Robert Hainsey Bashing
February 3rd, 2023
Center Robert Hainsey and guard/center Nick Leverett.
Former general manager Mike Tannenbaum and CBS game analyst Charles Davis, a former defensive back who was on the scene at One Buc Palace when Ryan Jensen blew his knee out in July, were taking their shots at the Bucs yesterday on SiriusXM NFL Radio.
Tannenbaum was telling the audience that the Bucs defense underachieved for a Todd Bowles unit. And both were smacking around the league-worst running game.
Zero push in the run game from Robert Hainsey was a theme and Davis, interestingly, noted he knows Bucs run game coordinator/co-offensive line coach Harold Goodwin and said that loads of runs were in the game plan each week, but they weren’t called. Per Davis, Tom Brady and Byron Leftwich collectively gave up on the run because it simply couldn’t be executed.
Davis was most harsh on Hainsey. And man, listening to those guys made it seem like the Bucs’ run game will be more solid in a hurry next season with Ryan Jensen suiting up.
Wouldn’t that be nice?
February 3rd, 2023 at 7:38 am
I thought he did alright. Didn’t hear his name much during the games. That’s good I think?
February 3rd, 2023 at 7:48 am
Absolutely spot on, dude got pushed around in pass pro and stonewalled in the run game with zero movement.
It’s why so many people wondered how the idiot ex OC kept running the smash and dive plays out of shotgun single back – just stupid, Stupid, STUPID
Hainsey has size but it doesn’t translate to strength at C
February 3rd, 2023 at 7:55 am
Biggest knock against Hainsey, is he doesn’t play as nasty as Jensen and that’s more a credit to Jensen than it is Hainsey failing at anything. I thought Bob & Leverett did pretty well given the circumstances that got them called into action to begin with and if things go right they’ll both be at least decent depth moving forward.
February 3rd, 2023 at 8:17 am
We keep playing some ot these guys out of their natural positions and expect them to perform well……Hainsey was average…..steady….filled the gap but didn’t excel.
We’ve got Jensen under contract…..Hainsey should compete for LG……we’ve got some depth with Leverett & Goedeke.
February 3rd, 2023 at 8:33 am
Joe what is the recovery status with Aaron Stennie?
He seems to be the forgotten guard.
February 3rd, 2023 at 8:57 am
And being predictable on 1st & 2nd down had NOTHING to do with the lousy running game!
February 3rd, 2023 at 9:14 am
Was watching films of Jason Kelsey pushing defensive tackles into the next area code, then I remembered watching our line basically not open any hole at all
February 3rd, 2023 at 9:15 am
Oline was soft the entire season. Play calling was horrible and the Bowles effect meant no energy, no nastiness and no execution.
February 3rd, 2023 at 9:34 am
Hainsey still needs to get stronger this offseason. He is athletic and added weight but not enough strength to be able to block average DT’s very well.
February 3rd, 2023 at 9:53 am
Not just Hainsey but the LG position both were blown back it seemed on most running plays. There were hardly any lanes up the gut and to the left side. Disappointing since both Hainsey and Goedeke were early day 2 picks for the Bucs in recent years. Gotta find the next Cappa and Marpet. Both were beasts that were not pushed around
February 3rd, 2023 at 10:05 am
Hainsey showed much development for the day 3 center starter. You’ve written articles praising Hainsey in the past and now you got some national CBS analyzing…
Smh. Gonna be a long offseason on JBF.
February 3rd, 2023 at 10:34 am
Starting to look like Todd Bowles will be the OC, DC, and head coach. Seems like the #collapseforCaleb is going to be real. Bowles should have hired a defensive coordinator that can call plays so he can be only the Head Coach. I feel that would have helped the defense last year when they shart themselves in some games
February 3rd, 2023 at 10:39 am
Hainsey couldn’t push when the left side of the line was collapsing.
By the time Leverett made the LG position decent, Hainsey was hurting.
Hainsey will be pretty good, maybe even a star in the next few years; just the kind of guy the Bucs will trade, and screw themselves with.
February 3rd, 2023 at 10:58 am
as stated by another reader- what is the timeline for Aaron Stinne’s recovery?
February 3rd, 2023 at 11:12 am
Get ready for Toad’s Big Suck.
February 3rd, 2023 at 11:20 am
@Lory
doesn’t matter, Stinnie is a FA, he signed a 1-year deal last season and got hurt, no guarantee he’ll be back
February 3rd, 2023 at 11:31 am
Jensen wasn’t who he is today when he entered the league. In fact he played very minimal his first three seasons. It takes time to become what he now is.
Hainsey in his first season playing the position graded out equal to what Jensen did last season when he made the pro bowl, and he did it under the microscope that comes with Brady. Hainsey will be a top center in this league before he is done.
February 3rd, 2023 at 11:31 am
I won’t call Hainsey a bust or dud but I will say he’s either out of position or miscasted by talent evaluations.
February 3rd, 2023 at 11:53 am
I know I wouldn’t want the responsibility of snapping the ball cleanly and immediately defending against a guy my size that literally wanted to kill my QB all within the first two weeks of my pro career.
It takes time to develop at most positions. Hainsey does need to bulk up and get nasty. But he didn’t look as bad as some seem to think.
February 3rd, 2023 at 12:02 pm
Exactly.
Zero push.
The season was lost but Licht wanted to force his draft picks on the field.
We should have traded picks for an NFL starter with experience!
Not a former slow RT from Notre Dame to play center for the first time in his career!
And we forced another college RT into the starting LG position!
Tom Brady’s final season was destroyed by Lichts hubris.
Tom Brady’s final season was destroyed by Licht, Hainsey, and Goedeke.
