brady wanted at #2. And it makes sense if we stop and think about it for about 5 seconds. Trask is better than Gabbert, but not as experienced when it comes to backup duties on game day. It really is that simple folks.
February 27th, 2023 at 6:51 pm
#TrustInTrask
February 27th, 2023 at 6:54 pm
ABucAway,
ROFLMAO. “…cannot process the game fast enough.”
Get of here with that garbage!
He didn’t break records at Florida and have a very high completion rate because he only stared down receivers and couldn’t process the speed of the game. That’s absurd.
February 27th, 2023 at 7:00 pm
Trask will get you the number 1 pick in 2024.
February 27th, 2023 at 7:11 pm
Once upon a time, a long long time ago, the Bucs turned to an unknown QB by the name Randy Hedberg. Whynot Minot, we asked. Well, why not Trask
February 27th, 2023 at 7:16 pm
SteveK / Mike S – If you had to work directly under Schiano, believe me, you’d turn to a life of drugs as well.
Freeman needed a babysitter to take care of him until he finished growing up, and instead he got a drill sergeant who told him not to do what he did best, don’t be a playmaker, don’t improvise, instead stand in the pocket like a statue, also clean up your room, eat all your vegetables, cut your hair, etc. Not to say Freeman wasn’t at fault, he was clearly a mental lightweight, but the Bucs really screwed up by picking the worst type of coach. Had the Bucs got a players coach, or a mentor style coach (like Dungy), I think he goes down a completely different path. No way of knowing, of course.
February 27th, 2023 at 7:20 pm
Trask To The Future – In the limited action Trask had in the pre-season, he threw several mid-range strikes. So this “can’t drive the ball” fallacy is completely UNTRUE.
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I literally said he showed some progress in the preseason and did, in fact, throw with velocity. I said he CAN do it, the issue, in limited snaps, is that as the game progresses and when he gets in trouble, he reverts back to his cupcake passes.
I’ve literally wrote all that stuff many times.
Anywho, sweetheart, here’s the deal. I’m saying I WANT him to play. Lets see what we have. The fact you triggered Florida fanbois are arguing with everyone, including the people who want him playing, just shows what insecure retards you all are. If he plays and looks good, then fantastic! We got a QB. If he plays and looks awful, which I expect, then fantastic, we get a top draft pick. Either way, I’m wanting to see what we have, and if your boi comes through, then great.
February 27th, 2023 at 7:28 pm
Title of article should be:
Poor Man’s Mike Glennon? The Kyle Trask Error.
February 27th, 2023 at 7:34 pm
And someone get ButtBoy a new crate of catch rags. The number of batches pulled over a soon-to-be rental car franchise owner is embarrassing.
February 27th, 2023 at 7:36 pm
@Trask to the Future
Great job taking Rod Munch to the woodshed. He once admitted (and I quote) “I hate all Gators”. Which means of course he never saw Trask play. If he did, it was the FSU game, which means he’s an FSU fan and that explains his incessant unsubstantiated rants against Trask. What a tool.
February 27th, 2023 at 7:38 pm
Oh look. Goathumper is back with his conclusory drivel bereft of facts. Another tool.
February 27th, 2023 at 7:50 pm
I wouldn’t anoint Trashk the starter yet. All our gator fan friends here forgot he couldn’t actually beat anyone out for the job it took injuries to get him on the field. there a goop possibility he can’t win the starting job vs whatever stiff the Bucs bring in to compete. Bowles might be getting a raw deal here, ownership is starting to look like their in tank mode. A year from now they’ll be drafting their new QB with their new HC.
February 27th, 2023 at 8:05 pm
Trask has not been impressive in preseason
There is literally zero buzz
In his 1 appearance in a real game he struggled to complete a single pass
That doesn’t project to a 17 game starter and leader of an NFL franchise — of course my speculation
I would short the Trask stock option
February 27th, 2023 at 8:14 pm
Fact: ButtBoy has chronic dehydration over his “vigorous excitement” about Glennon-without-the-neck.
February 27th, 2023 at 8:44 pm
Iron Wombat Says: “All our gator fan friends here forgot Trask couldn’t actually beat anyone out for the job it took injuries to get him on the field.”
100% wrong. He beat out Feleipe Franks in 2019 and started several games before sustaining a leg injury that sidelined him.
You FSU fanbois get dumber every day.
😂
February 27th, 2023 at 8:48 pm
@EEK
In the Falcons game Trask played only the last two series, and with scrubs. Despite that, he managed a first down – by throwing. You know what else? Gabbert, who played the entire second half except for Trask’s two series at the end of the game, failed to get a single first down in the second half. Not one first down in the second half. Suck on that lollipop.