And Logan Hall for taking out Jensen.
February 3rd, 2023 at 12:36 pm
Joe, the pictures still don’t click through to the article?
February 3rd, 2023 at 12:57 pm
Yeah, it’s all Hainsey’s fault.
February 3rd, 2023 at 1:01 pm
Weak
February 3rd, 2023 at 1:12 pm
Then they put Goedeke next to Hainsey and were surprised they got bullied.
February 3rd, 2023 at 1:21 pm
@Bucmania
Their hand was forced, Jensen getting hurt forced them to play Hainsey at C, which took him out of the LG competition with Goedeke, Stinnie, and Levertt with the last two guys getting hurt while the competition was undecided.
February 3rd, 2023 at 3:42 pm
Not so sure Hainsey is the culprit. The predictability in the playcalling, plus the framing of the line and lack of a blocking scheme are more evident. Did we pull guards? Did we change direction? Did we play-action? Did we motion, other than to telegraph a WR screen? When you know football, you know football. Any two running play breakdowns of the Niners against us versus us against them will prove my point. Leftwich off to pasture is a phenomenal improvement — to bad no one had the chutzpah to do it iby week 13 and save our season. The next few weeks would have been the Bucs OLine “finding themselves” and our receivers breaking out. #facts💯
February 3rd, 2023 at 4:11 pm
Hainsey went to Notre Dame.
The Irish hate the Wolverines and vice versa. Joe Montana (ND) vs. Tom Brady (UM). Who do you think Hainsey, a self-professed Irish devotee, would call the greatest QB ever?
You could tell from Day 1, Hainsey didn’t have his heart in protecting Brady. In the moments when Brady was mic’d up and they caught him on the sideline chewing Hainsey’s butt, Hainsey looked and sounded like a man who knew he had to give lip service but deep down wasn’t dying on a sword for the guy he was snapping too.
Our OL was atrocious this year. Robert Hainsey? Josh Wells? Luke eff’ing Goedeke? Nick Leverett? Donnie Penalty? Somebody named Walton?
The remaining studs, Shaq Mason and Tristan Wirfs, and their exemplary play put into context just how bad the other guys were.
It’s gonna take a while to let go of the could’ve, should’ve, would’ve of Brady last year in the NFL. The team around him was so bad save Shaq Mason, Tristan Wirfs, Chris Godwin and Lavonte David. No one else on that damn played worth a damn. And that includes Winfield, Carlton Davis, Devin Bush and Mike Evans. The rest aren’t even in the discussion.
February 3rd, 2023 at 4:21 pm
Strange how the run game worked on 2nd and 3rd down, but when teams stacked 8 guys on the line, knowing that idiot Leftwich was going to run up the middle on every 1st down, that’s when the run game didn’t work.
February 3rd, 2023 at 4:59 pm
@Fire The Gannons has to have just typed the most absurd post to ever grace these pages. There is not one player in the NFL allowing his college affiliation affect his performance. I swear people get dumber by the day and that post has helped my cause.
February 3rd, 2023 at 5:16 pm
Many on the oline need to quit and go to Barcelona and become matadors.olé.
They proved their expertise this year.
No wonder Brady retired. Jeeesh.
February 3rd, 2023 at 6:26 pm
Per PFF Hainsey actually graded out at about average I think and the best in our division.
February 3rd, 2023 at 6:48 pm
Even when the Bucs had Jensen, Marpit and Cappa in the Bucs had an inconsistent run game. In my opinion, it was a combination of run scheme and how it was integrated into the passing game. All three years fans and defenses knew when the Bucs were going to run, based on personnel and formations, which made it easy to defend.
February 3rd, 2023 at 8:26 pm
I don’t recall Mason standing out in the run game, but since he was fa and Brady cronie he gets a pass? Put him out of position like the rookie LG and 1st time center and make the call. I think Goedeke will look much better in year 2 playing next to Jensen. I’d even consider moving him to his preferred side (RG… ain’t happening at tackle) and save a dime trading Mason.
While your at it, trade both Shaqs.
February 3rd, 2023 at 9:26 pm
We all know it wasn’t all Hainsey’s fault. How many games did we have to set through with Goedeke at Left Guard. Then Smith became the most penalized left tackle in football, besides getting beat numerous times.
February 3rd, 2023 at 9:30 pm
Wirfs, Mason, Jensen are solid.
The issue is they need a left guard and probably left tackle because Donovan Smith needs a big pay cut or a release
February 3rd, 2023 at 10:01 pm
It’s not bashing when the criticism is completely justified. Bucs staff overhyped the hell out of golden boy, even as his performance was mediocre to poor on both pass pro and run blocking. He is a rotational backup. Not Jensen, not a tone setter, not nasty, not dominant (gets worked by good defensive linemen). Finesse, tries to be technical, but simply isn’t what the OL needs as a starter in front of Tom Brady.
February 4th, 2023 at 12:00 am
Blown pick
The kid from LSU was the pick here
Jason Licht cost us this year
He also blew the Luke G pick
He also has held on and over paid for D Smith for way to many years
Worst Drafting GM in football
February 4th, 2023 at 5:04 am
D. Smith to left guard, Wirfs to left tackle, draft/sign/trade for a quality right tackle and the line is fixed.
February 4th, 2023 at 10:54 am
The left guard Engram from LSU started all year for the Vikings.
We drafted a RT from a tiny school to play LG instead of drafting a LG from LSU!
We have had so much luck with LSU players, why stop?
Beckwith and Alexander were great picks.
We should keep drafting SEC players.
They are tough and fast.
Instead we drafted two slow ass gringos: Hainsey and Goedeke