February 27th, 2023 at 8:49 pm
Trask To the Bench- “He didn’t break records at Florida and have a very high completion rate because he only stared down receivers and couldn’t process the speed of the game. That’s absurd.”
Absurd indeed! That’s your straw man over there playing with matches. You go warm up with it and I’ll stick to to what I said.
He stares down his receiver at times. That happens. Whether he is not processing fast enough (what I think, even prior to Clyde mentioning Kyle being ‘deliberate’), or he could be staring at a knat and his nose. Whenever I see it happen I just imagine him with that Beavis and Butt-Head thing going with drool drinking from the right side of his mouth. “Uuuuhhhhhhh”
February 27th, 2023 at 8:50 pm
Dribbling*
February 27th, 2023 at 9:09 pm
So the ButtGirl argument is , Trask sucks a tiny bit less than Goobert.
February 27th, 2023 at 9:18 pm
I sat through the 0-8 at home season, it was painful being in the stands for that. A winning 2023 season would be great. But if we’re gonna suffer through a losing one I hope they try to make it interesting. Baker Mayfield should be available cheap. Sign him so it’s a genuine training camp battle for the job. If Trask fails under pressure it would be better to find that out in pre-season than regular season. Mayfield is a wild card for sure but he would make things interesting, lol one way or another.
February 27th, 2023 at 10:15 pm
Way too many immature weenies posing as Buc fans on this site.
Apparently many here take there marching orders from the ringleader Goatfarmer
February 27th, 2023 at 10:26 pm
Yeah, Randork. You got it. I’m ringworm leader. You’re ButtGirl’s little tea server. It’s cute.
February 27th, 2023 at 11:21 pm
^^^^^
see ..an idiot smh
February 28th, 2023 at 7:04 am
The way I see it, there have no less than two coaches that have said what im thinking about Kyle being a drool dribbler or have stated he would change his offense to accommodate Kyle’s shortcomings.
The first was the ex qb coach. His word was ‘deliberate’. Translation: slow. The next was new OC, Canales. He mentioned that he would not give Kyle the read option. It was implied because of his non athleticism. But the real reason, imo, is because it’s one less set of processes he would have to make in the heat of battle. Think about it, Tom Brady was not athletic by any stretch and guess who had the read option in his toolbox to use if he wanted. Athleticism isn’t the why, it’s the processing.
Now I have to hand it to Canales. He’s already showing to be a smart guy. With removing one option from Kyles playbook, he kills two birds with one stone. Doesn’t have to process and doesn’t have to be athletic. That’s buy one get one right there! It’s bogo time! It’s ya boy, bogo!!
What I look forward to is a three or four way battle for the qb1 position and I do want them to spend money we don’t have (not too much) and give a decent veteran and a draft pick a shot as well. If that happens, Bogo won’t be our starting QB.
February 28th, 2023 at 10:39 am
ABucAway Says: “The ex qb coach. His word was ‘deliberate’. Translation: ‘slow.’”
You should sue FSU for that worthless education they gave you.
FIRST, the adjective “deliberate” does not mean “slow”. “Deliberate” means “knowing”, “thoughtful”, “thought-out”, “reasoned”. It is a COMPLIMENT.
SECOND, Clyde Christensen said Trask is a FAST LEARNER:
“I like where he’s at. He DOES A LOT OF GOOD STUFF RIGHT NOW TO BE THIS EARLY. He PICKED IT UP PRETTY DARN QUICKLY. He’s a SMART KID that KNOWS WHAT HE’S DOING. He’s a really DELIBERATE LEARNER. He TAKES IT NICE AND SLOW TO GET THE DETAILS OF THE THING.”
You haters can’t get anything right, can you?
February 28th, 2023 at 11:35 am
Kyle trask is a hell of a pocket pass plus learning from the goat. In my opinion he was better then Mac Jones in college with a bad o line. And would have beatin Mac Jones in sec championship if they didn’t run out of time. Any doubters about trask go watch the sec championship game went he went up against Alabama and Mac Jones.
February 28th, 2023 at 12:40 pm
Neither the adjective or the verb mean what you want it to mean. Deliberate means taking time whichever, way you use it.
Learning fast does not mean you process and act fast. Are you equating the two somehow? Because they arent. I can’t imagine why you would feel the need to do that …
And FSU? No. But college isn’t what this topic is about, is it.
At times, Bogo can’t process his job fast enough. That’s still what it is, and he will still not be our starter come game 1. Licht just said that there will be competition for the QB1 spot.
May the best quarterback win!